"I got God on my side
And I'm just trying to survive
What if what you do to survive
Kills the things you love
Fear's a powerful thing, baby
It can turn your heart black you can trust
It'll take your God filled soul
And fill it with devils and dust"
National security considerations extend beyond the need for hard proof. Sometimes you just gotta act. By the way, I said bomb Iran strategically, not "bomb Iran to strategically alleviate concerns"
In light of Romney acting like Obama / Osama was an innocent mistake to be laughed off, and of Rommel seeming to be pumping the war machine, may I suggest that Mitt Romney would really appreciate the joke of noting the similarity of Romney to Erwin Rommel ?
Mutt Rommel is a fool. Everything he does is just a lousy attempt to get a vote. Ruddy 9/11 polls better than Rommel because the reichwing nutjobs think that 9/11 will start WWIII faster. Rommel's just trying to get some points away from 9/11.
I called senators this morning to say it's unconscionable to give 196 BILL for an EMERGENCY request for war when tucked inside ofit is 88Mill to equip a Stealth bimber with a MOP. Where would we need stealth bomber equipped with a nuclear bunker buster other than Iran? Where?
I cried and went to work.
Bombing Iran is the beginning of the end. 1.2 Billion Muslims will not stand for it. WWIII will commence at that point.
Everyone better start figuring out what they are going to do when all hell breaks loose.
If King George and Darth are allowed to do what they intend your life as you know it will cease to exist.
National security considerations extend beyond the need for hard proof. Sometimes you just gotta act. By the way, I said bomb Iran strategically, not “bomb Iran to strategically alleviate concernsâ€
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
Ah NO. If national security considerations did not need hard proof then the nation can do anything to any country - oh wait - they have!
And NO you said "Bombing Iran - strategically - will alleviate a lot of concerns".
Let me rephrase my question. How will bombing Iran - strategically - alleviate a lot of concerns?
What will Iran do after we bomb them? Decide they don't need WMD? Decide they love Israel? Or do you think they might react rather violently? All out warfare spilling throughout the Middle East? Bring the war to our soil? I think these are the most likely scenarios.
"Sometimes you just gotta act" is not a foreign policy. and you gotta realize the problems presented by saudi arabia and pakistan are much more pressing. and you gotta realize the difference between sunni and shiite, so you can explain to people why you're ignoring al qaeda again.
The major flaw in Romney's statement is that Iran has never stated that it intends to build a nuclear bomb. Rather, they have always maintained that they wish to build a nuclear facility in order to facilitate energy production for their country. This is why this country is in a constant state of paranoia because of reckless statements by superpatriots like Romney. The irony is that chickenhawks like Romney are so quick to subscribe going to war while they themselves have never set foot in a combat zone while wearing a military uniform. Their motto seems to be more war as long as they or their children are not forced to fight in the wars which they are so fervently advocate.
Exactly. If we suspect Iran of harboring a nuclear weapon, or of developing that capability, we should stop them. Period. In my opinion, we shouldn't be looking for the asymptotic final proof - you'll never get it.
The concerns it will alleviate are related to our existence, under the "If my existence in threatened, I will strike" philosophy
"National security considerations extend beyond the need for hard proof. Sometimes you just gotta act."
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
And we have seen the results of what can happen when leaders who "just gotta act" bomb other countries with not only a lack of hard proof of anything, but even a lack of compelling evidence.
Look how much our national security has improved as a result of our bombing and invading Iraq. Let's see -- everywhere I travel in this country, I'm informed that the terror threat is "orange", Al Qaeda has ramped back up to pre-9/11 levels because our actions are the best recruiting tool they have, and so much more of the world hates us.
For God's sake, just stop feeding the troll. He's just puking on the keyboard in hopes of getting a reaction out of you guys. That's how he gets his entertainment.
Great, Mitt, you support bombardment. Now let's see you put your money and family where your mouth is. Demand that your spoiled brats you call "children" do their duty and fight for your values in the middle East, you hypocrite.
Bombing Iran will put over 200,000 Iranian troops into Iraq. The Shiites will split from the fragile govt. with many joining the ranks of the Iranians to oust the "occupiers". Turkey will bomb northern Iraq to put an end to the PKK and any supporters. Turkey will also invade northern Iraq to increase a bufferzone between Iran and themselves. Russia will supply Iran with arms further increasing the tension between us and Russia. Our military will cry out for a draft and an increase in the military budget tenfold. The tax cuts will be repealed, or Bush will attempt to continue and push a supplemental spending bill. Something that congress will not allow.
