After Calling Graeme Frost A Liar, Limbaugh Asserts ‘I Never Once Attacked This Family’
After Calling Graeme Frost A Liar, Limbaugh Asserts ‘I Never Once Attacked This Family’
On his radio show earlier this month, Rush Limbaugh participated in the smearing of 12-year old SCHIP recipient Graeme Frost. Limbaugh introduced the segment, saying: “I had some rudimentary information on this two weeks ago, and it wasn’t enough for me to trust going with. But since then, it has been verified, and most of it’s been verified by a ‘Freeper’ at Free Republic.”
Limbaugh propagated the now-debunked claim that Graeme Frost was actually a well-off kid being pampered by the government. He then explicitly called Graeme a liar who had been corrupted by the Senate Democratic Leadership:
So the bottom line for me is: They can’t rely on truth to make their case for their cause. They have to lie. [...] They send the kid out to lie. They filled this kid’s head with lies just as they have some of these soldiers about me.
Now that the right-wing smear campaign against Graeme has been proven to be completely baseless, Limbaugh is desperately trying to revise history. Last night on Hannity & Colmes, Limbaugh claimed he “never attacked” the Frost family:
I never once attacked this family. I attacked the Democrats for exploiting them. I attacked the Democrats for putting lies into the head of a 12-year-old. [...] The Democrats are amazingly brazen in this at using kids, using season citizens. I never attacked this family. I simply reported what their financial circumstances are.
During the segment, Limbaugh also sneeringly mocked Graeme by taking on the voice of a 12-year old child. Watch it:
Limbaugh never apologized for his role in misreporting the family’s financial circumstances. Rush now claims that Graeme’s big “lie” is that he wanted to “make the American people think that they would not get covered because Bush didn’t want to expand the program.” It’s true. The Congressional Budget Office reports more than 700,000 children will lose coverage under Bush’s proposal.
More at Newshounds.
Transcript:
LIMBAUGH: You know, Alan, that’s an interesting question. I never once attacked this family. I attacked the Democrats for exploiting them. I attacked the Democrats for putting lies into the head of a 12-year-old. A 12-year-old they send out before microphones and cameras to sit there and say, I only want health care for the rest of the American children like I got. And George Bush is against it. A 12-year-old can’t write that garbage!
The fact of the matter is, Graeme Frost was covered and got the health care he and his sister, both got the health care they needed under the current circumstances of the program. The Democrats sent those two little kids out there to make the American people think that they would not get covered because Bush didn’t want to expand the program.
The Democrats are amazingly brazen in this at using kids, using season citizens. I never attacked this family. I simply reported what their financial circumstances are. I actually feel sorry for them to be used.
This is another thing. If you would turn on my radio show and listen to me, you would know I never once attacked — I would not attack a 12- year-old kid. I feel sorry for the fact that the kid is having words put in his mouth, he’s sent out before the whole country to lie, when he can’t know any better, because he’s 12-year-old, simply to advance another lie that the Democrats want to put forth, because the S-CHIP program is nothing more than a stealth attempt to get socialized medicine inculcated over as much of America as possible.
You can’t tell me that children are 25 years and younger. You can’t tell me that a family of four making $82,000 grand is poverty-stricken. And that’s what this program would have done. It is obscene.
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Just delete Limbaugh, please?
October 19th, 2007 at 10:40 amWhat a waste of space and airtime.
We should all be proud that Rush is raising over $2 million dollars for our troops.
October 19th, 2007 at 10:43 amCan you blame Rush? The guy lies so much and disseminates so much misinformation, I wouldn't expect him to be able to keep all of his own BS straight in the first place.
October 19th, 2007 at 10:44 amYou have to understand that to Limbaugh, lying, sneering, and mocking aren't "attacking" -- even if the rest of us would consider it so. Rush does so much of this that to him it's like breathing.
Rush is correct that the Frosts are already eligible for SCHIP without the expansion. But that's about all I'll give him. He is still decrying the GOP talking points about 25-year old children (debunked -- that's only an upper age limit for dependents in college), and the "family of four making $82,000" (only eligible in areas where the cost of living is extremely high).
Just keep spinning, Rush. You already have the world's biggest ball of twine.
October 19th, 2007 at 10:48 amYour highlighted quote from Rush :
They send the kid out to lie. They filled this kid’s head with lies
Bush's defence :
I never attacked this family. I simply reported what their financial circumstances are.
They seem to match... where does he call the kid a liar?
October 19th, 2007 at 10:49 amgood place to post this again from the FAST thread:
Our Health ‘System’ Isn’t ‘Conservative’
Froma Harrop
[…]
But even if the counters were gold, I wouldn’t care. America needs a universal health-care plan that puts the rich and poor, young and old, sick and well into one big insurance pool.
[…]
The right does these issues on automatic pilot — and the left knows how to hit back — but the center feels conflicted. Megan McArdle, a blogger for The Atlantic magazine’s Website, worries about forcing families to sell assets to qualify for public health-care benefits. “On the other hand,†she writes, “many people, including me, don’t want to pay for the health care of someone so that they can stay in their Park Avenue mansion.â€
Honey, you already do.
The taxpayers are footing the medical bills of many a Park Avenue swell over 65. There’s little means testing in Medicare, yet Bush pushed a drug benefit on top of the program’s already generous coverage. It will cost many times the price of SCHIP, even were it to cover the likes of Graeme Frost.
So let’s discuss what the panic is really about. Republicans know that once government health coverage seeps up into the middle class, there’s no stopping it.
Note how Bush does this big “compassionate conservative†thing about very much wanting SCHIP for poor people.
Programs for the poor are fine, because you can always cut the living daylights out of them. Politicians who mess with middle class benefits find their heads in the return mail.
October 19th, 2007 at 10:49 am[…]
Really, how did American workers become the last people in any industrialized democracy to be subject to such anxiety about paying for medical care? They already fund the health care of retirees, the poor, the disabled, convicts and government employees, including members of Congress. Their taxes pay for everyone’s health care except their own.
[…]
Right-wingers, give it up! You’re fighting a battle you shouldn’t want to win. A country without universal coverage isn’t conservative. It’s primitive.
http://www.creators.com/ opinion/ froma-harrop/ our-health-system-isn-t-conservative.html
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Just delete Limbaugh, please?
What a waste of space and airtime.
Comment by Nevar — October 19, 2007 @ 10:40 am
I agree! He is irrelevant and boring. Even his minions are, as well, hence the name Dittoheads. (I think they should be called Mushrooms, as he constantly feeds them sh!t and keeps them in the dark about the truth.)
I ams sure all the trolls here can refute me, right?
October 19th, 2007 at 10:49 amShould read "Rush's defence"
October 19th, 2007 at 10:49 amLimbaugh is the mouthpiece of a Republican Party that has NOTHING for America (unless war-death-debt count as something).
October 19th, 2007 at 10:52 amWhat's amazing to me is that there are people who are so clueless that even when Limbaugh, et.al. are caught in a lie, and their attempt to cover it up or revise history is so blatant, they still fall for it.
Has our society been dumbed down so much that this has become status quo?
October 19th, 2007 at 10:52 amphaedrus, he caled the kid a liar, plain and simple. defending that fat, drug-addled, perverted traitor is a waste of time and space.
October 19th, 2007 at 10:54 amWhat lies did the democrats put in their heads? The smear campaign has been proven to be wrong so who is doing the lying?
October 19th, 2007 at 10:54 amWhat a lame-ass m-fcker Oxy Boy is.
October 19th, 2007 at 10:54 amhe's off his meds again.
October 19th, 2007 at 10:56 amhe’s off his meds again.
Comment by joe cantwell — October 19, 2007 @ 10:56 am
Or maybe back on them! He has the same look in his eyes as Dubya, kinda glassy and vacant.
October 19th, 2007 at 10:57 amAnyone still listening to Limbaugh is so stupid and so full of hatred that I don't think they can ever be changed.
October 19th, 2007 at 10:57 amRush probably believes that.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:01 amHe's a weirdo.
So are his listeners.
As if Rush cares what anyone has to say. His listeners will believe anything he tells them. So to them he is telling the truth. The truth doesn't matter.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:04 amMuch like all of the heroes on the fascist side, they love this drug addicted fellow for saying all the nasty things they want to. Maybe Carlos Mencia is right. Whitey can't insult anyone any longer, so you assign the hatred to someone else and live vicariously
much like terrorism no? it doesn't exist unless you can assign the blame to an unknown entity that no one meets, that can die 4 or 5 times during a pretend war, and always be vilified when fux gets word from shooter that they need some propapoopa for the unwashed.
scared little rabbits. sheep, lemmings. Anyone get the picture they paint? And these people have a right to be scared. They only shoot things that can't shoot back, and don't have anything to do with war except profit.
I hope Rush gets to get in the ring with little Mr. Frost so he can show us how manly he is. Graeme, just keep saying "hillary is your president, hillary is your president. In 3 or 4 rounds rush will be jelly and you won't have to do anything but feel sorry for the mound of blubber.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:13 amRemember, rush represents insane people. Your fellow countryman, yes. But only about 10%. when his head implodes, they will feel empty as well, for they will have no one except those strange voices that talk to them, and not on the radio
Lumbaugh is a lying fat sack of dung.
this is news how?
