Conservatives boo the American public.
By on Oct 22nd, 2007 at 9:41 am
Conservatives boo the American public.
During a GOP presidential debate last night, Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) said, “I think the American people — if we as a party realize this and understand it — seventy-some percent of the people in America want the war over with. They’re sick and tired of it. And they want our troops to come home.” Paul was immediately drowned out by a chorus of boos from the audience. Watch it:
UPDATE: Carpetbagger has more from the debate.
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he should’ve added “clinton” in there somewhere…
seems that’s all they’ve got:
Florida Debate Centers on Direction of GOP and Hillary Clinton
ABC News – 1 hour ago
[...]
GOP Hopefuls Aim Attacks At Clinton
CBS News
from the google news front page…
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:45 amWould you expect anything different from the kool-aid drinkers? They are all programmed to think this occupation of Iraq is somehow a good thing. Why, I don’t know. How can occupying a country against their own will ever be a good thing? How can occupying a country against their own will ever be conceived as a way to prevent terrorism?
I know that when Bush appears somewhere, the guests are screened for their level of kool-aid drinking, do they do the same thing with the guests they allow in to listen to these “debates”? I put the word debates in quotes because they are in no way a debate. They are just 60 minutes of talking points.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:47 amConsider the venue….
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:48 amKaty…you should have seen CNN this morning. Their debate ‘coverage’ was a montage of each candidate taking a shot at Hillary. Except Ron Paul, who was missing from their coverage completely. Pathetic and transparent.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:50 amI’d love to know how many of the booers were collecting paychecks for that night’s work…
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:50 amGOP Hopefuls Aim Attacks At Clinton
CBS News
Hillary must be lapping up all this free publicity. The Republicans are attacking only Hillary because they want the Democrats to be sympathetic towards her and defend her. The Republicans want Hillary to be the nominee because they think she is the easiest to beat. I disagree with them. A sock who called itself a Democrat could beat any of the Republican candidates except maybe Ron Paul. There are still some confused Democrats and Independents who think Ron Paul is a good thing because of his stance on the war. Unfortunately they have not investigated his stand on other important issues. If they did, there is no way they would support him.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:50 amThis is good. The Republicans have isolated themselves and dumb*ss monkey followers inside a bullet-proof bubble. They simply cannot see that the party is heading off the cliff.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:50 amLemmings
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:52 amRon Paul will never get the GOP nomination. He is a non-factor. If he were to get the nomination, people would quickly learn how far out in left field he is.
None of the GOP contenders stands a chance in the general election. They are all freaks.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:53 amI guess the Fox screeners were successful in keeping out the Ron Paul supporters that swamped previous GOP debates, this time.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:53 amTrip @ 4,
A good question. I’d also like to know what percentage of the audience are living off the war.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:53 amThe audience consisted of…
‘Super Secret Selected Citizens’.
Meanwhile, Fruity Rudy was on his knees (again), kow towing to
Christian Conservatives that he really, really, really believes in God.
Even though he’s had more wives than Mitt’s Grandpa and is deeply
connected to NYC’s mob entities, Rudy has become holy.
Holy cow, Rudy, we just found out that Ann Coulter doesn’t exist;
it’s just Rudy in drag!
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:57 amWhich goes to show how this audience was most likely screened to make sure only members of the 24% got in. Even Repubs who oppose the war in Iraq (and there are plenty of them) either didn’t make the cut or kept their mouths shut.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:59 amWell, there’s the proof of the antimerican right wing, in living color (white, of course) with sound as well. 76% of Americans are hated by the koolaid-guzzlers. You’d think they would all want to move to Iran.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:01 amRepublicans have an ally in RADICAL ISLAM….
think about it.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:02 amI’d love to know how many of the booers were collecting paychecks for that night’s work…
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — October 22, 2007 @ 9:50 am
Ah — good point. You think maybe some of them are repeaters — having participated in the staged demonstrations that disrupted the hand ballot counting in Florida in 2000?
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:05 amI swear these GOPers don’t know what they want. The poll for the winner of the debate that FOX took right after went to who……RON PAUL!
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:07 amConsider the venue….
Comment by Veritas —
Exactly.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:07 amOrlando.
