Conservatives Attack Gay Dumbledore; Claim Vindication For Jerry Falwell’s Homophobia
Conservatives Attack Gay Dumbledore; Claim Vindication For Jerry Falwell’s Homophobia
On Friday, British author J.K. Rowling revealed for the first time that Albus Dumbledore, one of the central heroes in the record-breaking Harry Potter series, is in fact a gay man. Asked if Dumbledore, “who believed in the prevailing power of love,” had ever fallen “in love himself,” Rowling said that he once had with another male wizard.
While Rowling considers her novels to be a “prolonged argument for tolerance” and most fans were “thrilled with the announcement,” some conservative blogs are criticizing the revelation:
- Psycheout at Blogs 4 Brownback called it “revolting,” saying “Dumbledore is a gay homosexual who doesn’t deserve to live on G-d’s green earth.”
- At Redstate, dvdmsr says the revelation means that “Dumbledore was more flawed than I thought.”
- Don Surber wondered why the audience would “applaud” the revelation and suggested that Rowling was “knock[ing] the Christians” to “sell books.”
One prominent conservative blog, Newsbusters, is claiming that the revelation somehow vindicates the late Rev. Jerry Falwell, who was showered with ridicule in 1999 after declaring that one of the Teletubbies, Tinky Winky, was gay. Mark Finkelstein, a Republican official in upstate New York, writes that “somewhere, Jerry Falwell is smiling” about the news:
What’s that? It now turns out that Dumbledore is gay? That guy who was the headmaster at Harry Potter’s Hogwarts? Author J.K. Rowling said so herself? [...]
And while Falwell was thoroughly lambasted in the MSM for his suggestion, the Times tells us that Rowlings’s revelation inspired “applause.”
Somewhere, Jerry Falwell is smiling.
First, Harry Potter and the Teletubbies are completely unrelated. The sexual orientation of a character in one fictional world cannot vindicate claims about the sexual orientation of a separate character in a separate fictional world.
Even if Finkelstein’s larger point is that Falwell was right that some children’s entertainment include “undisclosed gay characters,” Falwell was wrong in his claim that the presence of a gay character is “damaging to the moral lives of children.” As Jacob Weisberg wrote in 1999, “there’s no scientific or psychological basis” for that claim:
There’s no scientific or psychological basis for believing that children are affected in their sexual development or eventual sexual orientation by exposure to homosexuality–on television or in real life. If the creators of cartoons are intentionally or unintentionally giving children the idea that gay people are part of the big, happy human family, that’s a good thing, not a bad one.
The audience applauded Rowling’s message because it was one of tolerance; Falwell was criticized because his one was of hatred, based on gay stereotypes. The need for tolerance is reinforced by the conservative blogosphere’s reaction to a fictional character being gay.
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LOL just mention homo’s and the rabid right loses it. Too funny. To be honest, I have read all of Rowling’s books, and I never once wondered about Dumbledore’s sexuality. Mainly because I don’t care, and it doesn’t effect the story in any way.
October 22nd, 2007 at 7:43 pmDo they even realize that J. K. Rowling can turn around tomorrow and say “I misspoke; Dumbledore is not gay” and they’ll have to take it all back?
Of course, Ms. Rowling probably has integrity (personal or artistic) and wouldn’t care what a bunch of right-wing homophobes think this “proves”.
October 22nd, 2007 at 7:43 pm“Somewhere, Jerry Falwell is smiling.”
As the Devil jams the white-hot poker farther up his arse…
October 22nd, 2007 at 7:44 pmJerry Falwell is smiling as he is getting a blow job from Jeffry Dahmer in hell.
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Paul is the Walrus
Dumbledore is the Drudge
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October 22nd, 2007 at 7:46 pmIt’s a fictional character.
October 22nd, 2007 at 7:51 pmIt has no basis in reality.
Rowling is milking her diminishing talent for every drop of idiocy she can.
“There’s no scientific or psychological basis for believing that children are affected in their sexual development or eventual sexual orientation by exposure to homosexuality–on television or in real life.”
Charles Nelson Reilly, or Paul Lynde? I challenge anyone to admit they were led into a gay lifestyle after watching either of these two on TV.
October 22nd, 2007 at 7:52 pm- Psycheout at Blogs 4 Brownback called it “revolting,†saying “Dumbledore is a gay homosexual who doesn’t deserve to live on G-d’s green earth.â€
The guy does know that Dumbledore is a fictional character, right?
October 22nd, 2007 at 7:52 pmGayness and sorcery. Better get the book burning pyres lit. Wasn’t Michael saying something about the “sky is falling”. Isn’t weird that they don’t realize that Top Gun and Spartacus were “gay” movies?
October 22nd, 2007 at 7:52 pm#7: The guy does know that Dumbledore is a fictional character, right? – - That’s ok, so is “G_d.”
October 22nd, 2007 at 7:58 pmMy remarks haven’t been getting posted…..sooooo – I’ll try to keep it down.
These people are driving me crazy. They make me sick. As stated above, Dumbledore is a fictional character. Although in a very good fictional series.
Hey! Anyone catch Valerie Plame at firedoglake this morning? Go read the thread. It’s fascinating.
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:02 pmcaptions:
Falwell: “I love you, Dumbledore….”
Dumbledore: “Buzz off, freak…”
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:03 pm#7: The guy does know that Dumbledore is a fictional character, right? – - That’s ok, so is “G_d.â€
Comment by Badmoodman — October 22, 2007 @ 7:58 pm
Good point!
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:03 pmProof positive that Republicans are dumber than mud: they think fiction is real. MORONS!
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:04 pmProof positive that Republicans are dumber than mud: they think fiction is real. MORONS!
Comment by drago — October 22, 2007 @ 8:04 pm
That’s not a new phenomenon, you know. Reagan used to tell “war stories” from movies he’d appeared in.
Republicans have learned that fiction is much kinder to them than reality is.
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:10 pm“He (like Craig) was way too homophobic to not be hiding a few things in the water-closet!”
Comment by republicans hate facts
Fixed it for you.
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:11 pmSlowly but surely people are realizing that the louder someone protests against homosexuality, the more likely they are to be a homosexual. Which means, some fine day we’ll no longer be hearing from self-hating closet cases like the above mentioned “Psycheout”.
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:15 pmOne prominent conservative blog, Newsbusters, is claiming that the revelation somehow vindicates the late Rev. Jerry Falwell
Talk about scraping for something to resurrect the looney right’s reputation! By what line of reasoning… Oh, thats right, the looney right does not know what that word means.
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:18 pmSo I ask you: Who gives a f**k?
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:23 pmHi Daryll! Nice to see you. What books do you give the little fellow?
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:26 pmJerry knew before JK Rowlings knew that Albus Dumbledore was gay. Well it takes one to know one as it wasn’t revealed until book 7 that Dumbledore has an interest in his class mate when he was young. Now Jerry doesn’t read the books nor did he know what would happen in the end so Jerry was either looking in the mirror or wished one of the people in the Harry Potter books was gay.
Senator Craig knows the gay code to pick up a men but he says he’s not gay. Fingers Foley said he wasn’t gay but molested kids because he was raped by a Priest when he was a young boy. Vitters paid the church to forgive him for his hiring prostitutes which he still does today. Nobel wanna be Be Tray Us now changes the plan that he told under oath, but later was ordered by Cheney to stay the course.
I would like all the perverts, child molester, those hiring prostitutes and liars in the White House and Law Makers to stand up. Full house.
I notice no one said a word about Lord Voldermort as he to looks a little light in the loafers.
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:27 pmHi Daryll! Nice to see you. What books do you give the little fellow?
Playgirl…
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:27 pmOnly in cloud cuckoo nutty nut nut land…..
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:27 pmI don’t know if this is more scary, more hysterical, or just plain pathetic! Got to hand it to them Brownback nuts. Taking such a brave stand as to say a “gay homosexual” (didn’t know there was such a thing as a strait homosexual,LOL!) fictional character ( in other words non-existent, non-living, non-being) doesn’t deserve to live on “God’s” (another non-existent, non-living, non-being’s) “green earth.” Not that this isn’t funny, and pathetic enough, but I hate to tell these Christian fundamentalist nut jobs that the earth is mostly blue, and not green! If these complete mental midgets didn’t have so much power, and weren’t using it(to some degree of success I might add) to try and take over OUR country, and turn it into a Christian fundamentalist theocracy, no better than any other fundamentalist theocracy on this earth, this would be side splitting funny!
One more thing. If Dumbledore (the non-existent fictional character) can be a “gay homosexual,” maybe “God”( the favorite non-existent fictional character of these fundamentalist numb nuts) is also a “gay homosexual.” Why not? It seems like there sure are a lot of “gay homosexuals” among these pathetic hypocrites being outed lately, so why couldn’t their favorite fictional character be a “gay homosexual” as well?
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:29 pmDumbledaryll
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:30 pmIs everyone aware that this is a fictitious character – and have you contemplated why in the world she would be making this “revelation” after the story has been written?
The conservatives should be asking why they are being gamed, rather than playing their part in the game.
It’s FICTION. He wasn’t ACTUALLY gay. He doesn’t ACTUALLY exist.
Get a life.
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:30 pmIt kind of begs the (fun) question: just how many of these “Christians” might have taken their youngsters to any of these films, only to come to this realization so late in the game.
Let the exorcisms begin!
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:31 pm#15 Comment by ralph the wonder llama — October 22, 2007 @ 8:10 pm
Republicans have learned that fiction is much kinder to them than reality is.
Learned??? Everything I’ve seen indicates they don’t know the difference.
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:31 pmMy father was the Head Chair of the bible club at Troy State University.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 8:29 pm
So, are you the arm chair yet?
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:32 pmI am sure your dad did a fine job. Might you be more specific? Are biblical stories to be taken literally or should they be considered parables for a righteous life?
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:32 pmDaryll, being a christian concervative qualifies you to be gay as well. Do you have any strange urges??? It is ok, most of society is accepting of gays…
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:33 pmEveryone remember when Dan Quayle attacked Murphy Brown, also a fictional character, for being a single mother.
Hey Daryll, perhaps the the little tike would like some Pokemon cards. I hear you can get them pretty cheap these days.
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:34 pmDaryll,
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:34 pmIt’s time you take your meds! Then you can go pray to Fred Flinstone, or whatever other ficinal character you would like!
As I read it Rowling said ‘love’ not sex.
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:35 pmDaryll do you love your father?
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:36 pmBLASPHEMOUS!!!!! As my wife would quote, “the Rapt-con level is red. Stop while you are ahead, and repent because his return is nigh.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 8:35 pm
Geez Guy, why do you have to go so far out there. Now no one including God is going to take you seriously.
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:37 pmHold on a second. Is Dumbledore a real person or a character in a movie? Sorry for being so ignorant, but I’ve never seen the Harry Potter books/movies. If people are talking about a fictional character here, then that’s pretty pathetic! It’s just a novel, right? It’s not reality? Or is Dumbledore a real person. Help out an ignorant fella here! Thanks!
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:39 pmWhat can I say Daryll. I’m not perfect, I’m just a Jew! It’s time you gather up the family, and take them to the nut doctor. Maybe you can get a discount for multiple nut job therapy!
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:40 pmNo, this why I am married. Before I was married, when I did have heterosexual urges, I would read my bible until these urges left my body. An idol mind is the devil’s workshop.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 8:39 pm
You should have masturbated more and read the Bible a lot less ; you would have been less gullible and a better lover (just ask you poor wife) ………
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:41 pmNo, this why I am married. Before I was married, when I did have heterosexual urges, I would read my bible until these urges left my body. An idol mind is the devil’s workshop.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 8:39 pm
So have you been having homosexual urges since you got married? I think she might prefer your premarital urges. So what books would you recommend for my little ones?
