Frosts refuse to back down.
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Frosts refuse to back down.
Despite the right-wing assault against them, the Frost family continues to press for children’s health insurance. The AP reports that Bonnie Frost will appear in a new radio spot “in support of Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley’s health care expansion proposal.”
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Good for them, and good for Graeme for being brave enough to help the cause. I hope people pay close attention to the lies, distortions, half-truths and innuendo that the right-wing, driven by nothing more than a desire to “win”, will sling against and about the Frost family. Then ask yourself if those kind of people should represent you in government?
October 20th, 2007 at 1:25 amMichelle Malkin just took the price tags out of her stalkin’ outfit.
October 20th, 2007 at 1:29 amGood on her!
October 20th, 2007 at 2:32 amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS6d0aPrL1Q
dr strangelove actually happened today.
October 20th, 2007 at 3:13 amWayne A. Schneider has said in #1 pretty much everything I would want to write here, so I won’t go on much longer. In any case, for what it’s worth, the Frost family have my moral support and admiration. And as far as I’m concerned, Michelle Malice and Rush Limpballs ought to be institutionalized; they’re stark, raving mad.
October 20th, 2007 at 3:21 amlobby your senator to return any money they may have taken from telecoms if they plan to give them immunity..
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/10/19/92852/792
October 20th, 2007 at 3:41 amThe Frosts: one BRAVE family.
Frosts vs The Reich Wing Attack Machine (RWAM)
Frosts: 10,000,000
RWAM: 0, Nada, Goose Egg (on their faces)
October 20th, 2007 at 3:44 amSaving America from itself:
http://bp3.blogger.com/_a1q3xqwBwoU/RxiQlwqKAjI/AAAAAAAAACs/rE8migdKWd0/s1600-h/REAL-SOLDIERS.jpg
October 20th, 2007 at 4:14 amGreat. After seeing some of those hospital pictures on KO and all that the Frosts have gone through, Mitch McConnell and the rest of the bullies who believe funding crooked contractors in Iraq is more important must seem like pretty small potatoes to them.
October 20th, 2007 at 6:45 amWhy should the Frost’s back down? I imagine they love their kid and actually want for him to have health insurance. Besides, everything the Repubs have said about them have been lies.
October 20th, 2007 at 7:17 amThis is their way of being “Real Americans”…..swiftboating a child….Dispicable.
October 20th, 2007 at 8:54 amIsn’t it ironic that when a Democrat says something that turns out to be incorrect or viewed as over-the-top, the Republicans are quick to jump on them and demand an apology and the Democrat that said it usually issues one but when a Republican does the same thing, they lie and twist and squirm to avoid and accountability for what they say. Complete two-faced hypocrites
October 20th, 2007 at 9:41 amLies are now and always have been the coin of the Republican realm. the very first Republican president, Lincoln, was a liar and war-monger. it’s in their DNA.
October 20th, 2007 at 9:55 amPerhaps now they will be able to buy their own health insurance and get off the dole.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 20, 2007 @ 9:54 am
Why should they? We all should have health insurance, instead of living like jungle savages. Republicans haven’t reached the fully human stage of evolution yet.
October 20th, 2007 at 9:56 amRepublicans have been “left behind” the evolutionary curve. Any human progress is anathema to them, being more like primitive barbarians than civilized humans. They are constantly proving their incompetence and inability to govern, yet their “base” is ignorant enough to keep allowing them to steal from them, and pillage the treasury while hoping for children and the elderly to die unattended. Rightwingers are the scum of society, living off cor[orate welfare while ripping of the USA.
October 20th, 2007 at 10:00 amComment by TCDon — October 20, 2007 @ 10:00 am
And the Repiglicunts can continue to celebrate the deaths of children as well as soldiers on the 4th and 5th tours, while refusing to enlist and help in the cause they give lip service to. typical of rightwing cowardice, ignorance and barbarianism.
October 20th, 2007 at 10:02 amWhen Republicans hide behind children, they unfortunately do it with their pants down. No wonder they don’t care about kids.
