Rep. King’s new name for SCHIP.
By on Oct 18th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
Rep. King’s new name for SCHIP.
Today on the House floor, Rep. Steve King (R-IA) introduced a new name for the acronym SCHIP — “Socialized Clinton-style Hillarycare for Illegals and their Parents”:
For the record, SCHIP stands for the “State Children’s Health Insurance Program” and does not cover undocumented immigrants. Not surprisingly, King voted today to sustain Bush’s SCHIP veto.
(HT: Sadly, No!)
UPDATE: Earlier this week, Rep. Tom Feeney (R-FL) told USA Today that he refers to SCHIP as “Socialized, Cuba-style Health care for Illegals and their Parents.”
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King needs a new gag writer. That’s already an oldie. And it wasn’t even all that clever when it was fresh.
October 18th, 2007 at 2:47 pmThat is a truly disgusting and immature ploy.
October 18th, 2007 at 2:49 pmShouldn’t King be looking for those WMDs in Iraq he says he knows about?
October 18th, 2007 at 2:49 pm#1 — Looks like he’s recycling the chart then, since this screenshot is from the live debate this morning.
October 18th, 2007 at 2:49 pmOops! Wrong King. Peter King said he knew where the WMDs were. But this Kings sounds like every bit as much of a jackass as that King.
October 18th, 2007 at 2:49 pmThe Democrats need to say something about this now. They need to stop playing nice and start throwing these things right back at the Republicans. They look like wimps now.
October 18th, 2007 at 2:50 pmThis guy is a total tool. I’m sad to say that he’s from my former home state. I watched him in a debate back when I was in college about gay rights. I seriously don’t understand how people can think like this guy!
I should digg out the video and post it on youtube or something!
October 18th, 2007 at 2:50 pmRep. Steven King is far scarier than author Steven King. Truly the uninformed blind leading the blind. Someone stear them toward a cliff, please. Stupid lemmings.
October 18th, 2007 at 2:51 pmJeez, I’m surprised this stupid stunt alone wasn’t enough to convince some of the “Nay” votes to change their minds and vote for the program.
It’s astounding how childish some of these people really are. It’s like friggin’ recess.
October 18th, 2007 at 2:53 pmBreaking News!
Racist Pig lies on House Floor…
I just wish he was lying on the House Floor… Unconscious after someone with some nuts coldcocked his ass.
October 18th, 2007 at 2:53 pmI don’t know which is worse…
That you have a member of Congress actually saying this sort of thing on the floor of that august body…
or that you have other members of Congress meekly sitting on their hands and whispering “bad boy” without jumping to their feet and calling an a**hole an a**hole
October 18th, 2007 at 2:53 pmAh yeah!the “good ole” US congressperson.How can a guy(congress) who makes 166,000.00 & receives Gov’t funded healthcare turn around and tell you and I who make 40-60 grand that we can afford healthcare ?
October 18th, 2007 at 2:53 pmWhen are Americans really going to wake the F-up & see most Dems & all Repukes don’t give a shit about you and I.
So he referred to the Clinton’s twice? Couldn’t he have come up with another one, rather than doing a one for two deal with Hillarycare and clinton?? What a loser.
October 18th, 2007 at 2:54 pmwell… it just may have been effective too…
hillary’s name is magic that way…
can you imagine the continuing rhetoric if… you know…
ugh…
October 18th, 2007 at 2:55 pmSo he’s against ‘Clinton-style Hillarycare’
is he also for abolishing and doing away with redundancy?
October 18th, 2007 at 2:56 pmKing is showing typical GOP ignorance and lies.
With shitbirds like this, there will hardly be any Republicans in government afteer 2008.
Wooo Hooo!
October 18th, 2007 at 2:57 pmSo he’s against ‘Clinton-style Hillarycare’
is he also for abolishing and doing away with redundancy?
Exactly!!
October 18th, 2007 at 2:58 pmPerhaps he’s more in favor of Bushite GuantanemoCare?
October 18th, 2007 at 2:58 pmAh, Steven King…that master of sinister plots and horror to freeze the blood and warp reality…
..what? What book author? Who said anything about a book author?….
