Conservatives too busy for hearing on Iraq war’s cost.
White House staffers aren’t the only ones “not worried” about the ultimate cost of the Iraq war. The Republicans in Congress seem equally apathetic. The House Budget Committee held a hearing today to receive testimony regarding the CBO’s estimate that the Iraq and Afghanistan wars may total $2.4 trillion. Only one Republican member of the committee attended. Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-TX) noted their absence:
Doggett: “I assume, by Mr. [Paul] Ryan (R-WI) being here, that every member of this panel, including every Republican member on that side of the aisle where all the seats are vacant, received notice about this hearing about the cost of war in Iraq?”
Spratt: “I’m sure they did.”
Doggett: “And when was this notice of the hearing sent out?”
Spratt: “Seven days ago, as required by the rules.”
The Gavel has video highlights from the hearing.
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America must ask itself how it got into this mess.
How did these fools get to the top?
Management 101 should be compulsory for elected officials.
October 24th, 2007 at 9:02 pmMore important to me, how do we stop this madness and get rid of all their sorry ases….Blessings
October 24th, 2007 at 9:05 pmEvery one of us with a Republican congressman who should have attended that meeting needs to call and ask why they were absent. Doggett is my rep, btw (yay).
* Paul Ryan, Ranking Member, Wisconsin
* Jo Bonner, Alabama
* Scott Garrett, New Jersey
* J. Gresham Barrett, South Carolina
* Thad McCotter, Michigan
* Mario Diaz-Balart, Florida
* Jeb Hensarling, Texas
* Dan Lungren, California
* Pete Sessions, Texas
* Mike Simpson, Idaho
* Patrick McHenry, North Carolina
* Connie Mack IV, Florida
* Mike Conaway, Texas
* John Campbell, California
* Pat Tiberi, Ohio
* Jon Porter, Nevada
* Rodney Alexander, Louisiana
* Adrian Smith, Nebraska
Judging by Perino’s ho-hum attitude about the outrageous cost escalation, I’m going to suspect they were told by the WH not to attend. Because it’s a meaningless number.
And these are the a-holes who complain about having to work too hard for their pay.
October 24th, 2007 at 9:08 pmYou already said that in the thread below, TCDon. And it doesn’t look any more intelligent here, where the topic is about Republicans not doing the job we pay them to do.
October 24th, 2007 at 9:17 pmEvery Post on TP lately depresses the S#%T out of me .
How sad America has become. We just bankrupt ourselves for the political gain of the ruling party just like the old soviet union.
How can we stop this?
Are these the same Republicans who call Democrats tax and spend liberals?
Why aren’t they complaining about the cost of this failed war?
October 24th, 2007 at 9:29 pm—
Exactly … this is on the minds of most except for fools such as TCDon in post #2 “The libs lose another one.”
October 24th, 2007 at 9:30 pmWe are losing our country and some on the right can only focus on the I win you lose game encouraged by hate America right nut balls radio as a method of distraction.
TCDon has the mindset of a 4th-grader, without the morals. right and wrong don’t enter into his factoring. He doesn’t see that a win for the right is a loss for America. We’ll be well rid of the GOP next year, and TDon can live out his life in the powerless minority.
October 24th, 2007 at 9:42 pmThat bill will cost my family $32,000 and I didn’t ask for it in the 1st place. I don’t know what the answer is…but I sure hope that the voters of every one of these districts with republican no-shows do us all a favor and vote these underving pricks out of office. I have problems with Democrats, but I do think most of them have our best interests at heart. I know the Republican crime syndicate serves a narrow band of interests - their own.
October 24th, 2007 at 9:51 pmHow much of the supposed 2.4 trillion has been poured into the U.S. Economy? How many jobs have been created? How much has been paid back in tax dollars? Until you know the answers to these questions, talking only about “cost†is meaningless.