October 20th, 2007 at 10:03 amDon’t ever forget, this is the same bunch of Republicans that are led by the man soley responsible for the massive failure of 9/11, George Bush, whose love for the Bin Laden family and their money allowed him to let the terrorists take down those buildings and attack the PENTAGON! republicans have no use for Aemrican citizens who aren’t in their greedy, unevolved social circle.
October 20th, 2007 at 10:06 amAnd secondly: If you choose to live like a “jungle savage†here in the United States, that is your choice, and your right. You certainly are not required to, and the rest of us certainly do not have to.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 20, 2007 @ 10:04 am
but you have chosen to live like a savage, and take no regard for human life. this bullshit about “sweat and toil” should apply equally to waging illegal, immoral wars on innocents, but not to you primitives on the right. American children are worth saving to me, but not to you. I get it. You’ve all made it abundantly clear that your hardons are dependent on killing thousands of innocent strangers while reading about your representatives trolling for kids and cops. nice bunch of perverts you support.
October 20th, 2007 at 10:08 amTypical “hope†from a typical Liberal wishing for disaster so they can blame someone else. You’re not going to get very far with an attitude like that.
Comment by TCDon — October 20, 2007 @ 10:08 am
Really? Thanks for ‘06. Your traitor president hoped fervently for a disaster just like that to save his sorry ass, and, voila, what a coincidence! Bush allowed 9/11, and you have done nothing about it. Bye-bye, GOP, it has sucked knowing you, and you won’t be missed!
October 20th, 2007 at 10:10 amTypical ad hominem attack from Lefty. I would expect nothing less.
Comment by TCDon — October 20, 2007 @ 10:05 am
Where? You really should learn the English language, or at least avoid using terms you don’t understand.
October 20th, 2007 at 10:12 amHere come the wackos, continuing to reveal themselves to be the crazy conspiracy theorists they are and attempting to disgrace the memories of the brave Americans who died on 9/11. How low can you go?
Comment by TCDon — October 20, 2007 @ 10:22 am
we’ll never reach your gutter level of celebrating the deaths of American on 9/11 and since so y8our big daddy deserter president can wave his puny littlle dick around and bomb thousands of innocents to death. those 3000 (not all were Americans, by the way, you ignorant fool) only died because of Bush’s ego and his incompetence, so perhaps you’d like to look in the mirror, and ask yourself why you so blindly support a man who allowed that disaster, and continues to kill thousands of Americans; more, in fact, than on 9/11? Try that one out, sheep.
October 20th, 2007 at 10:25 amComment by O. Bigfoot — October 20, 2007 @ 10:23 am
good, bigfoot, true to form. 3 points, 3 lies. keep it up, your party will never again see a majority or the White House.
October 20th, 2007 at 10:26 amI’m starting to wonder if “Lefty Patriot†is really a misguided Republican posting ridiculous things to make the Left look bad, because “Lefty†is really making the Left look bad. But then again, so are Pelosi and Reid.
Comment by TCDon — October 20, 2007 @ 10:26 am
Are you taking to your friends in the 24%?
Hahahahahaha!
October 20th, 2007 at 10:27 amPerhaps now they will be able to buy their own health insurance and get off the dole.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 20, 2007 @ 9:54 am
Yet you don’t expect politicians to do the same. Amazing hypocrisy.
First off, there is no “illegal, immoral†war.
Of course there is. A preemptive war is illegal by int’l law. You know that.
Secondly, no child is currently denied health care in the United States.
Of course they are. They are not denied emergency health care. But try and get preventative health care without insurance… or walk a person into a hospital and ask to have them check to see if they have cancer… not going to happen. You also know that.
October 20th, 2007 at 10:28 amRighties are especially weak this morning. Facts are against them, and they see it; they see the destruction of their party, and the left once again stepping in to save America.
October 20th, 2007 at 10:28 amAre you talking to your friends in the 11%?
Comment by TCDon — October 20, 2007 @ 10:28 am
2008 will prove that that talking point is a lie. Wait for it.
October 20th, 2007 at 10:29 amAre you talking to your friends in the 11%?
Comment by TCDon — October 20, 2007 @ 10:28 am
I’m talking to my friends in the 74%, the real America, not the freedom-hating fear-mongering sheeple of the right. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Or are you referring to the fact that Republicans in congress garner only half the positives of Democrats?