October 19th, 2007 at 11:13 amphaedrus,
"They send the kid out to lie."
-Rush Limbaugh
Thus the kid is doing the lying thus he is a liar. Ergo, Rush called the kid a liar.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:18 amVerified by a freeper, bwah, the ethics ofLimbaugh journalism 101, zero.
What does his pay his cutting edge researchers for? Polar Bears messing around like cats in a litter box?
October 19th, 2007 at 11:22 amRush needs to empty his litter box.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:25 amAnother fantastic job by Alan Colmes of getting out of the way so a right wing extremist can have ten minutes of unimpeded air time.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:25 amAgree with Nevar #1 - WHAT a waste of space this comic is...as are his material providers....
October 19th, 2007 at 11:27 amThey send the kid out to lie.
They seem to match… where does he call the kid a liar?
Comment by phaedrus — October 19, 2007 @ 10:49 am
Sounds to me like he's calling the kid a liar. "They send the kid out to lie." It's pretty clear.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:28 amIt's interesting that Rush (and all Freeper's) defense of deriding SCHIP is that "it is a first step in trying to bring about socialized medicine".
Now, it is quote obvious SCHIP is merely an insurance program and not a private "healthcare system" with its own doctors in government run hospitals. It is also a WILDLY successful program. Yet, they attack it because... what? Because they don't want the rest of our healthcare to turn into a similar wildly successful program???
I can't figure out the Conservatives logic here... assuming there is any, which is being generous.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:28 amTCDon, you're rapidly proving yourself utterly dishonest and completely devoid of any positive contribution to this forum.
In other words, a typical troll.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:30 amI couldn't let this go without comment...
The posting I read said that she was mugged. No speculation was given to by whom or what the motivation was. When crooksandliars covered the story, they were quick to quash any unfounded speculation.
Are you projecting again?
October 19th, 2007 at 11:34 amRush and ilk are for the most part primarily lemmings. They dont bother to research facts. The fact was SCHIP kids were not socialised healthcare, they were treated at private facilities.
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Now, after a bunch of you falsely reported (i.e. LIED) that liberal talk show host Randi Rhodes had her teeth bashed out by a conservative thug, why are to we believe for a second your twisting of Rush’s words? -TCDON
Rhodes has healthcare Don, and I never engaged in any of that rumor milling, I dont recall TP running a thread on Rhodes attack by a conssrvative. Rush words are recorded he was a fool to use a freepers verification to verify his rudimentary information and now that freeper, likely a dittohead, is gonna be thrown under the bus by his beloved drug addled hero. heckuva job.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:34 amI can’t figure out the Conservatives logic here… assuming there is any, which is being generous.
Comment by Mugsy — October 19, 2007 @ 11:28 am
I think SCHIP is only under attack because of the growing desire for universal healthcare. Sort of a way of saying "Why do we need universal healthcare, the people who need it are already covered. In fact, even some rich people are already covered. Why pay for all of the lazy, opportunistic jerks." Of course that's not the case but I believe its the point they are trying to make.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:34 amNow, it is quote obvious SCHIP is merely an insurance program. -Mugsy
Freepers are logicless dittoheads that think SCHIP is some kind of Walter Reed, which they seem to approve of, Ironically.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:38 amI find Rush entertaining but don’t agree with everything he says. - TCDon
EVERY Rush listener says that. But I have yet to see a single Rush fan disagree with him, or take him to task for some vile thing he's done or said. I bet you thought his mockery of Michael J. Fox was entertaining, too, eh?
It's the equivalent of all the righties who post here that claim they are not Republican, but Independent. A pathetic attempt to garner credibility, all it does is emphasise the lying nature of the right.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:43 amLimbaugh, Hannity, ORilley = Goebbels, Ley, Stericher
October 19th, 2007 at 11:43 amFox News = The Ministry of Public Enlightenment
TCDon, A bunch of you guys reported There were WMD's in Iraq. Muchroom clouds and the fear of terrorists from Iraq filled the airwaves. You were wrong. We don't believe you guys any more.
Happy Holidays TCDon. I hope you have a Merry Winter Soltice.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:44 amNow, after a bunch of you falsely reported (i.e. LIED) that liberal talk show host Randi Rhodes had her teeth bashed out by a conservative thug, why are to we believe for a second your twisting of Rush’s words?
Comment by TCDon — October 19, 2007 @ 11:27 am
i don't think you agree with yourself. you're here, aren't you?
October 19th, 2007 at 11:46 am"They send the kid out to lie"
You guys are right, he indirectly did accuse him of lying - I stand corrected, and thank you.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:47 amOh the GAS-BAG-0-WIND LimpBalls tells a LIE? Nah, couldn't be, why he is a conservatard, they NEVER LIE about anything. After all they have FAMILY VALUES.
Can these Subhumans suck any worse?
Buck Fush
October 19th, 2007 at 11:47 amI find Rush entertaining but don’t agree with everything he says. - TCDon
I would find him much more entertaining if he said what he means and means what he says.
He said drug addicts should be deported, repeatedly. Not every entertaining. If he deported himself, NOW THAT, that would be entertaining.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:48 amI heard Rhodes got mugged. That was it. Stop putting words in our mouths, Strawman.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:52 amYou guys are right, he indirectly did accuse him of lying - I stand corrected, and thank you.
Comment by phaedrus — October 19, 2007 @ 11:47 am
Huh?
I - Am - Stunned.
Props to you, phaedrus.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:56 amLefty-
the report is the Rhodes was NOT mugged, it was an attack, she was hit from behind and did not see the attacker. That is why there is speculation that it was a ReighWing attemp to silence her.
Buck Fush
October 19th, 2007 at 11:56 amOkay, let's put this into some sort of perspective. I like Al Franken. I enjoy his books. But if he blatantly attacks a family who benefited from a program to help children (even if I didn't support the program), I would demand an apology (not a pseudo rambling half assed one) by threatening to boycott his products.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:58 amRight wingers, I challenge you to do the same!
Just because you disagree with the program, even though it benefits children of the lower income, there is absolutely no need to attack a family that utilized said program.
Step up to the plate, all ye ditto heads. Demand a true apology, or boycott his product (don't listen)!
Enough is Enough!
You can't support a media "entertainer" that calls our brave men and women "phony", who attacks a family who had a very sick child. I mean, c'mon, this BFI (Big Fat Idiot) has a track record of drug abuse and attaining Oxycontin illegally, racism (ESPN fiasco), as well as Viagra trips to an island known for it's underage prostitution.
How the hell can you still support this BFI???
You know, the FDA put it out this morning that Viagra causes deafness.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21368572/
Just sayin'.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:59 amHow the hell can you still support this BFI???
Comment by DRxJ — October 19, 2007 @ 11:58 am
Rush supporters wouldn't have read past your first sentence. If the perspective isn't theirs, they really don't care.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:01 pmAnother fantastic job by Alan Colmes of getting out of the way so a right wing extremist can have ten minutes of unimpeded air time.
Comment by OxyCon
Tell me about it.
This is Fox News' idea of providing the left a counter arguement to all the right-wing crap that they peddle. What a joke.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:05 pmLimbaugh needs to stop with the drugs.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:05 pmI’m sure Rush wouldn’t mind using another letter to raise some more funds for good causes.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 19, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
rush's good cause is rush. drugs, little boys and a big house in florida to live in. you call that supporting the troops?
October 19th, 2007 at 12:11 pmComment by Beefeater
How old are you? And how old is Frost? I'm guessing you've got more than a few years on the kid, but he's far more mature.
It's time the rightwing grew up.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:12 pmI’m sure Rush wouldn’t mind using another letter to raise some more funds for good causes.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 19, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
Or he could simply donate the money without demanding all the attention.
And you can drop the "out of context" bullsh!t. No one but dittoheads buys it.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:13 pmPublic perception is overwhelmingly in favor of extending S-CHIP coverage to more families. That's why Bush had to veto the bill, and why more Repubs than usual jumped party lines to oppose the veto. As usual in Dittoheadland, saying something is so doesn't make it so.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:18 pmI’m sure Rush wouldn’t mind using another letter to raise some more funds for good causes.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 19, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
Sounds like he's trying to pay his way out guilt.
Sending a bunch of money to the troops so they won't hate him for his comments. Remember, 70% of troops in the last poll said they think we should leave Iraq by 08. That's a lot troops to hate him for calling them phony. And yes, you can drop the out of context crap, everyone here has heard it in context at this point, after weeks of debating it.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:20 pmO. BIgmouth, can you point out some of the "lies" that Demcorats supposedly told Graeme Frost that made him such a victim? I mean, when you're done trying to bring in all sorts of irrelevant distractions, that is.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:21 pmAnd what have YOU done for the troops lately?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 19, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
For my son that just got back from Iraq last month or troops in general.
Would you count visiting the wounded at the local VA? Or my donations to help the the families of the deployed?
