Comments on: Plame’s CIA job was to stop Iran from obtaining nukes. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:57:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Keith http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/comment-page-2/#comment-4128482 Keith Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:54:56 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/#comment-4128482 wayyy hotter than dana perino Comment by tombaker — October 21, 2007 @ 12:46 pm I loved it everytime they said she was "undercover". wayyy hotter than dana perino
Comment by tombaker — October 21, 2007 @ 12:46 pm

I loved it everytime they said she was “undercover”.

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/comment-page-2/#comment-4128213 Gregor Samsa Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:37:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/#comment-4128213 <i>You can choose to characterize your Bush policy as “utter incompentence”…but the facts are, pretty much everything George Bush has attempted to do as President he has succeeded in accomplishing, Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 22, 2007 @ 9:26 am</i> Oh, I didn't realise the chaos that Iraq has become, the rampant insurgency, the roughly 4million Iraqis displaced, the destruction of their infrastructure, and the American death toll were all premeditated by your Glorious Leader. I also didn't know the outing of a covert agent working on a highly sensitive mission, and the corruption scandal that has engulfed this White House could be construed as a "success" for the Bush administration. I guess you and I have different parameters to measure success and good leadership. You can choose to characterize your Bush policy as “utter incompentence”…but the facts are, pretty much everything George Bush has attempted to do as President he has succeeded in accomplishing,
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 22, 2007 @ 9:26 am

Oh, I didn’t realise the chaos that Iraq has become, the rampant insurgency, the roughly 4million Iraqis displaced, the destruction of their infrastructure, and the American death toll were all premeditated by your Glorious Leader.

I also didn’t know the outing of a covert agent working on a highly sensitive mission, and the corruption scandal that has engulfed this White House could be construed as a “success” for the Bush administration.

I guess you and I have different parameters to measure success and good leadership.

]]> By: Roger_Roger http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/comment-page-2/#comment-4128051 Roger_Roger Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:18:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/#comment-4128051 So Iran was looking for blueprints to make a Nuke Bomb. At least this proves they are looking to make "the bomb". This proves we have no choice but to stop them since they are actively building a bomb. So Iran was looking for blueprints to make a Nuke Bomb. At least this proves they are looking to make “the bomb”. This proves we have no choice but to stop them since they are actively building a bomb.

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/comment-page-2/#comment-4127944 Gregor Samsa Mon, 22 Oct 2007 07:41:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/#comment-4127944 Obviously our friend Bigfoot still hasn't got his little mind around the concept of obstruction of justice. The paranoid rants about someone wanting to "get" the Bush administration are laughable. As if anyone needed to fabricate <i>anything</i>, any evidence at all to show the utter incompetence rampant in this White House. Yeah, someone is trying to make Pres Bush "look bad" because he doesn't do enough to look bad all by himself. Right. Obviously our friend Bigfoot still hasn’t got his little mind around the concept of obstruction of justice.

The paranoid rants about someone wanting to “get” the Bush administration are laughable. As if anyone needed to fabricate anything, any evidence at all to show the utter incompetence rampant in this White House.

Yeah, someone is trying to make Pres Bush “look bad” because he doesn’t do enough to look bad all by himself. Right.

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/comment-page-2/#comment-4127916 Gregor Samsa Mon, 22 Oct 2007 03:17:42 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/#comment-4127916 <i>Dont you know a trap when you see one? Comment by Billy Hill — October 21, 2007 @ 9:58 pm</i> I know a troll when I see one. And I am looking at one right now. A troll who has nothing better to do with his life than to defend an administration that outed a covert agent in the middle of a very sensitive mission, compromising national security. Way to go Billy Hill. Now make my day and tell me "libruls" are "weak" on national security. That's be a hoot. Dont you know a trap when you see one?
Comment by Billy Hill — October 21, 2007 @ 9:58 pm

I know a troll when I see one. And I am looking at one right now.

A troll who has nothing better to do with his life than to defend an administration that outed a covert agent in the middle of a very sensitive mission, compromising national security.

Way to go Billy Hill. Now make my day and tell me “libruls” are “weak” on national security. That’s be a hoot.