Comment by TCDon — October 24, 2007 @ 9:09 pm
why don’t you give us the answers, you moron? how much has been diverted to offshore bank accounts is a more relevant question. how much is going into the pockets of the very wealthy, who have given up their souls and patriotism for money? How many jobs is the life of an American soldier worth? and the answers will make you sick, unless you are another soulless, thoughtless robot of the right, with no moral center and no sense of justice. You and y8ours are taking the USA down the path to weakness and irrelevance in the world, where none respect us, and, with the weakening of the dollar and the military, none fear us either. Everything you’ve done is wrong, and harmful.
October 24th, 2007 at 9:55 pmThe Conservatives were busy defeating the Dream Act.
And the TRAITORS were CUTTING AND RUNNING from the GENOCIDE that THEY ande TRAITOR Bush the MURDERER coxucker PUNK caused.
October 24th, 2007 at 9:57 pmThe Conservatives were busy defeating the Dream Act. Another win for the President. The Dream Act was blocked on a 52-44 vote today, falling eight votes short of the 60 needed to bring the bill to the Senate floor. While today’s vote was technically on a “motion to proceed†— a parliamentary measure about bringing the bill to the floor — both sides knew this vote was the make-or-break vote on the bill. The libs lose another one.
Comment by TCDon — October 24, 2007 @ 9:04 pm
And, apparently, the conservatives are incapable of doing more than one thing at a time, much like an inability to walk and chew gum.
October 24th, 2007 at 10:00 pmLet’s see, they started the war but are too busy to be at a hearing concerning its cost?
October 24th, 2007 at 10:01 pmMust be social conservatives–not a fiscal conservatise in the whole stinking bouquet!
October 24th, 2007 at 10:04 pmYou can’t look at the economic cost without looking at the offsetting economic benefit. How much of the supposed 2.4 trillion has been poured into the U.S. Economy? How many jobs have been created? How much has been paid back in tax dollars? Until you know the answers to these questions, talking only about “cost†is meaningless.
Comment by TCDon — October 24, 2007 @ 9:09 pm
SAME cut-and-paste on 3 forums, so my answer to the RIGHTWING nutcase:
More RIGHTWING WACKJOB LIES.
War industry is CAPITAL INTENSIVE. The money benefits VERY FEW.
On the other hand, if you have $250,000 to build a home (or whatever the area bears), that money spent on a properly built home will feed
SEVERAL FAMILIES (electrical, plumbing, etc.), and when the home is completed, it will STILL be worth $250,000 or MORE.
THAT is how job creation works and benefits MANY.
When you blow up a bomb, there is NOTHING LEFT of value.
Again, only a FEW benefit from WAR.
So, if COST is “meaninglessâ€, WHY didn’t Bush’s people tell us what the COST would be??
EVERY country that has war has PLANNERS who KNOW an approximate value.
When Bush’s WAR CRIMINAL SHILLS were asked in 2002 and 2003 HOW MUCH the war would cost, the answer was “we have NO IDEAâ€.
WAR CRIMINAL LIARS and TRAITORS to the USA.
From TRAITOR Bush on down to supporters like YOU.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
October 24th, 2007 at 10:05 pmThe libs lose another one.
Comment by TCDon — October 24, 2007 @ 9:04 pm
My God, yer a cluess, repulsive *sshole.
October 24th, 2007 at 10:19 pmTCDon - ???? Just how long will it take you and your descendants/family to pay JUST for the $9 BILLION dollars of those famous pallets of cash lost under Bremers rule? Mr “Blackwater” Price made several million dollars “recycling” our taxpayer funds and lord knows what value the PR Agency will get to correct the image of American Mercenaries shooting random civilians - yea creating lots . . .
Just think if that $2.4 TRILLION had been spent on schools, educational scholarships, alternate energy research, health care system, job corp/renew America programs or even the cheaper more direct boost to the economy of giving $500 to every man in $1 bills to spend in strip clubs and each person and child a Sears Charge Card with $500 prepaid . . . NOW there would be a real boost to the economy . . . and save a huge budget deficit.
Mindsets like your has taken a great country and made America an international bad joke and our pResident the world madman with a gun . . .
