Get ready for the War on Christmas.
By on Oct 18th, 2007 at 5:28 pm
Get ready for the War on Christmas.
Thanksgiving is still a month away, but WorldNetDaily is already selling “Christmas-defense kits,” with tools to help you “fight back” against the “the American Civil Liberties Union grinches.” Included in these kits are magnets, “Operation: Just Say ‘Merry Christmas’” bracelets, and various bumper stickers. One example:
As Andrew Sullivan notes, “The culture-war season starts earlier every year.”
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My, what a pleasant bumper sticker. It just screams Christian values, doesn’t it?
It screams something at any rate.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:32 pmI’ll have to get my own bumper sticker protesting WorldNetDaily’s war on grammar =P
October 18th, 2007 at 5:33 pmLOL
Make sure you have your American Flag pin on when you place your order.
My bumper sticker: “Merry Mas – Taking the Christ out of Christmas”
October 18th, 2007 at 5:34 pmI’m going to have to get one of those Christmas Defense kits, does it repel hairy fat men hanging around at the mall?
October 18th, 2007 at 5:37 pmWhat is wrong with America’s christians? Why can’t they just follow theiur religion and leave the rest of us alone? Why do they have to be so annoying?
Christians are the new hare krishna’s (no offense to the krishna’s)
October 18th, 2007 at 5:37 pmWith apologies to Dickens, the heretofore undiscovered lost chapter: “The Ghost of Christmas Never.”
October 18th, 2007 at 5:37 pm“Merry Mas – Taking the Christ out of Christmas”
I love it!
October 18th, 2007 at 5:40 pmI’m going to have to get one of those Christmas Defense kits, does it repel hairy fat men hanging around at the mall?
Comment by Nevar — October 18, 2007 @ 5:37 pm
You mean all the Repugs in Congress are hanging out at the mall?
October 18th, 2007 at 5:41 pmI was just at Costco, and they had a Xmas tree display, playing Xmas music. My first thought was to kick Bill O’Reilly square in the nuts. I hate Xmas and Xmas music. Better keep that shit out of my face.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:43 pm“Merry Mas – Taking the Christ out of Christmasâ€
I love it!
Comment by Frosty Cupcake — October 18, 2007 @ 5:40 pm
Thanks Frosty but I did get the idea from and old McLean and McLean album. These were two Canadian guys that sang very crude songs like Dolly Parton’s T!its and one of their albums was called “Tak’n the ‘O’ out of Country”. Very, very crude and very funny when your 20 LOL.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:43 pmI need to order myself one of those if they irritate God-hating Liberals that much. Merry Christmas to all!!!!!!
Comment by TCDon — October 18, 2007 @ 5:41 pm
The irony of this comment is just too much for me.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:44 pmDang! I wanted to get my War on Christmas shopping done early this year too!
October 18th, 2007 at 5:45 pmI need to order myself one of those if they irritate God-hating Liberals that much. Merry Christmas to all!!!!!!
Comment by TCDon — October 18, 2007 @ 5:41 pm
I think you made an error TCDon. It’s not God-hating, it’s God disbelieving. Hard to hate an imaginary thing don’t you think?
October 18th, 2007 at 5:46 pmComment by TCDon — October 18, 2007 @ 5:41 pm
The irony of this comment is just too much for me.
Comment by dim wit — October 18, 2007 @ 5:44 pm
Not to worry. TCDon is irony-deficient.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:46 pmYou mean all the Repugs in Congress are hanging out at the mall?
Comment by upside99
I hear Denny Hasturd will be looking for work soon…
October 18th, 2007 at 5:47 pmTCdimwit: Guess what, proud American, the bumper stickers are probably made in China.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:47 pmLMLAO (Laughing My Liberal Ass Off)
12 Dim Wit: That’s exactly what I thought.
Someone using their religion, which is *supposed* to be about peace and love, to annoy others. Wow. Breathtaking.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:47 pmThe irony of this comment is just too much for me.
Comment by dim wit — October 18, 2007 @ 5:44 pm
But it is a rather splendid example of … hmmm… of… well, YOU know!
And it is a SPLENDID example of it, too!
October 18th, 2007 at 5:48 pmWhen did we go from celebrating the birth of the infant Jesus to celebrating a straw man?
October 18th, 2007 at 5:48 pmComment by TCDon
Let me guess, TC is for Traverse City…
October 18th, 2007 at 5:48 pm#20: Christianity as a bludgeon.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:50 pmThey’re so flipping angry about ….. xmas??
I have to admit that I enjoy watching them get apoplectic about this.
When they even suspect that some people don’t conform to their groupthink you can almost see the neurons going poof.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:50 pmRight Wing Mantra:
October 18th, 2007 at 5:51 pmPay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
What’s it to you if someone hates god? Doesn’t seem like your battle, to me. BTW: this ‘god’ you speak of doesn’t exist in the first place, ’cause if he/it did, he/it wouldn’t need the likes of you to defend himself/itself. So, go ahead and put your mean-spirited, fascist, tribal bumper sticker on your car, you self-deluded Neanderthal.
Why don’t you listen to Bush and go shopping.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:51 pm“Christmas: enraging liberals since 1 A.D.”
Not really, since Jesus was a liberal.
