Comments on: RESTORE Act vote postponed. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:15:45 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: impeachcheneythenbush http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/comment-page-1/#comment-4124738 impeachcheneythenbush Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:37:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/#comment-4124738 Comment by Witch1 — October 17, 2007 @ 10:21 pm I just went to the Tom Paine website and read (and printed out) the article about Pelosi and the NSA that you referred to. Indeed, we, the American people, are being sold down the river by the Democrats as well as the Republicans. The Senate is now agreeing to give immunity to the telecoms, in their version of the bill. I'm seriously beginning to doubt that there is a political solution to what is wrong in this country. As long as fear and profit are the ruling motivators, I don't think so. The problem is the paradigm that Americans operate under; the myth about our country that we refuse to see as myth. The truth is that the ruling class has viewed the American "masses" as potential enemies from the start, and have always tried to repress dissent. Beginning with the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798 (only 9 years after the U.S. Constitution was ratified in 1789), followed by among others, the Sedition Act of 1918. The NSA survellience of Americans is only the latest and most technogically advanced method to control dissent. And I was shocked to see that when I began to post this comment today, there were only 31 comments....on a progressive board!! Comment by Witch1 — October 17, 2007 @ 10:21 pm

I just went to the Tom Paine website and read (and printed out) the article about Pelosi and the NSA that you referred to. Indeed, we, the American people, are being sold down the river by the Democrats as well as the Republicans. The Senate is now agreeing to give immunity to the telecoms, in their version of the bill.

I’m seriously beginning to doubt that there is a political solution to what is wrong in this country. As long as fear and profit are the ruling motivators, I don’t think so. The problem is the paradigm that Americans operate under; the myth about our country that we refuse to see as myth. The truth is that the ruling class has viewed the American “masses” as potential enemies from the start, and have always tried to repress dissent. Beginning with the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798 (only 9 years after the U.S. Constitution was ratified in 1789), followed by among others, the Sedition Act of 1918. The NSA survellience of Americans is only the latest and most technogically advanced method to control dissent.

And I was shocked to see that when I began to post this comment today, there were only 31 comments….on a progressive board!!

]]> By: rockyroad http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/comment-page-1/#comment-4124402 rockyroad Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:52:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/#comment-4124402 Yes, disappointing as it may seem, delaying RESTORE may be in the best interests of the American people. Too quickly, we have passed the Patriot Act and the FISA renewal only to find out later skanky bits of legislation, slipped in while our legislators were snoozin' that deprived us of our Constitutional rights. This time, lets not rely on our snoozing elected reps and vet it ourselves. They will hate that. But it will be better. Yes, disappointing as it may seem, delaying RESTORE may be in the best interests of the American people. Too quickly, we have passed the Patriot Act and the FISA renewal only to find out later skanky bits of legislation, slipped in while our legislators were snoozin’ that deprived us of our Constitutional rights.

This time, lets not rely on our snoozing elected reps and vet it ourselves. They will hate that. But it will be better.

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/comment-page-1/#comment-4124372 Chocolate Jesus Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:19:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/#comment-4124372 Beefeater can you point to any other news media which ran clips of all the self-contradictory statements gonalzes made, other than the Daily show? Beefeater can you point to any other news media which ran clips of all the self-contradictory statements gonalzes made, other than the Daily show?

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/comment-page-1/#comment-4124369 Chocolate Jesus Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:01:32 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/#comment-4124369 >Since when is a comedian considered a reliable source? Since John stewart starting running all the clips of ever single self-contradictory thing these jackals have said while almost no other "news" organization would. >Since when is a comedian considered a reliable source?

Since John stewart starting running all the clips of ever single self-contradictory thing these jackals have said while almost no other “news” organization would.

]]> By: Witch1 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/comment-page-1/#comment-4124130 Witch1 Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:21:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/#comment-4124130 PLEASE GO TO TOM PANES.COM SITE. READ THE ARTICLE OF YESTERDAY, PALOSI AND THE NSA.....THEN JOIN ME TO HELP GET PALOSIS ASS OUT OF OFFICE....GET REAL AND MAKE A DIFFRENCE. PLEASE GO TO TOM PANES.COM SITE. READ THE ARTICLE OF YESTERDAY, PALOSI AND THE NSA…..THEN JOIN ME TO HELP GET PALOSIS ASS OUT OF OFFICE….GET REAL AND MAKE A DIFFRENCE.

