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Worst. President. Ever.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:35 amI think if he tries hard enough, he’ll be able to limbo under 20 before leaving office.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:36 amIt’s really nerdy to type incomplete sentences like that, just say “Mr. Bush is no longer a President of the United States, he is the President of Special Interest and Social Conservatives.”
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:36 amLimbo lower now
limbo lower now
how low can you go?
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:37 amDon’t we do this dance every week? A troll will now post some low figure for the “democrat-controlled” congress. Then someone else will disprove that figure. Then someone else will post links to pollingreport.com showing that the Republicans in Congress are the ones dragging the figure down.
Ready for the dance, everyone? Uh-one-two, one-two…
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:38 am“how low can you go?”
Comment by Uncle Ho
Got a shovel?
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:40 amBut man alive, that last 25% is going to be hard to crack. Granite hard support, as one pundit put it. The problem with the final 25% is that they are completely non-responsive to facts or reason.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:40 amHere in Seattle he is in the low teens, if that.
War Criminals are just not that well liked here for some reason.
Buck Fush
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:42 amthey failed to say that there is a 24% margin of error.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:42 amChimpy has broken yet another record.
The record for largest poll swing in a U.S. president used to belong to Harry Truman, who went from 87% popularity to 23% (the all-time worst number), for a swing of 64%.
Chimpy has managed to piss away all the goodwill he had immediately following 9/11 (90% approval rating) and turn it into this dismal 25%, for a swing of 65%!
Well done, Mr. President!
And remember, he’s got plenty of time to shed three more percentage points, to make him the all-time most disapproved President ever!
We’re all pulling for you, Chimpy.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:45 am“The problem with the final 25% is that they are completely non-responsive to facts or reason.”
Comment by VerbalKint — October 22
But not money. The dems should proffer a huge tax-cut that will take effect only after we redeploy out of Iraq.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:45 amWhat percentage of the population is employed by the Republican party or Republican office holders or are related to somebody who is? You have to think self preservation is part of this 25% because that’s lot of brain dead people.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:45 am…I’m freeeeeeeee – free fallin’ …
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:45 amEven if it were 1%, Bush would continue acting as though he had a giant mandate and enormous legitimacy, photo-opping and smirking his way across America with his hand-picked select audiences of Chimp Fluffers.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:45 amWhat? My polls suck? Dick, get your WW III started!
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:46 amAnd why does the Congress act as if he still has that post-911 approval rating of 90% instead of the lame duck lack of consequence he really is??
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:49 amCall David Broder, the Bush Bounce is in full effect!
Hooray!
-GSD
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:50 amSorry to go off-topic, but the Iraqi deputy prime minister is now on C-Span, talking about the “progress” in Iraq. He uses the same debunked assertion, that Anbar is less violent because the surge is working. I can almost see Cheney’s hand sticking out his ass…
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:51 amI always love these poll numbers threads. They contain the most Bush Cult members.
Heeeere trolly trolls!
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:55 amWhat the others have said, the poll numbers are meaningless. The Republicans in Congress are still obstructing any meaningful legislation, impeachment is still “off the table”, and Bush is still getting everything he wants.
Business as usual.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:55 am#5 – Totally agree…doesn’t really matter, because Bush’s handlers never let him see or read anything negative. It is easy to see how he can be so upbeat, I could be too if I could just stop reading.
At least in Nixon’s day there were still some Republicans with ethics who hustled him out the door. Really telling about the GOP’s morals and ethics now. There aren’t ANY !
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:59 amBusiness as usual.
Precisely right! We need to clean up our own house first. And that means identifying and targeting Bush Dog Democrats and ridding the party of them. If we can’t force out the enablers and pu$$ies, then I think we will need to start a new party.
It’s not about Democrats and Republicans anymore, since too many of the Democrats are either in the pocket of the corporations, Republican b1tches or both. It’s The Establishment vs The People. It’s time we all recognized that. Democrat vs Republican and even Left vs Right is a sideshow. The Establishment has taken over control and is trying to permanently mute any political power that normal people have left.
http://www.leftopia.blogspot.com
October 22nd, 2007 at 12:04 pmYou can quote all the polls you want, but elections are the pin that bursts libs bubble. Niki Tsongas only won by a slim amount in a district that gave John Kerry 15% lead, and Louisiana just elected a Republican governor against 11 other candidates, with no need for a run-off election.
The affects of Congress’s behaviour, who are now firmly associated with Nanci Pelosi and Harry Reid (remember how you tried to hide them for the 3 weeks prior to their election?), are clearly being realized in these elections. I can only hope and pray that Reid and Pelosi try to fight Bush over the budget and other items, where they will seal the fate of the Dems in 2008.
As I said before, 2006 was premature electionation…..
October 22nd, 2007 at 12:08 pmBush’s approval rating is in the toilet. And it has been for quite some time — the only people “approving” of his performance are the small handful who benefit directly from the corrupt practices of this administration, and a somewhat larger handful of people who pay absolutely no attention to anything going on in the world but Bush-is-a-Republican-and-our-family-has-always-supported-Republicans. Oh — and the wingnut dittoheads.