October 24th, 2007 at 10:19 pmComment by Lefty Patriot
“you are another soulless, thoughtless robot of the right, with no moral center and no sense of justice.”
You could have just shortened that post to this. Covers it all.
TCDonkeyA$$ is not the sharpest tool in the shed, and just spew pure repukian crap.
Buck Fush
October 24th, 2007 at 10:26 pmAmericans don’t mind how much the GOP and White House spends. 2.4 Trillion dollars is nothing as the GOP will just give the taxpayers the bill. We have a National Debt now of 9 Trillion dollars and Bush wants 48 Billion for Iraq and 500 Million to Mexico. Yet no money for Children’s Health Care. The American people put these Law Makers in office to represent them so I guess this is what the people want their Law Makers to do or they would vote them out. After Bush leaves office Americans will get the bill and every American man, woman, child and unborn child will have to pay 20,000 in taxes to over the US Treasury that was robbed. Contracts who are friends of the White House make more money the General Petraeus. No wonder no one wants to join the Military.
October 24th, 2007 at 10:36 pmTell the young man he would get 83 dollars an hour as a US soldier or Blackwater contractor gets 600 per hour.
When it comes to educating our kids, when it comes to cleaning up the environment, when it comes to anything that doesn’t directly benefit Bush and his wealthy supporters, the Republicans don’t believe in spending one red cent without proof positive that it will yield a specific result. To that end, they’ll gladly spend hundreds of millions of dollars to do studies, year after year, before spending an equal amount to take action.
But, when it comes to throwing hundreds of billions down a rat hole in the Middle East, they don’t have to itemize the costs, they don’t have to present a plan, they don’t even have to state a specific goal or say when the job will be finished or how they’ll be able to tell when the job is finished. It’s just “Give me more money or you’re with the terrorists.”
This country is being irreparably damaged in a million different ways by Bush’s policies, and the Republicans are so dense, so partisan, and so self-absorbed that they don’t give a shit.
October 24th, 2007 at 10:36 pmHere’s some good news - the surge is working!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,304920,00.html
October 24th, 2007 at 10:42 pmHow sad America has become. We just bankrupt ourselves for the political gain of the ruling party just like the old soviet union.
How can we stop this?
Comment by overlap — October 24, 2007 @ 9:29 pm
We go bankrupt, crash into economic chaos and social stagnation, lay low for a decade or so, and then come back. Worked for the Soviet Union, right? And Bon Jovi, for that matter.
October 24th, 2007 at 10:46 pmYou and yours are taking the USA down the path to weakness and irrelevance in the world, where none respect us, and, with the weakening of the dollar and the military, none fear us either. Everything you’ve done is wrong, and harmful.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — October 24, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
Best quote of the day. And what’s sad is that they don’t see anything wrong with this.
October 24th, 2007 at 10:48 pmdebate like a gentleman in an intellectually honest way
Comment by lmjp1
You are mistakingly assuming that they have honor, moral or for that matter anything human about them, repukians are all the same, the lowest of the low.
Buck Fush
October 24th, 2007 at 10:57 pmI think we might know why the costs are skyrocketing for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
According to Juan Cole the military has changed strategy and is not calling in air support to bomb apartment buildings rather than going after suspected terrorists with ground forces.
http://www.juancole.com/
This is having a positive impact on American’s killed in Iraq but the civilian deaths are soaring from these bombing raids.
October 24th, 2007 at 11:38 pmYeah, those Repukes are too busy. all right.
Busy molesting boys, hiding their gayness and beating up two year olds for their health care money.
October 24th, 2007 at 11:55 pmOh, yeah - I forgot about the immigrants they pick on, and the Al Qaeda gumballs they protect us from.
*eyeroll*
October 24th, 2007 at 11:58 pmThe libs lose another one.