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:42 pmNo, this why I am married. Before I was married, when I did have heterosexual urges, I would read my bible until these urges left my body. An idol mind is the devil’s workshop.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 8:39 pm
I have not ever claimed a date because Jesus said that he would come like a thief in the night. I will give you a hint. Israel is our time peace.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 8:41 pm
Daryll recently claimed to have an important, high-paying job in the defense industry. Does it worry anyone else that he doesn’t know the difference between “idol” and “idyll” or the difference between “time peace” and “timepiece”?
I mean, above and beyond the notion that anyone connected to any industry would read the Bible (should be capitalized, Daryll) instead of masturbate?
Creepy
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:45 pmDid you ever notice why President Bush was elected to serve a second term? It was because God was on his side.
So it follows that God really liked Clinton and all other two termers, right?
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:46 pmY’know, I would have been a lot more impressed if she made this announcement BEFORE the series concluded, before she was a billionaire. That would have been far more courageous. Now that the books are written and read, who cares what secret the non-existant character had? Could anyone tell Dumbledore was gay when they read the story? I asked my son, he had no clue – it rated an official “What Ev.” :)
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:46 pmMasturbation is a sin. I can see that satan is trying to gang up on me, but I will not be defeated because I have God on my side. Did you ever notice why President Bush was elected to serve a second term? It was because God was on his side. Divert from your filthy ways.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
Daryll, where does the Bible say masturbation is a sin? Chapter, verse, please.
Incidentally, President Bush was elected for that second term because his agents cheated in Ohio. God really had nothing to do with it, other than to mark off another sin on Bush’s chart.
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:47 pmComment by gummitch — October 22, 2007 @ 8:45 pm
Please don’t let logical thought get in the way of a super amazingly unreal electronic personage whom we all adore
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:48 pm#28 Comment by plunger — October 22, 2007 @ 8:30 pm
The conservatives should be asking why they are being gamed, rather than playing their part in the game.
Spot on plunger! Aside from ralph the wonder llama, no one else got the point. Rowling was so out front with her remark, hardly anyone anywhere got her message.
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:49 pmShe considers her novels to be a “prolonged argument for tolerance,†and who is more intollerant than the looney right. What better way to expose their intollerance and hypocracy than to have them face the dilemma of having bought her books for their children? Why even Darryl swallowed her taunt hook, line and sinker! (”This is the reason why I refuse to give my nephew a Harry Potter book as a gift.” he said above.) Poor Darryl…
Y’know, I would have been a lot more impressed if she made this announcement BEFORE the series concluded, before she was a billionaire. That would have been far more courageous. Now that the books are written and read, who cares what secret the non-existant character had? Could anyone tell Dumbledore was gay when they read the story? I asked my son, he had no clue – it rated an official “What Ev.†:)
Comment by Keltoi at Night — October 22, 2007 @ 8:46 pm
It actually did cross my mind, reading the seventh book, because of his relationship with another young man, but it just sort of flitted past (heh).
Yes, Dumbledore and Harry and the rest of the characters are fiction, but they’re real enough in the author’s imagination and in the imagination of millions of readers. And any good storyteller knows a lot more about the characters than ever ends up on the page of a book.
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:50 pmDoes it worry anyone else that he doesn’t know the difference between “idol†and “idyll†or the difference between “time peace†and “timepiece�
Comment by gummitch — October 22, 2007 @ 8:45 pm
Then of course there is idle, which, if I remember my hated catechism, is the correct word. Never realized that word was so HOMOnymic.
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:52 pmNo, this why I am married. Before I was married, when I did have heterosexual urges, I would read my bible until these urges left my body. An idol mind is the devil’s workshop.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 8:39 pm
Is this satire? From the comments I’ve read, evidently Daryll is a known quantity, so I guess my supposition is wrong.
On that note, when I’ve had sexual urges, such as “Nice Rack”, or “The Things I Could Do With That”, they were momentary and fleeting, nothing requiring a prolonged reading of the bible.
I’m thinking your heterosexual urges may not be heterosexual urges, but rather some deep seated psychosis which you should seek therapy for, before you hurt someone or yourself.
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:53 pmDaryll, be sure to add: “Lamb; the Gospel According to Biff, Christ’s Childhood Pal” by Christopher Moore. You will learn a LOT.
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:53 pm#55- Actually Daryll, he was only “elected” to a 2nd term, because his buddy owned the company that made the electronic voting machines that had no paper trail!
Yea, we know you think masturbation is a sin, and I’m sure you “know” it makes you go blind as well. Only one problem. I’ve been masturbating for about 35 of my 43 years, and I can still see well enough to see your mentally ill, and need lots of therapy, and meds!
One more thing. Your buddy Jesus, the one who said”he would come like a thief in the night.” Did you ever think that since he wasn’t perfect either, because he was a Jew as well, that maybe he lied?
Bet your heads about to explode now, isn’t it Daryll?
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:54 pmThen of course there is idle, which, if I remember my hated catechism, is the correct word. Never realized that word was so HOMOnymic.
Comment by Keltoi at Night — October 22, 2007 @ 8:52 pm
Indeed. Getting old and all these words get all jumbled up in my “brain.”
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:54 pmDaryll did GOD forgive Rev. Ted Haggard?
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:54 pmMasturbation is a sin. I can see that satan is trying to gang up on me, but I will not be defeated because I have God on my side. Did you ever notice why President Bush was elected to serve a second term? It was because God was on his side. Divert from your filthy ways.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
If “God” is on George W Buselofcocaine’s ’side’ , why are his 2 daughters promiscuous partying pigs ?
And if the Chimpster is so ‘righteous’ , why is it 5 years later and Iraq is a total quagmire ?
BTW
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:56 pmIf “God” is infallible , and Chimpy has him on his ’side’ , how come the imbecile and you 24%’ers that still support the worst president in US history haven’t been correct about a single damn prediction in the 7 years he’s been in office ?
I’m not having any problem about the fact that Dumbeldore is fictional. I mean, anyone who has even attempted to write is perfectly cognizant of the fact that one (as an author) has an entire universe of “facts” in one’s mind that never make it to paper. This is how the story and the characters achieve any level of nuance.
Was Dubeldore gay in Rowlings’ mind when she was writing the series? It is entirely possible. Alternatively, is she just tweaking the collective noses of a vicious pack of monstrously stupid, self-righteous hypocrites for no other reason than because she can? Also very possible.
What I’m having trouble with is whether “Daryll” is real, or just some sad caricature some one or more of y’all has manufactured to mess with my mind …
(I probably won’t believe your answer(s), one way or the other.)
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:56 pmDaryll,
Do you know why Harry Potter has to wear glasses?
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:57 pmBecause he played with his “magic wand” too much!
Do you have factual proof (remember, “thou shall not bear false witnessâ€)?
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 8:53 pm
Like the “WMD’s in Iraq” claim you religious dipshit ?
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:57 pmI saw Dubeldore make a pass at Matt Damon in “the Good Shepherd”!
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:58 pmMy friend, wrong again. Leviticus is part of the Old Testament, which should be used to guide us through are daily life. Our biblical laws are listed in the New Testament.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 8:57 pm
Good , take them and live a good clean long life ……………..
In Jerusalem.
October 22nd, 2007 at 8:59 pmWhat I’m having trouble with is whether “Daryll†is real, or just some sad caricature some one or more of y’all has manufactured to mess with my mind …
Comment by Gary Herstein — October 22, 2007 @ 8:56 pm
I have often wondered the same. Did you ever read the World Weekly News? There was a character editorialist called Ed Anger in there that sounds a lot like Daryll….
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:00 pmList of books (My top 5):
1. Davie and Goliath
2. What should I believe? Is there really a God, and does he care about me
3. The littelist angel
4. Our flag was still there: The story of the star spangled banner
5. A faith to grow on
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 8:51 pm
Thanks but I am pretty sure Davie was gay and I am not much for talking dogs. As to number two I have been teaching them to think for themselves, is that wrong? Do you think that ark stuff should be taken literally?
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:01 pmYou have proven why your party lacks morality. This is the reason why Americans cannot take your party seriously.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 8:58 pm
The last party I had was a blast! Which party are you talking about?
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:01 pmDaryll,
Do you know why Harry Potter has to wear glasses?
Because he played with his “magic wand†too much!
Comment by Keith — October 22, 2007 @ 8:57 pm
You have proven why your party lacks morality. This is the reason why Americans cannot take your party seriously.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 8:58 pm
As if a party that includes a regular prostitute user , a juvenile internet predator , and a lover of gay sex in public rest rooms is the pillar of morality and isn’t viewed as rejects auditioning for the “New Bozo the Clown Show” lead ?
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:02 pmMy friend, wrong again. Leviticus is part of the Old Testament, which should be used to guide us through are daily life. Our biblical laws are listed in the New Testament.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 8:57 pm
Which just goes to prove that you never actually read the New Testament and no absolutely nothing about Jesus. He was a JEW, Daryll, and he preached the laws of Judaism — which you will conveniently find in the Old Testament. Please find the part where Jesus says “Don’t worry about any of those dumb old laws; here are the new ones. Here’s the new revised Ten Commandments. Ignore the Torah and have a ham sandwich.”
If you’re real, you’re a bigger goof than I thought.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:03 pmThanks #80! That was funny!
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:04 pm“You have proven why your party lacks morality.”
Well, since it’s not the hypocritical morality that you conservatives practice, I would wear your emnity as a badge of righteousness.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:04 pmGood , take them and live a good clean long life ……………..
In Jerusalem.
Comment by MCMetal — October 22, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
Do you have a problem with Israel? Do you know that they are God’s chosen people? Also, what are your views on Iran?
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 9:01 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA @ “CHOSEN PEOPLE
‘Chosen’ to do what ?
Wander around clueless in a desert for half a century , without brains enough to release a camel and follow it or look up in the sky and follow a bird the hell out of there ?
“Chosen” to wear beanies that are missing their propellers as a “religious hat” ?
My “view” on Iran is that it is a Middle-East country ……….
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:05 pmOK, I’ve another question for y’all:
(Why am I typing “y’all”? I’m a native Southern Californian, for cripes’s sake! — but that’s not my question …)
My question is: why are you feeding the troll?
Another way of phrasing this question is this: Is there any truth to the old saw that it takes an idiot to argue with an idiot?
Cryin’ out loud guys, I’ve drinking as much as you have, and I still know better. What are y …. I CAN’T STOP IT!! … y’all waiting for?
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:07 pm“Do you have a problem with Israel? Do you know that they are God’s chosen people? Also, what are your views on Iran?”
Comment by Daryll —
Not according to Herr Coulter. Your maven believes that they are merely imperfect Christians.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:07 pmDo you have factual proof (remember, “thou shall not bear false witnessâ€)?
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 8:53 pm
Like the “WMD’s in Iraq†claim you religious dipshit ?
This has nothing to do with the President being re-elected for a second term. Try again.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
No , but it also shows that your so-called “word of God” is absolute horseshit if you insist on claiming that Chimpy has “God” on his “side” , dipshit……..
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:07 pmYour jerking off right now, aren’t you Daryll?
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:08 pmComment by MCMetal — October 22, 2007 @ 9:02 pm
How many times did the male hooker visit the West Wing when there was NOT a briefing?
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:08 pmComment by MCMetal — October 22, 2007 @ 9:02 pm
How many times did the male hooker visit the West Wing when there was NOT a briefing?
Comment by Keith — October 22, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
Why not just ask Daryll how often he “visited”………..?
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:09 pmThanks but I am pretty sure Davie was gay and I am not much for talking dogs. As to number two I have been teaching them to think for themselves, is that wrong? Do you think that ark stuff should be taken literally?
Comment by dbadass — October 22, 2007 @ 9:01 pm
Eh. That Ark business is in the Old Testament and Daryll pretty much picks and chooses whatever is convenient in the OT.
I don’t know what you have against talking dogs, though. I mean, sheesh, what about Huckleberry Hound?
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:09 pmDaryll,
Oh sure, it’s all right for your party to kill one million innocent people in Iraq—–but make one little joke about a magic wand and I’M immoral !!!