What have YOU done O'Bigfoot-in-mouth?
October 19th, 2007 at 12:22 pmIn all fairness to Beefeater, he's probably just a victim in all this. The trollmasters must have told him what to type and sent him out here to babble.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:23 pmWe can do a lot better than this "gotcha" stuff. You don't even need to parse the original quote to see that the two statements are consistent with each other. Rush makes inconsistent and hypocritical comments a lot, but this isn't one of them.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:23 pmNowhere did Rush mention that the family's finances had been misrepresented. And nowhere does Rush wish the brother and sister, who had to relearn speech they were so badly brain damaged, a speedy recovery. That's the kind of person we are dealing with here.
It should be noted, with a heaping of Schadenfreude, that the main point of Rush's interview was to distance himself from Malkin. You know it's tough being a conservobot, when Rush has to go on Hannity to get distance from you. So much for lockstepping, Michelle. The boys are more than happy to throw your bony butt under the bus.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:24 pmNow, after a bunch of you falsely reported (i.e. LIED) that liberal talk show host Randi Rhodes had her teeth bashed out by a conservative thug, why are to we believe for a second your twisting of Rush’s words?
Comment by TCDon
No, we did not report that Randi Rhodes had her teeth bashed out, that came from someone on Air America who has admitted he got the information wrong and jumped to conclusions. He also apologized for jumping to conclusions. What a novel thing. I don't ever remember someone from the right apologizing for getting something wrong.
All we did was to speculate, if the facts were true, that perhaps it was someone trying to silence Randi. That is in no way a lie.
I have a question for you. Do you think that Bush lies?
October 19th, 2007 at 12:25 pmPlease note that Rush's preposterous ebay auction of Harry Reid's letter is littered with many ebay users who have bid on NOTHING ELSE in the last 30 days, which tends to suggest that the huge sum attached to the "prize" is the result of gaming the system, since there's no guarantee after winning an auction at ebay that the winner will actually pay. I've had people walk out on paying after they got their merchandise. It would be easy to conspire with bidders to falsely inflate the value of an object so that the "result" could be rehearsed and controlled, like everything else Rush touches.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:28 pmRush has seen the handwriting on the wall and that is that 80% of people in this country think that SCHIP should be expanded and 75% think it is OK for their taxes to go up to pay for it. Some of his dittoheads must be in those percentages. I expect that he is afraid he will lose listeners because of his rude treatment of this family, so now he is trying to re-write history so it sounds like he never attacked the Frosts.
Sorry Rush, it won't work. People are not that stupid.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:29 pmI don’t ever remember someone from the right apologizing for getting something wrong.
Comment by bilbobaggins — October 19, 2007 @ 12:25 pm
bilbo, I recall maybe a year ago, Brit Hume actually apologized for saying that Clinton's criticism of Bush 43 was unprecedented. Hume acknowledged that Bush 41 had criticized Clinton's policies "several times".
But that's the only one I can remember.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:29 pmSorry Rush, it won’t work. People are not that stupid.
Comment by bilbobaggins — October 19, 2007 @ 12:29 pm
You'll have to forgive Rush for thinking people ARE that stupid. Consider the people who populate his world and you'll understand.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:30 pmTo repeat my reversing your question back to you at #56...
What have YOU done O’Bigfoot-in-mouth?
Since you asked it of us, you should answer yourself and quit avoiding.
Again what have YOU done for our troops other than buy a made in China magnetic "Support the Troops" Sticker?
October 19th, 2007 at 12:31 pmI don’t ever remember someone from the right apologizing for getting something wrong.
Comment by bilbobaggins — October 19, 2007 @ 12:25 pm
Don't they usually apologize at the press conferences before they get hauled off to jail?
October 19th, 2007 at 12:31 pmSorry Rush, it won’t work. People are not that stupid.
Comment by bilbobaggins — October 19, 2007 @ 12:29 pm
Sadly, some people are.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:31 pmGraeme Frost is the same kind of victim. He only knows what he has been told by adults, and therefore is a tool of the adults who are (unsuccessfuly) using him to sway public perception on SCHIP.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Gee, OBigFootInMouth, that "unsuccessful" campaign ended up with public perception at 80% favoring expansion of SCHIP and 75% agreeing that more taxes would be OK to pay for it. With that kind of an "unsuccessful" campaign, who would need a successful campaign.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:32 pmYou attacked the boy during this taped interview, by calling him a liar, you FAT BAST*RD. The sad part is there are stupid people on the right to listen to this tape and say he did nothing wrong. Well what about talking in a child's voice to say what he did. Is there no shame for Republicans? Are they willing to stick to the party line regardless of the truth? What kind of a party has the Republican party become, that they would defend, this idiot (Limpbaugh) and people like Coultergiest, to the point of denying reality?
Come on Republican voter are you that brainwashed? As they say, "Can any of you think for yourself"? You guys accuse liberals of this kind of stuff all the time. For once, I'd like to see one Republican admit attacking a kid is wrong. Think about it, you want no abortions, so when the kid is born with medical problems, you don't want to help. That's really compassionate isn't it? I'll be willing to bet that not too many Republicans will end up in heaven based on their mean spirited thinking.
How can any decent human being not care about sick children and the poor who need help regardless of how they got in that circumstance? Most of them (Republicans) claims to be religious, but I don't recall Jesus teaching us to attack sick children, or not care for and help the sick. I dare any Republican to point out any verse or chapter in the Bible that tell us to let the poor or sick fend for themselves.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:33 pmDon’t they usually apologize at the press conferences before they get hauled off to jail?
Comment by erock — October 19, 2007 @ 12:31 pm
In a fashion, I guess. They usually apologize "if they offended anyone" (implying that the fault lies with those who ae offended) or else their tearful apologies make plain that they're sorry they got caught.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:33 pmYet, they attack it because… what? Because they don’t want the rest of our healthcare to turn into a similar wildly successful program???
I can’t figure out the Conservatives logic here… assuming there is any, which is being generous.
Comment by Mugsy
Their logic is that they can't have any system that cuts the Health Care Insurance companies out of the equation and that is what programs like their health care program and SCHIP does. And that's also part of why they are so financially successful. They have taken the profit out of the acquisition of insurance for health care. And that's all the more money for the actual delivery of health care.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:36 pmTurn the radio off and make Limbaugh insignificant.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:36 pmWhat kind of Fattassery is this???
October 19th, 2007 at 12:37 pmAnd what have YOU done for the troops lately?
Comment by O. Bigfoot
I have supported all of the laws the Democrats are trying to pass to protect our troops, to give them proper equipment, to allow them adequate rest time and to give them proper training. And I support any bill that will bring them home from the hellhole Bush has put them in.
What have YOU done for the troops lately?
October 19th, 2007 at 12:42 pmhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ Original-Harry-Reid-Rush-Limbaugh-Smear-Letter_W0QQitemZ260170172469QQcategoryZ4105QQcmdZViewItem
Comment by michael — October 19, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
Oh... NOW he wants to help children... a little late coming I think.
October 19th, 2007 at 1:32 pmI think rush is trying for Fox's new reality show: " America's Biggest Asshat"
October 19th, 2007 at 1:34 pmThank you democrats!
Comment by michael ann coulter— October 19, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
Really? How so?
October 19th, 2007 at 1:34 pmLook at idiot michael. He thinks people would click on one of his links. Who's the dope michael?
October 19th, 2007 at 1:34 pmMichael - that simply proves that idiots come in all financial categories. Nice try, though.
October 19th, 2007 at 1:35 pmOr maybe it proves that old saw that says "there's a sucker born every minute"...
October 19th, 2007 at 1:37 pmOr, more simply, *Republicans* are stupid.
Yeah. That's it.
October 19th, 2007 at 1:38 pmhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ Original-Harry-Reid-Rush-Limbaugh-Smear-Letter_W0QQitemZ260170172469QQcategoryZ4105QQcmdZViewItem
Comment by michael — October 19, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
Really this is just a stunt to try and clear his name. Why hasn't he put anything else up on Ebay in the past to raise money for children? I'm sure he has plenty of things he could have been auctioning before now.
From the Ebay auction description:
"ABOUT RUSH LIMBAUGH AND HIS RADIO SHOW:
The Rush Limbaugh Show is the most listened to radio talk show in America, broadcast on about 600 radio stations nationwide. It is hosted by America's Anchorman, Rush Limbaugh, also known as: America's Truth Detector; the Doctor of Democracy; the Most Dangerous Man in America; the All-Knowing, All-Sensing, All-Everything Maha Rushie; defender of motherhood, protector of fatherhood and an all-around good guy.
For more information, visit http://www.rushlimbaugh.com
LOL, couldn't resist pimping his show in the Ebay auction description.