Comment by TCDon
And you must be so proud. The only way the Republicans can “win” is to obstruct the Democrats. Funny thing, I remember when the Republicans were threatening to go “nuclear” on the Democrats for even discussing the possibility of a filibuster. It’s too bad that the Democrats didn’t allow them to do it. If they had, a lot more would be getting done in Washington other than to watch the Republicans “winning” by filibuster.
October 25th, 2007 at 12:09 amWe’ll be well rid of the GOP next year, and TDon can live out his life in the powerless minority.
Comment by Lefty Patriot
Unless of course his head explodes. That would be a real plus for this country.
October 25th, 2007 at 12:16 amComment by TCDon — October 24, 2007 @ 9:09 pm
SAME cut-and-paste on 3 forums, so my answer to the RIGHTWING nutcase:
That’s because that is all this Right Wing Loon is capable of. He goes to the RNC headquarters and gets his talking points. He then comes here and pastes them on every thread. Personally I think we should all do with him what we do with a pile of horse shit in the middle of the road. Just walk around him and wait for someone to come clean up the mess. We don’t need to clean it up at all.
IGNORE THE IGNORANT TROLL! I am sorry I reacted to him and I promise not to do it again. He’s not worthy of our recognition in any way.
October 25th, 2007 at 12:22 amThe terror-publicans like to talk about the boost to the economy that comes from a tax cut. What would be the effect of dropping 2 trillion on the economy ? What sort of drag on the economy will paying that off be.
Using the $32,000 figure cited by Innocent Bystander in #10, what could we do with $32k per family. Of course the healthcare. But $32 k would pay for attending many colleges for multiple years. $32 k is a significant downpayment for the public good of home ownership, etc. etc.
October 25th, 2007 at 12:24 amIGNORE THE IGNORANT TROLL! I am sorry I reacted to him and I promise not to do it again. He’s not worthy of our recognition in any way.
Comment by bilbobaggins — October 25, 2007 @ 12:22 am
I would also suggest that we report them for abuse and ask that they be removed from the TP site.
October 25th, 2007 at 12:54 amPretty damn ballsy of the entire GOP membership of the House Budget Committee to not bother to show up for a hearing about Iraq War costs. They had seven days notice about the meeting.
What a day. These clowns are absent from a crucial hearing and Air-head Perino proclaims that the Budget Committee figures are “a ton of speculation.” Dana, this comment is so mind-bogglingly stupid that I can’t even think of a response.
But I do know that each of the GOP members of the Budget Committee should be held in contempt of Congress. They should then be forced off the Committee so that members who care about the costs of Bush’s disastrous War can meet and decide how to pay for this mess.
October 25th, 2007 at 1:01 amNOTHING!
Comment by michael — October 25, 2007 @ 1:08 am
Go F-!!! yerself, ya clueless windbag.
You have no stance, no solutions, noting but endless attitude.
WHAT… An F-in’ LOOOOOOSSSEEERRRRR!!!
October 25th, 2007 at 1:24 amDisastrous war? Please explain?
Comment by michael — October 25, 2007 @ 1:05 am
3,834 dead US soldiers
27,000 wounded, many mained, crippled & disfigured.
Untold 10s of thouands of dead Iraqis who had NOTHING to do w/ 9/11.
Worst budget deficits in US histroy.
Entire ME near kindling point.
The bloodthirsty moron in the WH has triggered a new arms race w/ his trigger-happy cowboy pseudo-tough guy nonsense. Chinese arming up, Russians re-arming.
The Iraq Invasion and Occupation has been a Jihadi’s recruiting Dream-Come-true.
9/10s of the world now despise the US.
No doubt this clueless, dickless, con clown will brush all the facts aside w/ a sneer and call us all “dopes” and we don’t deserve having our worthless asses saved… blah-blah-blah… he’s a broken’f-in’ record of mindless, irrational, hideoulsy dishonest SELF-PITY and HATE…
October 25th, 2007 at 1:33 am“But, but, you’re the majority? And you still aren’t smart enough to beat us! All the talk about how you were going to make major changes in the first 100 days? NOTHING!”
Comment by michael
Mission Accomplished for obstructionist republicretins.