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:10 pm“Because it just wasn’t within God’s will. He wanted his chosen people to be humble, not be greedy and use their resources to harm others because of their ideological beliefs.”
Comment by Daryll
And now he’s claiming to know God’s thoughts. Beware the pit, sinner.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:10 pmDaryll, if they really are the ‘chosen’ people, why did God give the Oil to EVERYONE ELSE BUT THEM?
Comment by republicans hate facts — October 22, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
Because it just wasn’t within God’s will. He wanted his chosen people to be humble, not be greedy and use their resources to harm others because of their ideological beliefs.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 9:09 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Dipshit
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:11 pmSince when is referring to yourself as “God’s chosen people” considered being “humble” ?
MCMetal- Feel free to screw with Daryll’s head(either head for all I care) all you want, but take your anti-semitic comments, lube them up good, and shove them up your ass where they belong!
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:13 pm“This is a part of war. We aren’t killing these individuals in vain. We are trying to protect the democratic beliefs within the western nations. Also, we are trying to instill democracy into Iraq.”
Comment by Daryll —
Go school yourself on the tenets of “just war”.
This one ain’t it.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:14 pm#103 Comment by MCMetal — October 22, 2007 @ 9:05 pm
Absolutely hilarious! My candidate for “Funniest post on this thread.”
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:15 pmDaryll,
Oh sure, it’s all right for your party to kill one million innocent people in Iraq—–but make one little joke about a magic wand and I’M immoral !!!
Comment by Keith — October 22, 2007 @ 9:10 pm
This is a part of war. We aren’t killing these individuals in vain. We are trying to protect the democratic beliefs within the western nations. Also, we are trying to instill democracy into Iraq.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 9:12 pm
You’re “protecting” democratic beliefs by illegally invading a sovereign nation that didn’t threaten nor attack us and killing innocent civilians you’re supposedly trying to instill with democracy ?
Good call , you hopeless Chimpy nut hugging fool…….
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:15 pmAlso, we are trying to instill democracy into Iraq.â€
For those who we haven’t yet killed…
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:16 pmGummitch, read your bible. We are Gentiles. Therefore, the laws in the Old Testament do not pertain to us. This is the reason why Jesus created a new set of laws in the New Testament. Debunk that!!!
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
I actually have read the Bible, Daryll, at least a good bit more than you have.
“Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.” Matthew 5:19-20
Jesus never said a word about dumping the Torah. Your ignorance of your own religion is astonishing.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:16 pmAm I one of God’s chosen people? No. Why not? Because I am a Gentile (just like you).
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 9:14 pm
And that has what to do with my post , dipshit ?
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:17 pmThis is a part of war. We aren’t killing these individuals in vain. We are trying to protect the democratic beliefs within the western nations. Also, we are trying to instill democracy into Iraq.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 9:12 pm
Didn’t Hitler say pretty much the same thing? Jesus opposed taking up the sword against the Roman occupiers in Jerusalem—much less going to the other side of the world all based on a pack of lies to kill a million. Saddam would have left for $1 billion and guaranteed safety.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:18 pmNot true, we are trying to secure the oil – democracy is something the GOP leadership has already said they’d be willing to sacrifice – LIAR!
Comment by republicans hate facts — October 22, 2007 @ 9:14 pm
Please show proof that we have secured one barrel of oil for personal use.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 9:15 pm
We will………
Just as soon as you and someone in Chimpy’s horseshit administration directs us to those non-existent WMD’s and the BILLIONS OF MISSING US TAXPAYER $’S in Iraq , dipshit…..
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:18 pmDaryll, still waiting for the part where the Bible says that masturbation is a sin. It ought to narrow things down for you that only the New Testament counts in your “religion.”
Waiting . . .
Waiting . . .
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:18 pmDaryll, My mother is Quaker, Are my children screwed?
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:19 pmI hate to break it to you Daryll, but Jesus was NOT a Christian. He was born, and died a Jew. Besides, Christianity didn’t even exist at the time of his death.
As for MCMetal plate in your head. Again, enough with the anti-Semitic garbage. It’s bad enough we have to deal with nuts like Daryll. We don’t need, or want you hate mongering bigotry here too!
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:19 pmYou’re “protecting†democratic beliefs by illegally invading a sovereign nation that didn’t threaten nor attack us and killing innocent civilians you’re supposedly trying to instill with democracy ?
Good call , you hopeless Chimpy nut hugging fool…….
Comment by MCMetal — October 22, 2007 @ 9:15 pm
Do you get it!!!! Sadaam was constantly and financially aiding terrorist organizations.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 9:17 pm
So is Saudi Arabia , Iran , Pakistan , and Russia ; are they all “next” ?
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:19 pmComment by gummitch — October 22, 2007 @ 9:18 pm
Have you read ” A Mind of Its Own”. If not I highly recommend it.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:22 pmI hate to break it to you Daryll, but Jesus was NOT a Christian. He was born, and died a Jew. Besides, Christianity didn’t even exist at the time of his death.
As for MCMetal plate in your head. Again, enough with the anti-Semitic garbage. It’s bad enough we have to deal with nuts like Daryll. We don’t need, or want you hate mongering bigotry here too!
Comment by dr7854 — October 22, 2007 @ 9:19 pm
Hey DoctorDickLittle
Piss off ; get it through your stupid Jewish head that poking fun/criticizing Israel/the Jews is NOT ANTI-SEMITISM.
I’m tired of those like yourself that believe any justifiable/deserved criticism is immediately labeled as anti-Semitic behavior/feelings ; get off it…….
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:23 pmDon’t forget that James Dobson was right about that chum-guzzler Spongebob Squarepants.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:25 pmJust as soon as you and someone in Chimpy’s horseshit administration directs us to those non-existent WMD’s and the BILLIONS OF MISSING US TAXPAYER $’S in Iraq , dipshit…..
Comment by MCMetal — October 22, 2007 @ 9:18 pm
How dare you question the fiscal responsibility of President Bush!!! Tax payer money is being spent on key Iraqi interest. Trust me, within a decade, President Bush will be considered a revolutionary hero.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 9:21 pm
You and the rest of the 24%’ers and this whole garbage administration are O-for-7-years ; you don’t have or deserve any credibility or for anyone to “trust” any of you.
And no one does……….
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:25 pmYou have separate groups within Saudi Arabia and Pakistan who are aiding terrorists. These are groups that do not represent their government. Get the facts straight. As for Russia, they are close to being added to our list as an “Axis of Evilâ€.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 9:24 pm
Those “separate groups” run those said countries , nimrod ; get a clue and stop posting as some arrogant know-it-all . You don’t know shit , except to wash Chimpy’s tiny nuts……..
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:27 pmSo “hates facts” hates Jews as well. Nice to know who is as screwed up in the head as Daryll, and MCMetal! One pathetic nut, and 2 pathetic bigots, sounds like 3 peas in a pod to me!
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:32 pm#107 Comment by Gary Herstein — October 22, 2007 @ 9:07 pm
My question is: why are you feeding the troll?
Sometimes it is just for fun. As long as you don’t get hooked emotionally into thinking trolls are being real it can be a ball.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:34 pmYou also didn’t know that this illegal invasion and occupation would turn into a fiasco, either. But all those left-of-center knew. All of us were critical of Saddam when your buddies were aiding him, too.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:34 pm#168- I also have no tolerance for extremists, but in the comment McMetal made, that you agreed with, he didn’t comment on extremist Jews, he made a bigoted comment about Jews in general. Now if your opinion is what you are NOW saying, I agree with you all the way, but if you still want to make ignorant comments about ALL Jews, then you and I are going to butt heads big time!
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:42 pmYou mean God reads TP?
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:44 pmAs for Daryll, could you be any more obvious that you are as fictional a character as Dumbledore?
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:44 pmAs for Daryll, could you be any more obvious that you are as fictional a character as Dumbledore?
Comment by dr7854 — October 22, 2007 @ 9:44 pm
I am not ficitonal. My passion for Jesus and conservative views are real.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 9:46 pm
Yeah
Real archaic and stupid
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:49 pmIt’s not passion Daryll. It’s MENTAL ILLNESS!
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:52 pmComment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 9:39 pm
Atta boy! You show ‘em! When you are in a foxhole and the enemy is overwhelming you, pray. Pray for your salvation, Darll. You have nothing else except your fantasy.
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:54 pmHey republicans hate facts, can I assume you meant to make a harsh comment about the fundamentalist Jews, and not all Jews, and that we’re back on the same page here?
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:55 pmIt seemed that was what you were trying to explain to me. Am I correct Hates Facts?
October 22nd, 2007 at 9:57 pmNo he didn’t say ALL, but he didn’t say only extremist, or fundamentalist Jews either! Sounds to me you ARE an anti-Semitic after all! At least I know what I’m dealing with!
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:00 pmNo he didn’t say ALL, but he didn’t say only extremist, or fundamentalist Jews either! Sounds to me you ARE an anti-Semitic after all! At least I know what I’m dealing with!
Comment by dr7854 — October 22, 2007 @ 10:00 pm
Because Jews are friggin’ “special” , I need to be so goddamn precise and quantify anything I say about them ?
What did I just post above , jerkoff ?
I’ve already posted it , you brainless shithead : If you are under the ridiculous premise that you’re one of “God’s chosen people” , you are an arrogant and delusional bag of shit.
That clear enough for you , DoctorDickLittle ?
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:04 pmWow! I never knew Dumbledore was a fictional character!
LOL. Losers.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:04 pmComment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 9:39 pm
Interesting that Daryll’s “prayer” is really an angry screed!
Angry??? Of course you aren’t angry, are you Darryl? You are just being “loving and compassionate”. Just expressing your deep feelings of hat…er love for the Clintons and Dems and anyone else you ha… er love. I’m sooooo impressed with you Darryl.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:04 pmSeriously, Darryl, Don’t you wish you could express your real feelings openly instaed of hiding behind the facade of “prayer?”
Sorry if I missunderstood Hates! I’ll take your word for it that you didn’t think he was intending it to be anti-semitic, although I DO believe he DID intend it to be as hateful as it sounded. That, however doesn’t mean you felt them same way about it, as I did!
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:05 pmIs Daryll speaking in tongues? He done got the Devil in him!
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:07 pmSorry if I missunderstood Hates! I’ll take your word for it that you didn’t think he was intending it to be anti-semitic, although I DO believe he DID intend it to be as hateful as it sounded. That, however doesn’t mean you felt them same way about it, as I did!
Comment by dr7854 — October 22, 2007 @ 10:05 pm
Take it however you wish ; I don’t need to explain myself to some internet nitwit…………
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:07 pmI never claimed to be “chosen,” or “special” you F**KING low life bigot(McMetal that is!)! It is CRYSTAL CLEAR you brain damaged Jew hating bigoted f**k! I sure would love to have you say that to my face you cowardice f**K!
Now do you see what he meant Hates Facts?
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:11 pmhmm i think it is what it is , just a book. if him being gay makes u happy great if not oh well . im babtist and have my belief but god can only judge what sin is not daryll
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:11 pmI don’t need you to explain yourself McMetal! You’ve made it very clear to all, your nothing but a low life bigot!
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:14 pmWait a minute… Dumbledore is a Jew?
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:15 pmGREAT point davevan!
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:16 pmThat was funny dbadass!LOL! And he was gay. Can you imagine how ready to pop Daryll’s head is about now?
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:17 pmI am real, and my love for the Lord is real. We are not crazy. We are just crazy for Jesus.
That sounds pretty gay to me Daryll…
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:17 pmActually I’m wrong. He wasn’t gay, he was a “gay homosexual!”LOL!
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:18 pmI will give you all the praise, honor and glory forever. In your name I pray, Amen.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 9:39 pm
Daryll,
God just called, and he said to just mind your own business, and pray for your own soul. The Good Lord knows your soul is just a knarled up hard brown kernel, and you’re gonna need all the help you can get.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:19 pmOh No! I think I just heard Daryll’s head go POP!