October 20th, 2007 at 10:31 amYou see, TCDumb, none of the figures you cite does anything to allay the fact that America has moved strongly left, after giving your side every chance, and watching you blow it all for the past 30 years. We will have our socialist paradise, where everybody benefits, not just a few greedy liars. Even you will be included; a better life for all Americans. i know you hate that idea, but it’s now inevitable, since we have seen what you want, and it doesn’t fit here. North Korea, maybe, but not here.
October 20th, 2007 at 10:34 amIt’s what keep you kook-lefties marginalized and posting on blogs, rather than in positions of real power….and I thank you!
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 20, 2007 @ 10:32 am
Thanks, 24%er, we’ll remember that when we have the White House and massive majorities 16 months from now.
Bwahahahaha!
October 20th, 2007 at 10:35 amWould you care to place a wager on that? (grinning)…
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 20, 2007 @ 10:34 am
I learned never to bet with republicans; they never pay up. Typical.
October 20th, 2007 at 10:36 amYou really think that 74% of Americans agree with your crazy conspiracy theories? You are truly delusional and likely a danger to yourself. Baker Acting appears to be in order.
Comment by TCDon — October 20, 2007 @ 10:35 am
Actually, they do. You’re the one on the outside, looking in. You are a danger to America, and thus are being marginalized and shunted to the back of the line. Just don’t let a Repig congressman get behind you, if you value your virginity. What is it with you people and perverts?
October 20th, 2007 at 10:39 amHow are you and your 11%ers possibly going to win the White House? With Hillary? Give me a break. A large percentage of Democrats won’t even vote for her.
Comment by TCDon — October 20, 2007 @ 10:38 am
I can’t wait until she gets sworn in and starts using those unitary exec powers to dismantle the Great Rightwing Conspiracy. You’re very sadly mistaken (what a surprise) if you think a Dem would ever vote for another Republican in this lifetime.
October 20th, 2007 at 10:40 amIt seems only “lefties†feel it is appropriate to judge an entire class by the actions of only a very few. In some instances, this type of judgmental behavior would be considered racist, sexist, or intolerant….but I suppose those on the left figure it’s ok, as long as the judgment is coming from the left and it supports the left’s goals for the United States.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 20, 2007 @ 10:23 am
This could well be the penultimate, perfect example of Li’l Footie’s demented, twisted thinking here, folks. Justified in condeming an “entire class” of (nonexistent, BTW) people (please define clearly and accurately “lefties”, Nimrod… and don’t resort to one of your childish, self-serving smears as a definition) because he believes they’re doing… huh… exactly… what… he’s doing… Oh! The Irony!!!
He’s gotta be a struggling comic. This has to be deliberate self-parody.
No real human being could possible be this unintentionally blind about their own behavior, could they? Could they??? COULD THEY???
October 20th, 2007 at 10:41 amEspecially given the crossdressing, lazy, insane freaks the repukes are running. Richard Simmons could crush them.
October 20th, 2007 at 10:41 amNo real human being could possible be this unintentionally blind about their own behavior, could they? Could they??? COULD THEY???
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — October 20, 2007 @ 10:41 am
As I have stated, Republicans are not fully humanized, being well behind on the evolutionary curve.
October 20th, 2007 at 10:42 amIt’s time for people in this country to start speaking up!
October 20th, 2007 at 10:42 amThis administration has been destroying everything that is (was!) good in this country and the people have been just numb!
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it people will eventually come to believe it.”
– Joseph Goebbels
Health Care FACTS:
“The United States is the only industrialized nation that does not guarantee access to health care as a right of citizenship. 28 industrialized nations have single payer universal health care systems, while 1 (Germany) has a multipayer universal health care system like President Clinton proposed for the United States.”