October 19th, 2007 at 1:39 pmNone of you posters even listen to Rush, so your opinions are essentially worthless. I heard all of the Rush's discussions regarding the Dems using the frost family, and he never attacked the family. He attacked the moron liberal democrats who used this family to further their political agenda. Now the truth is out, that the Frost kids were already coverer by the existing health program. So, once again the liberals were caught using children and lying. So typical. Anyway Rush is a class act. He just matched with his own money the 2.1 million dollar ebay auction price on the Harry Reid smear letter; that's over 5 million to be donated to military charities. Fantastic masterstroke Rush! Of course Reid is busily trying to take credit as if it was a joint venture between Reid and Rush. So hilarious, so pathetic. Rush OWNED Reid.
October 19th, 2007 at 1:41 pmGo to the link and read how Reid and 40 other stupid democrats helped raise $2.1 million for the children of soldiers they like to bash!
Comment by michael
Wasn't this about Rush bashing soldiers?
October 19th, 2007 at 1:41 pmmichael, if you think we wouldn't want money to go to kids of the troop you are even dumber than I thought you were. But then again you believe we bash the troops so obviously you don't understand one thing you read. But then again you are OFF TOPIC, tool.
October 19th, 2007 at 1:43 pm$2.1 million! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Comment by michael
Yeah, and by vetoing SCHIP Bush cut off several BILLION dollars in aid for children.
October 19th, 2007 at 1:46 pmread how Reid and 40 other stupid democrats helped raise $2.1 million for the children of soldiers they like to bash!
Comment by michael ann coulter — October 19, 2007 @ 1:36pm
Really? How's that pertain to the topic of this thread?
October 19th, 2007 at 1:47 pmNo, it was about Rush bashing the democratic poster boy Jesse Macbeth!
Comment by michael
Sigh.... that's only one soldier, he said soldiers --plural-- as you well know.
October 19th, 2007 at 1:48 pmfrom the NYT thread... waiting for an answer... i'll try it here...
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October 19th, 2007 at 1:49 pmi just wonder, bigfoot - did you kick your college attending children off
your insurance coverage when they turned 18? or 16? when?
?
Comment by katy — October 19, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
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Yeah, and by vetoing SCHIP Bush cut off several BILLION dollars in aid for children.
Comment by DigDug — October 19, 2007 @ 1:46 pm
Yes, including children of wounded soldiers whose family lose their jobs because they have to provide care to those soldiers. These people are usually not poor enough for medicaid and so use SChip for insurance. Supporting the troops my ass. Have I told you lately where you can stick your magnetic ribbon, MICHAEL?
October 19th, 2007 at 1:50 pm"Now the truth is out, that the Frost kids were already coverer by the existing health program. So, once again the liberals were caught using children and lying. "
This was news to you? The kids address basically said "Hey this program helped me. It'd be great if it could help more kids too"
Where was the "lie"?
October 19th, 2007 at 1:50 pmWhile rush's minions are busily spreading their bile, real Americans are rejecting hate radio and coming home to make America a true bastion of liberty, justice and liberal thought.
October 19th, 2007 at 1:50 pm“Wasn’t this about Rush bashing soldiers?
Comment by DigDugâ€
No, it was about Rush bashing the democratic poster boy Jesse Macbeth!
Comment by michael — October 19, 2007 @ 1:45 pm
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Generally to be a "poster boy", people actually had to have heard of you. Macbeth until very recently was unknown save conservative blogs.
plus to paraphrase Rush "if you talk to REAL soldiers, they are PROUD to serve"...
October 19th, 2007 at 1:52 pm2.1 million dollar ebay auction price on the Harry Reid smear letter; that’s over 5 million to be donated to military charities. Fantastic masterstroke Rush! Of course Reid is busily trying to take credit as if it was a joint venture between Reid and Rush. So hilarious, so pathetic. Rush OWNED Reid.
Comment by ClintonWasImpeachedAndDisbarred
Ok, first off: 2.1 + 2.1 does not equal 5
Secondly, do you have a link for the claim that Reid is trying to take credit for this money raised?
October 19th, 2007 at 1:53 pmmichael: 30 year old, computer programer from Richmond, VA. Married, no kids, no life experiences.
October 19th, 2007 at 1:53 pmYou’re correct! He was also referring to that other democratic poster boy Scott Beauchamp.
Comment by michael ann coulter — October 19, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
C'mon michael, you can do better than that!
October 19th, 2007 at 1:54 pmFor once in your pathetic little life, think for yourself! Don't let others think for you.
And stay on topic.
Michael: Who's your republican poster boy: Mark Foley? Ted Haggard? Larry "Wide Stance" Craig?
October 19th, 2007 at 1:55 pmWhy aren’t the mommies and daddies of this country providing aid for their children?
Comment by michael
Because some of them CAN't. That's the whole point.
October 19th, 2007 at 1:55 pmLOL, couldn’t resist pimping his show in the Ebay auction description.
Comment by DigDug — October 19, 2007 @ 1:39 pm
curious - why did YOU do it HERE???
October 19th, 2007 at 1:57 pmtry to condense crap like that next time, ok? please...
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108: Was I wrong about the city?
October 19th, 2007 at 2:00 pmDigDug,
If you actually listened to the Limbaugh show, you'd know that other listeners and Rush's friends are also donating big money now. Its basically turned into a chairty fund raiser. I mispoke though, its over 4million dollars going to military families, its fantastic!! What a way to make lemonaid from lemons. Rush is brilliant in how he handles the left.
As for Reid trying to take credit for this, you can listen to dingy harry yourself. Its PATHETIC: http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=6938
October 19th, 2007 at 2:01 pmNone of you posters even listen to Rush, so your opinions are essentially worthless.
Comment by ClintonWasImpeachedAndDisbarred — October 19, 2007 @ 1:41 pm
Everything after this statement is irrelevant. Once someone writes something as telling as this, you know who and what you're dealing with.
The trolls really seem to be getting desperate.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:01 pmthe michael/rory troll is not a day over 24...
but the biggest wonder of all:
WHY IS IT GETTING ANY ATTENTION HERE???
huh?
October 19th, 2007 at 2:02 pm111: Why not add Attila the Hun or the Burmese generals, people with the same viewpoints?
October 19th, 2007 at 2:02 pmThen why did they have kids?
Comment by michael
Why they had kids shouldn't enter into the discussion really.
There are many reasons why someone might have kids and then fall on hard times financially.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:02 pmWhy aren’t the mommies and daddies of this country providing aid for their children?
Comment by michael — October 19, 2007 @ 1:49 pm
Why does michael hate and smear American parents?
October 19th, 2007 at 2:03 pmmichael: The why did they have kids argument, shows off your true colors.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:04 pmThe holier than thou attitude of your "ilk", says it all.
oh, and by the way:
CLINTON WAS ACQUITTED.
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October 19th, 2007 at 2:04 pmBtw, speaking of charity, Rush uses his show to hosts an anual leukemia fundraiser that raises a lot of cash. He often matches and generously donates hundreds of thousands of his money to the charity. You guys just really don't know Rush, you only know what your leftist masters have told you.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:04 pm118: The new America? Really, since more and more places are shedding the shackles of repressive right wing thought, it could be almost anywhere.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:07 pmMan, can michael bring teh stupid or what?
This is not the time for Whack-A-Trollâ„¢ IMO. Time to ignore the brain-dead talking mannequins.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:09 pmHe often matches and generously donates hundreds of thousands of his money to the charity. You guys just really don’t know Rush, you only know what your leftist masters have told you.
Comment by ClintonGotABlowJobandIDidn't — October 19, 2007 @ 2:04 pm
.....and this is relevant to the topic, how?
October 19th, 2007 at 2:09 pmBecause of their irresponsibilities and laziness. Is that enough?
Comment by michael — October 19, 2007 @ 2:06 pm
So, working parents are now considering "lazy" and "irresponsible" by the reich-wing? Priceless. You scum show your true colors day-by-day.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:10 pm122: Good for rush that he does good deeds. But he still spews hate, vitriol and bluster. If a child rapist gives to charity, that makes him a good guy?
October 19th, 2007 at 2:10 pmHe often matches and generously donates hundreds of thousands of his money to the charity.
Comment by obssessedwithClintonsBlowJob — October 19, 2007 @ 2:04 pm
Giving to "charity" doesn't make up for his anti-Americanism.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:12 pmmichael: Logic this. Why do all members of congress, including all that voted against expanding SCHIP get free, taxpayer, socialized, government health care and yet not a peep out of the righties?
October 19th, 2007 at 2:14 pmWhat's good for our representatives, should be good for all Americans.
I live in what is considered the bastion of liberalism!
Comment by michael — October 19, 2007 @ 2:02 pm
Yes, it's called America. Reich-wingers are a minority and will be a permanent minority thanks to anti-American scum like you, Rush, Mann Coulter and herr dubyah.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:14 pmmichael: Are you in favor of socialized medicine for congress? If so, why not for lower middle class Americans?
October 19th, 2007 at 2:15 pmIf they have to rely on taxpayers to provide health care for kids they decided to have, YES!
Comment by michael — October 19, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
Thanks for proving your utter contempt, disgust, and hate for the working poor. You reich-wingers are the biggest lowlifes on the planet.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:15 pmIf they have to rely on taxpayers to provide health care for kids they decided to have, YES!