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:20 pmI don’t need you to explain yourself McMetal! You’ve made it very clear to all, your nothing but a low life bigot!
Comment by dr7854 — October 22, 2007 @ 10:14 pm
Who is this “all” , jackass ?
I don’t see anyone here posting that they back up your idiotic and false assertion of me.
You’re a jackass looking for any excuse to scream “ANTI SEMITIC” like a brainless banshee who has just been lobotomized.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:21 pmLOL! Do Psycheout, Redstate and Don Surber realize that Albus Dumbledore is a fictional character? Wow, these fools never cease to amaze!
Psycheout actually said “Dumbledore is a gay homosexual who doesn’t deserve to live on G-d’s green earth� That just f cking cracks me up! Are they total idiots? LOLOL!
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:21 pmBush and Cheney are both gay and yet the conservatives love them?Oh thats right(no pun) if you mask your homosexuality with violence then you aren’t really gay when you take it in the ass. You cannot drink yourself hetero Georgie.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:21 pmComment by Zooey — October 22, 2007 @ 10:19 pm
So, the answer is “Yes, God does read TP”.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:24 pmHey Zooey, it has been longer than a sec!
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:24 pmOf course, it’s all about the Christians. Even Harry Potter is against them.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:27 pmI’m not the one going apeshit McMetal. I’m not the one with all the bigoted anger inside McMetal. I really think you should meet Daryll at his shrinks office. Maybe he can even give you some samples since you obviously need such a large quantity of meds!
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:28 pmSo, the answer is “Yes, God does read TPâ€.
Comment by Keith — October 22, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
God links here from the Zoo. ;)
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:29 pmI don’t know, Falwell kind of looks like Dumbledore without the beard.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:30 pmHey Zooey, it has been longer than a sec!
Comment by dbadass — October 22, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
Did ya miss me? ;)
I’ve been to the coast for the weekend.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:30 pmAlso,I dare one person to type with a straight finger that Lynn Cheney hasn’t had female low fro in her chewer most of her life. That woman screams man hating tuna kazoo player.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:32 pmI’ll be here all week.
Inside the heart of every Conservative is a homoeroticaly repressed 11 year old boy yearning to escape.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:32 pmI’ve been to the coast for the weekend.
Comment by Zooey — October 22, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
Indeed I did but oddly me and the ladies were at the coast as well. What better way to celebrate the big oh 6. Wow those little gals can gobble up the sushi and the weather was super. Birthday girl did get a little pissy about having to help collect macroalgaes for the lab a ran in class today but still a great time. Hope the same for you. Well other than the seaweed part
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:34 pmMaybe that’s why Cheney’s such an angry bastard! He’s not gettin any, cause the wife’s munchin women!
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:35 pmWell other than the seaweed part
Comment by dbadass — October 22, 2007 @ 10:34 pm
I stayed at a hotel with no tv, no radio, no phones, and no kids. :)
Very relaxing! Walked on the beach, fed fat seagulls, stayed up all night watching a storm try to beat us up, and no macroalgaes. I want to go back next weekend. ;)
Happy birthday to the little lady.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:40 pmYou could learn alot in life by listening to men like Rev. Falwell.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 8:27 pm
Have to agree there. I learned alot about self rightous hypocrites, from watching Falwell, Baker, Haggard and others of that ilk.
“Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?”, Mathew 7:16, what the King James version says,anyway.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:41 pmMaybe that’s why Cheney’s such an angry bastard! He’s not gettin any, cause the wife’s munchin women!
Comment by dr7854 — October 22, 2007 @ 10:35 pm
That’s lovely. Weren’t you just pissed at McMetal for some allegedly anti-semitic remark? Are women fair game?
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:41 pmAnd before anyone takes my last comment the wrong way(I admit it didn’t sound great when I went back and read it), I have NOTHING against lesbians. As a matter of fact, as far as I’m concerned, there are not very many things to see that are as beautiful, as 2(or more) beautiful women getting it on!
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:42 pm223- I am sorry Zooey! As you can see from my following post, I realized how bad it sounded as soon as I re-read it. See I really am Jewish, and not “Perfected!”LOL!
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:44 pmHi Zooey!!
I’ve been to the coast for the weekend.
Comment by Zooey — October 22, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
What was the temperature there?
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:45 pmHere in Texas, I had to put on a coat this morning, first time this fall, brrrrr.
As a matter of fact, as far as I’m concerned, there are not very many things to see that are as beautiful, as 2(or more) beautiful women getting it on!
Comment by dr7854 — October 22, 2007 @ 10:42 pm
Ok, you can STFU any time now.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:46 pmwant to go back next weekend. ;)
Comment by Zooey — October 22, 2007 @ 10:40 pm
I want to go back everyday. What was I thinking moving inland? Stupid love! Go back often and enjoy always.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:47 pmWhat was the temperature there?
Here in Texas, I had to put on a coat this morning, first time this fall, brrrrr.
Comment by Wayne — October 22, 2007 @ 10:45 pm
Temps anywhere from around 40 to 60. Two storms! I love coastal storms. You put your coat on for the first time this morning!? We had frost over a month ago. :D
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:48 pmI said I was sorry Zooey!
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:49 pmI want to go back everyday. What was I thinking moving inland? Stupid love! Go back often and enjoy always.
Comment by dbadass — October 22, 2007 @ 10:47 pm
Unfortunately, it takes me 12 hours to get to the coast. :(
When I’m done with school, I really need to move closer to the ocean.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:50 pm200 responses for this BS?!
Your kiddin’ me right, there is nothing important going on in the world.
*NEWFLASH*
“The MAJORITY of so-called “VALUES VOTERS” are gay!!”
Back to reality, and things that matter.
Damn
RIP
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:51 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
I said I was sorry Zooey!
Comment by dr7854 — October 22, 2007 @ 10:49 pm
Shhhh…..
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:51 pmBesides, I don’t see you jumpin all over VanThomas, and at least I realized my MISTAKE, and explained, and apologized right away!
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:53 pmYou put your coat on for the first time this morning!? We had frost over a month ago. :D
Comment by Zooey — October 22, 2007 @ 10:48 pm
Heh, this is Texas. “Hell, it ain’t even Pumpkin Time yet”.
It was about 40 degrees and a hard rain. It was in the 90s yesterday. Quite a shock to the system.
=D
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:54 pm“…G-d’s green earth.â€
um… what is G-d’s ?
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:54 pm.
#233-LOL!
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:54 pmIt was about 40 degrees and a hard rain. It was in the 90s yesterday. Quite a shock to the system.
=D
Comment by Wayne — October 22, 2007 @ 10:54 pm
Oh well, I love a wind blown, freezing walk on the beach. :)
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:56 pmI don’t know who the SGT. was, but I thank him, and his family for his service, and I only wish we could get all our heros home yesterday! As Tired said, RIP Sgt. Sherman!
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:57 pmGummitch, read your bible. We are Gentiles. Therefore, the laws in the Old Testament do not pertain to us. This is the reason why Jesus created a new set of laws in the New Testament. Debunk that!!!
Comment by Daryll
No he didn’t. If the Bible is to be believed, the Apostles created new laws, after Jesus supposedly died, came back, then flew up to heaven. You’re not a Christian, Daryll; you’re a Paulian.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:58 pmWhen I’m done with school, I really need to move closer to the ocean.
Comment by Zooey — October 22, 2007 @ 10:50 pm
When I was first done with school I lived aboard a boat in an upscale community in Maine where a certain jackass family resides atleast occasionally. Your acknowledgement of the power of coastal storms on an individuals psychology is evidence of your comprehension of the incomprehensible
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:58 pmDo you think you can accept my apology Zooey? The last thing I want to do is act like McMetal spewing hate all over the place!
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:59 pmHey Homeschooler, I think we made Daryll’s head explode a while back. Haven’t heard from him in a while.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:01 pmDo you think you can accept my apology Zooey? The last thing I want to do is act like McMetal spewing hate all over the place!
Comment by dr7854 — October 22, 2007 @ 10:59 pm
Don’t worry about any apology to me, darling. Just understand that by saying crap like that about women, you’re no better than anyone else.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:05 pmI don’t claim to be better than anyone else, but I do know that when I say, or do something wrong, the right thing to do is apologize.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:07 pmYour acknowledgement of the power of coastal storms on an individuals psychology is evidence of your comprehension of the incomprehensible
Comment by dbadass — October 22, 2007 @ 10:58 pm
:-)
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:08 pmOn the other hand, I am not a hateful person, and don’t want to be thought of as one. Either way, I know I am being sincere whether you want to accept my apology, or not. Like I said, I just felt I was wrong for what I said, and I wanted to say I was sorry.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:09 pmI wonder if Dumbledore was ever pinched in Minnesota for toe-tapping in the airport restrooms?
-GSD
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:09 pmAlright, JK! Way to get the Christians fired up for the 2008 election!
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:10 pmComment by muckdog — October 22, 2007 @ 11:10 pm
Someone would consider a fictional character before casting a vote?
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:14 pmI think we were all starting to worry that the Christians weren’t going to bother to show up and vote for Rudy in 2008. I guess JK fixed that problem .
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:17 pmHow soon before the Pink Panther is outed?
-GSD
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:17 pmPersonally, I think it is hilarious that these bigots that call themselves “Christians”, get worked into a froth over Fictional Characters. Duh!
The whole argument is just… plain…. silly.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:18 pm250- These fundamentalist mush brains don’t understand the difference between fiction, and reality dbadass. As for Daryll, if he wasn’t fictional himself, he had one of the mushiest brains I ever came across!
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:19 pmTry searching The Google for Dumbledore and AIDS.
LOL
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:20 pmComment by muckdog — October 22, 2007 @ 11:17 pm
What do you mean? For real, do you think there are actual voters that vote based on the gender preference of fictional characters? Aren’t you the one who can not consider AGW due to sufficent quantitative evidences?
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:21 pm252-I knew it with that pink suit of his!LOL!
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:22 pmAlright, JK! Way to get the Christians fired up for the 2008 election!
Comment by muckdog — October 22, 2007 @ 11:10 pm
Over a fictional character, yeah right. And the author is British, Einstein.
How does that affect American politics in any sane way?
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:22 pmMuch to chagrin of its radical right organizers, this weekend’s Values Voter Summit of GOP White House hopefuls produced only confusion. Despite the gymnastic contortions and acrobatic back-flips of Republican presidential candidates eager to win evangelical hearts and minds, no clear winner of the conference straw poll emerged. Thanks to his stuffing of the online ballot box, Mitt Romney edged Mike Huckabee, the clear favorite of actual conference goers, by 1,595 votes to 1,565.
Eager to avoid a repeat of this year’s inconclusive outcome, the organizer of the event, Tony Perkins’ Family Research Council, is moving to a new competitive format designed to produce a definitive winner. Here, then, is the guide to:
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:24 pm“The 2008 Values Voter Olympics.”
Where’s Michael to explain why mission of the National Guard should be fighting the gay fantasy characters in Fantasyland rather than fires in the Homeland?
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:25 pmI think we were all starting to worry that the Christians weren’t going to bother to show up and vote for Rudy in 2008. I guess JK fixed that problem .
Comment by muckdog — October 22, 2007 @ 11:17 pm
Rudy moved in with a gay couple after his wife kicked him out of the mayor’s mansion for bringing his mistress home in front of the children. Real “family values” you got there!
Clarification: I am fine with gay couples. I am just pointing out hypocrisy.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:27 pmLike I said, I just felt I was wrong for what I said, and I wanted to say I was sorry.
Comment by dr7854 — October 22, 2007 @ 11:09 pm
Do you actually think this is complimentary to women?
The point is that you are holding someone like McMetal to a higher standard than you hold yourself — simply because you know when you ought to say “sorry.”