Jesus: One of us.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:52 pmWhat a silly, stupid cause.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:52 pmYes, but a “cause” that makes money for the likes of Bill-o.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:53 pmSorry, Stormpooper, christmas wasn’t invented till much, much later….
October 18th, 2007 at 5:53 pmI need to order myself one of those if they irritate God-hating Liberals that much. Merry Christmas to all!!!!!!
Comment by TCDon — October 18, 2007 @ 5:41 pm
This December should be a time of great joy for many people. Christians will be celebrating Christmas, Jews will be celebrating Hanukkah, and Muslims will be celebrating Eid ul-Adha. Lots of people having a great time.
And yet, some people will only find joy in irritating others. I guess you’re one of those people.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:54 pmI need to order myself one of those if they irritate God-hating Liberals that much. Merry Christmas to all!!!!!!
Comment by TCDon — October 18, 2007 @ 5:41 pm
Aye, that’s the Xmas spirit!
October 18th, 2007 at 5:54 pm23: Conservatives: Asinine since the dawn of time.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:55 pmSorry, Stormpooper, christmas wasn’t invented till much, much later….
Comment by Nevar — October 18, 2007 @ 5:53 pm
Don’t do that! Don’t stomp on a perfectly good catchphrase just because it’s nonsense! After all, this is the Season of War on Christmas! Have a heart.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:55 pmOh, Jesus was real, just not the son of god.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:56 pmMERRY CHRISTMAS, YOU AMERICA-HATING LIBRUL!!!!!
Yikes. Lovely – when you put it that way. :o/
October 18th, 2007 at 5:57 pmI take no particular offense to the “Merry Christmas†saying. What surprised me is how offended some of my christian friends were when I told them Jesus was more likely born in 4-6 BC and during the late spring or early summer, and that christmas itself was a way for christians to upstage a pagan ritual during winter solstice. Alas, I am going to hell for saying such things :)
October 18th, 2007 at 5:57 pmFunny how the conservaturds feel such a need to celebrate the birth of history’s biggest Liberal! Hey, I’m a lifelong atheist, and a better Christian than any one of those mass-murdering pooftas in the White House.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:58 pmSeemed like a pretty cool dude, too. You should emulate him. I might like you better that way. (Minus the delusional son of god thing, though.)
October 18th, 2007 at 5:58 pmWould somebody please explain to me what, exactly, these ACLU “grinches” are guilty of?
I don’t recall ANY time where the ACLU has ever prevented anybody from wishing anybody else “Merry Christmas!” Did I miss something?
October 18th, 2007 at 5:59 pmsnt Jesus just another guy? How does that work?
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 5:56 pm
He’s just another liberal hippy, with no use for rightard idiots.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:59 pm#40: Lefty Patriot: Ain’t it the truth.
Jesus: A liberal persecuted by conservatives.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:00 pmmissmolly, I was on the streets of Santa Monica one day last December, and I happened to wish a passerby “Merry Christmas”. She immediately got on her cell phone, and before I had reached the end of the block, an ACLU assault vehicle had rounded the corner and ACLU storm troopers had me surrounded with AK-47s. I think they were AK-47s, anyway.
They told me to stop saying “Merry Christmas” and they made me apologize to the woman I had offended.
True story.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:02 pmAfter all, this is the Season of War on Christmas! Have a heart.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama
Is the season open?
October 18th, 2007 at 6:02 pmDo you have at least 2 points on either side of your rack?
Would somebody please explain to me what, exactly, these ACLU “grinches†are guilty of?
I don’t recall ANY time where the ACLU has ever prevented anybody from wishing anybody else “Merry Christmas!†Did I miss something?
Comment by missmolly — October 18, 2007 @ 5:59 pm
Its the conservative misinformation machine at work.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:02 pmHow very brave you have to be to put that crap on your car. Oh the humanity!!!! The thousands who have died in this bloody war on Christmas. How many have to wear their flak jackets and armor to their local churches? How many have lost family members in this horrible, pretend war? How many have had their brains sucked out by the verbal prestidigitation of the neocons who have made this crap up out of thin air, to keep stupid people from having to think about reality?
How long will this war go on???? As long as idiots continue to let it.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:04 pmA hippy you say? Im not sure if Jesus would have been down with the dope-smokin’ free lovers of the hippy movement but if it makes you happy to think so, have at it.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 6:02 pm
Let’s see… he hung out with prostitutes and turned water into wine at a wedding… so yeah, I don’t think Jesus had a ton of hang-ups about sex, or about the mind-alerting fruits of the earth…
October 18th, 2007 at 6:05 pm45: Your moniker says it all. Stormtroopers began their gestation in May, 1915 in Germany. You a Nazi, boy?
October 18th, 2007 at 6:06 pm“I was on the streets of Santa Monica one day…..”
True story.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama
LOL Say no more… LOL
October 18th, 2007 at 6:06 pmYou’re pretty funny ralph…
Do you have a hat sitting out on the sidewalk?
What corner do you hang on?
54: It’s that whole Conservatives Without Conscience thing.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:07 pmIm not sure if Jesus would have been down with the dope-smokin’ free lovers of the hippy movement but if it makes you happy to think so, have at it.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 6:02 pm
But you don’t really know, do you? And the funniest thing of all is, it’s the conservatives that have created the “Happy Holidays” theme, not the liberals. Just more bullshit from the ignorant, hateful right. Thank Christ you’re all done in this country.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:08 pmYou’re pretty funny ralph…
Do you have a hat sitting out on the sidewalk?
