Iraqi parliament weighs limits on U.S. presence.
By on Oct 23rd, 2007 at 11:44 am
Iraqi parliament weighs limits on U.S. presence.
Leaders in the Iraqi parliament yesterday said “that they were taking steps to examine the U.S. military presence in Iraq with an eye toward possibly restricting the force’s activities, in a continuing backlash over an American raid that Iraqi officials say killed 13 civilians.” A September poll found that 70 percent of Iraqis believe President Bush’s escalation has “worsened” their lives.
UPDATE: In May, several GOP lawmakers said that if the Iraqi parliament calls for withdrawal, they will change their positions and “respect their wishes.”
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If the Iraqi parliament passes a resolution for the US to leave, will we really withdraw?
Didn’t think so.
October 23rd, 2007 at 11:47 am“A September poll found that 70 percent of Iraqis believe President Bush’s escalation has “worsened†their lives.”
Ours too.
October 23rd, 2007 at 11:49 amAccording to bigfoot its gods will we stay so the iraqis should be in doublesecret asskick probation for disagreeing with pope bush.
October 23rd, 2007 at 11:49 amWe will see how independent the Iraq government is if it decides to reduce the US military freedom of action and even the US presence in the country.
October 23rd, 2007 at 11:50 amAttention TP:
Shouldn’t “weights” be “weighs” in your headline?
Delete this post when fixed.
October 23rd, 2007 at 11:51 ampope bush.
Comment by bob h
Was he a Nazi Youth, too?
October 23rd, 2007 at 11:51 amThat Surge sure is working, and 30% think it is better?
The WH will certainly use the propaganda line, that “the Surge is working for the Iraqi people”, GW666 or Darth Dick, of course, will leave out the fact that it is not working for 70% of the Iraqi people.
Buck Fush
October 23rd, 2007 at 11:51 amDear Iraqis:
Good luck with that.
Sincerely,
Leftside Annie
October 23rd, 2007 at 11:52 amA September poll found that 70 percent of Iraqis believe President Bush’s escalation has “worsened†their lives.
Nice to see that the phenomenon of the crazy 29 percenters isn’t confined to the U.S..
October 23rd, 2007 at 11:52 ampope bush.
Comment by bob h
Was he a Nazi Youth, too?
Comment by Wilco — October 23, 2007 @ 11:51 am
no but his grandpa did business with the nazis so that counts :)
October 23rd, 2007 at 11:52 amAnd how could 70% of Iraqis be so wrong? When we are freeing them from tyranny, bringing them democracy, and making their lives so much better?
sarc/off
Percentages don’t mean diddly-squat with our leaders. Most Iraqis think we are making things worse. Most Americans want us out of there. Yet onward Bush surges…
October 23rd, 2007 at 11:54 am70% of Americans want out of Iraq.
70% of Iraqis want Americans out of Iraq.
70% of violence has ‘dropped’.
70% increase in non-Baghdad violence.
70% of White House staff have resigned.
70% of Congress is corrupt.
70% of you reading this care.
What is it about this number??
October 23rd, 2007 at 11:56 amCongress should follow The Dick’s lead and help the Iraqis: just tell King George the Dumb to take his $75 billion and “fluck himself.”
October 23rd, 2007 at 11:57 amI wonder how did the Iraqi people get the idea that they had any say whatsoever in what happens in their country?
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:00 pmIf the Iraqi Parliment is anything like the US Democratic led Congress…
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:01 pmnothing will be done.
we just need 6 more months.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:05 pmno, really! we’re serious this time.
6 months. we promise.
oh Art… y u so clvr?
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:06 pmi wonder what that 30% is thinking?
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:06 pmIf the Iraqi Parliment is anything like the US Democratic led Congress…
nothing will be done.
Comment by Art — October 23, 2007 @ 12:01 pm
At least they are not afraid of tables.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:08 pmLooks like more people dying, and more hints for us to get out of Iraq – someone cue the token neocon to call us defeatists.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:09 pmBut Exeley says everything is great! Don’t these Iraqis read the same web sites as he does? Oh that’s right–they have no electricity.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:12 pm#18 – “i wonder what that 30% is thinking?” Comment by joe cantwell — October 23, 2007 @ 12:06 pm
Probably something along the line of “ditto!” or “la, la, la, la, la, la!”
Most probably, they’re not thinking at all.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:14 pmThe day that administration seriously thinks there is a chance that Iraq will formally ask us to leave will be the same day we declare the Iraq’s government officially failed. Then we install a new “leader” of Iraq.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:14 pmOh, and LividLib? That new leader is gonna need at least six months to get things in Iraq straightened out.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:18 pmThe day that administration seriously thinks there is a chance that Iraq will formally ask us to leave will be the same day we declare the Iraq’s government officially failed. Then we install a new “leader†of Iraq.
Comment by smgumby
Maliki / Iraqi Parliament has already been smeared to hell. Guess they sung the wrong song.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:18 pmyea…like anything that toothless, scared, corrupt iraqi parliament says means anything. we’ll go when they’re strong enough to actually tell us anything
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:19 pm70% of you reading this care.