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:28 pmAnd it’s pretty hard for Lynn Cheney to come under the category “beautiful women”.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:31 pmBan the Bible. It corrupts and rots weak minds.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:32 pmAnd it’s pretty hard for Lynn Cheney to come under the category “beautiful womenâ€.
Comment by Keith — October 22, 2007 @ 11:31 pm
I hope they run that woman for president. :-D
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:34 pmdr7854:
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:36 pmI am inclined to find sincerity in your acknowledgement of something offensive however, Zooey is right on this one.
I hope they run that woman for president. :-D
Comment by Zooey — October 22, 2007 @ 11:34 pm
The 2012 debates between Hillary and Lynn would turn into a real catfight! Was that sexist?
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:38 pmBan the Bible. It corrupts and rots weak minds.
Comment by jrizal — October 22, 2007 @ 11:32 pm
Never ban a book. It corrupts and rots minds
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:39 pm#234……um,Maybe that is because I need not correct my comment.Just a thought,no need to involve me in your shame.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:42 pmJK Rowling is British.
So her relationship to domestic American politics is kind of tangential.
(isn’t it funny that a bunch of movies, set in England and with an entirely british cast and director is automatically thought of as an American movie?) (Like another british Fantasy book directed by a New Zealander, shot in New Zealand, and with a British cast is a Hollywood movie?)
Go on, 24%: get mad at Great Britain. We’ll watch.
Of course, Rowling herself has the perfect pudown, in one word: “Muggles.”
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:43 pmI swear I saw Dumbledore make a pass at Matt Damon in the film “The Good Shepherd”!
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:43 pmWhere’s Michael to explain why mission of the National Guard should be fighting the gay fantasy characters in Fantasyland rather than fires in the Homeland?
Comment by dbadass — October 22, 2007 @ 11:25 pm
Maybe he is busy trying to figure out his NEC in fantasyland.
That boy may be as dumb as a rock in a mud pond.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:43 pmFirst- I think there is a HUGE difference between knowing your wrong, and saying your sorry vs. knowing, or not knowing your wrong, and going into a hate filled rage, and verbally attacking someone.
Second- on several occasions I have observed(with their permission) lesbian, and bi-sexual woman making love, kissing, or even just holding each other while staring into each others eyes, and I’m sorry if it offends you, but I have always found it to be a beautiful image.
Third-If you truly believe there is some kind of equality between a hate filled religious based rage, and a person who finds the image of 2 women together in their passion, I truly feel sorry for you Zooey.
I do have one serious question for you Zooey. What is it about what I said, my recognition it was wrong, and my apology for it, that makes you so angry, but the original comment that I was commenting on(#217) seems to have been fine with you? Maybe not fine, but you didn’t say one word about it!
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:45 pmWeren’t some churches holding burnings for Harry Potter books a few years ago–for advocating withcraft? Or am I remembering it wrong?
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:47 pmThat boy may be as dumb as a rock in a mud pond.
Comment by Wayne — October 22, 2007 @ 11:43 pm
“Round these parts the phrase “Numb as a hake” comes to mind
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:47 pm“somewhere, Jerry Falwell is smilingâ€
Must be hard to smile while the Devil is pushing a white hot poker up his… er soft warm place.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:49 pmComment by dr7854 — October 22, 2007 @ 11:45 pm
**snort**
I’m sorry, I know you’re being totally serious in your comment, but that’s the most ridiculous and hilarious thing I’ve read in a long time — and Daryll was on this thread, so that’s really saying something.
:-D
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:50 pm268- Do you mean NOT inclined? That’s your choice! I know I was sincere, and I know I recognized my mistake BEFORE anyone said anything about, and apologised BEFORE anyone said a word about it. You want to think I wasn’t sincere, that’s on you!
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:52 pmI recognized my mistake BEFORE anyone said anything about, and apologized BEFORE anyone said a word about it. You want to think I wasn’t sincere, that’s on you!
Comment by dr7854 — October 22, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
You are mistaken. Observe my comment at #223.
No need to apologize.
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:59 pmZooey, I shouldn’t be involving myself but if i have any cred with you, I hope it is a shared concern for manners. I think it is clear that dr7854 gets it. Can you do me a solid and just accept the apology.
dr7854: Sexual contact in any and all its forms is beautiful
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:00 am279-What’s so ridiculous about it Zooey? Now who’s being hypocritical? McMetal made multiple hate filled comments about Jews, many of which were aimed directly at me, and you find some kind of equality between what I said, and how I handled it, and what he said, and how he handled it? Really? At least I am enough of a gentleman to not fly off into some rage over someone rightfully being offended by something I said, and big enough to say I’m sorry. What’s your excuse for holding that against me?
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:00 am282- Thank you for understanding dbadass! I never meant to offend anyone, but I understand I did. That is exactly why I said I was sorry!
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:05 amZooey, I shouldn’t be involving myself but if i have any cred with you, I hope it is a shared concern for manners. I think it is clear that dr7854 gets it. Can you do me a solid and just accept the apology.
Comment by dbadass — October 23, 2007 @ 12:00 am
I’m not sure he does get it, but it seems important to him, and you’re asking, so I’ll accept the apology.
I’m beat — had to drive another 3 hours today to pick up my dog — so I’m heading off to bed. I’ll put pictures of the fierce Pacific on the Zoo in the next few days. :-)
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:06 am282- Thank you for understanding dbadass! I never meant to offend anyone, but I understand I did. That is exactly why I said I was sorry!
Comment by dr7854 — October 23, 2007 @ 12:05 am
But the thing is that you just keep making it harder to try to help. Comparing one’s mistakes to someone els’es is bogus. Make your apology and move on.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:07 amOh, crap. I was hoping Daryll was still around.
A Presbyterian church in Malibu was burned by the fires, and I wanted his take on whether or not it was God’s will that those folk lose their church.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:09 am
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:09 amUnlike the Potter books, I understand Bible stories are filled with incest… riddled with fear.
I’m not sure he does get it, but it seems important to him, and you’re asking, so I’ll accept the apology.
Comment by Zooey — October 23, 2007 @ 12:06 am
Thanks but I have become unsure myself. Can we just hope that he gets it?
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:09 amAnd if a study was done comparing Bible readers to Potter readers, I would bet the mental, emotional health of Potter readers would be exceptionally better.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:14 amZooey- if you would please go back, and re-read 224, I think you might just realize by the 2nd word, that I was writing it BEFORE I saw 223, and knew someone(You) had already read what I said, and had been offended by it. 225 was an immediate apology to YOU, because at that point I HAD read your words, understood I offended YOU, and I felt it was only right that I should give YOU a personal apology. What there is no need for is your acceptance of my apology. You don’t owe me anything! I on the other hand DID need to apologize, because that’s who I am, and that’s what I do when I’m wrong. I own it, and apologize for it!
I would still like to know however, why you jumped all over me, but still have not said word one about the original comment made by someone other than me?
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:20 am#288 Comment by had enough — October 23, 2007 @ 12:09 am
Unlike the Potter books, I understand Bible stories are filled with incest… riddled with fear.
Bite your tongue! You are speaking of their religious dogma here! Genuflect and show some respect for the guiding principles that Darryl and the christian loons worship!
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:23 amYears ago, a child of 9yrs wanted to know if ‘The very religious people were that way because they needed rules more than others’… that thought so proves very true. All should be able to believe in what ever they wish.. but when THEIR belief is used to condescend, then it becomes personal.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:28 amIf Darryl started his own cult, I’d be the first to join. He already has the advantage of not being real and it would be just such a riot hanging with his crew.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:30 am#290 Comment by had enough — October 23, 2007 @ 12:14 am
And if a study was done comparing Bible readers to Potter readers, I would bet the mental, emotional health of Potter readers would be exceptionally better.
Not when it comes to memorization, and the ability to quote chapter and verse. Why, one would have to surmise that memorizing all that incest stuff and learning how to use fear to keep it all in the family, would make them appear much better than those that read about gayness and demonism from some foreign woman author.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:36 amAt this point, I could care less whether the 2 of you think I get it, or not. If you haven’t figured that out yet, that’s on you, not me! I KNOW I owed an apology, I made it, I even explained why I felt my apology was needed. For you to not think it is sincere, and from my heart, says much more about the 2 of you, than it does me. As for the comparisons dbadass, I wasn’t the one who started with them. That was Zooey comparing me to McMetal’s hate filled rantings, and I find THAT to be offensive!
One last thing Zooey, and I KNOW you will be offended by this(not that it is offensive, but because I believe you know it’s true, and I think your probably a good person who doesn’t like that she has this issue), but that’s just to bad. The reason I apologized, beyond what I have already told you, is that I love, and respect women(and men, but my words were offensive to women in this case), and I know in my heart it was the right thing to do. You on the other hand have made it crystal clear you have issues(and a lack of respect) for men!
Have a nice life!
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:38 amMerlin
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:40 amIf they didn’t have that special way of looking down their nose at non Christians, I would truly feel sorry for them.
#294 Comment by dbadass — October 23, 2007 @ 12:30 am
If Darryl started his own cult, I’d be the first to join. He already has the advantage of not being real and it would be just such a riot hanging with his crew.
The visual that hits me is scenes from One Flew Over the Cookoo’s Nest. A room full of Darryll like people would require a nurse Ratched to deal with them as they fought to stand on the table and preach.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:44 amHave a nice life!
Comment by dr7854 — October 23, 2007 @ 12:38 am
Your strong feeling is to be respected. I am unsure why you feel the need to speak to me in a way which seems frustrated and hostile. I was the one who defended you. I think you a beating a horse which is long dead. I can’t speak for anyone but myself but I think it is time to let this go as to speak again another day with clear and wise minds on other topics.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:49 am—
How sad, how sad…
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:00 amAnd we see the fruits of the sexually repressed constantly.
#297 Comment by had enough — October 23, 2007 @ 12:40 am
Merlin
If they didn’t have that special way of looking down their nose at non Christians, I would truly feel sorry for them.
I must admit that you are a better person than I am regarding these lying, fantasy indulging, “I am better than you are” hypocrits. They look at me with disdainful pity while I look back at them with comedic pity. I guess the only difference between me and them is I know what we both are doing and they don’t.
Your feelings are charitable and that is far more commendable than me enjoying my pitying them with no desire to change. I hasten to add that if Darryl would seriously embrace reality and the real world, I would be first in line to accept him back into the Human Race. As it stands now, however, he is already dead for all intents and purposes here on earth, and actually is more an obsticle to the rest of us than he is worth.
Mark Twain said it best:
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:02 amDied at 30, burried at 60.
299-I’m sorry if I misunderstood dbadass, but I could swear you came back after defending me, and said you had then come to doubt me. If I misunderstood, I am sorry, but that IS what you said. My anger, however, is not aimed at you, and until I was compared to the very same unapologetic, anti-Semitic, hate monger that verbally attacked me for being Jewish, I was only angry at him, but for me to own up to my comment, which I was the first to say was offensive, and give a sincere apology for it, and as a matter of fact, I even went further, and asked to be forgiven, for no other reason than I felt bad that I HAD offended someone, and Zooey’s response was to compare MY comment to the hate I was attacked with, well yea! I did get angry at HER for that! What I said was NOTHING compared to the hate that had been aimed at ME. It was offensive, but not even close to being in the same league, and I APOLOGISED, where Mr.Bigot just kept on attacking.
Now do you understand why I am so angry?
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:05 amAgain, if I misunderstood your comment about changing your mind, and doubting me, I am truly sorry! I just don’t think I misunderstood. I think your words were clear.
#299 Comment by dbadass — October 23, 2007 @ 12:49 am
Following all the comments by all the players in this mini drama was embarrassing to me. Your post here is on the money, I feel. I know that it is difficult to give up the quest to regain emotional equality when you are one down emotionally. Especially if you need the acceptance of others. As long as that acceptance is withheld the harder you try to gain it. Like that chinese finger goodie that you put your two index fingers in and then can’t get them out. The harder you pull the more it holds you tight. The only way to get it to release, is to let go and stop pulling. Stop fighting it. This however, is counterintuitive. Yet that is what you need to do and that is just what you suggested. Bravo!