All of this and more will happen. So Hits, why do you think bombing Iran is a good thing?
The concerns it will alleviate are related to our existence, under the “If my existence in threatened, I will strike†philosophy
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
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So you believe that if we bomb Iran, they will decide they don't want nuclear weapons? We already made ourselves look like fools to the international community by invading Iraq due to WMD, then finding none. Are you ready to do it all again, just to find nothing? Realize, even if they are not working towards a nuclear weapon now, after we bomb them, that will convince them that they REALLY need nukes. Now more than ever. They are NOT going to just sit there peacefully after we bomb them. Right now they are not a threat. At all. After we bomb them, they will become a GIANT threat.
Sometimes, one's actions don't seem necessary. But that's Monday morning quarterbacking. If I know everything there is to know, I wouldn't have acted on Iraq. But I didn't. I suspected something was wrong. The risk of inaction was greater than the cost of action. I acted. Things didn't work out. Too bad. I survive. Hence I win.
Exactly. If we suspect Iran of harboring a nuclear weapon, or of developing that capability, we should stop them. Period. In my opinion, we shouldn’t be looking for the asymptotic final proof - you’ll never get it.
The concerns it will alleviate are related to our existence, under the “If my existence in threatened, I will strike†philosophy
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
I suspect that you are trying to kill me. I have no evidence to support this idea, but I suspect it very strongly, and I don't have time to look for any conclusive proof of this.
Therefore, I kindly request that you give me your home address, so that I can break into your residence and stab you in the throat while you sleep. My security depends on it.
I'm sure you'll understand this tactical decision.
Killing to ‘alleviate concerns’ is survivalistic, not sociopathic
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
I'm concerned that the guy next door has weird hair. In order to alleviate my concern, I'm going over there and shooting him dead. It's a matter of survival, after all.
Exactly. If we suspect Iran of harboring a nuclear weapon, or of developing that capability, we should stop them. Period. In my opinion, we shouldn’t be looking for the asymptotic final proof - you’ll never get it.
The concerns it will alleviate are related to our existence, under the “If my existence in threatened, I will strike†philosophy
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
Exactly!!?!!! WTF? There has been NO evidence that Iraq was threatening anyone other than themselves - and that hasn't been a criteria for invasion in the past or present - although there are countries where the world should step in and prevent countries from killing their own.
There are a few countries that do have nuclear weapons including Pakistan and North Korea. No bombing of them to alleviate concerns.
Your a moron if you believe that your existence (or America's) is threatened by Iran. That is so laughable. Your superstitions have blocked your ability to think.
By being very strategic about what you hit, what you destroy and what you replace it with, all of the factors you point out can be turned around for our benefits.
hits--your comment to missmolly is DISGUSTING. Have you read a paper or looked at the news lately? What have you WON? Thousands and thousand and thousand of people are dead. That's not winning.
On the contrary, it will set them back many years. I do not assume they will sit back and be happy. They were not sitting back and being happy under Reagan or Clinton either. It doesn't matter. You gotta strike first before you are hit - now or 30 years from now. Why is now better? Because you have the ability to do so now. You may not 30 years from now.
more importantly, if that's your 8th-grade idea of foreign policy, then china and russia are bigger threats, now and in the future, than iran will ever be. so your priorities are ridiculous by anyone's logic.
Toasterhead,
Your actions under this hypothetical situation are justifiable, although indefensible in a court of law
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:58 pm
Things didn’t work out. Too bad. I survive. Hence I win.
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
Just as we've always said. 3900 dead and 30,000 wounded Americans for your gamble. Which is ok as long as you didn't have to participate in the risk. Your definition of winning is just pathetic.
The risk of inaction was greater than the cost of action. I acted. Things didn’t work out. Too bad. I survive. Hence I win.
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
Funny, that was the defense the Nazis used at Nuremberg, speaking of sociopaths! You're in GOOD COMPANY JAKE!
Exactly. If we suspect Iran of harboring a nuclear weapon, or of developing that capability, we should stop them. Period. In my opinion, we shouldn’t be looking for the asymptotic final proof - you’ll never get it.
The concerns it will alleviate are related to our existence, under the “If my existence in threatened, I will strike†philosophy
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
If our existence was truly threatened, I'd be all for removing that threat. I just don't believe that Iran getting a nuclear bomb would be a threat to us. They wouldn't be able to use it without their entire country being obliterated, and they know it.