What corner do you hang on?
Comment by Nevar — October 18, 2007 @ 6:06 pm
That is SO not the point of the story.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:09 pm53: And Jesus was gay since . . . “he loved his fellow man.” Romans 13-10
October 18th, 2007 at 6:09 pmWhich meant, by that criteria, he was a certifiable nutjob considering the things he professed. Yup, a good candidate to be ‘one of yours’.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 6:07 pm
We on the left have known for many years that you on the right really, in fact, hate Jesus and what he stood for. Thanks for the proof that we can copy and trot out forever now. Jesus was a liberal, and conservatives murdered him.
Works for me.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:10 pmA hippy you say? Im not sure if Jesus would have been down with the dope-smokin’ free lovers of the hippy movement but if it makes you happy to think so, have at it.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 6:02 pm
Didn’t god make marijuana/hemp/cannabis? I mean, it grows right there on the plant. It seems a lot more natural than a made in China magnetic bumper sticker
October 18th, 2007 at 6:10 pmJesus was pretty cool. If only the conservatives who so profess to admire him actually acted like him.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:10 pmJesus was pretty cool. If only the conservatives who so profess to admire him actually acted like him.
Comment by Frosty Cupcake — October 18, 2007 @ 6:10 pm
They wouldn’t be conservatives any more, they’d be humans.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:11 pm“Jesus was a liberal, and conservatives murdered him.”
Pretty much sums it up.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:11 pmChristmas: enraging liberals since since the fourth century.
No matter how you cut it, still a long time to be pissed.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 6:00 pm
Where do you get the idea that Christmas enrages liberals? I’m a liberal and I love Christmas. All my liberal friends love Christmas — even those who celebrate other religious holidays.
I see that a bunch of self-righteous people with way too much time on their hands have decided to make a big hairy deal about retailers who choose to wish their customers “happy holidays”! But I wouldn’t describe myself as being “enraged” over this — “perplexed” might be a better word.
I think that if the above bumper sticker is any indication, it’s the straw man beaters who are the enraged ones — not the liberals.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:11 pmThat is SO not the point of the story.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama
So?
October 18th, 2007 at 6:12 pmDon’t we have enough legitimate disagreements already — do the repugs have to manufacture one?
October 18th, 2007 at 6:12 pmToday I got an e-mail from a rabid rightwinger decrying that there are postage stamps available celebrating the muslim holiday eid.
That is apparently not OK, but stamps of the madonna and child are.
Lefty Patriot: “They wouldn’t be conservatives any more, they’d be humans.”
And wouldn’t it be great?
Night all.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:13 pm“This is America and I’m going to say it:
October 18th, 2007 at 6:13 pmMy bumpersticker was made in China.”
#63:
“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” -Mohandas Gandhi
October 18th, 2007 at 6:13 pmToday I got an e-mail from a rabid rightwinger decrying that there are postage stamps available celebrating the muslim holiday eid.
That is apparently not OK, but stamps of the madonna and child are.
Comment by Marie — October 18, 2007 @ 6:12 pm
righties never got the memo about America and equality. or if they did, there was nobody around to read it to them.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:14 pmDid Jesus “turn on, tune in and drop out†by getting blowjobs from Mary Magdalene and hitting the wine until he decided that streaking down main street was a good idea?
Yah, a regular hippy.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 6:13 pm
sounds like Bush in college to me. that’s rightwing fratboy behavior.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:15 pm70: What is it about you far-righties and blowjobs?
October 18th, 2007 at 6:15 pmDon’t we have enough legitimate disagreements already — do the repugs have to manufacture one?
Comment by Marie — October 18, 2007 @ 6:12 pm
Come on, Marie, look at it from their perspective — any disagreements that are based on legitimate issues, they lose because facts have a liberal bias.
So they have to manufacture disagreements that they think they can win. I guess they like this one, because they keep coming back to it year after year.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:16 pm70: What is it about you far-righties and blowjobs?
Comment by helenahandbasket — October 18, 2007 @ 6:15 pm
Wishful thinking, Larry Craig, Mark Foley…any number of answers to that one.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:16 pmDid Jesus “turn on, tune in and drop out†by getting blowjobs from Mary Magdalene and hitting the wine until he decided that streaking down main street was a good idea?
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 6:13 pm
I don’t know. Maybe.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:17 pmComment by ralph the wonder llama — October 18, 2007 @ 6:02 pm
LOL — good one! (you can take tongue out of cheek now)
October 18th, 2007 at 6:17 pmAll it proves is that you don’t know anything about the man you claim to follow!
Comment by republicans hate facts — October 18, 2007 @ 6:17 pm
To be fair, stormtrooper (how gaii) never claimed to follow Jesus, although he probably follows altar boys…
October 18th, 2007 at 6:19 pmwishing someone “Merry Christmas†is worthy of a federal lawsuit.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 6:17 pm
Hahahaha! No such thing ever happened, liar.