I’m glad this drama appears to be over. At least for now.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:15 amHmmm… Now seeing #302, maybe it isn,t over yet. Damn!
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:17 amand no one had to stand on one foot in front of that annoying asian guy
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:18 am303-Wise words Merlin! Especially from the guy who called McMetal’s first anti-Semitic comments the “funniest post on this thread,” as you did in 130!
I could care less if I get someone’s approval,or not! As I stated before, I felt I was wrong, and I felt I owed an apology. My asking for Zooey to forgive me was nothing, but me being nice to someone I had offended!
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:34 amand no one had to stand on one foot in front of that annoying asian guy
HUH?
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:35 amHoly cow! I go to bed and wake up to an all-Daryll thread with 300 posts! I’m sorry I missed the fun.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:37 amDumbledore = Tinky-Winky. In what passes for a right-wing brain.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:38 amI though you would understand my comments in #302 dbadass. I guess I was wrong!
Have a nice night!
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:38 amI though you would understand my comments in #302 dbadass. I guess I was wrong!
Have a nice night!
Comment by dr7854 — October 23, 2007 @ 1:38 am
They understood ; you’re a stupid dick ………
Get lost you lying pansy …………
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:42 amBLOGS 4 BROWNBACK IS NOT CONSERVATIVE! BLOGS 4 BROWNBACK IS NOT CONSERVATIVE!
I’m pretty sure, anyway. I always thought they were satirical? I know some of its contributors also contribute at Jesus’ General, so that would make them mocking conservatives rather than actually conservative. Just pointing it out.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:50 amLying pansy? This coming from someone who is such a coward he can act tough, and sound like a Nazi when he’s anonymous on the web, but there is no way in hell you would open your pathetic mouth, and say those things to my face! And what the f**k did I lie about you pu**y, Nazi, coward, motherf**ker? They may agree with you, and they may not, but I’ll bet you anything that 9 out of 10 people on this blog thinks your nothing, but exactly what I said. A Nazi coward!
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:51 amFriend of Ann Coulter I’m guessing McNazi!
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:52 amJust like I thought you coward!
I’m out of here!
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:55 amHuh, maybe I’m wrong about my post (312). Maybe I’m confusing it with Baptists for Brownback. There was one of them…
I really can’t tell if the commenters are serious or not, though, on that post in B4B. It’s sad.
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:03 am.
So,
It’s not the Satanists that are the problem with Potter books after all, is it?
Well, at least not now… what with genital rights in question.
.
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:17 am“Maybe I’m confusing it with Baptists for Brownback.”
Comment by mauro7inf — October 23, 2007 @ 2:03 am
Baptists for Brownback is definitely a satirical site. Pretty hilarious stuff.
Wow, 316 comments on a nothing thread, but most of it’s Daryll the Divine and a load of arguments among three posters! :(
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:17 am#306 Comment by dr7854 — October 23, 2007 @ 1:34 am
303-Wise words Merlin! Especially from the guy who called McMetal’s first anti-Semitic comments the “funniest post on this thread,†as you did in 130!
I stand by my #130 post. I did not take that post as anti semitic, the way you did. I am not Jewish. Rather I am a Secular Humanist. I have no interest or investment in a belief in god. I found his post funny as it applied to Darryl and his attempt to show his puny bible understanding. Part of the Darryl saga that has been going on here for a long time. The smack down of self righteous religious bigots is a kick to me. Read my post #301 & #193 for my take on it.
Personally, I am not anti semitic nor even anti christian or anti any group. I am against things that people do that are hurtful to others. If they happen to belong to a group supporting those hurtful actions, my anger extends to the group as well. What Darryl believes in and preaches, is extremely hurtful to this country and the people that live here, and even to the world. Witness the “religious war” our great decider got us into, blessed it seems, by god himself, according to Bush.
I would take issue with you when you say:
I could care less if I get someone’s approval, or not!
You might want to think about that point tomorrow. It seems pretty evident that you do, and it is easy to show. (And I am not being critical here.)
Regarding your apology, I find no fault with it. It was fine. Mistakes are made, misunderstandings happen, and it does take courage to admit fault even with the anonimity that this board holds. I applaud your sincerety as well. Most folks don’t even know how to make a real apology, much less try. Saying you are sorry is a very difficult thing to do even if you know how. A few years ago I attended a two day experiential therapy group on learning how to apologize, believe it or not. It was a tough two days! There is a lot more to apologizing than we are aware of.
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:22 amLying pansy? This coming from someone who is such a coward he can act tough, and sound like a Nazi when he’s anonymous on the web, but there is no way in hell you would open your pathetic mouth, and say those things to my face! And what the f**k did I lie about you pu**y, Nazi, coward, motherf**ker? They may agree with you, and they may not, but I’ll bet you anything that 9 out of 10 people on this blog thinks your nothing, but exactly what I said. A Nazi coward!
Comment by dr7854 — October 23, 2007 @ 1:51 am
Yes, you are a lying pansy.
You falsely claimed that “others started with you” , when NO ONE WAS ADDRESSING YOUR SORRY , STUPID ASS.
You went off on an insane tangent , claiming I was making anti-Semitic remarks , and then you posted that republicans hate truth was an anti-Semite.
And you made that lame and erroneous claim that “others started” , after making laughable physical threats ; then turn around and try to claim victimhood.
What a putz you are.
BTW
I will happily say what I posted here to your flea bitten mutt carcass in a face-to-face ; I have 1 to 2 minutes to waste one day.
PS
There isn’t a soul that posted here , that agreed with you or defended you , jerkweed ; think that may be because you’re an imbecile and are completely wrong ?
Nah…….You’re too stupid , overly-sensitive , and a lying weasel mary to understand that.
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:28 amComment by Merlin — October 23, 2007 @ 2:22 am
Well put, Merlin, as usual. I’m sorry it’s too late here to have a chat with you – another time, perhaps! Goodnight!
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:47 amComment by dr7854
Dude, little girl, or what ever you are; you sound like you need a good nights rest.
Maybe you can get to sleep thinking about Jewish lesbians.
∞
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:48 amMy friend, wrong again. Leviticus is part of the Old Testament, which should be used to guide us through are daily life. Our biblical laws are listed in the New Testament.
Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 8:57 pm
The only Old Testament reference to homosexuality as a sin is the aforementioned reference to shellfish, marriage being required between all men and women, etc. It was abomination at the time, because the community in which those rules were written was hit by Red Tide or a similar ocean malady. They banned the eating of shellfish to prevent the deaths. They force everyone to marry man to woman and breed to maintain the population. They specify in the rules that a homosexual affair counts as adultery. They were merely qualifying male on male sexual encounters as “counting” towards the (extremely strict) anti-adultery laws.
The only homosexual references in the New Testament are in the Pauline Epistles. This is because PAUL was a homophobic misogynist. Paul had as much an anti-homosexual agenda as he had an anti-woman agenda. I take everything Paul said with a grain of salt. The man loathed so much for a follower of Yeshua. If the epistles were even written by Paul, what with that still under debate and all.
On the other hand, men married men for financial purposes in the Bible. Rabbis allowed women who wished it to HAVE ABORTIONS, by giving them moon tea, which would kill the baby, and the body would be flushed with the next menstrual cycle.
You hate so much, because some men with hatred in their hearts twisted the meaning of the lessons of ancient texts. You believe that words written by men and compiled by men, redacting by men to exclude all texts that did not conform to the foundation of an organized church with which to control the masses, as opposed to allowing them a personal relationship with their deity, as the gnostics taught. As Yeshua himself taught.
The Muslims revere Yeshua as being one of the most important prophets Allah (the same damned God of Abraham that Christians and Jews alike worship as well, no less!). They believe he is the Messiah, but the Muslims do not believe the Messiah has divine qualities, nor do they believe there is only one Messiah, ever. The Jews believe that the Messiah is divine, but has not appeared on Earth yet. You Christians believe that the Messiah is divine, and has indeed appeared on Earth in the form of Yeshua, or Jesus, the Christian Christ figure. Yet, so many of these sectarian folks, who all worship the same deity, project hatred upon one another. Upon anyone and anything that is DIFFERENT from what they were raised with.
Basically, you ignore the very teachings that Yeshua spread to the world. You do not turn the other cheek. You do not show humility, act pious, or spread the message of PEACE to the rest of the world. You bang the drums of war, and work tirelessly to undermine all the good the MAN Yeshua brought to the world.
Yeshua wanted us all to know that the only way beyond this mess we call civilization is to spread peace, and love. The only way is to shun and cast out the warmongers, the deceivers, the selfish worshipers of the material.
The mighty Republican worship of Capitalism, as their definition of it stands, with the “free market”, the corporate personhood, the inclusion of money in all aspects of life, INCLUDING RELIGION, would, if we are to believe his teachings and the tales of his life, make Yeshua the man sick to his stomach. The only time he expressed ANGER was against the USURERS who set up shop in the temple. No money in temple, no lending in temple. Worship and money, Yeshua knew, were a match made by The Enemy.
You and yours sicken me, quite frankly. You extoll none of the good virtues Christianity can bring to the world, yet manifest all of the bad that an organized cult can bring forth, in its greed and avarice. I may be an atheist, but you sir, are hardly a follower of Yeshua, the man you call the Christ.
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:48 am>You could learn alot in life by listening to men like Rev. Falwell.
Daryl looks like Reverend Roberts daughter in law is as much of a pedophile wh0re as your wife…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071023/ap_on_re_us/oral_roberts_scandal
October 23rd, 2007 at 3:31 am- Psycheout at Blogs 4 Brownback called it “revolting,†saying “Dumbledore is a gay homosexual who doesn’t deserve to live on G-d’s green earth.â€
- At Redstate, dvdmsr says the revelation means that “Dumbledore was more flawed than I thought.â€
- At home, maf54 asks “Does anyone have Dumbledores IM details?”
October 23rd, 2007 at 3:53 amComment by Chocolate Jesus — October 23, 2007 @ 3:31 am
Perhaps the most interesting thing about this drama is knowing that Oral Roberts had to move back to Oklahoma in order to rescue his “prestigeous” college from the the ravages of his predatory son and daughter in law. What a jucy Scandal! Does fit the same picture as all the other Religious outings that have been happening. And this is where BushCo is getting all its young Christian lawyers from!
Read the university’s inside scandal with all the proven allegations here:
October 23rd, 2007 at 3:53 amRobert’s wife is a real case!
Hm. Leviticus. ‘Scuse me, *cough FCK TH’ LEVITES cough,* pardon me.
October 23rd, 2007 at 3:56 amHm. The Bible. “Scuse me, *cough FCK TH’ BOOBLE cough,* pardon me.
October 23rd, 2007 at 4:03 amI started to click “Report Abuse” on the troll dung, and realized that the VAST majority of the posts in here is troll dung.
This thread is a troll WASTELAND!
October 23rd, 2007 at 6:35 amDoes that mean Dumbledore is a republican that that a “wide stance”?.
October 23rd, 2007 at 7:08 amI guess Daryll got done “tap tapping” in the mens room. Good to see you back!
Sorry ou haven’t done one single thing about your particular “pick and choose” approach to the Bible where you only select certain verses of the Bible to follow and ignore all the rest.
How sad for you that you refuse the Bible in its entirety and only focus on the verses that fit your narrow prejudices. Then again, what else can one expect from a “conservative” than hypocrisy and double standards? It’s all they’ve got left!
I’ll keep you in my prayers and hope that you wake up to the beam in your eye before you begin talking about the splinter in everyone else’s.
October 23rd, 2007 at 7:16 amInteresting qualification for one who criticizes believers. By knowing that there is no God – what it means to be an atheist – you can tell when someone isn’t a follower of Christ?