Comment by michael — October 19, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
You are a typical anti-American reich-wing elitist who hates the poor. Thanks for proving that point.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:16 pm136: michael, look at your comment 101. You don't listen rush? Really?
October 19th, 2007 at 2:20 pmI bet you also don't have a wide stance.
I really hope you liberals are stupid enough to believe this. After 2 years of Congress being controlled by liberals and nothing getting done, do you really think that all the people who voted for Bush in the last election are going to vote for a democrat? I hope you believe this.
I really hope you reich-wingers are stupid enough to believe that you not the most hated group "people" on the planet . After 6 years of Congress and the White House being controlled by reich-wingers and nothing getting done except failure, murder, war, and more failure, do you really think that all the people who voted for adolf dubyah in the last election are going to vote for a reich-winger again? I hope you believe this.
Comment by michael — October 19, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
October 19th, 2007 at 2:20 pmI really hope you liberals are stupid enough to believe this. After 2 years of Congress being controlled by liberals and nothing getting done, do you really think that all the people who voted for Bush in the last election are going to vote for a democrat? I hope you believe this.
Comment by michael — October 19, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
I really hope you reich-wingers are stupid enough to believe that you not the most hated group “people†on the planet . After 6 years of Congress and the White House being controlled by reich-wingers and nothing getting done except failure, murder, war, and more failure, do you really think that all the people who voted for adolf dubyah in the last election are going to vote for a reich-winger again? I hope you believe this.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:21 pmTypical liberal comeback when they are unable to discuss things logically.
Comment by michael
We are discussing things logically. You are not. This discussion about SCHIP has gone around in ever decreasing circles.
You say why dont' parents take care of their own kids, and I point out that some can't.
Then you say, why do they have kids then, without ever addressing the orignal point that some parents out there are not in a financial position to properly take care of them. In your world it seems the kids should suffer because the parents made bad decision (or just fell on hards times that wasn't actually in some way their fault).
Then you leap to this whole thing about parents being lazy, after I already pointed out that some people fell into financial trouble after after haveing kids(trouble that may not be realated to laziness). You never address this point either.
Every time you start to lose an arguement you try to change the subject. So, if you truly do argue with logic, then I challenge you to address these two points that I just brought up --without changing the subject.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:21 pm140: Ah, michael, the Democrats regained control of Congress in January, 2007 or about 9 months. I guess math isn't your strong suit.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:21 pmQ: How many reich-wingers can you fit in a closet?
October 19th, 2007 at 2:21 pmA: All of them.
Oh? On the contrary, my disgust is for the left wing in this country who are trying to force a socialist agenda upon us.
Comment by michael — October 19, 2007 @ 2:21 pm
You just stated your contempt for the working poor. You lost....get use to it as anti-American reich-winger.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:22 pmLOL I see, so now some of you assert that raising millions for the military families is just a sham and pales in comparison to Rush's anti-Americanism. Uh huh.. Rush is an outspoken patriot and his show was one of the most requested shows by our troops to be carried on armed forces radio. You *really* should listen to Rush sometimes so that you'll have an informed opinion. He's the furthest thing from anti-American that I can think of. Honestly, you're sounding beaten, tired and silly.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:24 pmWith regards to the frost family, its just another lib-media distortion. Rush clearly bad-mouthed the liberal democrats that used the family to push their agenda and increase their power. Hello! The frost kids were already covered by the program. Sending a 12 year old out to say that Bush is a bad guy is just dumb. Makes liberals look like manipulators. The facts speak for themselves. The frost family makes enough money to buy their own insurance, and anyway their children were already covered by the existing program. Clearly the frost kids were used and you should be condemning the democrats for lying again.
Oh? On the contrary, my disgust is for the left wing in this country who are trying to force a socialist agenda upon us.
Comment by michael — October 19, 2007 @ 2:21 pm
No is forcing anything on you. You reich-wingers are such weak and pathetically scared wimps. You can always leave me country since you hate it and its people so much. You are a minority and will always be. Get used to it.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:24 pmBeeffarter: Can't wait until 2009, when the newly elected Senator from Minnesota, Al Franken takes his seat.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:24 pmI'll be looking forward to watching your head explode.
Rush is an outspoken patriot and his show was one of the most requested shows by our troops to be carried on armed forces radio.
Prove it
October 19th, 2007 at 2:24 pmIf they have to rely on taxpayers to provide health care for kids they decided to have, YES!
Comment by michael — October 19, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
michael, you're side is against abortion. And they are against birth control. Then when these parents have the babies you are angry at them for not being able to afford them. The average family of 4 has to pay around $10,000 annually for health insurance, not counting copays and deductibles. How many people couples can afford that? And, why don't you have children?
October 19th, 2007 at 2:25 pmWith regards to the frost family, its just another lib-media distortion. Rush clearly bad-mouthed the liberal democrats that used the family to push their agenda and increase their power.
Don't let facts and the truth stand in the away of your reich-winger hissy fit.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:25 pm155: Shayne, do you really want michael to progenerate?
October 19th, 2007 at 2:29 pmLintball ignores the fact that everything on the air is preserved and can be retrieved for replay. He can deny he called the boy a liar, but his words are out there in the public domain. What he counts on is that the MSM will not mention his lying, his listeners will not remember, nor would they care if they do recall his actual words; and the only ones who are informed are those of us here and other readers of liberal blogs and websites.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:29 pmI am disgusted beyond description by the self-righteous, the self-centered, and the hypocrites of the Republiscum party, their supporters, their cheerleaders, and their spokesmen.
michael: Why don't you complain about the free health care the millionaires in the House and Senate are getting through YOUR taxes. Isn't this a form of socialized medicine? Why no outrage? Or do you save that for the working poor.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:31 pmYes some folks fall on hard times but their kids are still their responsibilities, not mine! I can’t make it any clearer than that. I chose not to have kids so I don’t want to care for someone else’s!
Comment by michael — October 19, 2007 @ 2:27 pm
Sure michael, and we choose not to be at war but we are part of a society and we don't get to make decisions on every single issue. If you chose not to have children I hope you're following the abstinence only program espoused by your party.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:31 pmShayne, do you really want michael to progenerate?
Comment by helenahandbasket — October 19, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
Absolutely not, I just want to make sure he practices the "abstinence only" ideal.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:32 pmLunchtime! Lobster and bubbly!
Comment by michael — October 19, 2007 @ 2:28 pm
Sure, more like bologna and Yoohoo, loser.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:33 pmCorrect! So, don’t have them! It’s pretty simple?
Comment by michael — October 19, 2007 @ 2:32 pm
How michael? Wish them away?
October 19th, 2007 at 2:34 pmI chose not to have kids so I don’t want to care for someone else’s!
Comment by michael ann coulter — October 19, 2007 @ 2:27 pm
Here, let me finish your sentence for you,
But I feel more than obligated to take care of the fine men and women of the House and Senate, with my own taxes. Aren't I a neato (c)hristian?
October 19th, 2007 at 2:34 pm163: michael, are you a eunuch? You seem to be against sex. Either that or you flunked sex education.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:35 pm-Stupid, idiotic, Fascist Brownshirt Lockstep Lemming talking point drivel from a subhuman neanderthal lowlife scum sucking repuke-
Comment by michael
Really can you guys not see that this idiot need not be replied to? He is a PIG.
Buck Fush
October 19th, 2007 at 2:35 pmThat's right michael, you don't make babies when you only have sex with your tube socks. Never mind.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:35 pm-Stupid, idiotic, Fascist Brownshirt Lockstep Lemming talking point drivel from a subhuman neanderthal lowlife scum sucking repuke-
Comment by michael
Really can you guys not see that this idiot need not be replied to? He is a PIG.
Buck Fush
Comment by Buckie Boy — October 19, 2007 @ 2:35 pm
You're absolutely right Buckie, but I just love a good game of a whack-a-troll.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:39 pmDr. Matt,
October 19th, 2007 at 2:41 pmIt appears that Rush gets your panties in a bunch. Not sure why you're so upset. Take it easy. Rush won this one, that's all. He's been taking it to liberals for 20 years now and had the top rated radio show. Do you really think your bitter comments make a difference? Do they even make you feel any less bitter. Honestly, just be happy that the military families benefited from Dingy Harry and mediamatters spear campaign, thanks to Rush genius.
Meanwhile, michael, rush just announced that he is retiring, having seen the light. He will now get his law degree so he can work as a poverty attorney for the ACLU.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:42 pmBtw, since your dem controlled congress can't seem to muster up a veto override, it would appear that essentially the president was correct and that the expensive government expansion of a redundant insurance program was a bad idea that was rightly rejected. Government is not supposed to be your daddy, mkay?
October 19th, 2007 at 2:44 pmIt appears that Rush gets your panties in a bunch. Not sure why you’re so upset. Take it easy. Rush won this one, that’s all. He’s been taking it to liberals for 20 years now and had the top rated radio show.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:45 pmComment by ClintonGotABlowJobAndINeverWill— October 19, 2007 @ 2:41 pm
Really? How does that pertain to the topic of this thread? Unless of course, you're condoning the ability to call a child a liar as long as you have plenty of money to "give" to charity.