Dizzy World.
Anita Bryant was probably serving the orange kool-aid.
This is just sick.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:11 amThe republican sycophants in the audience booed a comment that the majority of Americans want the war to end.
They are blinded by their partisanship; they have lost their ability to think clearly. They have become the warmongering class, who have set themselves apart from the rest of America.
They have spent a minimum of 7 years strongly defending Bush&Co and their extremely outrageous actions, that doing so is now part of their collective persona – they think alike. They have become one.
They are one monolithic block of protoplasm, thinking and reacting as one.
They’re right-wing authoritarians. They get frightened when they hear something that questions their beliefs. And like any frightened animal, they lash out when cornered.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:11 amDid anyone estimate the number of minorities in the audience?
Where were the people that disrupted Bill Mahr’s show Friday night?
Why are they choosing Mahr’s venue, when they should have been in
Florida?
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:12 amWhich goes to show how this audience was most likely screened to make sure only members of the 24% got in. Even Repubs who oppose the war in Iraq (and there are plenty of them) either didn’t make the cut or kept their mouths shut.
Comment by missmolly — October 22, 2007 @ 9:59 am
If the 24%er defection continues to happen, they will be able to have the Repug debates and RNC convention in the Larry Craig Memorial Men’s Room at the MPLS Airport! And still have room left over!
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:12 ammissmolly sez:
I’d dearly love to have the resources to be able to obtain video records of everyone at these events, as well at protests and demonstrations, and then run it through some facial-recognition software, so we could see some correlations. I bet the results would be most enlightening.
Of course, the government possesses these resources and technology, and are already leveraging them in the manner I alluded to. Unfortunately, their motives are much more sinister than mere idle curiosity…
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:13 amRon Paul stopped forced psychiatric exams on women and children.
Republicans should thank their lucky stars for that.
That was Bush’s grand scheme lol.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:14 amWere they saying Boo or Boo-urns?
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:17 am//laughs at #26
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:19 amHe says that we should get rid of the federal reserve system.
[...]
Comment by criticalthinker — October 22, 2007 @ 10:13 am
and replace it with WHAT?
just like the IRS…
there has to be SOME way to collect and disperse funds…
some beurocracy to keep track of it all…
that wish is a pipe dream, at best…
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:19 am…
Polls are not about the question as much as they are about how the question is worded.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 22, 2007 @ 10:14 am
You’re right. Ask Americans how many want to win the war in Iraq if it means another decade there & a trillion $. Ask if they want to leave it a stable, free democracy at the cost of 5,000 more American lives. Everyone wants the victory, but not at any cost. At this point the cost in terms of $ and lives is unlimited. No end in sight. And that’s fine by the Reps.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:19 amOver 70 percent of Americans would NEVER HAD SUPPORTED A WAR TO “MAKE IRAQ A FREE, DEMOCRATIC, NATION”. Especially if you told them the costs.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:23 am#30 – Indeed, if the Americans would have supported this as has been claimed, then why did Bush and co. feel it was necessary to hide this from the American people when they were drumming up support for the war?
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:25 amOver 70 percent of Americans support a safe redeployment of troops over losing another 4,000 American Soldiers and spending another 1 trillion dollars.
Bigfoot, you forget that making Iraq a “stable, free, democratic nation” is not a quick, nor easy. Yeah, I would be for a stable, free democratic Iraq – but I am not willing to do it at the end of a sword – violating their rights and having our military sacrifice their lives to impose martial law in a country around the world. At the same time, I am not willing to continue to help terrorist organizations recruit and create more anti-American sentiment.
You frame your question in a ridiculous fashion. It is like asking someone if they want $1,000,000 – but you forget to mention they will be shot in the head if they accept.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:29 amOver 70 percent of Americans want to win the war in Iraq, and leave it a stable, free, democratic nation. Over 70 percent of Americans DO NOT want to “cut and run†from Iraq. The list could go on and on.