October 18th, 2007 at 2:59 pmGood one, Squeege…
October 18th, 2007 at 3:00 pmWho says these guys are not meanspirited, nasty and menacing?
October 18th, 2007 at 3:01 pmLet’s ask Rep. King about farm subsidies, shall we?
October 18th, 2007 at 3:03 pmHmmm, 80% of the public are in favor of extending SCHIP. And now SCHIP = Hillary Clinton style Healthcare. I guess that says it all.
October 18th, 2007 at 3:03 pm‘Clinton-style Hillarycare’?
Someone should tell Rep. King that SCHIP is a program initiated by the Republican controlled Congress in 1997.
Oh, what’s the point. The facts aren’t important to these wingnuts.
October 18th, 2007 at 3:04 pmRep. King is a . . .
October 18th, 2007 at 3:06 pmStupid
Congressional
Hypocrite
Insulting
Parents
Stupid
October 18th, 2007 at 3:07 pmCorporate
Ho’s
In
Power
OOps.
October 18th, 2007 at 3:07 pmRep. King should
October 18th, 2007 at 3:07 pmStop
Conning
His
Insular
Partisans
Zimzone
Stupid
Corporate
Ho’s
In
Power
SCHInower?
Forgive me for being confused…
October 18th, 2007 at 3:08 pmReprehensible f*cking scumbag
October 18th, 2007 at 3:09 pmCome November, 2008, we all can . . .
October 18th, 2007 at 3:09 pmStick it to
Conservatives
Help
Install
Progressives
On his web site he claims that SCHIP would be a windfall for illegal immigrants. But he doesn’t say how or why. I tried to send him an email to ask how he knows about this financial windfall, but my request was rejected because I don’t live in Iowa.
October 18th, 2007 at 3:11 pmCome November, 2008, we all can . . .
Stick it to
Conservatives
Help
Install
Progressives
Comment by helenahandbasket — October 18, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
You just might get your wish, helen…
October 18th, 2007 at 3:12 pmMaybe he thought it really meant:
Salsa
and
C
H
I
P
S
And he’s against illegal immigrants, so he’d be against what he thinks is their national food.
October 18th, 2007 at 3:12 pmI got another one for Rep. Steven King
Steve
October 18th, 2007 at 3:12 pmCan’t
Handle
Intelligent
People
What would a middle class right winger do if the had an incurable
October 18th, 2007 at 3:12 pmStaph infection
Causing
Hospital bills to
Invade his
Pocketbook?
This is ridiculous. These are the people who we have elected to have informed intelligent debate. Is this the best we can send to Washington?
(I am speaking as the proverbial “we” as in “We the People”).
October 18th, 2007 at 3:13 pmAs our frustration continually increases, I read this article. I know it has NOTHING to do with this thread….except it actually does. And most or all of the others as well.
“Sometimes truly American virtues arise in outlaws who — by dint of heroic but questionable endeavors — display the mettle of the national character. ”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/17/AR2007101702359.html?wpisrc=newsletter
October 18th, 2007 at 3:15 pmSickening
October 18th, 2007 at 3:18 pmConservative
Has
Ingrown
P—-
I was wondering how long it would take for them to do a true Hillary/Clinton-bashing stunt like this… and we’re not even into 2008 yet.
October 18th, 2007 at 3:19 pmWhat I wonder is why they are allowed to do this on the floor of the House. House members are not allowed to disrespect each other and if this doesn’t show disrespect, I don’t know what does. Why didn’t some Democratic congressperson stand up and protest this?
God they are all a bunch of panseys.
October 18th, 2007 at 3:26 pm35:
Make up an Iowa address. Google will get you the right zip code and phone number to allow you to send King an email.
But please, be nice and creative . . .like this:
Dear Rep. King
Steve
Chopped off the
Heads of
Innocent
People
You get the idea – have fun.
October 18th, 2007 at 3:27 pmOn his web site he claims that SCHIP would be a windfall for illegal immigrants. But he doesn’t say how or why. I tried to send him an email to ask how he knows about this financial windfall, but my request was rejected because I don’t live in Iowa.
