Comments on: Get ready for the War on Christmas. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:14:30 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: foreyes http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-4127431 foreyes Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:14:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-4127431 Christmas: enraging liberals since 1 A.D. Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 5:50 pm And yet, liberals are the ones fighting for health care for children. Mr Rovian, I would rather be on the side of atheists with a concience than on the side of Stormtroopers like you. You might celebrate Xmas but , you don't know what Xmas is all about! Christmas: enraging liberals since 1 A.D.

Comment by Rovian Stormtrooper Commander — October 18, 2007 @ 5:50 pm

And yet, liberals are the ones fighting for health care for children. Mr Rovian, I would rather be on the side of atheists with a concience than on the side of Stormtroopers like you. You might celebrate Xmas but , you don’t know what Xmas is all about!

]]> By: foreyes http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-4127394 foreyes Sat, 20 Oct 2007 21:33:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-4127394 So really, have some empathy. Comment by Moderation — October 20, 2007 @ 11:26 am I understand what you're saying and I would never try to impose my own beliefs on anybody else. I was just curious about Marcus' comment, that's all. So really, have some empathy.

Comment by Moderation — October 20, 2007 @ 11:26 am

I understand what you’re saying and I would never try to impose my own beliefs on anybody else. I was just curious about Marcus’ comment, that’s all.

]]> By: Moderation http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-4127226 Moderation Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:27:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-4127226 Ok, apparently it was the language filters, even though I bleeped out "F***, Yeah!", albeit not quite so thoroughly as this time. Ok, apparently it was the language filters, even though I bleeped out “F***, Yeah!”, albeit not quite so thoroughly as this time.

]]> By: Moderation http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-4127225 Moderation Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:26:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-4127225 <em>Sorry Marcus, but Bill O’Reilly doesn’t own Xmas. As far as keeping it out of your face, aren’t you being a bit unreasonable? What is it about Xmas that makes you feel that way? I’d like to know. Comment by foreyes — October 20, 2007 @ 5:28 am</em> How about some perspective, Foreyes. First, full disclosure, I am an atheist who loves Christmas and the holidays. It is overall a fun, pleasant time of the year for me. However, I loathe professional sports. The idea of watching someone else play sports seems silly to me. Playing sports? Oh, yeah, that is fun. Watching someone else? Ummm, no. I'd rather bang my head against a wall. The constant driving around in vehicles laden with Team America ("F***, yeah!") colors, screaming their love for Team America ("F***, yeah!"), honking and yelling at other cars and pedestrians their support for Team America ("F***, yeah!"). Endlessly trying to involve those who've expressly disclosed their lack of interest or extreme dislike of sports into conversations about Team America ("F***, yeah!"), or about Team America's ("F***, yeah!") Sports Star X! Now, picture it if, from Halloween until the New Year, everywhere you turn there is Team America ("F***, yeah!") product in every store regardless of their connection to sports otherwise. Imagine endless Team America ("F***, yeah!") music on the radio for those months. Imagine every retailer, half the people on the street, and television utterly dominated by greeting and salutations of "Go, Team America! ("F***, yeah!")" That would drive me completely and utterly batty. I'd be ready to choke a b*tch pretty damned quickly, especially is such a phenomenon began to occur every year of my life. THAT is what is must be like for those who hate Christmas, and don't want it shoved in their faces every year. So really, have some empathy. Sorry Marcus, but Bill O’Reilly doesn’t own Xmas. As far as keeping it out of your face, aren’t you being a bit unreasonable? What is it about Xmas that makes you feel that way? I’d like to know.

Comment by foreyes — October 20, 2007 @ 5:28 am

How about some perspective, Foreyes. First, full disclosure, I am an atheist who loves Christmas and the holidays. It is overall a fun, pleasant time of the year for me.

However, I loathe professional sports. The idea of watching someone else play sports seems silly to me. Playing sports? Oh, yeah, that is fun. Watching someone else? Ummm, no. I’d rather bang my head against a wall. The constant driving around in vehicles laden with Team America (”F***, yeah!”) colors, screaming their love for Team America (”F***, yeah!”), honking and yelling at other cars and pedestrians their support for Team America (”F***, yeah!”). Endlessly trying to involve those who’ve expressly disclosed their lack of interest or extreme dislike of sports into conversations about Team America (”F***, yeah!”), or about Team America’s (”F***, yeah!”) Sports Star X!