- The United States ranks 23rd in infant mortality
- The United States ranks 20th in life expectancy for women
- The United States ranks 21st in life expectancy for men
- The United States ranks 67th in immunizations, right behind Botswana
- The United States spends at least 40% more per capita on health care than any other industrialized country
- Federal studies by the Congressional Budget Office and the General Accounting office show that single payer universal health care would save 100 to 200 Billion dollars per year despite covering all the uninsured and increasing health care benefits
- Around 30% of Americans have problem accessing health care due to payment problems or access to care, far more than any other industrialized country. About 17% of our population is without health insurance. About 75% of ill uninsured people have trouble accessing/paying for health care
- Private for profit health care corporations are the lease efficient deliverer of health care. They spend between 20 and 30% of premiums on administration and profits. The public sector is the most efficient. Medicare spends 3% on administration
- Single payer universal health care is not socialized medicine. It is health care payment system, not a health care delivery system. Health care providers would be in fee for service practice, and would not be employees of the government, which would be socialized medicine. Single payer health care is not socialized medicine, any more than the public funding of education is socialized education, or the public funding of the defense industry is socialized defense
Source:
PNHP
CCUHC
Americans need to WAKE UP before it is TOO LATE. Contact your elected representatives today and demand they start working for YOU, and YOUR FAMILY. Tell them you support a Single Payer Health Care Plan.
October 20th, 2007 at 10:42 amJust take a look at the current Democrat Congress for proof of that….all that rhetoric, and still a George Bush agenda..and I thank you for that as well!
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 20, 2007 @ 10:42 am
we’ll clean that sty as well, unlike your traitorus voters who will allow child-molesters, perverts and thieves to stay in office forever. republican obstructionists are the first to go, however. have you noticed how many “retirements” have been announced in the past few weeks?
hehehehehehe!
October 20th, 2007 at 10:44 amok TP – time for another thread…
this one stinks to high heaven!
…
why do progs argue with eggheads?
?
October 20th, 2007 at 10:45 amyou have just over a year to celebrate republican incompetence, fraud, treason and lying, bigfoot, live it up!
October 20th, 2007 at 10:45 amBeen blessed by OBL yet?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 20, 2007 @ 10:45 am
Why, will he then get an invite to the White House, where OBL is a celebrated, well-loved figure?
October 20th, 2007 at 10:46 amwhy do progs argue with eggheads?
?
Comment by katy — October 20, 2007 @ 10:45 am
it’s just a hobby. I like easy hobbies, and destroying these clowns is virtually effortless.
October 20th, 2007 at 10:47 amAnd by Lefty Patriot’s statements, it is clearly shown that “lefties†are notorious liars, believeing that any strategy, no matter how dispicable, is allowable as long as it furthers their cause of changing the United States from a productive, free-market economy, into a socialist nation of dependent sheep.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 20, 2007 @ 10:12 am
Hahhhahahahahaha! This person still believes that we have a free market…..Hahahahhahahhaha! The very existence of Wal-Mart and our so called free trade with China slays that theory. Let’s not forget OPEC. How tragically deluded he is…Hahahahahhahahhaaaaa!!!!!
October 20th, 2007 at 10:48 amThanks, but no thanks. I’m a citizen of the United States of America, thank you very much.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 20, 2007 @ 10:47 am
that’s OK bigfoot, you won’t be left out. you’ll be able to get that brain scan that will determine just how small your brain really is, and will answer all of the questions as to why you have such trouble making any sense.
October 20th, 2007 at 10:49 amwell… but there is one question i’d like an answer to…
seems to have been “overlooked”, on 3 different threads yesterday…
?
October 20th, 2007 at 10:52 ami just wonder, bigfoot – did you kick your college attending children off
your insurance coverage when they turned 18? or 16? when?
?
Comment by katy — October 19, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
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Comment by RemoveBush — October 20, 2007 @ 11:01 am
I wonder if his parents or grandparents utilize Medicaid or Social Security, Nah, they give it back because to actually use those Socialistic programs would make them sheep.
October 20th, 2007 at 11:09 amJust like a “Leftyâ€: To wonder why someone should pay their own way if they can afford it, rather than live off the sweat and toil of those who do.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 20, 2007 @ 10:04 am
I suppose then that you believe that nobody should ever accept any benefit for free if they can afford to pay for it. Therefore, our president, our senators, and our congressmen should all pay for their own health care instead of allowing our government to pay for it. After all, why should they be getting freebies paid for by the sweat and toil of the rest of us?