173: "spear campaign". Hey buddy, you better lay off the Oxycotin.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:45 pm"Rush genius". Are you another punctuation-challenged rightie?
175: You need two thirds for a veto override, idiot. Control is a simple majority. But you know that don't you? You just like to spread the misinformation, your robot rush commander gives you.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:48 pm179: I thought it was called "low sperm count".
October 19th, 2007 at 2:49 pmBtw, since your dem controlled congress can’t seem to muster up a veto override, it would appear that essentially the president was correct
Comment by ClintonGotABlowJobAndI'mStillJealous — October 19, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
that 2/3rd majority to override a veto still got you confused?
October 19th, 2007 at 2:50 pmI understand. Hell, if you're still jealous of Clinton's little adventures, I sure as hell wouldn't expect you to understand government and math.
Let me make this simple. Yes some folks fall on hard times but their kids are still their responsibilities, not mine!
Comment by michael
That's cold.
So, basicly you acknowledge that kids will suffer and die without this program, but you're OK with that because it's not your responsibilty.
Well, I believe that it is the responsibility of all men to look after those less fortunate than themselves.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:51 pmmichael: Your name links to mann coulter's website. Are you a perfected rightie?
October 19th, 2007 at 2:51 pmDRxJ, the democrats simply made a tactical blunder here, one of many recent blunders (general betray-us, turkey genocide, smearing rush, etc). The dems clearly used a family to push their silly government expansion. The 12 year old kid was sent out by liberal handlers to go bad mouth bush and it backfired because Malkin and Rush exposed that the family made a lot of money and the kids were already covered by the *existing* program. They proved that we don't need an expansion, it was just shocking how bad the dems stategized this move. I know that you didn't actually hear rush talk about this topic, so really I'm not sure why you have such strong, yet uninformed opinions. Talk radio requires a week or so to put things into context, as topics resurface and are built upon over time. The audienced remembers the context. Libs like you don't seem to be conserned with what was actually said about the frost episode. Truthfully, I just think you guys are steaming mad that Rush and other radio hosts make your side look so incredibly foolish.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:53 pm“Time to ignore the brain-dead talking mannequins.
Comment by ralph the wonder llamaâ€
Typical liberal comeback when they are unable to discuss things logically.
Comment by michael — October 19, 2007 @ 2:10 pm
Interesting how michael ignored and edited out my preceding statement in this post: "Man, can michael bring teh stupid or what?" and filled the vaccuum he created with his own supplied reason.
Typical CON tactic. Yet another reason not to feed the trolls.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:54 pm185: Which explains why 80 per cent of the country supports the congressional expansion of SCHIP, along with such conservative stalwarts as g.o.p. Senators Hatch and Grassley.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:58 pmIt may also explain why dubya's getting 24 per cent support and the generic congressional ballot for 2008 favors the Democratic party by 12 points.
OK, michael has convinced me
I refuse to pay taxes for anything that I am not personally enjoying the benefits of at that time. And next time I see an orphan, I'm going to punch him in the face for being such a worthless moocher whose parents made the irresponsible decision to die.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:58 pm185: Try spell check. "conserned"? "audienced"?
October 19th, 2007 at 3:02 pmAnd your point? Wrong again, Poindexter. rush is wrong and the tapes show it. Maybe you should spend more time at MediaMatters? It'll open your eyes to your twisted view of America.
I figured out which party had my best interests in mind...
Comment by michael
So, basicly you're a cold harded pri@k.
I understand now.
And, BTW you haven't replied to my last comment. Have I summed you up correctly?
October 19th, 2007 at 3:02 pm“being such a worthless moocher whose parents made the irresponsible decision to die.
Comment by erockâ€
Ah the liberal crockodile tears are beginning to flow!
Comment by michael
He's got a point. And you are avoiding addressing it directly.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:03 pmAh the liberal crockodile tears are beginning to flow!
Comment by michael — October 19, 2007 @ 3:01 pm
Yeah, screw them. You know who else I hate...my grandparents for using up all my social security by living longer than expected. I mean come on Grandpa, I know you've been crippled since WWII but you've had it too easy for too long.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:04 pmEgad. This place reeks of troll dung.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:05 pm“And, BTW you haven’t replied to my last comment. Have I summed you up correctly?
Comment by DigDugâ€
Point me to the post #? I’ll answer.
#182
Am I a cold hearted P? No, I’m just responsible and I guess I expect that from everyone else.
Comment by michael
Even the children who are the ones that suffer, and who had no part in the bad decision?
October 19th, 2007 at 3:07 pmmichael: So you're also against the minimum wage. Do you also want to bring back child labor? How about no food inspections? Why pay taxes for roads?
October 19th, 2007 at 3:08 pm193: Bad statistic and you know it.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:09 pmYour Social Security? How much have you contributed?
Comment by michael — October 19, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
Too much already!!! Same goes for my tax dollars that go to education. I say let the market forces sort it out. Kids will naturally teach themselves everything they need to know if they want to get a good job.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:09 pmMedia Matters? The bastion of free speech! I have been banned from there because I always asked for explainations of their rhetoric. Instead of trying to persuade me to their viewpoint, they banned me.
Comment by michael — October 19, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
Then I invite you to join me and my new-found-friends over at redstate. You'll be free to discuss every side of every issue ranging from how great Bush is to how good Bush is. I already learned a new term there: PIAPS...I'll let you guess what it means.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:13 pm204: Bullcrap. You can't get banned from the site, only the comment section.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:14 pmBy the way, michael, no rhetoric, only facts. Everything is backed up. Show me one error that David Brock has made (other than once having been a rightie).
helenahandbasket, the tone of your comments reflect your hysterical, yet uninformed opinions. I don't believe that you even *know* what Rush said, who he said it about and when he said it.. you just know that you have to bad mouth rush and drink your kool aid. Bottom line, the frost family was shown to have the money and means to remodel their house, put their kids into private school and own multiple properties and run a business.. therefore they are really just abusing the tax payers by having us pay for their health insurance. If you personally want to pay for them, go ahead and open your own wallet, but they can clearly afford it by themselves. Hands off my money liberals.. and learn some personal responsibility for crying out loud. Be grown ups! Go without luxuries like owning multiple properties, having cell phones, getting your nails done, having expanded cable channels, dining out, etc and FIRST pay for your family's basic health insurance needs. Honestly, the irresponsible nature of the progressive left is astounding. This is not a socialist country so don't expect me to pay for your needs.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:15 pm207: Your taxes paid for Sen. McConnell's triple by-pass surgery in 2003 and he's a millionaire. Now that's disgusting.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:21 pmKeep drinking the rush-aide, since your entire post is rife with misstatements, inaccuracies and lies.
There are plenty of charities out there that do that. Just don’t force those of us who aren’t feeling quite as guilty as you bleeding hearts to be part of your socialist world!
Comment by michael — October 19, 2007 @ 3:15 pm
Hear hear!! Let them beg for their alms!!!
October 19th, 2007 at 3:22 pmI'm still waiting for his apology to Michael J Fox (Parkinson's Patients).
Rush said that he would apologize.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:22 pm207: So, no to Socialism, but yes to Corporate Oligarchy?
October 19th, 2007 at 3:24 pmI'd would rather pay taxes to the goverment, than premiums to private health carriers, who screw you for profits, won't insure preexisting health problems and drop you when you try to claim benefits.
Please? Like they’re dropping dead in the streets today from lack of health care. Do you see how ridiculous you liberals sound?
You don't think any of the 40 million un-insured in this country have died as a result of it?
Come on. I'm starting to think you're not worth responding to.
And if you think it’s your responsibility to look after the less fortunate, by all means. Go ahead? There are plenty of charities out there that do that. Just don’t force those of us who aren’t feeling quite as guilty as you bleeding hearts to be part of your socialist world!
Comment by michael
I'm feeling guilty? Where did you get that from? Is it so hard for you to believe that people might do good for entirely altruistic reasons? Simply out of compassion?
Is compassion such an alien thing to you?
October 19th, 2007 at 3:25 pm213: The private school was a scholarship (that's one).
October 19th, 2007 at 3:28 pmThe Frosts total income was 50K. They were eligible for SCHIP under current standards.
You are one heartless, cruel, inhuman dude. When you get into an accident and your insurance company screws you, call me, I'll take your case, but you will get a lecture on what it means to be a human being.
No, not as a direct result of being uninsured. If I’m wrong give us the facts to back it up?
Comment by michael
God dude... it's common sense.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:30 pm216: michael: name one right wing site that allows the "opposing" view to be heard? (sound of crickets chirping).
October 19th, 2007 at 3:31 pmTP allows righties to post their drivel, with very limited regulation of content.
Why is the right wing afraid of the free flow of ideas? Because their views are so morally bankrupt?
218: Yes to capitalism with government regulation, so our good corporate friends play fair.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:33 pmNope that’s what charities and churches are for. Opps! Was it ok to mention churches? I forgot this is a progressive site.