Now, picture it if, from Halloween until the New Year, everywhere you turn there is Team America (”F***, yeah!”) product in every store regardless of their connection to sports otherwise. Imagine endless Team America (”F***, yeah!”) music on the radio for those months. Imagine every retailer, half the people on the street, and television utterly dominated by greeting and salutations of “Go, Team America! (”F***, yeah!”)”

That would drive me completely and utterly batty. I’d be ready to choke a b*tch pretty damned quickly, especially is such a phenomenon began to occur every year of my life.

THAT is what is must be like for those who hate Christmas, and don’t want it shoved in their faces every year. So really, have some empathy.

]]> By: Moderation http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-4127224 Moderation Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:25:32 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-4127224 And, apparently the comment section for this thread was closed right after you posted, because I've posted twice in response to Foreyes last post, but they have not shown up. And, apparently the comment section for this thread was closed right after you posted, because I’ve posted twice in response to Foreyes last post, but they have not shown up.

]]> By: foreyes http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-4127128 foreyes Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:28:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-4127128 My first thought was to kick Bill O’Reilly square in the nuts. I hate Xmas and Xmas music. Better keep that shit out of my face. Comment by Marcus Aurelius — October 18, 2007 @ 5:43 pm Sorry Marcus, but Bill O'Reilly doesn't own Xmas. As far as keeping it out of your face, aren't you being a bit unreasonable? What is it about Xmas that makes you feel that way? I'd like to know. My first thought was to kick Bill O’Reilly square in the nuts. I hate Xmas and Xmas music. Better keep that shit out of my face.

Comment by Marcus Aurelius — October 18, 2007 @ 5:43 pm

Sorry Marcus, but Bill O’Reilly doesn’t own Xmas. As far as keeping it out of your face, aren’t you being a bit unreasonable? What is it about Xmas that makes you feel that way? I’d like to know.

]]> By: missmolly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-4126139 missmolly Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:43:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-4126139 What a silly, stupid cause. Comment by Candyce — October 18, 2007 @ 5:52 pm It’s not a cause, it’s a distraction. They need to do everything they can to hold on to that 24%, even if it means bringing out old, worn out games. After all, it’s all they’ve got. Comment by wijg — October 18, 2007 @ 11:42 pm More than a cause or a distraction -- it's a COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITY! Only in America can somebody find a way to make money off of anything. What a silly, stupid cause.

Comment by Candyce — October 18, 2007 @ 5:52 pm

It’s not a cause, it’s a distraction. They need to do everything they can to hold on to that 24%, even if it means bringing out old, worn out games. After all, it’s all they’ve got.

Comment by wijg — October 18, 2007 @ 11:42 pm

More than a cause or a distraction — it’s a COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITY! Only in America can somebody find a way to make money off of anything.

]]> By: Bienville http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-4126118 Bienville Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:24:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-4126118 <em>Secondly, we celebrate TWO occasions that time of year. Why would I not want to wish someone a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Thus the plural at the end of Holiday. Comment by DRxJ — October 19, 2007 @ 10:04 am</em> This is how I remember the practice being explained to me, about 40 years ago. It's only been in the last few years - when some Christians developed their absurd persecution complex - that it has become a "War on Christmas." Secondly, we celebrate TWO occasions that time of year. Why would I not want to wish someone a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Thus the plural at the end of Holiday.

Comment by DRxJ — October 19, 2007 @ 10:04 am

This is how I remember the practice being explained to me, about 40 years ago. It’s only been in the last few years – when some Christians developed their absurd persecution complex – that it has become a “War on Christmas.”

]]> By: Squeaky Wheels http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-4126045 Squeaky Wheels Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:08:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-4126045 Shouldn't Christmas be a uniter, not a divider? I envision a bumper sticker with Santa, Rudolph, Frosty, and Elf and a Gingerbread man on one side and Baby Jesus, Mary, Joseph, a Shepherd and an Angel on the other, both groups pointing rifles at each other and shooting it out. Shouldn’t Christmas be a uniter, not a divider?