Must be a special skill that only atheist believe they possess!
Since you’ve read so much of scripture you probably know that Christ himself comments on the Creator’s intent as to how humans are to express their sexuality. Christ does this in Matthew 19 when he answers a question about divorce. Christ remarks that the Creator intended there to be one man one woman and that that relationship would be a marriage. This was the Creator’s intent from the beginning according to Christ.
I wouldn’t be so quick to condemn the Apostle Paul. Most of what we know about God’s grace – what a Christian accepts when he becomes a believer – comes from the Apostle Paul. In addition, some of the most beautiful writings in the world come under the name of the Apostle Paul. These writings would include I Corinthians 13 and Ephesians 3.
Many couples like to have I Corinthians 13 read at their weddings, and many Christians are hugely enamored with Ephesians 3. I would be one of them.
However, you are correct in writing that the Apostle Paul has harsh words for those who behave in a way that leads to a depraved mind. A portion of Romans 1 is quoted below. I certainly don’t want this to be true of the way I think.
all scripture can be found at
http://bibleresources.bible.com/bible_niv.php
It’s always best to let the Apostle Paul speak for himself.
I Corinthians 13
Ephesians 3
Romans 1
October 23rd, 2007 at 7:22 am
#45 – “An idol mind is the devil’s workshop.” Comment by Daryll — October 22, 2007 @ 8:39 pm
We have now met the “conservatives” and they can’t spell!
Then again, I’ve made some spelling mistakes as well. The only difference is that I admit that I make mistakes. “Conservatives” have to be told about their mistakes and they refuse to take personal responsibility for their own actions.
I think being conservative is a mental disorder. I wonder if there’s any hope for them?
October 23rd, 2007 at 7:26 amI think daryll is a fake, and a good one.
I think Paul’s writings are the very essence of paternal hypocrisy and conservative framing.
I think atheists are highly qualified to point out the hypocrisy of the Christianists. Being a “believer” exempts one from seeing the truth, by definition.
October 23rd, 2007 at 7:39 amJerry Faldwell isn’t laughing, because he’s in Hell sitting next to Sadam Hussien and Hitler wondering how he got there. I’ll tell you exactly how he got there. Because the was a hateful azzhole who used religion to gain power and wealth. This man hated blacks, jews and anyone else who wasn’t a WASP.
October 23rd, 2007 at 7:45 amI wrote this yesterday before any of this came out:
I think she’s just tweaking the nose of the fundamentalists who burn and ban her books. She’s having some fun now, bless her: hey Jerry Falwell, you’re dead and always were even when you were fat and alive; and I’m a billionaire and riding a wave of global love and fame that you never knew. Oh, and by the way, the noblest, most human character of my novels is gay. Have a nice day in hell, Jerry—kisses to your surviving followers…
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:08 am“It’s always best to let the Apostle Paul speak for himself.”
Not really. I for one dislike it when people quote the guy who completely ruined and perverted a fairly nice set moral teachings.
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:40 amWow. Was that really 5 hours of one dude fighting over a post that he took the wrong way? Someone needs to get out more and relax. This moniker “antisemitism” is thrown around much too much. On another forum I asked the question “why does U.S. foreign policy seem to be driven by the needs of Israel rather then the needs of the U.S. people?”. I was declared an antisemite on the spot and nothing I could say would dissuade them. It’s no different then questioning GWB and being deemed unAmerican.
October 23rd, 2007 at 8:56 amI agree, Dave C., the war mongers have gotten way to much mileage out of the term.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:01 amWow — I take a night off and look what I miss! The biggest question that leaps to my mind is, “why do the fundamentalists care about this so much?”
1) Dumbledore did not, to my knowledge, engage in any sexual behavior of any kind in any of the Harry Potter books or movies. For that matter, the Harry Potter series has been remarkably free from sexual activity in general (as is customary in books intended for an audience of minors).
2) Fundamentalist Christians have already dissed the Harry Potter books as Satanic. Therefore, any further revelations about any of the characters should make no difference to them.
3) I can’t imagine how Dumbledore’s sexual orientation would “damage” any child. Unless, of course, that child has already been warped by being fed a great deal of bigoted hooey about how “evil” the gay segment of our population is.
I suspect that the only reason the fundies care about this is they need a new outrage every so often to feed their phony self-righteousness. If only they would get at least as outraged about war, greed, selfishness, lying for political purposes, etc.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:03 amI think the fundies are also jealous, in that no matter how they try to jazz up their tired old Jesus Loves Me This I Know, whether in song, or print, it’s still the same fake dogmatic and parrotic drone.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:11 amPopular culture and mysticism will always have an appeal to the human imagination.
Modern christianism is the same withered carrot of golden mansions in the sky if you are compliant and submissive, and doom and hellfire if you dare to think outside the collection plate.
newsbusters?
that bunch of illiterate, uneducated, racist haters couldn’t make an original idea / premise if they sat down and thought real hard all day.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:22 amYou know what’s really hilarious here? Who’s REALLY gay in all this nonsense:
LARRY CRAIG
GUCKERT/GANNON
MARK FOLEY
JIM WEST
Yet to be outed (that is, busted):
Ken Mehlman
David Dreier
Do I really need to spend more time looking sh1t up? This took all of 2 minutes… no one except distraction hungry homophobes give a crap if a character in a book is gay!
GET… A… LIFE!
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:43 amBeing a “believer†exempts one from seeing the truth, by definition.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — October 23, 2007 @ 7:39 am
That is something YOU believe, so does that mean you can’t see “the truth”? I am both a Christian and a progressive who values separation of church and state politically and personally. There are many of us in this category but we have not been vocal because of our live and let live attitude. I do think it is time for that to change. If non-believing progressives do not accept us into the fold, there is less power to create the socio-political change we jointly seek. While I do think dr7854 overplayed his point, I also see how progressives can be hostile and bigoted against those of faith. Just because we have faith that stems from Biblical teachings does not mean that we accept everything in the Bible as scientific or historical truth. What many of us accept in the Bible is the spiritual truth that God lovingly created us and wants us to love him and each other. It is NOT loving to be judgmental like Daryll and it is NOT loving to stereotype people in our view. It does not require us to use secular laws or power to force others to believe. On topic, in my view the Harry Potter books contain as much spiritual truth as the allegorical stories of the Bible.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:55 amummmmmm, these are books of “fiction”, right?
Okay, so the right attacks a fictional character in Harry Potter, a purple puppet (?) in Teletubbies, and a yellow sponge in a cartoon.
October 23rd, 2007 at 10:24 amMeanwhile, they ignore their own non-fictional characters as lefty pointed out above.
Friggin’ hilarious. Seriously, I couldn’t make $hit like this up, and I’ve been known to be a smart ass sometimes. Seriously.
- Psycheout at Blogs 4 Brownback called it “revolting,†saying “Dumbledore is a gay homosexual who doesn’t deserve to live on G-d’s green earth.â€
A ‘gay homosexual’ eh? Does that cancel each other out, making him straight??
October 23rd, 2007 at 10:26 amHold on a second. Is Dumbledore a real person or a character in a movie? Sorry for being so ignorant, but I’ve never seen the Harry Potter books/movies. If people are talking about a fictional character here, then that’s pretty pathetic! It’s just a novel, right? It’s not reality? Or is Dumbledore a real person. Help out an ignorant fella here! Thanks!
Comment by corsair — October 22, 2007 @ 8:39 pm
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Not only is it a fictional character, but it’s a fictional character in a book series that is over. I haven’t read the books or seen the new movies, but I am pretty sure there isn’t a flash back of the old wiz on his knees smoking pole.
this is a dumb thing to get upset about.
October 23rd, 2007 at 10:35 amthis is a dumb thing to get upset about.
Welcome to Bush’s America. Home of Rush, Coulter, Hannutty, O’Reilly and Terry Schiavo.
October 23rd, 2007 at 10:37 amI have it on good authority that Agent Jack Bauer is gay.
October 23rd, 2007 at 10:51 amMcNazi- First let me say, although my cultural heritage is that I am Jewish, i do not believe in god. That aside, your comments were extremely offensive to Jews, and extremely anti-Semitic! If your to much of a low life Nazi f**k to realize it, well what’s that say about YOU! There is only one reason you went into your hateful rage last night, and that is your internal recognition of what you are, or at least what you said, and how pathetic it was. YOUR problem is that your not man enough to admit when you say something you KNOW was offensive, so your response to having it pointed out to you is to go into the hateful rage that you went into last night. My comment stands. Your nothing, but a low life, anti-Semitic, Nazi scumbag, who is such a coward that you don’t have the balls to admit your comments were completely offensive! Instead you just continue to lash out with your hate, in anger. Maybe your another one, like Daryll, that needs to get back on, or increase the dosage of your meds. You don’t just have a great deal of hate in you, but you have a ton of anger, and I find that sad. I know I wouldn’t want to go through life with that much hate, and anger inside me, so to be honest, I FEEL BAD FOR YOU!
Merlin-Don’t know what to think of you, but your agreement with McNazi doesn’t say much for your ability to recognize HATE when you see it! His original anti-Semitic post may not have been aimed at me, but it was offensive to me, and frankly I think it should be to a “secular humanist” like yourself, but your entitled to your opinion. At least your response wasn’t to fly off in a hate filled rage like McNazi, and I respect you for that. Maybe if you went back, and read ALL of McNazi’s hateful, anger filled posts in which he went into a complete rage that was aimed at me specifically, and Jews in general, you might just get what I’m talking about, but again, I give you my respect for, NOT going into a similar hate filled rage, and choosing to explain your point of view instead. I have no need for you to agree with me, but I do appreciate your point of view. You really don’t sound to me like someone who would want to stand behind the comments McNazi made, and maybe that’s because somewhere inside you can understand my point of view as well. Either way, I thank you for THE WAY you handled it vs. how the coward did!
Back to you McNazi-I don’t know if anyone else agreed with me, or not, and I could care less! I know HATE when I see it, and I no an anti-Semitic Nazi f**k coward when I see one, and that is what I encountered last night with you. I don’t need other’s to justify my feelings, or my knowledge of what is, and isn’t offensive, and in either case, although I don’t have faith in god, because I don’t believe in god, I do however have faith in people, and believe in the inherent goodness in people. With that, although nobody said it, I have NO DOUBT there were many who found your words hateful, and even more who found your anger sad, and pathetic. NO DOUBT AT ALL!
October 23rd, 2007 at 11:14 ambitbit:
You’re a follower of Christ, and yet (like so many of you) all you do is quote Paul, Paul, Paul.
Paul was a dedicated and highly educated Pharisee, who never met Christ in the flesh, before or after his death. He never once quotes the teachings of jesus, never once quotes him. Indeed, while Jesus said he came to fulfill the law, not to destroy it, Paul on many occasions spoecifically denied the law.
There were twelve disciples, eleven after Judas. Paul was not a disciple. He was a brilliant man, and by accounts a tireless organizer. But why on Earth should he be a source of doctrine? The one apostle who learned none from Jesus of Nazareth?
I’m continually amazed by Christians for whom the Book of Romans is the center of the Bible. They constantly say “The Bible says” which, 99 times out of 100 means Saul of Tarsus says. And when they ask ‘do you believe that the Bible is the Word of God?” it means “Do you accept Paul as the source of Truth?”Because quite explicitly they repudiate the old testament, except as a middens to pull stories and the occasional quote from. It’s the Word of God, but you don’t have to obey it or listen to it. And why not? Because PAUL says so!
It’s Paul who insists on Christ’s Redemption on the Cross–and the necessity to swear allegiance to Jesus. If the sins of the world were erased by his death and resurrection, don’t you think Christ himself might have mentioned it once he rose and spent a month with his disciples? ‘Oh, by the way, I washed away the sins of the world. Thought you might like to know.” And if it took death on the Cross to wipeaway sins, how is it Jesus forgave sins while he was alive? and without, it seems, breaking a sweat?