Comment by michael — October 19, 2007 @ 3:30 pm
That's right, let the good will of the people take care of it. But so help me God, if someone asks me for a dollar when I'm walking down the sidewalk I'm going to spit on him and tell him to get a job...he should stop choosing to be homeless.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:33 pmNope that’s what charities and churches are for. Opps! Was it ok to mention churches? I forgot this is a progressive site.
Comment by michael
My daughter had to have $180,000 back operation a few years ago. Tell me, what charity or church would have covered that for us?
October 19th, 2007 at 3:34 pm224: You, my dear ego-filled friend were not the subject of my post.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:34 pmI'm beginning to think you guys miss Mr. Pee.
I mean, I know I went a little overboard with Whack-A-Trollâ„¢ yesterday, but this thread looks like Animal House after a toga party. You guys sure are willing to entertain poor lonely michael.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:35 pmGoodbye all. Time to go. Have a nice weekend. And Michael, do something nice for someone else, instead of yourself.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:35 pmYou can't argue with these people.
According to John Dean (and his documented research), these Right-Wing Authoritarians (like Michael and his pals) have absolutely no problem with conflicting points of view, even if they are diametrically opposed,
Take this one: Rush called all soldiers who don't support the war "phony soldiers" - we've all heard the audio and read the transcript - but that means NOTHING to these RWA, who simply parrot back what they are told - in spite of having heard the audio and reading the transcript for themselves vs "Rush supports the troops."
They don't want to believe it, ergo, it's not true.
They (obviously) don't understand the concept of hypocrisy.
Facts? Who needs 'em? They have FAITH.
They see any criticism of their leaders as an attack, and they react accordingly by attacking you if you criticise them - if you're a brain-damaged 12 year old or a 2 year old toddler, you're fair game.
Why bother arguing with these trolls? It's completely useless.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:39 pmI don’t know? Google it?
Comment by michael
It was a rhetorical question. There is none.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:42 pmWhy bother arguing with these trolls? It’s completely useless.
Comment by Leftside Annie
You're right.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:43 pm#25 TCdon:
I find Rush entertaining ...
So you're an eedjit. Why you'd advertise such, I dn't know, but then again, you're an eedjit. (Bet that FauxSnooze "comedy" show cracked you up as well...)
... Nonetheless, you apparantly don’t know the source of the word: “Dittohead.†Do some research. It is not as you would portray, a word to describe someone who hears what Rush says and just blindly accepts it with the proclomation of “Ditto.â€...
An apt description even if that's not what they meant.
Rather, as I recall, Rush got tired of callers wasting time by starting each conversation with things like, “I’m a long time listener, but first time caller, and it’s a pleasure to talk to you, you’re a great American, thank you for taking my call, etc….. etc…..†so he asked them to shorten the initial pleasantries to a simple “Ditto†and get straight to the subject and it stuck.
IOW, they're a bunch of circle-jerkers (too). Glad you cleared that up.
Cheers,
October 19th, 2007 at 3:44 pmYou’re right.
Comment by DigDug — October 19, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
You libs just don't get it. Why can't you just admit that we'd be way better off if we just sterilized everyone who falls below the poverty line. Survival of the fittest, thats the Republican way. Your sense of social responsibility makes me sick...just sick.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:45 pmThese Right-Wing Authoritarians (like Michael and his pals) have absolutely no problem with conflicting points of view, even if they are diametrically opposed...
Comment by Leftside Annie — October 19, 2007 @ 3:39 pm
Of course not. That's because the conservative mind is much less suited to shades of gray, new information and abstract concepts than the liberal mind.
They hold one view. Then the next view comes in and pushes the first out. The first vanishes, as if it never existed. It's a binary system. On/Off. One or Zero.
That's why hypotheticals don't have any impact on them -- they take in the details and focus on a single detail to the exclusion of all else. You can't build an argument that will eventually reach fruition because of this binary charateristic. At least, I've never seen it happen.
Not all conservatives are limited like that, of course. Some are really intelligent and capable and make good points. Those conservatives never seem to find their way to TP, however.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:49 pmIts kind of sad to see the wind taken out of your pink sails today. Your usual mindless lberal tripe is even less interesting than usual. Clearly you're all feeling the sting of when Rush handed your collective butts to you by owning Reid and company. And seriosly, refusing to debate us because "its usless" only shows how utterly weak your argument is. Liberlas hate fair debate, that's why you people are so upset that you've lost your monopoly on the media. Actually for being a stronghold leftwing hatesite, beating you here on your own turf has proven to be all too easy. Like shooting fish in a barrel.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:50 pmCheers
erock, you're starting to scare me.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:50 pmrefusing to debate us because “its usless†only shows how utterly weak your argument is.
Comment by ClintonGotABlowjobAndI'mStillJealous — October 19, 2007 @ 3:50 pm
If it makes you feel better to think so, have at it.
But you do have a point. Refusing to continue smashing my car into a block wall only shows how utterly weak my car is.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:54 pmIf it makes you feel better to think so, have at it.
But you do have a point. Refusing to continue smashing my car into a block wall only shows how utterly weak my car is.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — October 19, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
Typically, trolls are convinced of their own brilliance, especially at "debating". And, typically, their debating skills are nonexistent. The michael? troll is a particularly absurd example but the troll currently masquerading as "clintonismuchcoolerthanme" is running a close second.
October 19th, 2007 at 4:01 pmgummitch I am no troll, I simply disagree with most of you liberals. I have my pov, you have yours. Trying to dehumanize me and my point of view only shows that you extremists have a lot of trouble debating the merits of your ideas. Reid and mediamatters smearing Rush is typical of how liberal extremists deal with dissent. Its clear to me that you can't defend your indefensible positions, so instead you circle the wagons and post snide personal remarks to your fellow lefty friends instead of offering any coherent counter points. Honestly, its sad how miswired liberalism is. Its also clear that the lefties all are getting beaten here today, I know it, you know it.
Its funny to me how inconsistent some of you liberals are. On one hand your Bush Derangement Syndrome causes your knees to jerk everytime you feel like the Administration is infringing on your precious rights and freedoms, although at the same time you're perfectly willing to give up your rights, your choice and your personal freedoms to the democrats to run your healthcare as well as every other aspect of your lives. How sad for you that you need beaurocrats to organize your lives for you.
October 19th, 2007 at 4:14 pmWhy bother arguing with these trolls? It’s completely useless.
Comment by Leftside Annie
You’re right.
Comment by DigDug — October 19, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
Dig - I prefer "correct".....for obvious reasons. ;o)
October 19th, 2007 at 4:21 pmHeh.
Troll Debating Skills: I know you are, but what am I???
*eyeroll*
October 19th, 2007 at 4:23 pmThis is so pathetic. Everyone of michael ann coulter's posts, as well as ClintonGotABlowJobAndI'mJealous' have a recommendation status after them.
October 19th, 2007 at 4:24 pmMan, self pleasuring on the internet(s) has never been more revealing. But, alas, credit is due, as they derailed the thread with nonsensical posts and never stayed on topic.
Kudos.
Now if we could just teach michael ann coulter about punctuation, and stalking laws...
What passes for debate amongst RW foamers:
Its kind of sad to see the wind taken out of your pink sails today. Your usual mindless lberal tripe is even less interesting than usual. Clearly you’re all feeling the sting of when Rush handed your collective butts to you by owning Reid and company. And seriosly, refusing to debate us because “its usless†only shows how utterly weak your argument is. Liberlas hate fair debate, that’s why you people are so upset that you’ve lost your monopoly on the media. Actually for being a stronghold leftwing hatesite, beating you here on your own turf has proven to be all too easy. Like shooting fish in a barrel.
Comment by ClintonWasImpeachedAndDisbarred — October 19, 2007 @ 3:50 pm
"... and ... and ... and my Daddy's gonna kick your Daddy's butt!!! So there! <*sound of pants dripping and receding footsteps*>
Cheers,
October 19th, 2007 at 4:24 pmgummitch I am no troll, I simply disagree with most of you liberals. I have my pov, you have yours. Trying to dehumanize me and my point of view only shows that you extremists have a lot of trouble debating the merits of your ideas. Reid and mediamatters smearing Rush is typical of how liberal extremists deal with dissent. Its clear to me that you can’t defend your indefensible positions, so instead you circle the wagons and post snide personal remarks to your fellow lefty friends instead of offering any coherent counter points. Honestly, its sad how miswired liberalism is. Its also clear that the lefties all are getting beaten here today, I know it, you know it.
Comment by ClintonWasImpeachedAndDisbarred — October 19, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
When you actually post a coherent point, there will be plenty of people willing to post coherent counter points. In the meantime, you persist in your truly delusional belief that "the lefties are getting beaten."
Sorry, but you are by definition a troll. Look it up.
October 19th, 2007 at 4:25 pmNot all conservatives are limited like that, of course. Some are really intelligent and capable and make good points. Those conservatives never seem to find their way to TP, however.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama
This is very true. When I was posting on Redstate (before I got banned for letting slip me anti-war beliefs), I got into some great discussions with some very smart and knowledgeable conservatives.
And I agree, those people don't seem to come here.