Comment by MeYeZone
This is easy to get around. Look for his street address. Then enter his street address, city, state and zip as your address. That will get you past his filters. I do this all the time with Harry Reid because Reid doesn’t have the courage to have a Senate Majority Leader website where any American can send him a message. At least that’s one point in Pelosi’s favor. She does have a Speaker of the House website where any American can send her a message. I do this every morning with my first Latte. Then I send one to Harry. I’m sure they are both royally sick of hearing from me but I don’t care. It makes me feel better. Besides, I’m sure neither of them have ever read my emails.
October 18th, 2007 at 3:31 pmHopefully, someone can arrange valet parking for him at le louisette;)
October 18th, 2007 at 3:31 pmSecuring
October 18th, 2007 at 3:34 pmCheney’s
Haliburton
Investment
Portfolio
As a resident of Iowa, I continue to be embarrassed by this extremist. In eastern Iowa, we elected two progressives in Bruce Braley and Dave Loebsack to congress in 2006. Hopefully the citizens of the western part of our state will replace this fanatic.
October 18th, 2007 at 3:34 pmSpitting on
October 18th, 2007 at 3:34 pmChildren
Helps
Insecure
Politicians
The bashing of Clinton is not surprising. The real problem is the people that see this sort of thing and take it as truth. This sort of thing is actually effective, and that’s what I find appalling. People are ignorant enough to believe this type of slander on the issue and the targeted person.
October 18th, 2007 at 3:37 pmSadistic
October 18th, 2007 at 3:42 pmCowards
Hurling
Irrational
Puke
TCDimwit:
Sophomoric
October 18th, 2007 at 3:45 pmContentions
Help
Ideologue’s
Prattle
Staw Man cleanup to Aisle 57.
October 18th, 2007 at 3:46 pmCan anyone explain where this whole “SCHIP is for illegals” idea came from (aside from the twisted fever dreams of the chronically bigoted)?
Is there anything in the bill that expands the program to make it more available to illegals than it currently is now?
In other words, is there anything AT ALL to this charge, or is it simply more knee-jerk right-wing lumping-and-demonizing?
October 18th, 2007 at 3:47 pm#60 ~ Seeing an awful lot of strawmen around lately.
Is it just Halloween right around the corner?
October 18th, 2007 at 3:47 pmStaw Man cleanup to Aisle 57.
Comment by helenahandbasket — October 18, 2007 @ 3:46 pm
Better wear some gloves — I think they used bits of straw that they picked out of cow manure.
October 18th, 2007 at 3:48 pmTCDimwit:
Stopping
October 18th, 2007 at 3:49 pmCorporate welfare
Helps
Insure
Prosperity
Specious
October 18th, 2007 at 3:49 pmClowns
Harboring
Idiotic
Pretensions
can’t you get censured for directly insulting a fellow member of Congress like this?
even Bush is for SCHIP, just not the funding level that he should be…
October 18th, 2007 at 3:50 pmTCDimwit:
I’ll take socialized medicine over the present system of insurance companies raping, pillaging and screwing over the little guy, any day.
October 18th, 2007 at 3:50 pmYou all know that would be the next step if this vast expansion into socialized medicine passed. Socialized medicine for all children (up to the age of 25), including illegals (who would all be made legal) would be next if the MoveOnocrats had their way. And somehow we’d manage to pay for it all (so they would claim) by only taxing the top 1% of wage-earners and “the evil corporations.â€
Of course you know that immigrants are excluded from being able to join this program. You wouldn’t want to lie to anyone, would you? What am I saying, lying is your modus operandi.
And yes, we could pay for a lot of social programs if we need by rescinding the tax break for the top 1% of wage earners and by making the corporations pay their fair share of income taxes in this country.
I have a question for you. Do you think it is OK for a US corporation to incorporate in the Caymen Islands (one house in the Caymen islands is home to over 14,000 corporations) just so they can get out of paying US income taxes?
Did you know that if we went back to taking corporations at the same rate they were taxed when Eisenhower was president we could pay off the huge national deficit Bush has rung up in one year?
October 18th, 2007 at 3:50 pmYeah, bilbo, but Ike was a commie.