The real story here isn’t the number-of-the-week. Bush tends to fluctuate a few points up or down depending on the week and depending on the poll. No, the real story here is that the last time a poll showed more approval of Bush’s performance than disapproval was in December 2005 — ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO (a poll from Diageo/Hotline conducted December 12-13, 2005 showed 50% Bush approval and 47% Bush disapproval). All other polls for the past two years show Bush’s disapproval rating greater than his approval rating — with the disapproval rating being as much as 39 points higher.
No other president in history has had ratings that bad for that long (and it’s entirely possible that no president has cared as little, or has had as much contempt for the will of the people).
October 22nd, 2007 at 12:10 pmNo other president in history has had ratings that bad for that long (and it’s entirely possible that no president has cared as little, or has had as much contempt for the will of the people).
And yet we can’t seem to remove him. THIS is why Congress has a microscopic approval rating, trolls.
October 22nd, 2007 at 12:14 pm“Chimpy has managed to piss away all the goodwill he had immediately following 9/11 (90% approval rating)…”
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — October 22, 2007 @ 11:45 am
A proud 10%-er!
“Bush’s approval rating is in the toilet. And it has been for quite some time —the only people “approving†of his performance are…”
Comment by missmolly — October 22, 2007 @ 12:10 pm
TURDS!
October 22nd, 2007 at 12:19 pm“No other president in history has had ratings that bad for that long”
It doesn’t matter. Lefty’s correct. We don’t have two parties in this country, not really. The Democrats and the Republicans both, primarily, represent corporate interests. What we have are the Money Party (huge, consisting of virtually all Republicans and lots of Democrats, including Hillary and Obama) and the People Party (Brown of Ohio and Sanders of Vermont come to mind).
So the poll numbers are meaningless, a shell game, designed to distract us.
October 22nd, 2007 at 12:19 pmWe’ve come a long way from embedded reporters streaming shots of dust clouds from humvees on their way to a “two-week war.” Five years later, absolutely nothing that was declared a priority entering this conflict has been achieved.
Bush took the goodwill of the world, a Federal monopoly, and a healthy military, and lit a match to it just to watch it burn. The Republicans should be at least as displeased with him as the Democrats, if not more so.
October 22nd, 2007 at 12:26 pmSupposedly 19% of the population suffers from mental illness, what is the excuse of the other 6%?
October 22nd, 2007 at 12:29 pmHere’s the best that a 24%er can come up with to this point:
LividLib said : “A proud 10%er!” and “TURDS!”
That’s the sum total of its response. Is that pathetic or what?
LividLib, I think it’s been explained to you before, but since you’re obviously a little slow on the uptake, I’ll go over it for you again:
You’re a “24%er” because you support Bush, no matter what he does or says.
By the same token, a “10%er” would presumably be one who supports the Congress no matter what. Are we clear so far?
Note that a “10%er” is one who supports THE CONGRESS, not “the democrat congress”, since Congressional Democrats get considerably higher approval ratings than Congressional Republicans, and the 10% (11%, actually) applies to the Congress as a WHOLE.
And the “10%er” label you favor certainly doesn’t apply to Democrats in general, since they have nearly as negative a view of Congress as Republicans and Independents. And almost no progressive on this forum thinks Congress is doing a good job.
So just quit it. It makes you look really, really stupid. You don’t want people to think you’re really, really stupid, do you?
October 22nd, 2007 at 12:36 pmSlightly less popular then Herpes simplex.
October 22nd, 2007 at 12:42 pm. . . than Herpes simplex
October 22nd, 2007 at 12:43 pmrtwl,
you misunderstood.
my comment “a proud 10%-er” was in reference to the 10% who did NOT support Bush immediately following 9/11. i never supported the SOB and never will!
My response, “TURDS” was to paraphrase missmolly’s previous comment, “Bush’s approval rating is in the toilet. And it has been for quite some time —the only people “approving†of his performance are…â€
what i was saying is that those who continue to approve of dumbass are TURDS.
i’m on your side, dude!
October 22nd, 2007 at 12:47 pmWow. That is truly a frightening statistic.
This means that if you’re stuck in an elevator with three other people, the statistical likelihood is that one of those people thinks that this president is doing A-OK.
That is FAR too many, as far as I’m concerned.
October 22nd, 2007 at 12:48 pmWhere are the trolls? They usually get really lathered up about polls like this on TP.
October 22nd, 2007 at 12:51 pmLividLib:
my apologies.
I had you confused with someone else.
October 22nd, 2007 at 12:59 pmAnybody want to place a bid on what the next go-round of Bushy polls will be.
I say he will get down to 20 percent next time they are done.
He is gonna do a 2 and a half off the 30 ft platform into a pool of Iraq money.
October 22nd, 2007 at 1:02 pmIt’s a fitting culmination for the Republican Revolution.
October 22nd, 2007 at 1:14 pmQuestion:
Inevitably some jackass is going to mention low congressional approval ratings…A while back I saw someone post a reference to a Washington Post (?) poll that broke out congressional approval ratings by Democratic Congress vs. Republican Congress (higher and lower respectively). Does anybody know if this is tracked contiously, or was that a one-time poll? I’d love to keep my eye on that…any point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
October 22nd, 2007 at 1:15 pmUh-oh . . .