October 19th, 2007 at 4:27 pmClintonWasImpeachedAndDisbarred = Mr. P
October 19th, 2007 at 4:28 pmJeez! It smells in here.
October 19th, 2007 at 4:33 pmIt's difficult to read the trolls here expressing their selfishness, their self-righteousness, uncharitable attitude and defense of the drug-addicted, inflammatory radio host, who has denied that he said what he said.
Reid and mediamatters smearing Rush is typical of how liberal extremists deal with dissent
Conservatives don't do any smearing? Surely you can see the hypocrasy in your accusation here?
October 19th, 2007 at 4:34 pmHow sad for you that you need beaurocrats to organize your lives for you.
Comment by ClintonGotABlowJobAndAllIGotWasThisLousyT-Shirt — October 19, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
Oh the irony is just killing me.
October 19th, 2007 at 4:35 pm(Hint: dittohead)
How sad for you that you need beaurocrats to organize your lives for you.
Comment by ClintonWasImpeachedAndDisbarred — October 19, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
Thanks for '06, and for finally destroying your party by allowing your beaurocrats to shred the Constitution and spend all of your tax dollars on making arms dealers and oilmen insanely rich. You have shown how much you hate freedom and the American ideal, and we thank you in advance for the landlide victories progressives will have for the next several election cycles, as you rush-washed imbeciles lose all of your power and ability to try moving this country back to the Nazi Germany of the 1930s. All of your lies and treasonous bullshit is going to make you completely irrelevant and ineffective for decades, finally. North Korea has a nice 1-room walkup all ready for you and the rest of the America-hating rightards like you. Get out while you can.

October 19th, 2007 at 4:45 pmUh...these trolls are born without the ability to recognize hypocrisy.
It's sorta like that tongue-rolling thing.
October 19th, 2007 at 4:46 pmComment by ClintonWasImpeachedAndDisbarred — October 19, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
OK, I'll bite --
"I simply disagree with most of you liberals. I have my pov, you have yours."
-- And that's fine. Unlike rightwing sites like RedState and Ann Coulter, TP doesn't ban people just because of their views.
"Trying to dehumanize me and my point of view only shows that you extremists have a lot of trouble debating the merits of your ideas."
-- If you're being dehumanized, that's a shame. Nobody should dehumanize another human. But if you believe nobody here debates the merits of the ideas of others, you're not paying attention.
"Reid and mediamatters smearing Rush is typical of how liberal extremists deal with dissent."
-- Dealing with Rush Limbaugh goes beyond dealing with dissent. Rush does not merely present an opposing point of view, he mocks, he exaggerates, he insults, he distorts, and he outright lies. And he smears (so it's kind of funny that he accuses others of smearing him). All we do with Rush is expose him for what he is. Yes, he gets called a lot of names here at TP, but he's chosen to live and die by that sword. If he can't take it, he shouldn't dish it out.
"Its clear to me that you can’t defend your indefensible positions, so instead you circle the wagons and post snide personal remarks to your fellow lefty friends instead of offering any coherent counter points."
-- I'm quite comfortable with my positions and I can defend them, thankyouverymuch. And so can many others who post here regularly at TP. You may be getting a rather skewed perspective because this is a Limbaugh thread, and reaction to that blowhard can be a bit visceral here. Besides, on this thread, what's to defend? Rush got caught in a lie. What else is new? Debating the "Rush can do no wrong" crowd is pretty pointless. Check out some of the other threads and you will find better examples of debate.
"Honestly, its sad how miswired liberalism is."
-- Can't respond to that vague statement without a few specifics. I'll just say I don't feel miswired. My values are in order.
"Its also clear that the lefties all are getting beaten here today, I know it, you know it."
-- No, I don't know that. I don't feel beaten. And this isn't really a valid debate point. It actually sounds more like a "snide personal remark" instead of a "coherent counter point" (quotes are yours, but you probably recognized them).
"Its funny to me how inconsistent some of you liberals are. On one hand your Bush Derangement Syndrome causes your knees to jerk everytime you feel like the Administration is infringing on your precious rights and freedoms, although at the same time you’re perfectly willing to give up your rights, your choice and your personal freedoms to the democrats to run your healthcare as well as every other aspect of your lives. How sad for you that you need beaurocrats to organize your lives for you."
October 19th, 2007 at 4:59 pm-- Aha! FINALLY we get to a point I can actually respond to with some content. You bring up two issues that are hardly comparable. Erosion of the Bill of Rights and other parts of the constitution is one issue, and a completely separate one from universal health care. Conflating them is like conflating government-paid highways with communism. Yes, I object to the trampling of the first, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, and eighth amendments. And yes, I support universal health care -- not because I require bureaucrats to organize my life, but because our current system is expensive, unfair, and broken. I would rather deal with a few bureaucrats than continue shoveling out tons of money toward the for-profit health care industry. And so would a majority of Americans.
Nicely done, missmolly. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a cogent reply if I were you.
October 19th, 2007 at 5:32 pmFor outrageous comments from the right wing, check out this, summarized by William Pitt:
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/50
October 19th, 2007 at 6:02 pmAdding my kudos for Missmolly - "hear, hear!"
- A
October 19th, 2007 at 6:47 pmBased on this statement, one can only assume that some of his minions have turned on him. It's one thing to attack an adult, Rush old boy, but an entirely different animal when you attack a child. Convicts have the same rule in prison. Short-eyes Limbaugh has been called out, and the inmates don't like it. Pity.
October 19th, 2007 at 7:55 pmgood golly, miss molly!
October 19th, 2007 at 10:52 pmthat was good...
Great post missmolly!
October 20th, 2007 at 1:47 amRush Limbaugh has been saying outrageous things daily for years and nobody ever went after him. He has been there just brainwashing people's minds, distorting the facts, attacking whoever does not sing his songs, offending everyone he decides to.
October 20th, 2007 at 10:13 amIt's time to follow this guy's reprehensible behavior on a daily basis, getting him to some responsibility about what he says. Every day he says many stupid thinks, but taking one daily, and exposing his fallacy, whould be enough to show people his malicious attitude/behavior.
Besides, he is a coward. He only talks, he does not engage in any intelligent debate. And when it happens, only occasionally, he will not the oponent talk, he would interrupt before the person can finish a phrase. (Same as Mr. Hannity @ Fox).
I am amazed that he has some people in his audience who are intelligent. Well,.... are they really????
We are entertained by outrageous behavior.
All that is needed is to require a disclaimer after every break on these programs. A warning label.
"This program is intended for entertainment purposes only. It is not an educational or news program" ... or something like that
All the ranters like Savage, Limbaugh, Coulter, O'Reilly etc. should be required to warn their listeners.
And Fox News should be required run it constantly on their marquee
October 20th, 2007 at 12:51 pmtesting..
October 20th, 2007 at 5:52 pmLimbaugh never attacked Graeme Frost. He attacked the Democrats for using a 12 year old. He said the Democrats filled Graeme Frost's head with lies. He said the Democrats sent Graeme Frost out to lie for them. He never once attacked the kid. The only thing he did was talk about the Frost family's financial standing. If he got that wrong, then so what? It wouldn't be the first time someone got a bad piece of information. Also, have any of you looked at the Terms of Use? It says, under blog community rules:
October 21st, 2007 at 4:50 pmYou agree not to: Post any content to the Blog that is unlawful, racist, hateful, libelous, defamatory, obscene, or that intentionally discriminates against or harasses particular individuals or groups
Rush: "I never once attacked this family."
Can this be proof that Mr. limbaugh is back on his illegally acquired prescription drugs?
Or does this further show that the so-called "take responsibility" conservatives refuse to take responsibility for their statements?
How about: both!
October 22nd, 2007 at 7:51 amThe funniest part of this whole Rush Limbaugh debacle is that he truly believes that when he pre-screens his calls to ensure that non-conservative callers are not allowed on his show that he's somehow being "fair and balanced". Try it sometime. Call up and say "I'm a liberal, here to point out the falacies of Mr. Limbaugh's arguments" and see how quicly you are disconnected. It happens every time.
Or how about when he cuts people off that argue with him, expecially when they're making a cogent point against the Limbaugh Extremist point of view, that he's supposedly "winning" the argument.
How sad for Mr Limbaugh that he refuses to see the truth of his faltering logic.
October 22nd, 2007 at 7:59 amSo Democrat Soldier, you're saying he should take responsibility for satements he never made? Ok, using that logic, take responsibility for you saying "Limbaugh is right."
October 23rd, 2007 at 6:03 am#217 - Rush said "They send the kid out to lie."
Then rush said "I Never Once Attacked This Family"
Nope, looks like Rush Limbaugh is the liar, when he refuses to take responsibility for his own statements.
Maybe you should look up the definition for "responsibility", patriot. I don't think you understand what it truly means.
October 24th, 2007 at 7:45 am#272 - Opps! I should be referencing Post 271, not 217! Dyslexia, I guess! ;-)
October 24th, 2007 at 7:45 amRush is just a product of the corporate media. Need I say more?
November 21st, 2007 at 1:59 pm