October 18th, 2007 at 3:52 pmIs there anything in the bill that expands the program to make it more available to illegals than it currently is now?
In other words, is there anything AT ALL to this charge, or is it simply more knee-jerk right-wing lumping-and-demonizing?
Comment by ralph the wonder llama
No, there is nothing to it. The program specifically excludes undocumented aliens. It is nothing more than a figment of the neoCONS imagination and thrown in to confuse the issue. Apparently no one is buying it since 80% of Americans support expanding SCHIP. That’s a lot of Republicans in there. The Republicans running for office ignore their constituents at their own peril.
October 18th, 2007 at 3:53 pmComment by TCDon — October 18, 2007 @ 3:39 pm
I don’t even know where to start. First of all the logic itself is stupid. Don’t argue the downfalls of what you think the NEXT SCHIP bill will contain. That is not a valid argument. The current bill does not cover illegals. It does not cover “all children up to 25″. If you have a problem when they try to pass the bill that does all the things you think are so horrid (which aren’t by the way), fight against that bill when it is on the floor of our congress.
Now, something being “socialized” does not make it inherently bad. We have socialized Police. We have socialized Fire Fighters. We have socialized road maintenance. We have socialized education. You need to provide EVIDENCE and logical arguments that illustrate the negative impact on society. You have not done that – only shown how to create a straw man (and poorly at that).
October 18th, 2007 at 3:54 pmStop
October 18th, 2007 at 3:54 pmConservative
Hate for
Innocent
Pre-teens
I think TCDimwit was a hit and run troll.
October 18th, 2007 at 3:55 pmProbably having a good old time at redhate, cheering up the 24 per centers.
Yeah, bilbo, but Ike was a commie.
Comment by RUCerious
I do believe he was the one who warned us about the Military Industrial Complex, so I guess you are right.
October 18th, 2007 at 3:55 pmeven Bush is for SCHIP, just not the funding level that he should be…
Comment by Pete Bogs — October 18, 2007 @ 3:50 pm
Good point, Pete. This stunt, while being incredibly childish, also puts the GOP on the far side of the debate. In other words, where the SCHIP program was originally a bipartisan, very popular and effective solution to a critical problem, this guy King has very visibly placed himself and his party in the position of criticizing the ENTIRE PROGRAM.
Good luck with that, guys.
October 18th, 2007 at 3:55 pmWhenever someone asks TCDimwit a question he can’t answer from his list of RNC talking points, he hits the road. Its how all the trolls operate.
October 18th, 2007 at 3:57 pmTalk about geniuses. The Republicans have brilliantly maneuvered themselves into voting against children.
October 18th, 2007 at 4:07 pmBy the way, IF this were true, you would have nothing to worry about.
October 18th, 2007 at 4:08 pmTalk about geniuses. The Republicans have brilliantly maneuvered themselves into voting against children.
Comment by Perry logan — October 18, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
Yeah, but it was so worth it. They got to totally nail Hillary with a really really funny visual aid.
October 18th, 2007 at 4:09 pmKing is a classic wanker.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_King
BTW aren’t there rules about slandering other congeressmen while on the floor?
October 18th, 2007 at 4:11 pmI don’t know, but I don’t think there should be. I would rather everyone gets to see these congresspeoples’ true color. You can tell a lot about someone by how they carry themselves.
October 18th, 2007 at 4:18 pmBTW aren’t there rules about slandering other congeressmen while on the floor?
Comment by cd — October 18, 2007 @ 4:11 pm
I don’t know, but if there are, Mean Jean Schmidt must have skated around the perimeter of those rules when she implied that Jack Murtha was a coward.
Besides, Hillary is not a Congresswoman; she’s a Senator. Might make a diffference. It’s still classless, but it might make a difference.
October 18th, 2007 at 4:18 pmScrew
October 18th, 2007 at 4:20 pmChildren’s
Health
Ima
Prick
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA TCDon. You’re so funny. Now kiss your Republican party goodbye.