You also suggest that we should "stop them" from harboring a nuclear weapon. Does this "stop them" recommendation extend to other countries with nukes? Do you advocate invasions of the United Kingdom, France, Russia, China, Israel, India, Pakistan, North Korea, etc.?
Sometimes, one’s actions don’t seem necessary. But that’s Monday morning quarterbacking. If I know everything there is to know, I wouldn’t have acted on Iraq. But I didn’t. I suspected something was wrong. The risk of inaction was greater than the cost of action. I acted. Things didn’t work out. Too bad. I survive. Hence I win.
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
Ha ha ha. Listen to the little boy sitting at home on his mommy's computer pretending that "he" acted. You didn't act. If "you" had acted you would have joined the fighting. What you are doing is sitting at home acting like you have the courage of your convictions. You don't You're all talk, that's all you have. You survive because others die. But not because or your actions. Like Ghouliani you don't have the courage to put your life at risk. Pussy!
Do you advocate invasions of the United Kingdom, France, Russia, China, Israel, India, Pakistan, North Korea, etc.?
Comment by missmolly — October 25, 2007 @ 3:01 pm
I think we should consider invading ourselves to prevent us from dropping a nuclear bomb on ourselves. Considering we dropped a nuclear bomb on one of our closest allies, Japan, I don't think we can be trusted.
I personally believe Palestinians could have won their lands back if they had protested peacefully and appealed to world opinion.
Noone can side with these barefoot rpg-toting zealots.
Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover — October 25, 2007 @ 3:03 pm
Actually, most of the world has sided with the Palestinians and is against Israeli apartheid. It's only the U.S. and maybe Micronesia who's on the other side.
Hit's, how does 200,000 Iranian troops swarming into Iran turn into a benifit for us? Would you support a draft? How about a plan to pay for this escalation? How would a closer relationship of Iran and Russia help us?
Are you advocating using nuclear weapons as a preemptive strike? If so, then what rationale do you hang your hat on that the rest of the world will sit back?
Caught that as well Dave C. What action did Hits really take?
Comment by hellinabucket — October 25, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
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No SH!T!!! That's just what I thought. The little dude is out of his f'ing mind!
Right.. Palestinians should have protested peacefully.... Umm.. they did.. and they went to the UN who passed several resoultions saying their land and homes should be given back or they should be compensated... and those resolutions were and continue to be ignored... The media paints Israel, the peeps who forcibly pushed them out from their homes and land, as the victims..
What then? Keep protesting peacefully??
Even peaceful protesters--those who organize strikes against participating in Israeli courts, are thrown in jail. What then? When you are jailed for non-violent protest? Just sit back and watch as another family lives in the house that your own parents or grandparents built with their own two hands?? Is that what you would do? Tens of thousands of requests for compensation for homes taken were submitted through legal channels.. and what have the Palestinians to show for it?? What must happen for the world to see the injustice that has been wrought upon them? They continue to die in far greater numbers than Israelis, and be jailed and tortured, and yet the Israelis are still the "victims". What now?
--I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m pretty friggin’ tired of my money being used to cater to the whims of a spoiled brat.
Comment by IgnoranceIsNotBliss--
What's sad is that chimpy's act of aggression was all about money--money that he could steal from the US treasury to keep for himself and all of chimpco. They had it planned long before 9/11. What a thrill they got after 9/11 when they realized that they could use 9/11 as a selling point for their attack on Iraq.
Things didn’t work out. Too bad. I survive. Hence I win.
Comment by hits
Seriously, how can anyone address this moron after this?
Comment by Juan C. — October 25, 2007 @ 2:54 pm
You're right -- with this post, "hits" has confirmed his philosophy that this is all a game, and all that matters is to be the last man standing. Killing thousands of other human beings unnecessarily means nothing to him. Instigating wars because something MIGHT be amiss is perfectly OK with him (which means that he's OK with the 9/11 terrorists who attacked the United States because we were a threat to their agenda, because after all, to them, the cost of their inaction was greater than the cost of their action, right?).
This line of thinking is way too seriously twisted to be worthy of intellectual debate.
Guido? you clearly haven't watched or read newspapers in the rest of the world much.
also. most UN Resolutions on the Palestinian/Israeli conflict go about 166 for Palestine 2 (israel, and the US) for israel.
freakin read about it. (in non-us paper) it's everywhere.