]]> By: grover nerdkissed http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/comment-page-1/#comment-4124126 grover nerdkissed Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:18:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/#comment-4124126 & doesnt the fact that comcast is CHARGING negate their position that they are only giving out confidential info in the name of PATRIOSTISM?!?!?! & doesnt the fact that comcast is CHARGING negate their position that they are only giving out confidential info in the name of PATRIOSTISM?!?!?!

]]> By: grover nerdkissed http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/comment-page-1/#comment-4124124 grover nerdkissed Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:17:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/#comment-4124124 i am stunned that comcast is freaking making a profit by handing over their customer's personal info!!!! so comcast is getting paid TWICE, once by its customers & once by the government spies! i am stunned that comcast is freaking making a profit by handing over their customer’s personal info!!!!

so comcast is getting paid TWICE, once by its customers & once by the government spies!

]]> By: Witch1 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/comment-page-1/#comment-4124101 Witch1 Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:57:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/#comment-4124101 I'm sick of this mess.....It's coming out in drove's.....The majority on both side's of the isle are corrupt, lier's, thieves and murderer's by proxy.On the one hand it is something several of us have been working on, exposing the evil doer's and on the other hand the public isn't getting it quick enough to save more live's.....I watched Cheney's law last night, nearly all of it was stuff I knew and it was presented well but untill every one wake's up it has little affect...We the people have to do what ever it take's to get our country back...If we don't impeach them now they get away with murder as well as all the other crime's.....I am still sending Palosi email's every day but my tone isn't as respectful as it was...She's just as bad as the reich as far as I am concerned and would bet there are many more just like her.....Blessings I’m sick of this mess…..It’s coming out in drove’s…..The majority on both side’s of the isle are corrupt, lier’s, thieves and murderer’s by proxy.On the one hand it is something several of us have been working on, exposing the evil doer’s and on the other hand the public isn’t getting it quick enough to save more live’s…..I watched Cheney’s law last night, nearly all of it was stuff I knew and it was presented well but untill every one wake’s up it has little affect…We the people have to do what ever it take’s to get our country back…If we don’t impeach them now they get away with murder as well as all the other crime’s…..I am still sending Palosi email’s every day but my tone isn’t as respectful as it was…She’s just as bad as the reich as far as I am concerned and would bet there are many more just like her…..Blessings

]]> By: had enough http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/comment-page-1/#comment-4124086 had enough Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:46:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/#comment-4124086 Witch1 Bernie Ward also talked about this last night....Pelosi is his Rep in SF and he has had it with her too. Witch1
Bernie Ward also talked about this last night….Pelosi is his Rep in SF and he has had it with her too.

]]> By: Witch1 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/comment-page-1/#comment-4124083 Witch1 Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:40:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/#comment-4124083 Uh, excuse me......Did any one posting read my post yesterday that Nancy Palosi has been one of the very few that knew about the wire tapping when Bush/ Cheney went into office in 2000.?......She knew then...Got that from Tom Paines site yesterday and posted it on one of the thread's......They were tapping then and Palosi knew, did ya get it.? She knew...Dammet......Haven't ya all been reading what I have been slamming her about last night and today?......We have been screwed, she has " assumed the position" for bull shit bush since 2000....Hello! "Doe's any body here realy care what time it is"?..I do.......Blessings Uh, excuse me……Did any one posting read my post yesterday that Nancy Palosi has been one of the very few that knew about the wire tapping when Bush/ Cheney went into office in 2000.?……She knew then…Got that from Tom Paines site yesterday and posted it on one of the thread’s……They were tapping then and Palosi knew, did ya get it.? She knew…Dammet……Haven’t ya all been reading what I have been slamming her about last night and today?……We have been screwed, she has ” assumed the position” for bull shit bush since 2000….Hello! “Doe’s any body here realy care what time it is”?..I do…….Blessings

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/comment-page-1/#comment-4124046 katy Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:56:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/#comment-4124046 anyone? can you see me? anyone? can you see me?