Polls are not about the question as much as they are about how the question is worded.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 22, 2007 @ 10:14 am
Ah, here’s bigfoot to continue the repuke lies and bullshit. 24% and falling, bigfart. you’re in the small minority, and all of your blathering is going unheqrd by the vast majority of patriotic Americans who recognize when an illegal, immoral invasion has been SNAFUed by the deserter-in-chief and his draft-dodging string-puller. You become more irrelevant every hour.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:32 amThis will backfire on the Republican Party – BIG TIME.
Their hand-selected zealots in the audience have just put the nation on notice that they are rabid war mongers, and care nothing about the opinions of the VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICANS.
They have done more to define the Zealotry of the Republican Party than any opposing political ever could.
In fact – the “GOP” has been hijacked by Zionist idealogues with a RADICAL world view and agenda (Eretz Israel and world domination) – and do not represent true “Conservative” values found in members of both political parties.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:35 amHow come we heard boos? Anyone who booed should be over there fighting, regardless of age or health. You are never to old or disabled to be used as cannon fodder.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:36 amyou’re right, critical, i do not understand how the federal reserve system works… which is why i added “the IRS” to my comment…
please excuse…
still going to have to have SOMEthing…
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:37 amOver 70 percent of Americans want to win the war in Iraq, and leave it a stable, free, democratic nation. Over 70 percent of Americans DO NOT want to “cut and run†from Iraq. The list could go on and on.
Polls are not about the question as much as they are about how the question is worded.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 22, 2007 @ 10:14 am
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Do you have an actual source for these numbers, or is it just more nonsense you’re pulling out of your a*s?
Yes, I agree with you that a poll can be influenced by the wording of the question. If a pollster asked me “Do you want to create a stable democracy in Iraq if it can be done immediately without costing any more money, any more lives, and without p!ssing off Iraq or the rest of the world?” I would say yes, of course.
So let’s see your poll. I want to see how that question was worded, the actual results, and who conducted the poll.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:41 amRon Paul: Abortions for all!
Audience: Booooooooo.
Ron Paul: Abortions for none!
Audience: Booooooooo.
Ron Paul: Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others!
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:42 am“Noooo! We don’t want the troops to come home!”
this is what these consternos seem to be saying…
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:46 amI have to agree with Bush on one very tiny point, but a relevant one. I agree that the coward is a Uniter. Look at the polls, 76% of Americans are united in their disgust of Bush. Make me proud to be united with my fellow Americans.
I think the 24% is misleading too, a good number of them are willfully ignorant of Bush’s guano, they are just uninformed and being a R is something they inherited.
Bush would be even more of a uniter if these ignorant (and I don’t mean this in a pejorative sense) people were informed.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:48 amI suppose the audience was not seventy-some percent American.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:54 amA war waged on fabricated intelligence and outright lies. Billions of taxpayer dollars wasted on non-binding contracts to war profiteering contributors to the Republican Party. Our troops going into combat without essential protective gear and armored vehicles so that the wealthiest Americans can get tax breaks. Wounded soldiers going without proper care at home so that those tax cuts can be continued for ten years. America now the Number One enemy of the world because of the invasion of Iraq and our violations of human rights. A history of sacrifice by American service men and women all for nought while Bush dishonors America with his policies of torture, disregards international treaties paid for with the blood of Americans, and dismantles the Constitution that he believes is “nothing but a #%*damned piece of paper” anyway.
There can be only two reasons for Americans to continue to support this war: 1) their love and loyalty is not for America but for George W. Bush, and/or 2) they are making money from this war. I suspect the people who attend these debates and all other GOP functions are guilty of both.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:05 amBOOOooooooooo…
How dare a candidate tell Repubs/Conserves how it is rather than how they want it to be. Insight into the actual state of affairs will not stand!!!
OUT
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:10 amOF
TOUCH
What a childish reaction during a debate. But so very typical of a conservative….stick fingers in your ear, stick out your tongue and declare, not true, not true. And of course, Dorothy in Kansas that will wipe out the truth.
Doesn’t anyone else get sick of the Republicans and their immature tactics? And if they get caught, they run home crying. Just tall bullies all of them.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:13 amTo be fair, I doubt they were “booing the American public” as much as they were just not agreeing with Ron Paul.