Happy Holidays.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:19 pmStrawman cleanup (again) to Aisle 81.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:20 pmPerhaps they are responding to other self-righteous people with way too much time on their hands who have decided that displaying a Christmas tree in a school entrance or wishing someone “Merry Christmas†is worthy of a federal lawsuit.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 6:17 pm
Perhaps.
I’m curious about these lawsuits you speak of. Can you point out to me the lawsuits that had to do with people wishing someone “Merry Christmas”?
I’d like to learn more about that. It does sound outrageous, I’ll give you that. It’s a misuse of the justice system, if true.
I bet it was the same ACLU thugs who accosted me last year.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:20 pmToday I got an e-mail from a rabid rightwinger decrying that there are postage stamps available celebrating the muslim holiday eid.
That is apparently not OK, but stamps of the madonna and child are.
Comment by Marie — October 18, 2007 @ 6:12 pm
Your rabid rightwinger is a bit slow on the uptake. The Eid stamps have been around for awhile. This year, my Muslim friends had to add extra postage when using the stamps to mail their Eid greetings, because the postal rates have gone up since they were issued.
It’s actually a rather pretty stamp — and it keeps with the Muslim tradition of no graven images.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:21 pmGood lord. Instead of being so worried about freaking terrorists, we ought to be worried about the IDIOTS assaulting America.
Crap.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:24 pmStormie: Anyhoo? I can’t imagine that you walk upright.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:25 pmAnyhoo like I said, I cant imagine Jesus huddled under a puptent at Woodstock, getting stoned out of his gourd and accepting ‘free love’ from any girl that happened to offer it.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander
Your parents finally told you the story of your conception, huh?
October 18th, 2007 at 6:28 pmThe ACLU does not hide behind santa, but the republicans apparently do. The ALCU represents ALL AMERICANS, not JUST A FEW!
October 18th, 2007 at 6:29 pmSorry, dude – I’m including YOU in the category of “IDIOT.”
So…no can do.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:32 pmAnyhoo like I said, I cant imagine Jesus huddled under a puptent at Woodstock, getting stoned out of his gourd and accepting ‘free love’ from any girl that happened to offer it.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 6:23 pm
I for one am not surprised. The ability to imagine such an image would take a hell of a lot more imagination than you’ve displayed here.
now… about those “Merry Christmas” lawsuits…
October 18th, 2007 at 6:34 pm94: I think you got at least 24 per cent.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:34 pmLMLAO
I really loved the label button that featured a white background, a capital L and a red line running diagonally from top left to bottom right.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:34 pmer, lapel button… duh.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:35 pmRovian Storm Pooper = Mr. P. New IP, old schtick.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:36 pm“Mr. Commander, sir?
The cleaners just called, your armor is ready to be picked up.
Sir?
No, they did not get the red out, they had to modify the color scheme somewhat…
Yes sir, red and white now, with a black band around the waist…
Sorry sir.”
Rovian Stormtrooper Squire
October 18th, 2007 at 6:37 pmRovian Storm Pooper = Mr. P. New IP, old schtick.
Comment by RUCerious — October 18, 2007 @ 6:36 pm
And busy derailing the thread by mindless comments about hippies. What hippies have to do with the “war on Christmas” is a mystery.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:39 pmWould Jesus have played a V guitar left handed??
October 18th, 2007 at 6:39 pm105: Breaking News: Pot calls kettle, black.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:42 pmI’ve got a new bumper sticker: Bring our troops home to enjoy Christmas!
October 18th, 2007 at 6:44 pm107: I was being polite, Nazi-boy.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:45 pmI should call a press conference. Breaking News:â€Liberal insults conservative for daring to have a different opinionâ€.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
What a great idea! It will be the perfect occasion to highlight how mean and uncivilized Liberals are to the genteel, polite and very on-topic conservatives who don’t try to derail threads with off-topic stereotypes hardly ever. And of course, the conservatives wouldn’t dream of insulting liberals, heavens, no!
That doesn’t happen.
By the may, Stormie, have you dug up the details on those “Merry Christmas” lawsuits yet? I really want to get started on studying them, but the Google won’t give me anything worth pursuing.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:45 pmIm with ya, time to eject Peter Stark (hoooo, kookyguy) and a large number of other dems from office. Who is with me?
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 6:30 pm
Very few, fortunately for the USA.
and when did a rightard ever have a different opinion? Different from what? You all recite the same lame talking points at command, like a Pavlovian experiment gone meta.
I see that Stark’s truthful comments have you around the bend; good for him. Calling Bush on his lies is what every patriot should do.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:46 pmOriginal reference to Jesus being a hippy:
‘He’s just another liberal hippy, with no use for rightard idiots.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — October 18, 2007 @ 5:59 pm’
Lefty Patriot…Rovian Stormtrooper Commander….hmmm, how did you mix those up?
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
Way to go, Stormie! You turned the tables on all those Liberals, didn’t ya? It’s not your fault you made all of those posts about hippies because someone else used that word first!
jeez, I wish I could learn how to avoid taking responsibility for my own acions like you guys do. You’re so smooth.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:48 pmComment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
The inevitablility of your “thought” process is exposed.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:49 pmI love the Christmas season and I am not going to let any damn Christian deprive me of the fun.