]]> By: Bad Eye http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/comment-page-2/#comment-4127890 Bad Eye Mon, 22 Oct 2007 02:18:13 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/#comment-4127890 <em>Dont you know a trap when you see one? Comment by Billy Hill — October 21, 2007 @ 9:58 pm</em> No, but I know an assh*le when I see one, and you'd be wise not to pull "facts" from the same part of your body. Dont you know a trap when you see one?

Comment by Billy Hill — October 21, 2007 @ 9:58 pm

No, but I know an assh*le when I see one, and you’d be wise not to pull “facts” from the same part of your body.

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/comment-page-2/#comment-4127877 Gregor Samsa Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:47:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/#comment-4127877 <i>Plame was a failure thats why she had to be “outed” Comment by Billy Hill — October 21, 2007 @ 9:19 pm</i> This is one of the most ridiculous, moronic statements I've read in a long time. So she <i>had</i> to be outed, and national security <i>had</i> to be compromised? Ridiculous. Plame was a failure thats why she had to be “outed”
Comment by Billy Hill — October 21, 2007 @ 9:19 pm

This is one of the most ridiculous, moronic statements I’ve read in a long time.

So she had to be outed, and national security had to be compromised? Ridiculous.

]]> By: rehbock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/comment-page-2/#comment-4127652 rehbock Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:36:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/#comment-4127652 How can this country hope to stop Iran if we can't stop ourselves. It is past time to impeach the psychopath in chief and his vice. Only if we have a sane administration we can begin to address whether and what real threats we face. Only if we demonstrate that this country is no longer in the hands of the fascists will other countries feel they can trust us enough to put their resources to peaceful use. How can this country hope to stop Iran if we can’t stop ourselves. It is past time to impeach the psychopath in chief and his vice. Only if we have a sane administration we can begin to address whether and what real threats we face. Only if we demonstrate that this country is no longer in the hands of the fascists will other countries feel they can trust us enough to put their resources to peaceful use.

]]> By: tombaker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/comment-page-2/#comment-4127634 tombaker Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:46:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/#comment-4127634 wayyy hotter than dana perino, and not a congenital liar - that Joe Wilson is one lucky fella. no wonder the righties targeted them - look at the wives those jokers have to drag around. wayyy hotter than dana perino, and not a congenital liar – that Joe Wilson is one lucky fella. no wonder the righties targeted them – look at the wives those jokers have to drag around.

]]> By: ForTruth http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/comment-page-2/#comment-4127629 ForTruth Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:36:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/#comment-4127629 I like how the news can come out and say the Bush admin. outed this woman. How come they get away with it? And talk about a total package, holy shite!! I like how the news can come out and say the Bush admin. outed this woman. How come they get away with it?

And talk about a total package, holy shite!!

]]> By: Katie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/comment-page-2/#comment-4127623 Katie Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:11:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/#comment-4127623 With this new information clarifying Plame's role, certainly this underlines the criminal actions the WH took by outing her, and is directly related to the ability of Iran to obtain nukes. So tell me again why this is not grounds for impeachment? But more curious and frustrating to me, is why Plame didn't say this immediately after all the attacks on her that she was a desk clerk and pencil pusher? Why not come out and slam back down on the repubs and show them for the liars and traiters they really are? This happens time and time again...the rebuttal comes late, and quiet. Plame and Joe could have been revealed as the patriots and even heros that they really were. Much more so than the shady figures for the Republican side like Oliver North. It is important to build heros on our side, on off years, so that when the elections come around the feeling is underlying and not cerebral for the voters. Voters are not cerebral, they vote with their gut. And if we don't help them with their gut all year round, if we let the fascists portray good americans as traiters, if we let them make liberal, progressive, democrat and independent dirty words.....then don't be surprised if every election is a struggle. With this new information clarifying Plame’s role, certainly this underlines the criminal actions the WH took by outing her, and is directly related to the ability of Iran to obtain nukes. So tell me again why this is not grounds for impeachment? But more curious and frustrating to me, is why Plame didn’t say this immediately after all the attacks on her that she was a desk clerk and pencil pusher? Why not come out and slam back down on the repubs and show them for the liars and traiters they really are? This happens time and time again…the rebuttal comes late, and quiet.