Nice to see you’ve finally dropped the nom-de-troll.
October 25th, 2007 at 1:43 amAll the talk about how you were going to make major changes in the first 100 days? NOTHING!
Comment by michael — October 25, 2007 @ 1:08 am
You got your ass handed to you in the first 100 days, and that pace will quadruple next year, when your treason will be punished by you having the minority for the next 50 years. In 7 years, you’ve accomplished nothing but taking us backwards, losing 3 wars, devastating the economy, making America a weak-kneed laughingstock worldwide, and wiping yourselves with the Constitution. and none of your precious rightwing goals have been accomplished, not one. What a crew of failures you all are, with your spineless coward Bush leading you all over the cliff!
October 25th, 2007 at 1:45 am>Disastrous war? Please explain?
Don’t bother trying to cite any evidence to micheal. ANY site that says anything that refutes the right wing claims he makes will be dismissed as “slander”, even if the website was cited by Dick Cheney in a debate
amazingly, micheal never seems to have anything to say on any topic which drug addict rush and tranny ann havent made any public statements about…when bush cronies speak the truth and get fired he has nothing to say… when our allies the turks start bombing our allies the kurds he has nothing to say because the concept of two groups we are allied with hating each other creates too much cognitive dissonance for his puny mind to handle. yes another fake millionaire/veteran pretending he’s something other than an angry little brat…
October 25th, 2007 at 1:51 amI’m watching re runs of the hearing right now, and it’s disgusting how completely disconnected from political reality the republicans are on the commitee. Trying to make the case that Iraq war spending isn’t different from other previous wars is baloney.
There was little or no off-budget spending during previous wars, correct?
October 25th, 2007 at 1:54 amBut, but, you’re the majority? And you still aren’t smart enough to beat us! All the talk about how you were going to make major changes in the first 100 days? NOTHING!
Comment by michael — October 25, 2007 @ 1:08 am
We are, but congress permits minority obstructionism. You know, like the minority childish tantrums you throw here.
Don’t worry though, little ‘tard, we’ll fix that in 2009!
October 25th, 2007 at 1:58 amDisastrous war? Please explain?
Comment by michael — October 25, 2007 @ 1:05 am
BAHAHAHA, the fact you NEED an explanation PROVES that those GI BILL DOLLARS were wasted on you ‘tard!
October 25th, 2007 at 1:58 amIsn’t that mommy and daddie’s responsibility? It is NOT the responsibility of taxpayers to pay for the health care of low lifes kids!
Comment by michael — October 25, 2007 @ 1:02 am
Wasn’t it your responsibility to pay for your own college? What about to protect your house from fire and criminals? What’s government for? Who needs government help, except people like you, when you need it?
Hypocritical old fool! You deserve to burn in hell!
October 25th, 2007 at 2:00 amHow is this a failed war?
Comment by michael — October 25, 2007 @ 12:59 am
BAHAHA, well lets see. Things are worse there than before we started. There are more terrorists, more regional conflicts brewing, and we’ve wasted 2 trillion in American dollars to MAKE THINGS WORSE!
Then again, you wingnuts wouldn’t know success if it bit you on your selfish ‘tarded *sses!
October 25th, 2007 at 2:01 am“The libs lose another one.
Comment by TCDonâ€
THANK GOD!
Comment by michael — October 25, 2007 @ 12:57 am
Yes, but every time you win an obstructionist vote like this, you lose more voters! Keep it up, I’m all for it! You’re paying with voters, that’s why 51% of them are now registered Democrats and only 35% are registered Republican! That’s a 16% spread, even more than the 12% of voter spread that crushed you in 2006! Thanks USEFUL IDIOTS!
October 25th, 2007 at 2:03 am“when our allies the turks start bombing our allies the kurds he has nothing to say because the concept of two groups we are allied with hating each other creates too much cognitive dissonance for his puny mind to handle.”