The kids and I have a tradition of setting up the Nativity Scene on the front lawn, but each year someone takes a turn at rearranging the figures. Usually with Mary in some indelicate position with the three wisemen, one year it was the donkey.
The Christians go absolutely berserk, which is my source of Christmas Joy.
It’s not Christ I dislike, it’s the sanctimonious Christians.
Please don’t take my Nativity Scene away Mr. Grinch!
October 18th, 2007 at 6:52 pmI’m going to have a Christmas sticker made up of Santa in a bathroom stall,with Bush, in a wide stance, in the next stall!
October 18th, 2007 at 6:54 pmSay, Stormie, any word on those “Merry Christmas” lawsuits?
It’s starting to look like maybe you made it all up to score a cheap rhetorical point. But that can’t be, right?
October 18th, 2007 at 6:54 pmThanks, nanlichi!
October 18th, 2007 at 6:58 pmLOL
How about 8 reindeer on the rooftop pulling a train?
115: Poor baby. By the way, I am a proud Leftist Intellectual. What are you? Perhaps, an ashamed Right Wing Knuckledragger?
October 18th, 2007 at 7:00 pmBut you’re right, Naziboy is a bit strong, but you used the word “stormtrooper” in your moniker and it does bring up images of German fascism.
RSC, you sound like a victim of TP abuse. Why hang around?
October 18th, 2007 at 7:03 pm“…obvious psychopathic intent to ‘get me’.”
Comment by Rovian Stormpooper Commander
Don’t forget to look under the bed, and barricade the door….
October 18th, 2007 at 7:04 pmIt is unfortunate that the Bible has become the book of law for pseudo-christians instead of the original Essene-gnostic writings. In that, Jesus was more of a humanitarian/Environmentalist. The Pagans invented the festivities around Winter Solstice, the early Europeans didn’t cut down trees, but adorned them with metals and gifts. Early christians were opposed to the trees of Bacchus.
Then we had the Inquisition, and it has devolved to the Fundmentalists we have today.
October 18th, 2007 at 7:04 pmIt’s starting to look like maybe you made it all up to score a cheap rhetorical point. But that can’t be, right?
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — October 18, 2007 @ 6:54 pm
Actually, that may be the case considering that you have been following me like a dog for the last twenty posts with obvious psychopathic intent to ‘get me’.
Response noted and Ill write a memo to remind myself that focus is a liberal hallmark here at TP.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
Say it ain’t so! You made it up???!!! I’m shocked! Shocked I say!
But at least you didn’t insult me, since that is a “liberal” trait, right?
October 18th, 2007 at 7:04 pmColbert’s gonna be pissed he wasn’t the first in the battle cry for the war on christmas. He’s probably too busy running for President, anyway.
October 18th, 2007 at 7:05 pmIm not German.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 7:06 pm
“”Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.”
October 18th, 2007 at 7:11 pmYou may not be German, sweetbuns – but …if the jackboots fit….
October 18th, 2007 at 7:11 pmI dont see the insult, then again Im not a liberal and therefore dont feel victimized from the moment I wake up in the morning.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 7:08 pm
You’re absolutely right. “Like a dog” is a term of endearment, and that’s the way I took it. I mean., who doesn’t like dogs, right? And the “obvious psychopathic intent” is just a reflection of your many years as a clinical psychiatrist.
But of course, only a p*ssy would take “Im not a liberal and therefore dont feel victimized from the moment I wake up in the morning” as an insult. It’s clearly a simple statement of “fact” as you see it.
October 18th, 2007 at 7:14 pm129: You are about as smart, as a pig with a pocket watch. I didn’t say you were German, but you are using “stormtrooper” in your moniker (that means the name you use – I’m not sure what your level of education is), which implies German fascism. Get it?
October 18th, 2007 at 7:15 pmThanks for the reindeer idea Nevar, we’ll see if we can work it in.
Maybe we could let Santa and Mary have a roll in the hay, a melding of secular and Christian symbols?
October 18th, 2007 at 7:16 pm“Wait…I better get the shotgun from the freezer and gather up all my Nascar memorabilia…”
(Remember your porn collection under the bathroom sink too.)
October 18th, 2007 at 7:18 pm“Im with ya, time to eject Peter Stark (hoooo, kookyguy) and a large number of other dems from office. Who is with me?”
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 6:30 pm
Not me. Pete Stark (and his name is actually Fortney Stark — “Pete” is a nickname, not “Peter”) was my Congressman many years ago when I lived in the East Bay area. I was proud of him then and I’m proud of him now. And he will be re-elected far more easily than a lot of the Repubs who will have to fight tooth and nail to retain their seats.
Ah — but I’m getting off-topic. Sorry about that.
October 18th, 2007 at 7:18 pmSanta and Mary have a roll in the hay,
October 18th, 2007 at 7:20 pm…in the sleigh…
I see, so its true, there is righteous (again, should that be lefteous) indignation at every turn.
Careful, if you parse it any longer it will turn to dust and gummitch will excoriate you for “derailing the threadâ€.
Feel better now or would a glass of water help?
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 7:19 pm
A glass of water would be nice, thanks.
Can you point out the instances of “righteous (again, should that be lefteous) indignation at every turn“? After all, it’s in my best interests to learn your critiques of my posting character, and I’m sure you have great insights.
Thanks.