At the risk of getting this thread back on topic -- how does Romney expect that a military blockade or a "bombardment of some kind" will keep Iran from building a bomb, if that's their objective?
Methinks this is like the trash talking that wrestlers do for show before a match. Only Romney is doing it to gain support among the hawks.
[...] how does Romney expect that a military blockade or a “bombardment of some kind†will keep Iran from building a bomb, if that’s their objective? [...]
Comment by missmolly — October 25, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
It won't. It will only fuel more hatred toward the United States. You can't fight fire with fire.
Good point missmolly, I doubt such a detailed question asking for substance will ever surface at a Romney event. I'd like to know what Romney's next action will be when the Iranian army swarms into Iraq.
It will be Irans fault if the US has to bomb them. They know the rules. The Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty said…..NO NUKES FOR YOU! If Iran violates the treaty they signed and the US has to blow their nuke crap up they will be forced to pay for us cleaning up their mess.
Comment by Billy Hill — October 25, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
OK, if these are the rules, we need to bomb North Korea first. They signed the treaty and then violated it. So why are we giving them a free pass?
I suspect it's because there's no oil in that part of the world.
I know about the resolutions. They are non-binding? Correct? Either way, the UN does not act on them so what good are they?
It's shallow, but Muslims are going to have to do more to be liked to be very frank.
I am so tired of weak, rich, cut and runners from war , balling up their fist acting though they're ready to fight, knowing good well that they will be sitting back with no interest of whose dying.
So I have a suggestion:
I will pull my retirement, go back to CIF, pick up my equipment, and request my old First Sergeant slot again only if I have ALL five of his sons in MY Company, two in First Platoon, one in second, one in third, and one in Headquarters section.
Be serious you stiff-haired coward.
RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Also, Iran and other countries in the mideast proposed making the whole region non-nuclear, but guess who was opposed. Two countries. Wait for it......Wait for it.... One starts with U......
the other one starts with I...... wait.....
Did everyone watch Frontline: Showdown with Iran? If shrub is serious about bombing Iran, we are truly screwed.
Iran's former Vice President had it right: These are two men that don't just see themselves as politicians doing political work. They see themselves doing the work of God and that is very dangerous for the entire world.
The republican sided posters here offer no foresight after bombing Iran. They have learned nothing of the mess in Iraq. They can have opinions but the rest of the world is going to look deeper than the visceral reactionaries we have here.
The republican sided posters here offer no foresight after bombing Iran. They have learned nothing of the mess in Iraq. They can have opinions but the rest of the world is going to look deeper than the visceral reactionaries we have here.
Comment by hellinabucket — October 25, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
If the GOP hacks could PLAN, they wouldn't have half the GDP growth on average of their DNC counterparts over the last century! The GOP fails at every endeavor, whether it be economic, social or military!
Things didn’t work out. Too bad. I survive. Hence I win.
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
Your miserable life isn't worth the sacrifice of 4000+ American soldiers and 30,000 wounded plus 100,000+ innocent Iraqis, you putrid piece of Republican scum!
#121 - "You (hits) are one demented POS." Comment by Wayne — October 25, 2007 @ 4:01 pm
I don't think he's demented, he just doesn't seem to care at all about anyone outside of the US.
Mothers that habe to explain to their child that daddy got shot in the back by Blackwater for running away from their wild shoot-fest? Nope, he doesn't seem to care at all.
Babies dying in US bombs? Nope, he doesn't seem to care at all.
North Korea having nukes that could hit the US, but Iraq having no WMD's at all? Nope, he doesn't seem to care at all.
It's simple: if you don't live in the US, "hits" seem to believe you have no worth at all and it doesn't seem to matter if you die because of the occupation or any other reason.
hits, your ignorant caveman mentality is repulsive. Look at where it has gotten us and the one million dead people of Iraq so far. We ain't got the $2 TRILLION the war we are in now is going to cost---and you can't wait to start another. Probably because you are angry about losing this one.
1. There “Dear Leader†has not threatened to wipe another country off the map. Comment by Billy Hill — October 25, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
Neither has Iran. Unless by OUR COUNTRY, you mean Israel?
2. There is nothing in their filty country worth the effort. Comment by Billy Hill — October 25, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
Ah, there be the rub! More about the OIL than the THREAT. Typical!
3. However…..if lil Kim Jung Ill trys to sell nukes or techno stuff Comment by Billy Hill — October 25, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
Already did. The Libyans admitted NK sold them the Nuke tech.