What is it about this number??
Comment by Zimzone — October 23, 2007 @ 11:56
30% of the population have intelligence quotients so low they are unable to read and retain any data. They are only able to parrot back the latest line of crap spewed forth from Limbaugh and O’Reilly and their kind.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:24 pmSo where are biggie feet and darryll and michael and keltoi to refute this thread? HMMMMM
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:27 pmJoe Scarborough this morning already outed the new talking point. Something about how can congress deny the funds Bush is asking for when the war if finally going so well. Blah, blah, blah. It’s going well we need money its going terrible we can cut and run. More of the same old shit.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:28 pmSsshhhh, they’ll hear you.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:29 pmSo where are biggie feet and darryll and michael and keltoi to refute this thread? HMMMMM
Comment by upside99 — October 23, 2007 @ 12:27 pm
Where is Exley and his “the surge is working” crap he was posting in the ThinkFast? LOL
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:31 pmSsshhhh, they’ll hear you.
Comment by Shayne — October 23, 2007 @ 12:29 pm
Naw, they are too busy reading the newest “Harry Potter” in the bathroom, tapping 3 times for Dumbledore to show.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:35 pmSo where are biggie feet and darryll and michael and keltoi to refute this thread? HMMMMM
Comment by upside99 — October 23, 2007 @ 12:27 pm
Not much to refute….politicians are talking about making plans.
As far as the poll goes, one thing I do note is there is a major discrepancy in the numbers as far as people’s perception of how things are going in their local area as opposed to overall in Iraq. The numbers are still bad, but it seems people think things are better locally than they perceive them to be nationwide. Not sure why that would be.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:39 pmbut it seems people think things are better locally than they perceive them to be nationwide. Not sure why that would be.
Comment by Keltoi
You have a link to a poll that shows how “things are better locally”?
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:50 pmNot sure why that would be.
Comment by Keltoi — October 23, 2007 @ 12:39 pm
Not sure where you got that info, care to share?
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:56 pm**crickets chirpiing**
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:07 pm**crickets chirpiing**
Comment by Wayne — October 23, 2007 @ 1:07 pm
Crickets are the most impatient creatures….work intruded its ugly mug.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/images/US/1043a1IraqWhereThingsStand.pdf
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:12 pmFrom the same poll
“In a better result for the United States, fewer now blame U.S. or coalition forces directly for the violence occurring in Iraq — 19 percent, down from 31 percent six months ago; as many (21 percent) blame al Qaeda. (Eight percent blame George W. Bush personally.)
If the United States is unpopular, others fare no better. Seventy-nine percent of Iraqis believe Iran is actively engaged in encouraging sectarian violence in Iraq, up eight points; majorities also suspect Saudi Arabia and Syria of fomenting violence. And the poll finds almost unanimous opposition to most activities of al Qaeda in Iraq; the sole exception is its attacks on U.S. and other coalition forces. ”
So hey – 79 percent think Iran is encouraging violence, is that proof they actually are?
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:15 pmhttp://www.abcnews.go.com/ images/ US/ 1043a1IraqWhereThingsStand.pdf
Comment by Keltoi
From you link:
“More Iraqis say security in their local area has gotten worse in the last six months than say it’s gotten better”
So basicly according to this poll Iraqis think things have gotten worse locally, and even worse than that nationally.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:18 pmFrom the same poll
Comment by Keltoi — October 23, 2007 @ 1:15 pm
Unless you post a link to that poll, I’m going to consider you a liar!
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:23 pm“30% of the population have intelligence quotients so low they are unable to read and retain any data…”
Comment by Shayne
Shane, I would differ with you on that point. They can obviously read and retain well enough to vote in favor of King George the Dumb in the polls. However, your caveat about being able to spew the Repug “Talking Points” would probably be germane so I will concede your point.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:25 pmSo basicly according to this poll Iraqis think things have gotten worse locally, and even worse than that nationally.
Comment by DigDug — October 23, 2007 @ 1:18 pm
nothing another 6 months and $400 million a day can’t fix!
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:25 pmmaybe.
So basicly according to this poll Iraqis think things have gotten worse locally, and even worse than that nationally.
Comment by DigDug — October 23, 2007 @ 1:18 pm
Yeah – I said the numbers were bad. It did strike me as odd that they were less bad when Iraqis were talking about their local area, which they would presumably know more about than what was happening nationwide.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:28 pmSorry, I did not realize it had been posted in #37
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:28 pmNo worries, the links are different, one goes to the graphs, this one
http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3571504&page=1
goes to the text. Apology accepted.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:30 pmThis should be an interesting read for anybody who is interested in the subject of how the Iraqis feel right now.
Shiite-Sunni Alliance October 2007
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/IJ17Ak03.html
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:32 pmMy God… you can hear the drug induced tone to his voice… no question.
October 23rd, 2007 at 5:25 pmby time they start standing up so we can stand down. says michelle malkin and hillary clinton
October 23rd, 2007 at 6:44 pm