October 18th, 2007 at 7:22 pm140: Ever use apostrophes or are you still trying to graduate from your home school? e.g. “so it‘s true”
October 18th, 2007 at 7:24 pmLearn English or leave (Isn’t that another right wing talking point?)
143: Christ, use some commas, too.
October 18th, 2007 at 7:26 pmEats, Shoots and Leaves.
Sorry, I, didnt, know, you, were, having, trouble, keeping, up., Ill, do, my, best, to, keep, your, needs, in, mind.,
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 7:32 pm
Your Cro-Magnon genetics are dominating.
October 18th, 2007 at 7:34 pmComment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 7:29 pm
Its that (usually) silver thingie hanging over the sink. Put a glass underneath, operate the handle and witness the magic of modern industry.
Oh, my bad, I thought, “Feel better now or would a glass of water help?” was an offer. I didn’t stop to think how you would get me a glass of water through the Intenets. I just trusted that you could. But it’s enough to know that you’re concerned.
The references you are looking for are readily found on this very site (no kidding!), all you need do is peruse a random thread and read the liberal postings. I would try todays ‘FISA’ topic for instant results.
Again, my mistake; I thought you were referring to me and my own instances of “righteous (again, should that be lefteous) indignation at every turn“. I didn’t realize you were (not insulting by any means) commenting on the TP community as an entity. Thanks for clearing that up.
It’s really a kind of a pleasure to converse with a conservative who refuses to insult or generalize or stereotype us liberals, even those he’s assualted at every turn with “righteous (again, should that be lefteous) indignation“.
October 18th, 2007 at 7:36 pm146: In 1870, J. H. Davis filed a patent on a globe valve, the familiar faucet with a round handle.
October 18th, 2007 at 7:39 pmTypical that a rightie would view the latter part of the 19th century as “modern”.
What about “Rovian Trooper Commander” to replace your fascist moniker?
147: Now I know (insert comma) that you aren(insert apostrophe)t the sharpest knife in the drawer.
October 18th, 2007 at 7:42 pmIt’s really a kind of a pleasure to converse with a conservative who refuses to insult or generalize or stereotype us liberals, even those he’s assualted at every turn with “righteous (again, should that be lefteous) indignation“.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — October 18, 2007 @ 7:36 pm
You miss the point, ralph. The point is that now the “conversation” is about the troll. He’s succeeded in getting the attention he needs, which is obviously all he cares about.
October 18th, 2007 at 7:43 pmOctober 18th, 2007 at 7:46 pm
You miss the point, ralph. The point is that now the “conversation†is about the troll. He’s succeeded in getting the attention he needs, which is obviously all he cares about.
Comment by gummitch — October 18, 2007 @ 7:43 pm
We know, but sometimes you just can’t help playing a little Whack-a-Troll.
Comment by helenahandbasket — October 18, 2007 @ 7:46 pm
I certainly can refrain from playing whack-a-troll, when they refuse to engage in actual conversation. When a troll merely engages in disruptive posting, ad hominems, and/or building straw men, I merely…click on the link provided. Hmm hmm. Report Abuse is most assuredly your friend (and mine).
I’ve clicked on that button a good 2-dozen times in this post alone. I’m sure another sock-puppet will be provided forthwith.
And yes, some of us know damned well what is going on, and ignore said trolls. If one actually seems intelligent, yet severely misguided, or “get off” on being contrary for the sake of being contrary (such as O. Bigfoot), I will attempt to engage. If that still bears no fruit, buh-bye.
October 18th, 2007 at 7:54 pmAnother divisive marketing campaign by some enterprising capitalist looking to make $ on politicizing Christmas. Oh well, looks like there still are plenty of rubes, like RSC, ready to make his dream come true. Given what’s gone on in this country the past 7 years, the spirit of Christmas is pretty well pooched anyway. Let the scavengers pick the carcass clean.
October 18th, 2007 at 7:54 pmWhy are the conservatives attacking conservative Christopher ‘atheist’ Hitchens?
Heh.
October 18th, 2007 at 8:36 pmYou miss the point, ralph. The point is that now the “conversation†is about the troll. He’s succeeded in getting the attention he needs, which is obviously all he cares about.
Comment by gummitch — October 18, 2007 @ 7:43 pm
I know, and I apologize to the TP community whose time I wasted.
I just got into a Wack-a-Troll politeness groove and, well, once I got Stormie to admit that he made up the crap about “Merry Christmas” lawsuits, I was on a roll.
Sorry, all.
October 18th, 2007 at 8:40 pmEverything’s a war to these infantile, shrieking bastards.
October 18th, 2007 at 8:41 pmIm not German.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 7:06 pm
Doesn’t mean you’re not a Nazi does it? Got fascism?
October 18th, 2007 at 9:04 pmAnnoy a Liberal. Have a Merrry Chistmas.
Comment by TCDon — October 18, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
Make a fool of yerself. It’s a free country, or used ta be!
October 18th, 2007 at 10:30 pmOh crap, not this sh!t again this year. Man If I have to hear Bill 0 IQ rant and rave over this made up war on christmas I will just puke.