Pyoungyang will be nothing but a sheet of glass.
Comment by Billy Hill — October 25, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
Still waiting! and waiting!
Sorry, but I forgot! The GOP won't attack people that actually HAVE WMDs - and NK knows that! And pandering little pricks like you are just too stupid to know what your own party is filled with - CHICKENHAWK COWARDS - but NK knows, as does Iran!
If we had not overthrown their popular democratically-elected government and reinstalled the fascist Shah because we wanted their OIL in 1953, then we would have good relations with Iran today.
Whether or not it's the right thing to do in bombing Iran is irrelevant when your moron President can't handle an international crisis. No reasonably intelligent person could look at what Bush has done in Iraq and elsewhere and believe that he is prepared in any way for the day after he attacks Iran.
Thank you. I think that’s a fair exposition of my position.
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
Have you ever thought about what drives your war-mongering chickenhawk behavior? A lot of research has been done on this and you might consider getting some help.
My guess is the biggest issue you have is FEAR and UNCERTAINTY and DOUBT, mixed with paranoia.
If I know everything there is to know, I wouldn’t have acted on Iraq. But I didn’t. I suspected something was wrong. The risk of inaction was greater than the cost of action. I acted. Things didn’t work out. Too bad. I survive. Hence I win.
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
Notice all the "I's" in here? This wack job thinks he/she is f'ing Darth Cheney! and god knows, one of Darth is one too many!
This truly shows the delusional aspects of hit's paranoia.
1. There “Dear Leader†has not threatened to wipe another country off the map.
Comment by Billy Hill — October 25, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
It has been explained, again and again, that Iran didn't threaten to wipe Israel off the map. If you refuse to accept that, then you're either consciously trolling or just an idiot. Since I wouldn't presume to label you an evil troll without any proof, I'll be nice and label you an idiot instead.
Billy Hill thinks the entire continent of Africa is comprised of dark skinned folks in loincloths in huts as well but can you blame em? When you've never had the chance to cross over the Spittle County line, it is hard to imagine the world.
It’s shallow, but Muslims are going to have to do more to be liked to be very frank.
Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover
Like dying without making so much noise, right?
Yeah, watching your family driven away from your home, or your mother raped or your father tortured...and yet to try to fight back!!! mmm...it's really unpleasant to see all those people protesting violently.
Furthermore, what about the Palestinian that are NOT Muslims? You know the Jews and Christians and Buddhists in Palestine.
Romney wants to resort to "bombardment of some kind".
America didn't like it , when the Pentagon, or the Oklahoma city Federal Bldg. experienced "some kind of bombardment." In fact it made us very Angry. Why does Romney think Iranians are any different??
Please stop being filled with hate. I’ll pray for you.
Comment by Liberals Are Filled With Hate — October 25, 2007 @ 5:00 pm
Tell you what, you stop being a BushCo butt-licker and we will pray for ourselves. Your type of religion isn't working too well, as seen by you and your cabal's actions over the past 6 1/2 years..
Please stop being filled with hate. I’ll pray for you.
Comment by Liberals Are Filled With Hate — October 25, 2007 @ 5:00 pm
May I suggest you look to Matthew 7:3-5 for inspiration:
"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, `Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. "
I wish you would clean up your own house (the 11% Democrat Congress) before attacking the GOP. It’s disgusting and partisan. Please stop being filled with hate. I’ll pray for you.
You know, dipshit, the reason that the Congress polls so low is because WE can't stand them because they won't represent our interests in standing up to your fascist Leader. Insulting the Democratic Congress really doesn't hurt us very much. Pray for yourself. You need it more than we do.
When you’ve never had the chance to cross over the Spittle County line, it is hard to imagine the world.
Comment by dbadass — October 25, 2007 @ 4:52 pm
You're basically right but, some of these trolls are on a mission. They're charged with the task of DEHUMANIZING the intended target. It makes it easier to accept the killing and the bombing when you think the enemy is less than human. Unfortunately, a majority of Americans are not very well informed about other countries (less than 15% own a passport) so it is somewhat easy to convince a lot of people that the government is just bombing a "filthy" country that intended to do us harm. That's one of the failures of the American School System, if you ask me.
In fact it made us very Angry. Why does Romney think Iranians are any different??