October 18th, 2007 at 4:20 pmPerhaps TCDon and all the other right-wing hypocrites/liars on SCHIP haven’t read their own private health insurance forms lately. Almost to a plan, private health insurers offer coverage to people up to the age of 25 IF they are (1) living with their parents at home,(2) in college, and (3) unmarried*. Most plans will also cover people OVER 25 who are totally dependent on their parents and/or legal guardians. Notably, this usually refers to those who suffer from severe physical disabilities or mental retardation; of course, these conditions have to have come about AFTER the parents enrolled in the health plans, especially in the last 15-20 years, since almost every health insurance program has become stricter with the “pre-existing conditions” clause (I think some providers are now attempting to require pregnant women to have amnios in order to gauge the possibility that the child will be born with a “pre-existing condition” and raise the parents’ premiums accordingly).
*Most insurance carriers (whether health, life, homeowners, or auto) automatically cut off all coverage for any policyholder’s child who gets married, even before the age of 18.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:50 pmIt appears that everybody has missed the point here.
The issue isn’t health insurance, rather it’s the rising cost of healthcare. If we focused on what healthcare actually costs us, we would realize that the bureaucrats and insurance companies actually reap a large percentage of the overall health care costs in our society. When you go to the doctor, do you ask how much that x-ray will cost you? No–you merely ask if they take your insurance provider. This is ridiculous.
What we need to do is realize that to fix our system, we need more doctors and nurse-practicioners. Entry into med school should be focused on ability, not an arbitrary MCAT test. We need health care that is not driven by insurance schemes, but on placing patients and doctors in direct contact with one another in order to drive down health costs.
Then, we can focus on what we really need insurance for–catastrophic health care costs, i.e., cancer-treatment, etc.
For all those who supported the expansion of SCHIP beyond reason, you need to take a deep breath and relax. No one is against the children of our country, and it doesn’t make sense to add more burdens on their future potential by sadling more (state-sponsored insurance schemes) debt onto their future working shoulders.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:56 pmHey TCDon, did you ever think (well, of course not, as a neoCON, you DON’T think–you parrot, but I digress……) but many posters actually get time off from work–you know, a day or two off or a vacation. Some people even, you know, WORK FROM HOME. (Surely you’ve seen all the commercials for the companies that need “home workers”–and they’re not talking about maids and domestic servants.)
October 18th, 2007 at 6:05 pmHeck, some people might even be well-off enough to not need to work–not all multi-millionaires are right-wing heartless SOBs (read about Warren Buffett–I won’t say you’ll learn anything since right-wingers rarely “learn”). We liberals even have a history of wealthy individuals more concerned about their fellow humans, who genuinely believe that it’s the duty and obligation of government to help those who need help (that last bit sounds a little bit like words uttered by Dubya’s favorite philosopher).
I am a bit curious however. You posted an item at 3:39pm (EDT) and then didn’t post again until 5:39pm (EDT) and you *claim* that you “have to work for a living”. Here’s what has me curious: What kind of job keeps you SOOOOO busy for ONLY two hours that you weren’t “here to respond to all” those posts? There’s only one kind of job applies that I can think of. By any chance, you wouldn’t also be known as James Guckert or Jeff Gannon, would you?
Paul Reickhoff points out that beneficiaries of the S-CHIP program are frequently children of those in the military.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:08 pmSo, to the chickenhawks……
Why don’t you support the troops and their families?
republicans hate facts:
You are a jerk. Quit sullying the threads with your vitriolic nonsense.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:08 pmI live less than 3 miles from the edge of King’s congressional district. He may well be the most right-wing member of the House. I know he has some position on Tom Tancredo’s campaign for President.
My Congressman, Lee Terry, is almost as right-wing as King. In 2006 Terry only got 55% of the vote against a candidate that I only saw one TV ad one time. Next time around he will get a serious challenge.
October 18th, 2007 at 7:18 pmI can only hope that his constituants do him a big favor and give him a new job outside of politics after the next time he runs for re-election.
October 18th, 2007 at 7:21 pm“No one is against the children of our country, and it doesn’t make sense to add more burdens on their future potential by sadling more (state-sponsored insurance schemes) debt onto their future working shoulders.”
Comment by JT
If we deployed out of Iraq, we’d have plenty of money for SCHIP.