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/comment-page-1/#comment-4124042 katy Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:54:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/#comment-4124042 bartlebee? bartlebee?

]]> By: had enough http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/comment-page-1/#comment-4124036 had enough Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:46:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/#comment-4124036 <em>Bartlebee has been saying for 2 years now in here that they are spying on us all.</em> To make sure no pockets or groups of rebellion start up... before they can get it done..<em> it </em>being the complete privatization of our society... the move towards a one world order.. Are the curtains going to open up one day and all will see just how screwed we are? Bartlebee has been saying for 2 years now in here that they are spying on us all.
To make sure no pockets or groups of rebellion start up… before they can get it done.. it being the complete privatization of our society… the move towards a one world order..
Are the curtains going to open up one day and all will see just how screwed we are?

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/comment-page-1/#comment-4124035 katy Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:45:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/#comment-4124035 <em><strong>$1000 to read your email</strong>, that's what the Bush Administration paid the telecom companies they are trying to protect -maddowonline.com</em> http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/10/what-does-uncle.html . $1000 to read your email, that’s what the Bush Administration paid the telecom companies they are trying to protect
-maddowonline.com

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/10/what-does-uncle.html
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]]> By: Doc Rock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/comment-page-1/#comment-4123936 Doc Rock Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:21:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/#comment-4123936 Just say, "No." Just say, “No.”

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/comment-page-1/#comment-4123828 katy Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:35:38 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/#comment-4123828 i've been hearing about another version of this bill... "H.R.3782 is the “FISA modernization bill” from <strong>russ holt</strong>." supposed to be a much better bill, from what i hear... which is very little... WHY IS THAT? ... anyone know? http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=FISA,+Holt&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 . i’ve been hearing about another version of this bill…

“H.R.3782 is the “FISA modernization bill” from russ holt.”

supposed to be a much better bill, from what i hear…

which is very little…

WHY IS THAT? … anyone know?

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=FISA,+Holt&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
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]]> By: AngryOne http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/comment-page-1/#comment-4123801 AngryOne Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:17:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/#comment-4123801 Last night's airing of the PBS Frontline documentary "Cheney's Law" could not have come at a more fitting time. As Congress begins debate on a new FISA bill and the issue of immunity for telecommunications firms, Attorney General nominee Michael Mukasey begins confirmation hearings in the Senate. But as Frontline reminded us last night, the architects of the Bush administration's NSA domestic surveillance program believe FISA itself is unconstitutional. For the details, see: <b><a href="http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000792.htm" rel="nofollow">"Cheney's Law and the Constitutionality of FISA."</a></b> Last night’s airing of the PBS Frontline documentary “Cheney’s Law” could not have come at a more fitting time. As Congress begins debate on a new FISA bill and the issue of immunity for telecommunications firms, Attorney General nominee Michael Mukasey begins confirmation hearings in the Senate. But as Frontline reminded us last night, the architects of the Bush administration’s NSA domestic surveillance program believe FISA itself is unconstitutional.

For the details, see:
“Cheney’s Law and the Constitutionality of FISA.”

]]> By: grover nerdkissed http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/comment-page-1/#comment-4123782 grover nerdkissed Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:10:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/#comment-4123782 i thought it passed earlier today as well!?!?!?! i thought it passed earlier today as well!?!?!?!

]]> By: mrkcohen http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/comment-page-1/#comment-4123765 mrkcohen Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:00:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/#comment-4123765 Good. Let this crappy version die, and the worse version working through the Senate too. Pass a clean foreign to foreign through US switches fix and send it off. Otherwise let this bastard expire in February... Good. Let this crappy version die, and the worse version working through the Senate too.

Pass a clean foreign to foreign through US switches fix and send it off. Otherwise let this bastard expire in February…

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/comment-page-1/#comment-4123755 bilbobaggins Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:56:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/restore-act-vote-postponed/#comment-4123755 Wait a minute. I thought they had already passed it. At least that is what TP posted earlier. What's going on here? Wait a minute. I thought they had already passed it. At least that is what TP posted earlier. What’s going on here?

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