I envision a bumper sticker with Santa, Rudolph, Frosty, and Elf and a Gingerbread man on one side and Baby Jesus, Mary, Joseph, a Shepherd and an Angel on the other, both groups pointing rifles at each other and shooting it out.

]]> By: DRxJ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-4126043 DRxJ Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:04:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-4126043 As a practicing Christian, I find the "war on Christmas" quite humorous. Why do we put so much "stock" in the birth of our savior? It's the resurrection that is of most importance for us. And isn't the spend spend spend mentality leading up to Dec 25th go against His preaching of helping the poor? Anyways, when I worked in a public pharmacy, I always answered the phones "Happy Holidays..." around Dec 24th (way before it was politically incorrect). Why? Two reasons, one because it was respectful to non Christians. ( I would feel uncomfortable if a clerk wished me a Happy Hannakah or a Blessed Ramadan, since I don't know anything about those holidays). Secondly, we celebrate TWO occasions that time of year. Why would I not want to wish someone a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Thus the plural at the end of Holiday. Anyone who gets stressed about such non issues as not addressing every patron "Merry Christmas", really, really REALLY needs to re-evaluate their life!!! As a practicing Christian, I find the “war on Christmas” quite humorous.
Why do we put so much “stock” in the birth of our savior? It’s the resurrection that is of most importance for us. And isn’t the spend spend spend mentality leading up to Dec 25th go against His preaching of helping the poor?

Anyways, when I worked in a public pharmacy, I always answered the phones “Happy Holidays…” around Dec 24th (way before it was politically incorrect). Why? Two reasons, one because it was respectful to non Christians. ( I would feel uncomfortable if a clerk wished me a Happy Hannakah or a Blessed Ramadan, since I don’t know anything about those holidays). Secondly, we celebrate TWO occasions that time of year. Why would I not want to wish someone a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Thus the plural at the end of Holiday.
Anyone who gets stressed about such non issues as not addressing every patron “Merry Christmas”, really, really REALLY needs to re-evaluate their life!!!

]]> By: kayakgirl http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-4125975 kayakgirl Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:47:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-4125975 I'm in charge of a Sunday School. I start the day with Bible reading and prayer. I run a youth group at my church. I'm a liturgical musician married to a clergyperson. I believe in the divinity, death, and resurrection of Jesus. I'm a liberal who subscribes to Sojourners magazine. Not only I would very much like to get the the bumper sticker "Merry Mas" I'd like to start a web site devoted to jihad against Christmas. The one person most offended by that idea is a friend who is a non-observant Jew, lawyer at the ACLU who absolutely loves secular, figgy pudding, mall-decorated Christmas. The posters who put up the lies on this thread should just be to be ignored. Their irrelevance grows daily. Let them join my Jewish friend in celebrating a minor Christian holiday and tell their fairy tales about Christmas (ever compare the three nativity stories in the 4 Gospels, "believers"?) I’m in charge of a Sunday School. I start the day with Bible reading and prayer. I run a youth group at my church. I’m a liturgical musician married to a clergyperson. I believe in the divinity, death, and resurrection of Jesus. I’m a liberal who subscribes to Sojourners magazine. Not only I would very much like to get the the bumper sticker “Merry Mas” I’d like to start a web site devoted to jihad against Christmas. The one person most offended by that idea is a friend who is a non-observant Jew, lawyer at the ACLU who absolutely loves secular, figgy pudding, mall-decorated Christmas. The posters who put up the lies on this thread should just be to be ignored. Their irrelevance grows daily. Let them join my Jewish friend in celebrating a minor Christian holiday and tell their fairy tales about Christmas (ever compare the three nativity stories in the 4 Gospels, “believers”?)