Believe it or not, it’s possible to love Jesus, follow his commandments, and even believe him God made flesh, and not believe Paul. Most of the so-called Christian churches are churches of Paul, and his exclusionary, cultic, misogynistic, homophobic tendencies are clung to as the Word of God, while the words of the man actually supposed to BE God are ignored.
October 23rd, 2007 at 11:15 amWell color me confused. Is this thread about 1) the gay homosexualness of Dumbeldore 2) God or the lack thereof 3) Anti-Semitism. Someone please let me know which topic I should make a comment about.
Thanks.
October 23rd, 2007 at 11:30 am#340 – “If only they (fundamentalists) would get at least as outraged about war, greed, selfishness, lying for political purposes, etc.” Comment by missmolly — October 23, 2007 @ 9:03 am
You’re not the only one!
I think it has to do with their particular “pick & choose” approach to the Bible. Some verses are more important than others, and when you can rile up your “base” by fabricating fake news (ie – gay marriage affects straight marriage, war on Christmas) ten the parts of the Bible that don’t support your prejudices can just be overlooked as unimportant.
October 23rd, 2007 at 11:33 am#346 – “Provide proof that he †aided terrorist organizations.— Comment by Dr. Matt — October 23, 2007 @ 10:24 am
Daryll can;t provide proof, because it never happened. It’s another canard by the ultra-radical right-whiners in the effort to distract from their destruction of the US Constitution and our economy to fund a war of occupation based on lies and the blood of our servicemembers.
October 23rd, 2007 at 11:37 am338- Dave, I don’t know what the rest of the conversation you refer to was like, but on it’s own, the question you say you asked is not the least bit anti-Semitic, and unless there was much more to your comments than your saying, whoever accused you of being anti-Semitic for asking that question is just a moron. Questioning the policies of Israel does not make someone anti-Semitic. That however is not what happened with McNazi last night. If you go back, and read all he said, you will see he went into a hate filled rage, directly attacking me, BECAUSE I was Jewish. That is the very definition of anti-semitism, and although I don’t believe in god, I will defend my heritage against such hate every time. I have no tolerance for intolerance, and that is why I have no tolerance for any fundamentalist group whether it be religious, political, or any other fundamentalist group.
I’m not asking anyone if they agree that McNazi’s comments were offensive to me personally, and Jews in general. I’m TELLING you they were! I have no need for someone to agree with me, and tell me if I was offended, or not. I know I was offended, and I know ANYONE who was personally attacked for no reason, but that they come from one particular cultural heritage, or another would be offended as well.
October 23rd, 2007 at 11:51 amPeople in hell don’t smile.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:47 pmComment by dr7854
Me thinks you protest too much.
Have you seen any good lezbo flicks lately ?
∞
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:15 pmWe are in a world of imagination. Rofl J.K Rowling is such a genius.
Prank Videos
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:21 pmI’m not asking anyone if they agree that McNazi’s comments were offensive to me personally, and Jews in general. I’m TELLING you they were! I have no need for someone to agree with me, and tell me if I was offended, or not. I know I was offended, and I know ANYONE who was personally attacked for no reason, but that they come from one particular cultural heritage, or another would be offended as well.
Comment by dr7854 — October 23, 2007 @ 11:51 am
I don’t doubt that in the end McNasty was trying to offend you personally. But you don’t speak for all Jews. You can be offended and you can state that. But you must have posted 50x yesterday, first voicing your outrage at being offended, then offending women, then apologizing for that, then demanding that your apology is accepted, then back to the hurt feelings over the initial offence. IMO you’re nuts. The fact that you’re Jewish is irrelevant… you’re just nuts. You need to give it a rest. You’re looking to be offended. Most would read the posts by McNasty, state that you didn’t appreciate them, and move on. Not you, you need to fight over it for 5 frickin’ hours. That is the definition of crazy.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:30 pmComment by dr7854 — October 23, 2007 @ 11:14 am
As somebody who was raised Jewish I feel perfectly comfortable telling you to STFU about this now. I’m also a woman so I was able to see how you can dish it out but you can’t take it.
Unfortunately the Rapture Righties are making Israel their cause celebre and idiots like Joe Lieberman associating with these nutwads and all the other Jewish Neocons who put Israel before the USA are causing these problems. When people get angry is isn’t antisemetic it is ANGER. Just like fundamentalist Christians don’t speak for all Christians and fundie Muslims don’t speak for all Muslims these right wing Jews don’t speak for all Jews. So if we hate the speaker that doesn’t make us antisemetic.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:34 pmSomeone please let me know which topic I should make a comment about.
Thanks.
Comment by IgnoranceIsNotBliss — October 23, 2007 @ 11:30 am
Apparently dr7854 thinks this thread is about him.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:36 pm“All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth“
( Nietzsche ).
Would not the developmental course of Mankind follow the same patterned matrix characteristics as that of a progenies relationship to its progenitor and primogenitor? Therefore just like the myth of Santa Claus, as that being, a temporal belief dispelled by the natural course of intellectual development. Then too, couldn’t man’s belief in an overseeing governance of justice, forgiveness and provider of hope and direction, also be a designed myth provided by convention as man’s moral compass and a wellspring of fellowship and goodwill?
Was God around for the caveman, or did he conveniently appear as mankind’s intellectual awareness of his own fragile mortality also came into being? Could not the invention of an all powerful myth, be a manifestation of man’s desire for something solid to anchor and hold onto against an unrelenting oscillating tide of universal change, and isn’t this why God appeared differently, but with the same message, simultaneously in differing cultures.
Then too, couldn’t the feared “Armageddon†represent an intellectual awakening and the end of a people’s need for religious leaders like CUFI founder John Hagee, who themselves prosper off the growing public fears and the misery of the innocent.
Because of a connate sense of belonging, when asked, individuals will always describe their political, as well as religious secular affiliations (personas) as that pertaining to their broader mindset of humanity and not necessarily referencing their individual allegiance to a monastic and/or perfunctory restrictions and responsibilities.
Therefore, referring to America’s religious community as being in and of itself, an indication of a growing American religious predominance, is disingenuous. When the fact is America’s overall religious devotion is in decline. Therein demonstrating the globally inclusive purpose of inculcating religious doctrines was to create an instinctual human sense of morality, as the advantage of leverage.
This is also, evidence that Darwin’s natural selection also pertains to, and encompasses the advancement of a collective ameliorating knowledge versus the individual’s archaic and antiquated solipsistic beliefs. Holism, where the “whole†has a greater value (reality) then the sum of its comprising parts.
Come on people get real, God is in the process and not sitting on high orchestrating and adjudicating every aspect of life. Sooner or later your going to have to realize that; God, Santa Claus, The Lone Ranger and Nietzsche’s Superman etc… are all one in the same and represent just figments (placebo) of our imagination, and as such, just epochal facets along the road of evolutionary development.
“I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for beliefâ€
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:43 pm(Kant).
I am a Christian, and I am gay. Daryl, not much of what comes out of this Bush administration is Christian, which means Christ-like. I hope you are just playing a big joke on everyone in here, because I can’t believe you are serious. I have trouble believing you are a Christian by your posts here. Get serious.
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:11 pmI think, perhaps, JKR’s point might be that yes, a character or characters in her book are gay, and guess what, they’re just like everybody else. Anyone who goes looking for homoeroticism in the Harry Potter books will come up empty-handed. Gay people are just like everyone else. And because of that, let’s get on to more pressing world topics. Our country, as well as the planet, has bigger fish to fry.
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:15 pmDon’t you folks ever get tired of character assassination? Is that all you got? Frankly, SO WHAT if Dumbledore is gay. SO WHAT if people have issues with it. It was never explored in the book and in my mind, it’s pandering by JKR … and I’m a Potter fan (as well as a Christian).
In the end, THIS IS A BOOK. It’s a work of FICTION. FANTASY. To get up in arms over something that is made up is just plain silly … ON BOTH SIDES.
Perhaps if Think Progress spent more time communicating and debating the other side and less time trying to destroy their character, the dialogue between us would much more constructive.
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:32 pmDon’t you folks ever get tired of character assassination? Is that all you got? Frankly, SO WHAT if Dumbledore is gay. SO WHAT if people have issues with it. It was never explored in the book and in my mind, it’s pandering by JKR … and I’m a Potter fan (as well as a Christian).
In the end, THIS IS A BOOK. It’s a work of FICTION. FANTASY. To get up in arms over something that is made up is just plain silly … ON BOTH SIDES.
Perhaps if Think Progress spent more time communicating and debating the other side and less time trying to destroy their character, the dialogue between us would much more constructive.
Comment by MGarrett — October 23, 2007 @ 2:32 pm
ThinkProgress is to blame for the ignorance , homophobia , hypocrisy and idiocy that permeates the ranks of the GOP and their equally imbecilic backers ?
Is that what you’re claiming ?
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:53 pmSorry
My above post should read :
“ThinkProgress is to blame for the CONTINUED ignorance”
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:57 pmAnd MGarrett , how do you propose to “communicate and debate” with those who insist on using bullshit talking points/outright lies/whatever method to apologize and deflect criticism rightly aimed at the GOP ?
That is a losing proposition ……..The GOP and their backers do not want communication and debate ; they want to continue to spew what they are told to think and say , and not think and speak for themselves……….
October 23rd, 2007 at 3:02 pmThis whole story is pretty ridiculous, I mean it’s just totally inconsequential to make some wizard gay after the fact. Why don’t we just assume that more classic characters are gay, like the Merlin from The Old Man and the Sea?
http://www.humblenarrator.com/2007/10/23/hemingways-estate-admits-giant-merlin-from-the-old-man-and-the-sea-is-gay/
October 23rd, 2007 at 3:54 pm1) I don’t care if Dumbledore is gay. It’s a friggin’ fictional character in a fictional book. 2) I don’t believe in God. I do however respect a person’s right to believe whatever it is they want to believe. 3) Nothing like a good rant now is there kiddies? (This is in reference to my post #353 and Shayne’s post @362.
October 23rd, 2007 at 4:43 pmSpeaking as a right-wing Christian muggle, this guy needs to get a life.
The inability to separate real from fantasy may indeed be the reason people like him truly believe in themselves as an intercessor to God — when the very Bible they thump says that it NOT THEIR JOB — it’s Jesus Christ’s!
Knowing full well that I’ll probably get dumped on here in the comments for saying so, there is a purpose for beliefs, spirituality, and even Christianity… but when an organized religion grows so top-heavy that it forgets that we are all pond-scum on the pyramid of power (for the unchurched, that’s: God / Angels / Humans / Animals & Plants / non-living things) compared to Christ, who is often referred to as ‘our elder brother’ in a figurative sense, but is on the God-plane, already being part of the family which is referred to as God, and led by the one called God the Father.
Now, having said all of that; I highly doubt that anyone above the human plane has any trouble discerning the the clear line between reality and fantasy — so I hardly think they’re even slightly put out by the whole thing. Perhaps only a little annoyed and saddened that humanity doesn’t read (or follow) the instructions; but hey, that’s been true ever since Adam and Eve.
October 23rd, 2007 at 5:15 pmMaybe one day they’ll put non-stereotypical black folks in books and movies.
Nah – who am I trying to kid?
October 24th, 2007 at 2:19 amHis name is an anagram.
‘Albus Dumbledore’
‘Male bods rule, bud!’
BTW, I’m straight
October 24th, 2007 at 5:56 amHomosexual Agenda
we, Richard (1994), “Homosexuality in America: Exposing the Myths,†American Family Association, [On-line], URL: http://www.afa.net/homosexual_agenda/homosexuality.pdf.
It’s twenty-four pages.
October 24th, 2007 at 4:42 pmHowe, Richard (1994), “Homosexuality in America: Exposing the Myths,†American Family Association, [On-line], URL: http://www.afa.net/homosexual_agenda/homosexuality.pdf.
October 24th, 2007 at 4:53 pm