October 18th, 2007 at 9:20 pmThere was a big mis-information campaign by the Democrats when they mis-stated the results of a poll claiming that 80% of Americans supported the expansion of SCHIP.
The democrats were lying. Nothing new.
Most folks support the existing SCHIP program.
Most folks do not support expanding the SCHIP program.
“As you may know, the Democrats want to allow a family of four earning about $62,000 to qualify for the program. President Bush wants most of the increases to go to families earning less than $41,000. Whose side do you favor?”
When put in those terms, 52% agreed with Bush: 40% with the Democrats.
Please. Stop lying.
October 18th, 2007 at 9:33 pmSorry I live in district that has a Congressperson that says what he feels and that is usually fairily on target. my Congressman is Pete Stark and I hope most of your Congress folk have at least one time when they can say what is right and folks can see thier votes went right.
Thats the only way that the we can change this garbage!
The Cal-State beacon on the hill over Hayward is winking at me and whole world that all you got to do is speak with conviction.
October 18th, 2007 at 11:04 pmRHF, please stop lying. How do you face each day?
October 18th, 2007 at 11:54 pmYou know, at this point, most people in Canada are probably saying, you go your way, we’ll go ours.
We’ll visit your country in the extant but not all that commonplace instances that supply momentarily can’t meet demand, and pay exorbitant prices for the privilege.
You can continue having a confusing, piecemeal, overhead-laden system that costs more than ours while failing to cover an increasing number.
It’ll be like a reality show, because hey, it’s real.
Let’s see who wins. If the currency market’s any indication…
October 19th, 2007 at 12:11 amFascist Senator Attacks Women and Children to the Delight of Bush Administration!
Republicans danced in the streets today in true nationalist style as they watched their favorite storm trooper senator virtually bootstomp women, children and families in the streets. Their furvor rose to a fevered pitch as they chanted “heil to Bush”! Several Democratic senators joined in, chanting “down with the middle class, let them eat cake”. The democratic leadership is expected to bow to Bush and lick his boots early tomorrow morning at the Supreme Court, site of the 2000 coup. New language is being drafted that will promote the idea that poor children do not need education and should be put to work in the oil fields so they can afford their own health insurance. A brave but insignificant group of leftists stood on the sidelines foolishly chanting some crap about family values and the American Dream. When will these anti-American trowbacks to the 60s ever wake up? American Dream my ass! Somebody ought to put these hippies in their place.
October 19th, 2007 at 1:51 amStupid
October 19th, 2007 at 9:53 amConservative
Holding
Iowa
Prisoner
I read just about every “GOOFY” statement on this blog. Why is it that not one liberal will debate “Facts”. Liberals would sooner talk like little kids with no willingness to see past their small minds.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:05 amWhat we need is 20 million more smokers to pay for the Liberals handouts to Illegals and people making $70k. Oh, fact is most smokers are in the lower income brackets.
I don’t expect one of your left thinking liberals to debate the facts. Facts that our own Federal Government stated.
On last thing. Why are the Democrats against having voters with a ID card? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
I hope the next time the Democrats put this bill up it wins…but without the grossly unfair tobacco tax. That was a Republican idea, an incredibly regressive tax…a sin tax, like all good Republicans love.
I also hope the media does a better job of talking about the funding plan for the bill next time than it did this time. The tobacco tax, of sixty-one cents per pack on every person who smokes, regardless of income, was all but kept secret.
SCHIP is a good program and deserves to be expanded. But everyone should be involved in paying for it, not just the demon du jour minority.
October 19th, 2007 at 1:15 pmHah. I just love people who want to do good with my money but not theirs. Your generosity (and concern for children)clearly knows limits.
October 19th, 2007 at 6:39 pmThe people of Iowa should be ashamed of this nasty clown named Steve King. What part of the state does he represent? If this is a GOP area that voted for this pathetic excuse for a HR member, here’s your question of the night:
What ever happened to “family values?” King and the GOP members of the HR who voted against S-CHIP use this phrase without any idea of what it means to really uphold family values.
Thank you to the Frost and Wilkerson families for showing what it means to value families and children’s health.
October 20th, 2007 at 8:52 pm