Can I use that when I’m next pulled over for speeding? “Officer, I swear, I didn’t see the speed limit sign showing a lower speed. I didn’t know I was breaking the law. I acted in good faith because I wanted to get to work on time to prevent my employer from losing production.”

In this country, any legislative definition or authorization would probably be a shoe-in, given that Mary Poppins we call Pelsoi.

Terrorists are easy to identify, apparently, if you’re the “decider.

“Bush stage a terrorist attack.”

Could that happen? If it did, would he blame it on the dems and use it for political gain.

Pootie did . . . and it was ever so effective.

Don’t know if Bush ever followed suit, but he has sure used 9-11 to great effect.

9-11 should be banned as any reason for any future legislation.

The politicization of a national disaster should be shunned.

Any pol that continues to attempt to capitolize on the death of thousands should be ostracized.

Facts point to the fact that 9-11 was a tragedy that not only could have been averted, but that was forseeable and utilized for political purposes.

Sickening, but more and more, glaringly true.

Go dubya.

“the Senate Intelligence Committee had reached an agreement with the White House on FISA reform legislation. That agreement reportedly “would give telephone carriers legal immunity for any role they played in the National Security Agency’s domestic eavesdropping program approved by President Bush after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.”

Since there is more than one democrat, there is more than one reason. I can offer 2

1) Bribery or blackmail. When you’ve been tapping everyones phone you know about all thier misstresses, lies, and infidilities, etc. If you think this doesnt happen, well, then look back in history and see it was used to dig up dirt on people like martin luther king. If they can dig up dirt on a guy like that they can probably dig up dirt on almost any congressman.

or

2) They are afraid that Bush will stage a terrorist attack and blame it on the democrats not giving him everything he wants. Scoff if you want Bigfwat, just please, remind me again exactly where they determined the anthrax mailed to democrats only (and a tabloid who has published unflattering pictures of the bush twins) came from again? Do you recall?

Comment by Brain From Planet Arous — October 18, 2007 @ 8:55 pm

Theories? Let’s talk facts, shall we?

Such as the fact that one of the main hallmarks of the PNAC agenda included using a Pearl Harbor-like attack on the U.S. to open the door into American expansion in the Middle East.

And the fact that Bush didn’t take any warnings about an impending attack seriously, such as ignoring the PDB on Aug. 6, 2001. I believe it was Condi Rice who said that no one could have anticipated the attack, while the title of the PDB was “Bin Laden determined to strike in U.S.” Oh, but that was brushed off as historical information, and not taken seriously. Funny that historical information about Saddam’s actions and capabilities were front and center in Bush’s rush to invade Iraq at at time when that country was no threat to the U.S.

And the fact that apparently Bush didn’t bother to have a cabinet-level meeting on the issue of terrorism until days before 9/11.

And the fact that Cheney was given the job of creating a terrorism task force, yet did nothing.

And the fact that Bush sat in the classroom for 7 minutes and did nothing, after being told that a 2nd plane had it the WTC towers.

And the fact that no video of a plane hitting the Pentagon exists.

And the fact that steel from the WTC collapse was sold to foreign scrap recyclers (and not to American scrap recyclers) in record time.

And the fact that two airliners were off course, did not respond to communication requests, and the Air Force took no action.

And the fact that many witnesses report hearing explosions seconds before the towers collapsed.

And the fact that despite not being hit by any aircraft, WTC 7 collapsed in the very same manner as a building brought down by planned implosion. And the owner of the complex, Larry Silverstein, giving the order to “pull” the building seconds before it collapsed.

This particular passage was just too good not to throw out there one more time….

Should for foregoing be construed as a death threat?
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Comment by plunger — October 18, 2007 @ 8:26 pm?

Are you kidding? As in D&D? Magic? 10,000 hit points? A joke?

No conspiracies are present in the failure to miss your saving throw versus paranoia.

BTW, best damn T-Shirt I ever saw had “Jesus Saves” in huge letters on the front, and on the back it says “Everyone else takes 3 Damage”.

- O. Bigfoot

Bull shite. Bush has equated the “war” in Iraq with the “war” on terror. Bush had enormous support for a war against the terrorists immediately after 9/11. But people aren’t buying the Iraq war = war on terror, and Bush knows this because he has constantly been on a mission to sell this war to the public for several years now. On TV and on trips across the country (and to foreign locations), he constantly tells America and the world why we are fighting in Iraq and why we must continue.

As to the public supporting FISA, the issue currently being debated regarding giving the telcos immunity has nothing to do with supporting FISA. It has everything to do with allowing the telcos to break the law and get away with it. So glad you support the rule of law.

The government didn’t give a damn about tracking terrorists, for if they did, they’d get a fcking warrant and go to the telcos. They do not need the phone records of tens of millions of Americans to track what they themselves have maintained is a targeted, limited, program. The warrantless wiretapping program targets known or suspected terrorists, or so the administration tells us. There are not tens of millions of known or suspected terrorists, are there, Bigfoot?

Besides, why don’t you answer this question: if the program is legal, if the telcos have broken no laws, why the immunity request?

I’ll tell you why: it’s the same thing that happened when Bush told the world that his warrantless wiretapping program was legal, saying there was no discord in the administration over the program, and then proceeded to block an investigation by the Office of Professional Responsibility to see how attorneys in the Justice Dept. behaved in the manner. As we have seen lately, Bush lied and there were major disagreements in the program. You are familiar with James Comey’s testimony, correct??

It’s human nature to become complacent when you are on top and have it all. Americans don’t even appreciate thier freedoms, they don’t even know what they have. Countries who have had freedoms only for a short time are much more involved in their government and all go out and vote.

Humans have a tendency of not knowing what they had until it’s gone.

Comment by Race Condition — October 18, 2007

What theory of 9/11 do you adhere to, since they are all theories?

Boy, you ARE a mouth-breather with no critical thinking capability of your own, no wonder you have to copy-paste every idiot theory you come across.

JFGI.

Bullcrap.

Critical thinking of Zionists and Mossad is NOT anti-antisemitism. No more than criticizing Bush is Anti-American. In fact, many Ortodox Jews dislike The Likud Party, and are very critical of it.

You die.

Comment by Race Condition — October 18, 2007 @ 8:20 pm

Should for foregoing be construed as a death threat?

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