October 20th, 2007 at 11:12 amAnd by Lefty Patriot’s statements, it is clearly shown that “lefties†are notorious liars, believeing that any strategy, no matter how dispicable, is allowable as long as it furthers their cause of changing the United States from a productive, free-market economy, into a socialist nation of dependent sheep.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 20, 2007 @ 10:12 am
Yeah, it would be awful if this country was anything like the rest of the developed world. We’d all be dependent sheep like those miserable slobs in Canada, Australia and western Europe.
What’s the exchange rate for the dollar these days, O? Instead of spouting stupid slogans from the 1950s, try paying attention to what happens in the real world.
October 20th, 2007 at 11:15 amBack to Bonnie Frost and her brave family
My thanks to you, Bonnie, for continuing to stand up and speak out on this crucial issue. Your family suffered a tragedy — like any family could, any day of the week — and you have shown courage and true family values.
The fight over S-CHIP has educated all Americans to the truth:
1. S-CHIP is a vital program for our working families. Keep it.
2. Sen. Mitch McConnell will crawl in the gutter and spread lies about the Frosts as a way to trash S-CHIP. He got caught this time, lying about the role of his office in smearing the Frosts.
Bye, bye Mitch. We are sick of you and your lies. Thanks again, to Bonnie Frost. (stick to the topic on this link please)
October 20th, 2007 at 11:18 amLet’s face it. Nobody pays for their own health care in this country. Not even the insured. They are subsidized by the pool of premium payers. That’s socialized health care – a social pact with others in the paying pot – but a very expensive way to provide health care because it’s a for profit system. Universal payer would be more efficient and cheaper for everyone.
By the way, the Frosts pay a monthly premium, too.
October 20th, 2007 at 11:19 am“We can deny our heritage and our history, but we cannot escape responsibility for the result. There is no way for a citizen of a republic to abdicate his responsibilities.”
– Edward R. Murrow (speech to the 1958 RTNDA Convention)
Seems that some here have abdicated their responsibilities to big business, corporate media, PAC’s, Dominionists theories, and purveyors of the idea of the Theocratic States of America.
They preach a steady Weimarization of the American working class!
They are citizens in name only.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. (Matthew 7:20)
October 20th, 2007 at 11:23 amNow,now lefties, you’re scaring the rightards with all of these facts! How dare you bring facts to a discussion with conturds?
October 20th, 2007 at 11:23 amComment by O. Bigfoot — October 20, 2007 @ 9:54 am
Comment by TCDon — October 20, 2007 @ 10:00 am
Keep dreamin’, morons. You won’t know what hit you and your precious GOP come November 5, 2008. The supine cowards in the Democratic party couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn, but you are serving it up on a silver platter to them anyway.
October 20th, 2007 at 11:27 amThe way I see it, the only thing that matters to conservatives is winning (even silly debates on a blog), not about doing what is right.
Can the “rightie” posters honestly say that if one of their neighbors had two kids hospitalized in an accident that they wouldn’t rally to help them?
Guess what? We’re all Americans and these people are your neighbors. Will you help them or turn your backs?
October 20th, 2007 at 11:40 amGuess what? We’re all Americans and these people are your neighbors. Will you help them or turn your backs?
Comment by TheToonGuy — October 20, 2007 @ 11:40 am
Oh, they’d rally to help them, then send them a bill. Republicans worship money, it is their actual God.
October 20th, 2007 at 11:58 amThis site is very entertaining. Some of the dumbest, most childish stuff I’ve read anywhere can always be found here. Lefty Patriot and RemoveBush, you folks are great! You find conspiracy in everything and never let a fact get in the way of an outrageous claim. The silly name calling reminds me of a grade school playground. That’s the kind of stuff that makes this cartoon worth reading! Keep it up!
October 20th, 2007 at 11:59 amComment by TheRef — October 20, 2007 @ 11:59 am
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Make an actual contribution to the discussion or crawl back under the stove, cockroach.
October 20th, 2007 at 12:03 pmDAY 9 Since McConnell Lied to Reporter about Frost Smear
The McConnell Scandal has proven to everyone in this nation what we in Kentucky already know. Mitch McConnell will crawl in the gutter to slash and burn anyone — including the Frost family — to support Bush’s failed agenda.