Liberals love Christmas too TCDon’t (be like me)
Buck Fush
October 18th, 2007 at 10:33 pmGood point. It’s not like vanity trolls such as RSC actually contribute intelligent discussion to this site. If they could argue their position based on conviction and a grasp of facts, that would be one thing. All I see are insults, flame-baiting, or distractions. Either they are lonely people who crave attention that they can’t get from normal human interaction or they have other agendas other than arguing the OP on its merits. A single post doesn’t bother me, but a continuous string of “I know you are, but what am I” non-responses ought to be grounds to dismiss for general buffoonary
October 18th, 2007 at 10:34 pmBuckie, they got nothing left to argue over.
Every last blessed thing BuschCo has touched over the last 7 yrs has turned to total, uncut Sh*t on them. Rarely have I seen ineptitude on this scale. Across-the-board FAILURE. Flag-burning and the War on Xmas is all these pathetic clowns have left to go on.
The Cons are melting like the Wicked Witch in the Wizard of Oz.
Just think “Total, abject, sniveling DESPERATION” and you got ‘em.
October 18th, 2007 at 11:26 pm# 28.
What a silly, stupid cause.
Comment by Candyce — October 18, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
It’s not a cause, it’s a distraction. They need to do everything they can to hold on to that 24%, even if it means bringing out old, worn out games. After all, it’s all they’ve got.
October 18th, 2007 at 11:42 pmDildo Reilly is having Christmas scenes painted on his dildos this year and each one of them says “Just Say Merry Christmas” on them, too.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:11 amWhy are Christians so protective of their Pagan holidays?
October 19th, 2007 at 12:33 amLet’s keep the “X” in “X-Mas”!
October 19th, 2007 at 12:48 amThis “War on Christmas” canard is getting very old, very quickly.
The worst part is that the ditto-heads fall for it every single year.
It is true you can fool some people all the time.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:50 amAmazing Christmas Light Show
October 19th, 2007 at 12:51 amEaster seems far more messed up than Christmas with all the clear focus on fertility and such. Sure some folks do the church gig and all but the marketing of the “holiday” and the majority of the activities engaged in revolve around candy, rabbits, eggs, fake grass, and such. How come the freaks are not more wiggy about this rather than this dumb shit
October 19th, 2007 at 12:56 amI hate Xmas and Xmas music. Better keep that shit out of my face.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — October 18, 2007 @ 5:43 pm
I respect your opinion and many of your comments on TP. I like Xmas. Would you allow me that right? If not, why?
October 19th, 2007 at 1:20 amHaven’t we seen this movie? Merry Christmas Larry Craig!
October 19th, 2007 at 1:28 amWhy are Christians so protective of their Pagan holidays?
Comment by dbadass — October 19, 2007 @ 12:33 am
Maybe because they are OUR holidays! Aren’t you always complaining about Republican imposition of beliefs? Why would you want to do the same? I respect your atheism, please respect my Chistianism. Is that fair?
October 19th, 2007 at 1:29 amHi Foreyes:
October 19th, 2007 at 1:35 amMight you be mistaking me for someone else? I don’t remember any history of saying anything whatsoever about “republican imposition of beliefs” As to holidays I think everyone should enjoy them however they want. Except of course St. Patrick’s Day and Cinco De Mayo.
Dude, i was born on Cinco De Mayo. Pass the cervesa por favor.
Ho ho ho and a bottle of rum, this holdiday sh!t is way too dumb.
October 19th, 2007 at 1:43 amYou must have some interesting birthday tales to tell but still these are the holidays which people should be debating!
October 19th, 2007 at 1:47 amExcept of course St. Patrick’s Day and Cinco De Mayo.
Comment by dbadass — October 19, 2007 @ 1:35 am
Both of them are favorites of mine, not being a Mexican. El batallon St. Patrick went over to the Mexican side when they realized that it was a war for territory. They were later hung as traitors. Talk about ethics on the American side, will you.
October 19th, 2007 at 1:59 amClearly these days mean so very much to you at a very deep and meaningful level. How do you feel about the hijacking of such important aspects of your spiritual being by the glorification of alcohol by those industries which profit from green beer and shitty Mexican food.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:09 amthose industries which profit from green beer and shitty Mexican food.
Comment by dbadass — October 19, 2007 @ 2:09 am
There is no such thing as “shitty Mexican food”. Anyone who has tasted it wil tell you so, sorry but you’re wrong.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:17 amWe will have to agree to disagree as compared to the wonderous meals I have enjoyed in Mexico, this east coast bullshit pretend stuff is indeed bad. Sorry to disagree but the mainstreaming of cuisine just turns it into a cryovaked reheat world
October 19th, 2007 at 2:26 amI hear they have really good Italian at the “Olive Garden”
October 19th, 2007 at 2:32 amI’m in charge of a Sunday School. I start the day with Bible reading and prayer. I run a youth group at my church. I’m a liturgical musician married to a clergyperson. I believe in the divinity, death, and resurrection of Jesus. I’m a liberal who subscribes to Sojourners magazine. Not only I would very much like to get the the bumper sticker “Merry Mas” I’d like to start a web site devoted to jihad against Christmas. The one person most offended by that idea is a friend who is a non-observant Jew, lawyer at the ACLU who absolutely loves secular, figgy pudding, mall-decorated Christmas. The posters who put up the lies on this thread should just be to be ignored. Their irrelevance grows daily. Let them join my Jewish friend in celebrating a minor Christian holiday and tell their fairy tales about Christmas (ever compare the three nativity stories in the 4 Gospels, “believers”?)