Plame and Joe could have been revealed as the patriots and even heros that they really were. Much more so than the shady figures for the Republican side like Oliver North. It is important to build heros on our side, on off years, so that when the elections come around the feeling is underlying and not cerebral for the voters. Voters are not cerebral, they vote with their gut. And if we don’t help them with their gut all year round, if we let the fascists portray good americans as traiters, if we let them make liberal, progressive, democrat and independent dirty words…..then don’t be surprised if every election is a struggle.

]]> By: Bad Eye http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/comment-page-2/#comment-4127606 Bad Eye Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:05:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/#comment-4127606 <em>Go ahead, trolls, tell us how again how Plame’s status wasn’t covert and classified. Even though the CIA certified it to Congress. Even though Patrick Fitzgerald presented it as fact in U.S. Federal Court filings. Go ahead, trolls, defend the Office of the Vice President for revealing this information and destroying this critical intelligence program. Go ahead, trolls, and defend the President for letting the traitor Scooter Libby go free after his conviction for lying to protect the Dick Cheney from charges of treason. Comment by VerbalKint — October 20, 2007 @ 3:50 pm</em> Yeah, but I'm sure Drudge has "proven" that all the things you say are not true, so there. (snark!) Go ahead, trolls, tell us how again how Plame’s status wasn’t covert and classified. Even though the CIA certified it to Congress. Even though Patrick Fitzgerald presented it as fact in U.S. Federal Court filings. Go ahead, trolls, defend the Office of the Vice President for revealing this information and destroying this critical intelligence program. Go ahead, trolls, and defend the President for letting the traitor Scooter Libby go free after his conviction for lying to protect the Dick Cheney from charges of treason.

Comment by VerbalKint — October 20, 2007 @ 3:50 pm

Yeah, but I’m sure Drudge has “proven” that all the things you say are not true, so there.

(snark!)

]]> By: Above the Clouds http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/comment-page-2/#comment-4127571 Above the Clouds Sun, 21 Oct 2007 11:35:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/#comment-4127571 Only in GOP-Land does it make sense that Scooter Libby was indicted, tried, and found guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice then pardoned because Valerie Plame was a "pencil pusher" at the CIA. Only in GOP-Land does it make sense that Scooter Libby was indicted, tried, and found guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice then pardoned because Valerie Plame was a “pencil pusher” at the CIA.

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/comment-page-2/#comment-4127548 Gregor Samsa Sun, 21 Oct 2007 07:46:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/#comment-4127548 Yet another lie ("Plame was just a paper pusher at the CIA, she wasn't a covert agent!") that has been laid to rest. For anyone and everyone who happens to have half of a half-working brain, that is. This won't stop the "conservative" visitors to this site from repeating the same old debunked lies, and the same tired falsehoods about Plame, and everything else this administration has lied about. Because I know that even in spite of this latest revelation, they won't drop their allegiance to their Glorious Leader. Poor saps. Although I find it hard to feel sorry for such happily willing fascists. Yet another lie (”Plame was just a paper pusher at the CIA, she wasn’t a covert agent!”) that has been laid to rest. For anyone and everyone who happens to have half of a half-working brain, that is.

This won’t stop the “conservative” visitors to this site from repeating the same old debunked lies, and the same tired falsehoods about Plame, and everything else this administration has lied about.

Because I know that even in spite of this latest revelation, they won’t drop their allegiance to their Glorious Leader. Poor saps. Although I find it hard to feel sorry for such happily willing fascists.

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/comment-page-2/#comment-4127517 Marie Sun, 21 Oct 2007 04:11:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/#comment-4127517 Sorry for the multiple posts, here, but I just got home -- frankly, impeachment is not harsh enough for Bush/Cheney. They are criminals. No less than the worst of them behind bars today -- they are criminals! They should be in jail. They should be tried at home for treason and in the Hague for war crimes. They are criminals. Innocent till proven guilty? They ARE proven guilty. The mounting evidence tells it all. They are criminals. Sorry for the multiple posts, here, but I just got home –
frankly, impeachment is not harsh enough for Bush/Cheney. They are criminals. No less than the worst of them behind bars today — they are criminals! They should be in jail. They should be tried at home for treason and in the Hague for war crimes. They are criminals.
Innocent till proven guilty? They ARE proven guilty. The mounting evidence tells it all. They are criminals.