I mean really… what sort of audience do you expect at a conservative debate? Thinking people? This is why Paul is never going to make the cut. When it comes to Iraq he is making sense, and is using facts as his guide. But that’s about all he has going in the thinking department. After that he’s pretty much conservative cow-towing all the way.
Watch the spin, you don’t want to become similar to conservative sites that spin so much they don’t know which way is truth. :)
~Dani
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:15 amBush and Co fooled many who should have been smarter. Jack Cafferty believed this impersonator of compassionate conservative. But he at least has seen through the charade.
Standing with Bush for many is the money they are pulling in, for others they can’t admit their idol is a sick psycho, they think he is protecting them. After all no attack in 6 years. However, we weren’t attacked for 8 years during Clinton’s term plus we had a strong economy and credibility Internationally.
I condemn Pelosi for not doing what she was voted in to do, impeach Bush and Cheney.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:19 amRon Paul needs to change parties, he might just come out a winner.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:20 amHow dumb. Have they gotten so drunk on the power of the emperor that they can’t face reality ?
1) Think of this for a 10 second sound bite for the election:
70% of the Americans want their toops home. BOOOOOO!!!
2) Even if you are for the staunchest neocon for keeping our troops in Iraq for perpetuity and expanding their range to include Iran and Syria. Even it that – the 70 % is a poll figure that must be considered in making strategy for the election.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:20 amthis is too funny.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:36 amI was saying Boo-urns
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:51 amBOO = the islamofacistamericahatingterristeverybodies are lurking, so you need the neocons in power
BOOO = you are an islamofacistlovingamericahatingunpatrioticnobody if you don’t believe it
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:53 amPlease correct me if I am wrong, because I am a life-long Democrat and I am seriously thinking about voting for him in the primary.
What information am I missing?
Comment by criticalthinker — October 22, 2007 @ 10:13 am
Holy cow, are you serious? Ron Paul has been endorsed by the Constitution party. This party is not to be mistaken with the Constitution itself. They are to the Constitution what Creationists are to the Bible. Paul believes in nearly pure libertarianism. He favors eliminating the income tax and nearly all regular government functions. He favors eliminating Medicare and Social Security. He is truly on the far fringe by any political reckoning. He only opposes the war because he believes in isolationism. The ONLY good thing he would do is end the war, but his foreign policy would be so crazy and misguided that it would probably cause further global instability. His prehistoric ideas on monetary policy would be even worse.
October 22nd, 2007 at 12:17 pmOver 70 percent of Americans want to win the war in Iraq, and leave it a stable, free, democratic nation. Over 70 percent of Americans DO NOT want to “cut and run†from Iraq. The list could go on and on.
Polls are not about the question as much as they are about how the question is worded.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 22, 2007 @ 10:14 am
Just pointing out here that Li’l Footie has absolutley NO problem distorting stats to make an artificial point (unlike the one on his head, which is real). Below is an example of Footie’s manipulation of stats.
“… The troops have drawn conclusions about fellow citizens back home. Asked why they think some Americans favor rapid U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq, 37% of troops serving there said those Americans are unpatriotic, while 20% believe people back home don’t believe a continued occupation will work.â€
Comment by O. Bigfoot — August 25, 2007 @ 6:13 pm
Since Little [ ] won’t link to his “sourceâ€, I found at least one of them for ya, folks. The above info is actually from a Zogby poll taken almost a yr and half ago (source below! ;-D!!). No wonder Little [ ] didn’t provide the reference. Don’t know where the rest of it comes from, but ** YAWN **, I think it’s safe to ignore Little [ ]’s “data†here.
Yer stats are about as real as yer nads… Footie.
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October 22nd, 2007 at 12:32 pmShillary Clinton is a Neo-Con in a Pantsuit.
Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are the only voices of reason amongst the constant drumbeat for War. And more War. And more War. And more War. And more War…
October 22nd, 2007 at 1:25 pm“He only opposes the war because he believes in isolationism.” That is the most awful quote I have ever seen on this site. Do some research before you speak so poorly against a man. The real isolationists are anyone that want to continue this foreign policy of nation building and policing the world. Other countries are isolating them selves from us because of this disastrous policy. Ron Paul speaks for peace and TRADING with all nations. HOW IS THAT BEING AN ISOLATIONIST? As far as an ancient monotary policy… you are wrong there too. Many other countries do not have a central bank. The money is printed by the government and the people have control over our interest rates and inflation instead of a PRIVATE bank. Also we don’t need an IRS if we get rid of the FED. The IRS is only paying back the interest that we owe on the money that the FED gave us. When the FED prints money its given to us on loan thats what creates the interest rates and determines how much the money is worth. Realize the FED makes a fortune when we go to war because it has to print insane amounts of money! We never had an IRS or FED before 1913… The federal government isn’t even supposed to tax us its all supposed to be done by state. Thats the way our forefathers intended us to run this country. Ron Paul wants to give freedom back to the individual and try to create peace in this world. How can any of you boo freedom, peace, and prosperity?
October 22nd, 2007 at 1:36 pmBigfoot: “Polls are not about the question as much as they are about how the question is worded.”
Bigfoot makes this statement after claiming that “70% want to win.” Again and again, bigfoot makes sweeping statements about “what Americans want” which are completely at odds with all statistical polling data. The latest CBS/Washington poll asks this:
“Do you approve or disapprove of the way Bush is handling the situation in Iraq?”
68% Disapproved & 30% approved
That’s a pretty easy question to answer, Bigfoot. No confusion there. Now, can you show us where you get your “70%” number?
October 22nd, 2007 at 2:48 pmRegardless of whether we CAN win or not, Americans, overwhelmingly, want to win this war.
And with the progress currently occuring in Iraq, the number of people who want to win will only increase throughout the rest of this year and next….bad news for Democrats.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 22, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
Where’s that evidence I asked for? You’re certainly making a lot of assertions about the opinions of Americans without it.
Just post the link to the poll that says 70% of Americans want to win the war. It’s entirely possible that with the question worded the right way, such a poll exists. I just can’t find it.
And while you’re at it, provide some evidence to back up your assertion that 1) progress is currently occuring in Iraq, and 2) support for the war is increasing.
Otherwise, I can only assume these are wild fantasies on your part.
October 22nd, 2007 at 3:50 pmRepublicans are dinosaurs, unfortunately for the rest of us they’re tyrannosaurus rex.
October 22nd, 2007 at 4:00 pmAmericans are winners. Regardless of whether we CAN win or not, Americans, overwhelmingly, want to win this war.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
This is from Little Miss Sunshine´s father scriptlines.
October 22nd, 2007 at 4:04 pmSo if Americans are winners, what are nonAmericans? Just wondering.
October 22nd, 2007 at 4:40 pm““Do you approve or disapprove of the way Bush is handling the situation in Iraq?â€
68% Disapproved & 30% approved
OK, wording here, Ripper.
If someone asked me that question, I would have to, in all honesty, answer that I had NOT approved of how the war was handled. I feel we should not have ended the “Shock and Aweâ€, blah blah blah.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 22, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
Except you forgot to mention that you would not answer that question in all honesty. You would blindly support GWB and answer Yes, you do approve of how the war was handled. Honesty & Republican support are mutually exclusive.
October 22nd, 2007 at 5:32 pmOK, Mr. Bigfoot, you’ve restated your FEELING that the vast majority of Americans support “winning” in Iraq. I’ve given you a FACT about recent polling. Now, it’s your turn to make that FEELING a FACT. You must have some reason for FEELING the way you do about this. Can you give us something more than this FEELING you have?
October 22nd, 2007 at 7:12 pmThe Republicans are afraid of Ron Paul, because they are intended to loose in 08. I guess Billary or Obama are meant to win, that’s why the Reps. only have mediocre candidates this time.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:39 pmRon Paul is the exception. He could beat both Billary and Obama without even trying hard. They are afraid of Ron, because they don’t have him under control.
Abolishing the Fed and fading out the income tax would cost the bankers quite some power. That’s why they wanna get rid of Ron Paul. He’s the only real patriot in the game.
>Say, how’s that conversion to Islam coming along?
hey bigfoot, speaking of black and white, can you explain to us simpletons where the turks about to invade iraq and the kurds giving shelter to the terrorists in iraq fall on the “with us or against us†spectrum?
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:54 am