October 19th, 2007 at 7:47 amAs a practicing Christian, I find the “war on Christmas” quite humorous.
Why do we put so much “stock” in the birth of our savior? It’s the resurrection that is of most importance for us. And isn’t the spend spend spend mentality leading up to Dec 25th go against His preaching of helping the poor?
Anyways, when I worked in a public pharmacy, I always answered the phones “Happy Holidays…” around Dec 24th (way before it was politically incorrect). Why? Two reasons, one because it was respectful to non Christians. ( I would feel uncomfortable if a clerk wished me a Happy Hannakah or a Blessed Ramadan, since I don’t know anything about those holidays). Secondly, we celebrate TWO occasions that time of year. Why would I not want to wish someone a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Thus the plural at the end of Holiday.
October 19th, 2007 at 10:04 amAnyone who gets stressed about such non issues as not addressing every patron “Merry Christmas”, really, really REALLY needs to re-evaluate their life!!!
Shouldn’t Christmas be a uniter, not a divider?
I envision a bumper sticker with Santa, Rudolph, Frosty, and Elf and a Gingerbread man on one side and Baby Jesus, Mary, Joseph, a Shepherd and an Angel on the other, both groups pointing rifles at each other and shooting it out.
October 19th, 2007 at 10:08 amSecondly, we celebrate TWO occasions that time of year. Why would I not want to wish someone a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Thus the plural at the end of Holiday.
Comment by DRxJ — October 19, 2007 @ 10:04 am
This is how I remember the practice being explained to me, about 40 years ago. It’s only been in the last few years – when some Christians developed their absurd persecution complex – that it has become a “War on Christmas.”
October 19th, 2007 at 11:24 amWhat a silly, stupid cause.
Comment by Candyce — October 18, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
It’s not a cause, it’s a distraction. They need to do everything they can to hold on to that 24%, even if it means bringing out old, worn out games. After all, it’s all they’ve got.
Comment by wijg — October 18, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
More than a cause or a distraction — it’s a COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITY! Only in America can somebody find a way to make money off of anything.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:43 amMy first thought was to kick Bill O’Reilly square in the nuts. I hate Xmas and Xmas music. Better keep that shit out of my face.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — October 18, 2007 @ 5:43 pm
Sorry Marcus, but Bill O’Reilly doesn’t own Xmas. As far as keeping it out of your face, aren’t you being a bit unreasonable? What is it about Xmas that makes you feel that way? I’d like to know.
October 20th, 2007 at 5:28 amAnd, apparently the comment section for this thread was closed right after you posted, because I’ve posted twice in response to Foreyes last post, but they have not shown up.
October 20th, 2007 at 11:25 amSorry Marcus, but Bill O’Reilly doesn’t own Xmas. As far as keeping it out of your face, aren’t you being a bit unreasonable? What is it about Xmas that makes you feel that way? I’d like to know.
Comment by foreyes — October 20, 2007 @ 5:28 am
How about some perspective, Foreyes. First, full disclosure, I am an atheist who loves Christmas and the holidays. It is overall a fun, pleasant time of the year for me.
However, I loathe professional sports. The idea of watching someone else play sports seems silly to me. Playing sports? Oh, yeah, that is fun. Watching someone else? Ummm, no. I’d rather bang my head against a wall. The constant driving around in vehicles laden with Team America (”F***, yeah!”) colors, screaming their love for Team America (”F***, yeah!”), honking and yelling at other cars and pedestrians their support for Team America (”F***, yeah!”). Endlessly trying to involve those who’ve expressly disclosed their lack of interest or extreme dislike of sports into conversations about Team America (”F***, yeah!”), or about Team America’s (”F***, yeah!”) Sports Star X!
Now, picture it if, from Halloween until the New Year, everywhere you turn there is Team America (”F***, yeah!”) product in every store regardless of their connection to sports otherwise. Imagine endless Team America (”F***, yeah!”) music on the radio for those months. Imagine every retailer, half the people on the street, and television utterly dominated by greeting and salutations of “Go, Team America! (”F***, yeah!”)”
That would drive me completely and utterly batty. I’d be ready to choke a b*tch pretty damned quickly, especially is such a phenomenon began to occur every year of my life.
THAT is what is must be like for those who hate Christmas, and don’t want it shoved in their faces every year. So really, have some empathy.
October 20th, 2007 at 11:26 amOk, apparently it was the language filters, even though I bleeped out “F***, Yeah!”, albeit not quite so thoroughly as this time.
October 20th, 2007 at 11:27 amSo really, have some empathy.
Comment by Moderation — October 20, 2007 @ 11:26 am
I understand what you’re saying and I would never try to impose my own beliefs on anybody else. I was just curious about Marcus’ comment, that’s all.
October 20th, 2007 at 5:33 pmChristmas: enraging liberals since 1 A.D.
Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 5:50 pm
And yet, liberals are the ones fighting for health care for children. Mr Rovian, I would rather be on the side of atheists with a concience than on the side of Stormtroopers like you. You might celebrate Xmas but , you don’t know what Xmas is all about!
October 20th, 2007 at 6:14 pm