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/comment-page-2/#comment-4127515 Marie Sun, 21 Oct 2007 04:03:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/#comment-4127515 If anyone still has doubts about the sinister capabilities of Dick Cheney -- like being behind this Iran/Plame/Wilson episode, they need only review his career on the PBS Cheney documentary that aired this past week. No more doubts. If anyone still has doubts about the sinister capabilities of Dick Cheney — like being behind this Iran/Plame/Wilson episode, they need only review his career on the PBS Cheney documentary that aired this past week. No more doubts.

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/comment-page-1/#comment-4127513 Marie Sun, 21 Oct 2007 03:57:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/#comment-4127513 #4 bilbobaggins says: So, did they expose Valerie Plame to get back at her husband Joe Wilson or did they expose her to disrupt the secret mission she was on to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon? Either scenario is horrifying. And one or both of them is what happened. I think he is entirely correct. This was a proverbial killing of two birds with one stone. Discredit Joe Wilson for exposing Bush's lies, while destroying the Brewster-Jennings covert front, giving Darth Cheney additional time to prepare for the attack on Iran. #4 bilbobaggins says:
So, did they expose Valerie Plame to get back at her husband Joe Wilson or did they expose her to disrupt the secret mission she was on to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon? Either scenario is horrifying. And one or both of them is what happened.

I think he is entirely correct. This was a proverbial killing of two birds with one stone. Discredit Joe Wilson for exposing Bush’s lies, while destroying the Brewster-Jennings covert front, giving Darth Cheney additional time to prepare for the attack on Iran.

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/comment-page-1/#comment-4127491 katy Sun, 21 Oct 2007 01:26:38 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/#comment-4127491 <em>Plame’s CIA job was to stop Iran from obtaining nukes. </em> ha! knew it! ... even told ya so! well, not about the "stop" part maybe, but figured she had a role in the nuke program and that's why cheney wanted her out of there... he didn't want the truth to get in his way... wow... Plame’s CIA job was to stop Iran from obtaining nukes.

ha! knew it! … even told ya so!
well, not about the “stop” part maybe, but figured she had a role in the nuke program and that’s why cheney wanted her out of there…
he didn’t want the truth to get in his way…

wow…

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/comment-page-1/#comment-4127485 MapleStreet Sun, 21 Oct 2007 01:15:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/#comment-4127485 I'm beyond words and can only echo from the above. S It was bad enough that a covert operative was outed. It was worse that it appears to be a calculated move by senior WH staff. BUT NOW...... SO!! YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT PLAME WAS DELIVERING FAKE NUKE PLANS TO IRAN. SO!! WHEN SHE WAS OUTED, IRAN INSTANTLY WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT WHAT SHE SUPPLIED WAS FAKE! SO!! NOW SHRUB IS USING IRAN NUKES AS A REASON TO START HINTING AT WW III. THIS IS PLAIN TREASON. AND **YES** I KNOW I AM YELLING ! I’m beyond words and can only echo from the above. S

It was bad enough that a covert operative was outed. It was worse that it appears to be a calculated move by senior WH staff. BUT NOW……

SO!! YOU’RE TELLING ME THAT PLAME WAS DELIVERING FAKE NUKE PLANS TO IRAN. SO!! WHEN SHE WAS OUTED, IRAN INSTANTLY WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT WHAT SHE SUPPLIED WAS FAKE! SO!! NOW SHRUB IS USING IRAN NUKES AS A REASON TO START HINTING AT WW III.

THIS IS PLAIN TREASON. AND **YES** I KNOW I AM YELLING !

]]> By: Badmoodman http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/comment-page-1/#comment-4127482 Badmoodman Sun, 21 Oct 2007 01:04:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/20/plames-cia-job-was-to-stop-iran-from-obtaining-nukes/#comment-4127482 I think <strong>Plunger</strong> was the guy booted from the audience of Maher's HBO show last night. I think Plunger was the guy booted from the audience of Maher’s HBO show last night.

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