Here comes another terrah-ist attack on the United States.
This time they’ll claim it’s Iran that’s responsible.
October 22nd, 2007 at 1:39 pmSay hello, trolls.
October 22nd, 2007 at 1:41 pmDoes anybody know if this is tracked contiously, or was that a one-time poll? I’d love to keep my eye on that…any point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
Comment by mocha — October 22, 2007 @ 1:15 pm
Here’s the link to PollingReport’s congressional approval summary table. You can click up at the top on either “Congress: Democrats” or “Congress: Republicans” to see results from polls making that differentiation.
http://www.pollingreport.com/CongJob.htm
October 22nd, 2007 at 1:45 pmMy response, “TURDS†was to paraphrase missmolly’s previous comment, “Bush’s approval rating is in the toilet…”
Comment by LividLib — October 22, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
Honestly, between this thread and the Blackwater Logo thread (around post #30), my posts have been more scatological than they usually are. I’ll try to climb out of the outhouse and make more intelligent comments — although perhaps references to potties and excrement is about all we have left to describe this administration and the Iraq situation.
October 22nd, 2007 at 1:53 pmthanks missmolly
October 22nd, 2007 at 2:01 pmDoes this mean that 25 percent of the population is evangelical extremist?
How can so few have so much power without something underhanded going on?
I live in Texas and the only people I know that like Bush have a job related to war.
Jack Jett
October 22nd, 2007 at 4:17 pmIt’s not about Democrats and Republicans anymore, since too many of the Democrats are either in the pocket of the corporations, Republican b1tches or both. It’s The Establishment vs The People. It’s time we all recognized that. Democrat vs Republican and even Left vs Right is a sideshow. The Establishment has taken over control and is trying to permanently mute any political power that normal people have left.
http://www.leftopia.blogspot.com
Comment by lefty — October 22, 2007 @ 12:04 pm
This is exactly what was being said in 1967-1969. Johnson was as hated as Nixon. It was the “straights/squares” vs
October 22nd, 2007 at 5:51 pm“heads”. In theory, the left is supposed to be for the People, but when I hear Hillary being a “Liberal”, I want to puke. The Establishment was and still is the same.
Jack, job-related political opinions are some of the most rigid. As Sinclaire Lewis pointed out, it’s hard to get a man to agree with something when his paycheck depends upon disagreeing.
But, also, as John Dean has pointed out in “Conservatives Without a Conscience,” there is a personality type, called the “authoritarian personality,” that is held by somewhere between 20 and 25% of the population. These people feel compelled to follow a leader without question and often need a strong leader to feel comfortable. They also tend to be more sociopathic and narcisistic than the general population.
October 22nd, 2007 at 5:54 pmI hate to bring the bad news, but until we make a fundamental change to the way we run elections, NO candidate from any party can be successful without at least some corporate money. The fact that both major partys’ candidates both feed from the corporate slop bowl is important, but it doesn’t in any mean that there are no differences between the parties. On virtually every issue, the Democratic candidates reflect much more closely the will of the people than do any of the Repubs. The most conservative of the Dems, possibly Biden and Clinton, are far more progressive than the most liberal of the Repub candidates.
So, please, fellow lefties, in 2008 let’s have a little bit less of this “lesser of two evils” blather or “there’s no difference” nonsense. That kind of talk is right there on the list of reasons why we got Bush.
October 22nd, 2007 at 6:00 pmThe facts are that we have a profoundly unpopular, but still strangely powerful president who is literally tearing down the repub party and the modern conservative movement almost single-handedly with his incompetence, his strange set of values, his string of patently obvious lies and his political philosophy which stands at odds with the vast majority of Americans on virtually every issue. He will be known as the most unpopular president since the onset of polling. It may be that military-industrial complex money is what keeps the vast majority of repub reps and senators in Bush’s corner, but it doesn’t matter. They’re through. Their movement is over.
ANY Democratic candidate will at least begin to withdraw from Iraq. Any of them will work for universal health coverage. Almost any of them will re-evaluate NAFTA (even Hillary has suggested this.) All of them will approve of Stem cell funding legislation. All of them would fully fund the SCHIP program. All of them would strengthen environmental regulations and rebuild FEMA with competent public servants. Any of them would sign legislation reversing the Bush tax breaks for the wealthiest of us. On and on. There is a difference between the Democratic and Republican parties.
October 22nd, 2007 at 6:43 pmCol. Jack, I enjoy reading your posts. You provide well-thought answers that make sense. Thanks to all of you regular posters also. I’ve only been reading, and occasionally posting to TP for a short time, but I’ve enjoyed it thoroughly.
Oh, and just in case you’re wondering…the FTW stands for Fort Worth, not an expletive!!! (even though this adminstration has made me feel like they said “FTW” to all of us!)
October 22nd, 2007 at 7:57 pmYou twenty- five percent’ers, I hear chimpy is going to slaughter a litter of puppies on the White House lawn tomorrow… better get over there and practice your talking points!
October 23rd, 2007 at 10:08 pm