It’s time to call out McConnell on his latest round of lies. This time he was caught, looking dead into the camera, lying to a reporter about the Frost smear job.
Where’s the outrage, you right wing Bushies who post nasty comments here? Where’s your support for “family values?”
Thanks again, Bonnie Frost.
October 20th, 2007 at 12:06 pmThe silly name calling reminds me of a grade school playground.
Comment by TheRef — October 20, 2007 @ 11:59 am
So what do your filthy party mouthpieces like Limbaugh, Coulter, Malkin, Beck, et al. remind you of?
October 20th, 2007 at 12:16 pmThe silly name calling reminds me of a grade school playground.
Comment by TheRef — October 20, 2007 @ 11:59 am
So what do your filthy party mouthpieces like Limbaugh, Coulter, Malkin, Beck, et al. remind you of?
Comment by VerbalKint — October 20, 2007 @ 12:16 pm
Heh. Coulter even described her own name calling as “playground taunts” when she was busted for calling John Edwards a fagg*t.
October 20th, 2007 at 12:23 pmQuestion for OBigFootInMouth:
Obviously you are against the SCHIP program. Do you know who wrote this program in the first place?
October 20th, 2007 at 12:31 pmAfer all, if the message is delivered by a child, you’re not allowed to question it, right? The Dems strategy failed. Now the Dems will be forced to compromise, where before they refused, thus delaying the process. Eventually, an expanded S-CHIP program will be passed, just like the President wanted, but not nearly as broad as that desired by the Moveonocrats.
Comment by TCDon
By this you are implying that the right questioned the SCHIP program (which was originally written by Republicans). But that is not what they did. They did not debate the merits of the program, they slimed the families that benefited from the program. That was despicable.
And when they did directly address the program they lied. Here are their lies:
1) Immigrants would be able to use the program. No they wouldn’t. The program specifically said that proof of citizenship was required.
2) Any family making up to $83,000 a year would qualify. No they would not. This was a waiver asked for by New York where the cost of living is roughly triple the rest of the country. And, the request for the waiver was turned down.
3) Any person up to 25 years of age would qualify. No, this specifically referred to college students living at home dependent on their parents for their care. Currently private health insurance companies offer this benefit.
So TCDon, how about trying a little truth every once in a while. It’s kind of refreshing.
October 20th, 2007 at 12:38 pmJust like a “Leftyâ€: To wonder why someone should pay their own way if they can afford it, rather than live off the sweat and toil of those who do.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Thank you for making the point of SCHIP. These families could not afford to pay for private insurance, or they applied and were turned down. That is what this program was designed for (designed by Republicans, BTW). It was to cover the working poor who made too much to qualify for Medicade, but not enough to afford a private policy at an average of $1,000 a month for a family of four. And that’s assuming that everyone in the family is healthy. If anyone is not healthy, well, then, they will be turned down for the insurance.
While laid off a job I applied for private health insurance with every major carrier and was turned down because I am over 50 and have a pre-existing condition. Obviously I don’t qualify for SCHIP so I was SOL. Is that what you want for your country? Do you want to live in a country where people have to get sick and possibly die because they either can’t afford health insurance or can’t get health insurance.
Your heart is about as black as it could possibly be.
October 20th, 2007 at 12:47 pmThis site is very entertaining. Some of the dumbest, most childish stuff I’ve read anywhere can always be found here.
Try redstate.com. They put this blog to shame.
October 20th, 2007 at 12:48 pm#87 bilbo,
October 20th, 2007 at 1:01 pmYour story is all too familiar. I believe it is disgraceful that in this country, we do not have a system that provides health care for EVERYONE. The single-payer system appeals to me.
I have to purchase my own insurance and I know the process well; unlike you, I don’t have a pre-existing condition, except that I am “of a certain age” and therefore I must pay a “surcharge” on my monthly premium. Others turned me down flat because 15 years ago I had a bladder infection which was taken care of with medication within a week, never to return again. (I guess they considered that a “condition.”)
I never thought I would be eager to reach the age of Medicare, but the present system is burdensome, unfair, and excludes too many.