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-4125944 dbadass Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:32:32 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-4125944 I hear they have really good Italian at the "Olive Garden" I hear they have really good Italian at the “Olive Garden”

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-4125943 dbadass Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:26:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-4125943 We will have to agree to disagree as compared to the wonderous meals I have enjoyed in Mexico, this east coast bullshit pretend stuff is indeed bad. Sorry to disagree but the mainstreaming of cuisine just turns it into a cryovaked reheat world We will have to agree to disagree as compared to the wonderous meals I have enjoyed in Mexico, this east coast bullshit pretend stuff is indeed bad. Sorry to disagree but the mainstreaming of cuisine just turns it into a cryovaked reheat world

]]> By: foreyes http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-4125942 foreyes Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:17:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-4125942 those industries which profit from green beer and shitty Mexican food. Comment by dbadass — October 19, 2007 @ 2:09 am There is no such thing as "shitty Mexican food". Anyone who has tasted it wil tell you so, sorry but you're wrong. those industries which profit from green beer and shitty Mexican food.

Comment by dbadass — October 19, 2007 @ 2:09 am

There is no such thing as “shitty Mexican food”. Anyone who has tasted it wil tell you so, sorry but you’re wrong.

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-4125941 dbadass Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:09:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-4125941 Clearly these days mean so very much to you at a very deep and meaningful level. How do you feel about the hijacking of such important aspects of your spiritual being by the glorification of alcohol by those industries which profit from green beer and shitty Mexican food. Clearly these days mean so very much to you at a very deep and meaningful level. How do you feel about the hijacking of such important aspects of your spiritual being by the glorification of alcohol by those industries which profit from green beer and shitty Mexican food.

]]> By: foreyes http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-4125939 foreyes Fri, 19 Oct 2007 05:59:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-4125939 Except of course St. Patrick’s Day and Cinco De Mayo. Comment by dbadass — October 19, 2007 @ 1:35 am Both of them are favorites of mine, not being a Mexican. El batallon St. Patrick went over to the Mexican side when they realized that it was a war for territory. They were later hung as traitors. Talk about ethics on the American side, will you. Except of course St. Patrick’s Day and Cinco De Mayo.

Comment by dbadass — October 19, 2007 @ 1:35 am

Both of them are favorites of mine, not being a Mexican. El batallon St. Patrick went over to the Mexican side when they realized that it was a war for territory. They were later hung as traitors. Talk about ethics on the American side, will you.

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-4125937 dbadass Fri, 19 Oct 2007 05:47:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-4125937 You must have some interesting birthday tales to tell but still these are the holidays which people should be debating! You must have some interesting birthday tales to tell but still these are the holidays which people should be debating!

]]> By: ForTruth http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-4125935 ForTruth Fri, 19 Oct 2007 05:43:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-4125935 Dude, i was born on Cinco De Mayo. Pass the cervesa por favor. Ho ho ho and a bottle of rum, this holdiday sh!t is way too dumb. Dude, i was born on Cinco De Mayo. Pass the cervesa por favor.

Ho ho ho and a bottle of rum, this holdiday sh!t is way too dumb.

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-4125934 dbadass Fri, 19 Oct 2007 05:35:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-4125934 Hi Foreyes: Might you be mistaking me for someone else? I don't remember any history of saying anything whatsoever about "republican imposition of beliefs" As to holidays I think everyone should enjoy them however they want. Except of course St. Patrick's Day and Cinco De Mayo. Hi Foreyes:
Might you be mistaking me for someone else? I don’t remember any history of saying anything whatsoever about “republican imposition of beliefs” As to holidays I think everyone should enjoy them however they want. Except of course St. Patrick’s Day and Cinco De Mayo.

]]> By: foreyes http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-4125931 foreyes Fri, 19 Oct 2007 05:29:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/18/get-ready-for-the-war-on-christmas/#comment-4125931 Why are Christians so protective of their Pagan holidays? Comment by dbadass — October 19, 2007 @ 12:33 am Maybe because they are OUR holidays! Aren't you always complaining about Republican imposition of beliefs? Why would you want to do the same? I respect your atheism, please respect my Chistianism. Is that fair? Why are Christians so protective of their Pagan holidays?

Comment by dbadass — October 19, 2007 @ 12:33 am

Maybe because they are OUR holidays! Aren’t you always complaining about Republican imposition of beliefs? Why would you want to do the same? I respect your atheism, please respect my Chistianism. Is that fair?

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