You should have seen Upright Loon today, after I suggested that the Israeli’s might have done a better job of invading Iraq than we did - I could almost hear the Cheetos bag exploding in his pudgy little paws.
The ongoing conservative Chernobyl is a Real Bad Thing - it means comedians will have to subsist on stale Hillary Clinton jokes after ‘08.
God help us all.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:06 amTCDon is an annoying twit and a typical intellectually and morally dishonest Republican, but there is no way he is as stupid as michael, whose mind-numbing idiocy has now exceeded even that of the notoriously stupid Patrick1.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:12 amComment by VerbalKint
Daryll.
And if I might add… Hallelujah!
October 25th, 2007 at 2:20 amTCDon is an annoying twit and a typical intellectually and morally dishonest Republican, but there is no way he is as stupid as michael, whose mind-numbing idiocy has now exceeded even that of the notoriously stupid Patrick1.
Comment by VerbalKint —
Perhaps we should devise a color-coded troll-rating system?
Brown would be the worst…
October 25th, 2007 at 2:24 am>Upright Loon today, after I suggested that the Israeli’s might have done a >better job of invading Iraq than we did
I did see that.. I was especially amused by the part where he said “well I suppose that would make alot of muslims unhappy”. how many times have people like him ever taken that into consideration!
October 25th, 2007 at 2:54 amoh, and mikey, for the record, where do you stand on adoption?.. you know… any parent in the united states can give thier kid up for adoption, at which point the kid becomes 100 percent reliant on you, the taxpayer.
how do you feel about that micheal? which is worse, an abortion you dont have to pay for, or an unwanted child who lives solely off your tax dollars?
October 25th, 2007 at 2:56 am>Hypocritical old fool!
His writing and capitalization style does not resemble that of an old man. I have yet to see any old people who rely so heavily on thier caps lock key to try to add weight to thier arguments. all it does it make him look like a hysterical pre-pubescent fool. if he’s not a teenage kid, he does a darn good job of acting like one..
October 25th, 2007 at 2:59 amp.s. I highly suspect Upright Cleft of being female..
October 25th, 2007 at 3:04 amBut, but, you’re the majority? And you still aren’t smart enough to beat us! All the talk about how you were going to make major changes in the first 100 days?
Comment by michael — October 25, 2007 @ 1:08 am
michael, despite your repeated boasting here over the months about your “superior” private school education, you’re still not educated or smart enough even to know about the origins of the National Guard–let alone to distinguish between the usage of a question mark (?) and a period (.) You’re too stupid even to realize that you’ve been beaten at every point you’ve brought up here.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:19 am>You’re too stupid even to realize that you’ve been beaten
> at every point you’ve brought up here.
Dude.. he supports bush.. these people believe failure only occurs if you acknowledge it…
and if he’d truly gone to Pepperdine he’d know his precious private school gets federal funding just like every other institution of higher learning in this country does.. if it wern’t for that money he’d have paid a higher tuition, but I doubt he went to the registrars office and demanded to pay the full tuition cost…
October 25th, 2007 at 3:40 am“I would also suggest that we report them for abuse and ask that they be removed from the TP site.
Comment by hterryaâ€
What abuse?
Comment by michael — October 25, 2007 @ 1:03 am
This troll’s ignorance is apparent in this post alone. Please help remove ALL the trolls from the TP site, by reporting them EVERY TIME they distract from the topic, as this troll ALWAYS does.
The topic: Republican irresponsible “NO SHOWS” at an IMPORTANT House Budget Committee meeting.
Personal and collective responsibility and accountability on the part of self-labeled “conservatives” seem to be non-existent.
October 25th, 2007 at 5:24 amWhat abuse?
Comment by michael — October 25, 2007 @ 1:03 am
Thanks for being liberal traitors! The enemies within.
October 25th, 2007 at 6:04 amComment by michael — October 25, 2007 @ 1:36 am
Iran used the commemoration of Saddams attack to present new weaponry. Iran built an air force base next to the Afghan border, despite it has recently produced smart bombs and an 1 ton missile reaching out up2 southern Europe
NYTimes:BlackwaterUSA
October 25th, 2007 at 6:51 amccokz
Polish elections too. The Poles just voted in a government which ran on the “Lets get the heck out of Iraq” ticket.