It was to cover the working poor who made too much to qualify for Medicade, but not enough to afford a private policy at an average of $1,000 a month for a family of four.
Comment by bilbobaggins — October 20, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
I keep hearing about Americans not wanting to add 15% to their tax bill to cover Universal healthcare. Well, if you’re paying $1k per month and let’s assume you’re earning $100k per year (which I doubt the average American is) then you’re already paying 12% for healthcare. And you’re not getting much for your money.
October 20th, 2007 at 1:16 pmAgreed, Dave. switching to universal coverage would most likely have little (if any) negative effect on the average American’s take home pay. It’d just shift from one column to another on the accounting sheet.
October 20th, 2007 at 1:21 pmDave, your point is well taken and should be repeatedly reminded to all Americans.
I haven’t heard a good reason why the business companies of America are not clamoring to get out from under the burden of providing health care for their employees.
October 20th, 2007 at 1:23 pmThat’s the kind of stuff that makes this cartoon worth reading! Keep it up!
Comment by TheRef — October 20, 2007 @ 11:59 am
Glad you’re enjoying it! I see you brought nothing to fight us with, since you have no facts to back up your foolish claims, so why bother? Typical hot air repuke.
October 20th, 2007 at 1:28 pmUm, because the insurance companies have been feeding all of us misinformation?
October 20th, 2007 at 1:29 pm#90. “I keep hearing about Americans not wanting to add 15% to their tax bill to cover Universal healthcare. Well, if you’re paying $1k per month and let’s assume you’re earning $100k per year (which I doubt the average American is) then you’re already paying 12% for healthcare. And you’re not getting much for your money.”
Comment by Dave C
A single payer health care system, would be financed by a payroll tax on employers (about 7%) and an income tax on individuals (about 2%). The payroll tax would replace all other employer expenses for employees’ health care. The income tax would take the place of all current insurance premiums, co-pays, deductibles, and any and all other out of pocket payments. For the vast majority of people a 2% income tax is less than what they now pay for insurance premiums and in out-of-pocket payments such as co-pays and deductibles, particularly for anyone who has had a serious illness or has a family member with a serious illness. It is also a fair and sustainable contribution.
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October 20th, 2007 at 1:32 pmI never thought I would be eager to reach the age of Medicare, but the present system is burdensome, unfair, and excludes too many.
Comment by Marie
I wouldn’t look forward to Medicare if I were you, unless we get a Democratic President who fixes the mess Bush has made of it. Over the last six years Bush has lowered the payments made to doctors and hospitals. Today, in my community, very few doctors will even take a Medicare patient. This leaves the only avenue for medical care to be overburdened clinics.
October 20th, 2007 at 1:47 pmThen click here to see if your candidate for President endorses this common sense approach to health care for Americans.
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Comment by Citizen_of_Earth
Bill Richardson and Dennis Kucinich are the only two Democratic candidates who support universal health care. The remainder support a system still involving the “free market” (meaning the health care insurers continue to get a cut of our health care dollars).
Think about this when you choose who to vote for in the primaries. My vote is going to Kucinich even though my vote won’t count since my state is not pushing it’s primary into the Christmas season.
With all this insanity of states pushing up their primary dates, I think we need to have a law that the parties can’t pick their candidates until the last primary has been held. Otherwise change the system so that all primaries are held on the same day, just like the general election. I am sick and tired of New Hampshire and Iowa deciding who will be the next President of the United States.
October 20th, 2007 at 1:52 pmI found out something interesting recently when I switched my party affiliation from Democrat to Independent. In my state Independent is viewed as a “party”. I had always thought that “Independent” meant you were not aligning yourself with any party, not that it was considered to be a political party. Is that the case in all states? If so, then I think the Independent Party needs to run a candidate. Wouldn’t it be refreshing to have a choice other than “the lesser of two evils”? Since the Independent party now has 36% of our citizens, almost as much as the Democratic Party, they should be a force to be reckoned with.
October 20th, 2007 at 1:55 pmI found out something interesting recently when I switched my party affiliation from Democrat to Independent. In my state Independent is viewed as a “partyâ€. I had always thought that “Independent†meant you were not aligning yourself with any party, not that it was considered to be a political party. Is that the case in all states? If so, then I think the Independent Party needs to run a candidate. Wouldn’t it be refreshing to have a choice other than “the lesser of two evilsâ€? Since the Independent party now has 36% of our citizens, almost as much as the Democratic Party, they should be a force to be reckoned with.
Comment by bilbobaggins — October 20, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
This is Oregon? It’s a brand new party and I understand that some people have been confused during registration, but there is supposed to be an unaffiliated box to check on the form.
We’ve also got the far-right Constitution Party, the Libertarian Party and the Pacific Green Party here. And the Socialists. In my district last year, there were legislative candidates from every party but one: the Republicans. Heh.
October 20th, 2007 at 3:18 pmWe’ve also got the far-right Constitution Party, the Libertarian Party and the Pacific Green Party here. And the Socialists. In my district last year, there were legislative candidates from every party but one: the Republicans. Heh.
Comment by gummitch
You must live in Portland. One of the party choices is “Working Families Party”. What in the heck is that?
There was a choice for “not affiliated with any party”, but I wanted to add my voice to the growing Independent Party.
October 20th, 2007 at 4:04 pm“After all, if the message is delivered by a child, you’re not allowed to question it, right? The Dems strategy failed. Now the Dems will be forced to compromise, where before they refused, thus delaying the process. Eventually, an expanded S-CHIP program will be passed, just like the President wanted, but not nearly as broad as that desired by the Moveonocrats.”
Comment by TCDon
I see all the big strong trolls are hanging out at the kid-bashing thread.
With the slow-motion conservative trainwreck still piling-up cars, it’s predictable of jr. high mentalities such as yours.
October 20th, 2007 at 4:30 pmJust like a “Leftyâ€: To wonder why someone should pay their own way if they can afford it, rather than live off the sweat and toil of those who do.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Oh, yes, Bigfoot-in-the-Mouth, The CEO’s who earn eight or nine figures a year really sweat and toil, don’t they? Particularly the ones who make more in one hour than the average American does in a year!
October 20th, 2007 at 5:35 pmThe Frosts and the Wilkerson families are America’s new heroes. See Olbermann’s interview with the parents of two-year-old heart surgery survivor Brittany Wilkerson, and you’ll see what I mean.
It is past time to join together to take our country back from the Neo-Con crooks & warmongers. Enough.
October 20th, 2007 at 8:41 pmWhat a courageous family, and what a lot of cowardly bullies Limbaugh, Malkin, etc. are.
I include in the latter the trolls in this thread, whose are hurt by the fact that the Frost kids have health care.
Yeah, let’s deny health coverage to the Frosts and many other American families like them. That should teach those darn kids to choose better parents next time.
“Let them eat cake!” is the right-wingers motto.
October 21st, 2007 at 4:20 am“After all, if the message is delivered by a child, you’re not allowed to question it, right? The Dems strategy failed. Now the Dems will be forced to compromise, where before they refused, thus delaying the process. Eventually, an expanded S-CHIP program will be passed, just like the President wanted, but not nearly as broad as that desired by the Moveonocrats.â€
Comment by TCDon
Would you prefer a braindead women or a severely developmentally disabled short term fetus who was forced to be born?
October 21st, 2007 at 5:09 pm#108 O. Bigfoot
If you are against people that can afford their own health care than why are we paying for the Senators and Represtative insurance?
They make $150,000 a year or more. We the Taxpayers are paying this. I think the congress should pay for their own health insurance.
We need to help the families that cann’t afford health insurance. The Republican don’t care about the poor or the middle class.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:06 amI want to live in a country where people take responsibility for themselves, and think and plan ahead. There is absolutely no reason why society should have to pay for some individuals poor lifestyle choices or lack of consideration for the future.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 22, 2007 @ 2:19 am
So, O. Bigfoot-in-the-Mouth, do you also want to live in a country where people working for the government are held responsible for letting $6 billion go missing in Iraq, where the current administration doesn’t keep on borrowing money (more than all previous administrations combined) from other countries to pay for a war, where military contractors are held accountable for shooting innocent civilians, etc?
October 22nd, 2007 at 6:27 pm