So much for the coalition of the willing hey?
October 25th, 2007 at 7:32 amAt least the Poles have the presence of mind to admit their mistake in being duped by Bush’s lies and cut their losses before it’s too late. No doubt that a “leave Iraq now” platform wins elections there! Where the hell are our feeble Congressional minds right now? This war is a sham - an expensive, bloody sham which was all about “blood for oil” in the first place.
October 25th, 2007 at 7:49 amBAHAHA, well lets see. Things are worse there than before we started. There are more terrorists, more regional conflicts brewing, and we’ve wasted 2 trillion in American dollars to MAKE THINGS WORSE!
Then again, you wingnuts wouldn’t know success if it bit you on your selfish ‘tarded *sses!
Comment by republicans hate facts — October 25, 2007 @ 2:01 am
Um, how does that make it a failed war?
All the administration has to do is change the metrics and say that their intent was to create more terrorists, destabilize the region, blow $2.4 trillion of China’s money, and cause death or severe injury to thousands of Americans, and kill or displace millions of innocent Iraqis.
By that standard, this war has been a resounding success. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
October 25th, 2007 at 8:04 amI would also suggest that we report them for abuse and ask that they be removed from the TP site.
Comment by hterrya
We could do that. But it would be ever so much more entertaining to just ignore them and watch them start screaming, waving their hands in the air saying “look at me”. Because that’s what happens when we ignore them. Poor Jake had to come back as a new personality because no one would talk to him any more.
October 25th, 2007 at 9:17 amWhere the hell are our feeble Congressional minds right now? This war is a sham - an expensive, bloody sham which was all about “blood for oil†in the first place.
Comment by Veritas
It isn’t a way and we need to stop calling it one. Calling it a war gives it legitimacy. What we are in is an occupation of a foreign country that doesn’t want us there. You can’t “win” an occupation. All you can hope for is the complete subordination of the populace, but that is in no way “winning”.
October 25th, 2007 at 9:20 amGOP motto: What? Me worry?
October 25th, 2007 at 9:27 amMichael: “Disastrous war? Please explain?”
Michael evidently also doesn’t understand how a war which the OMB says will cost every man, woman and child in the USA $8,000 apiece not counting interest on the foreign debt used to finance.
And, on top of that, Michael wants to know “how is this a failed war?”
Michael evidently revels in his cluelessness and loves to post obnoxious, obtuse, absurd questions as if they were subject to debate. I suggest that nobody here even attempt to explain ANYTHING to this sick sociopathic cultist.
October 25th, 2007 at 12:22 pmMichael, the “enemy within” would be Americans who seek, by their voting and positions, to make America weaker, to make our country and the world less safe and to bankrupt our people and insitutions.
October 25th, 2007 at 12:26 pmLet’s keep in mind that republicans roundly criticized Kerry and Edwards for suggesting that the war would cost more than $300 billion. Do conservatives hold repubs responsible for their horrible miscalculations and lying about the costs of the war? Of course not. Edwards was right on about the cost of the war, but he does live in a big house and spends a lot on his haircuts. Kerry? Well, he practices the vile habit of board surfing.
October 25th, 2007 at 12:37 pmUpright Loon today, after I suggested that the Israeli’s might have done a >better job of invading Iraq than we did
Hey, wasn’t that the POINT? To have the US fight Isreali wars for them?
It really isn’t right to pin this ALL on Republicans, although I do recognize that posting about Iraqgate probably isn’t going to be too popular on this site. It’s still hovering around IN THE BACKGROUND, though, and time will show that hard questions are still going to be asked about it before any election with Hiliary in it comes to be … How can CONgress be so dense? Well, the bribery and corruption rampant in DC would seem to cover that area pretty well.
October 25th, 2007 at 9:59 pm