Comment by Badger — October 25, 2007 @ 5:03 pm
Ah, that's the key. You think of the Iranian people as not being different from us. What a dangerous thought! The next step is to think that if they get a hold of a nuclear weapon they, being rational people like us, wouldn't even think of using it because of the consequences. But then, they are "not like us" so therefore we must bomb them before the get an unexistent WMD. Get it?
Methinks the idiot Romney should lead the first charge, first strike, along with his five sons. Show us what you’re made of, or does he have the guts?
Comment by celtic cynic — October 25, 2007 @ 6:07 pm
No answer, I just thought it was worthwhile to reproduce a comment I totally agree with.
Romney says a smart thing. Bombing Iran - strategically - will alleviate a lot of concerns
October 25th, 2007 at 2:29 pmHell !
Any kind of "bombardment" will do !
This is America afterall, and we love to drop bombs. We'lll think of the reason later, and if you don't like that reason, we'll think of some more.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:29 pmhimself? with hairspray?
October 25th, 2007 at 2:31 pmRomney says a smart thing. Bombing Iran - strategically - will alleviate a lot of concerns
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
Please explain how bombing Iran will strategically alleviate a lot of concerns.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:31 pmYeah, that's where Obama bin Sama Barack Laden is hiding.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:33 pm"I got God on my side
And I'm just trying to survive
What if what you do to survive
Kills the things you love
Fear's a powerful thing, baby
It can turn your heart black you can trust
It'll take your God filled soul
And fill it with devils and dust"
the Boss.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:34 pmJesus. Romney and his crazy "diplomacy", Rudy and his ugly "questioning" of suspects.
I guess we are one of the 10 most dangerous places in American thought.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:34 pmNature Rules,
National security considerations extend beyond the need for hard proof. Sometimes you just gotta act. By the way, I said bomb Iran strategically, not "bomb Iran to strategically alleviate concerns"
Hits
October 25th, 2007 at 2:34 pmIn light of Romney acting like Obama / Osama was an innocent mistake to be laughed off, and of Rommel seeming to be pumping the war machine, may I suggest that Mitt Romney would really appreciate the joke of noting the similarity of Romney to Erwin Rommel ?
October 25th, 2007 at 2:35 pmMutt Rommel is a fool. Everything he does is just a lousy attempt to get a vote. Ruddy 9/11 polls better than Rommel because the reichwing nutjobs think that 9/11 will start WWIII faster. Rommel's just trying to get some points away from 9/11.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:37 pm"A bombardment... ... ... of some sort?"
How many different kinds of "bombardments" are there to consider, Mitt? And will your sons be involved?
And this moron is running for President? Of what?
The Hair Club For Men?
October 25th, 2007 at 2:38 pmGuess he spoke with his lawyers and they said it was o.k. ...
October 25th, 2007 at 2:38 pmI'm Tired. Worn out. They've beat me.
It's what they've wanted.
I called senators this morning to say it's unconscionable to give 196 BILL for an EMERGENCY request for war when tucked inside ofit is 88Mill to equip a Stealth bimber with a MOP. Where would we need stealth bomber equipped with a nuclear bunker buster other than Iran? Where?
I cried and went to work.
Bombing Iran is the beginning of the end. 1.2 Billion Muslims will not stand for it. WWIII will commence at that point.
Everyone better start figuring out what they are going to do when all hell breaks loose.
If King George and Darth are allowed to do what they intend your life as you know it will cease to exist.
What will you do NOW?
October 25th, 2007 at 2:39 pmHe would be willing....
It's gonna happen way before you get that chance, Mitsy. You'll have to invent your own enemies.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:39 pmNational security considerations extend beyond the need for hard proof. Sometimes you just gotta act. By the way, I said bomb Iran strategically, not “bomb Iran to strategically alleviate concernsâ€
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
Ah NO. If national security considerations did not need hard proof then the nation can do anything to any country - oh wait - they have!
And NO you said "Bombing Iran - strategically - will alleviate a lot of concerns".
Let me rephrase my question. How will bombing Iran - strategically - alleviate a lot of concerns?
October 25th, 2007 at 2:40 pmI see Hits is still on his/her "Bomb any country that may have WMD", just like the Iraq Clusterf#ck.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:40 pmWhat will Iran do after we bomb them? Decide they don't need WMD? Decide they love Israel? Or do you think they might react rather violently? All out warfare spilling throughout the Middle East? Bring the war to our soil? I think these are the most likely scenarios.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:40 pmI think he misspoke...
he meant to say 'rapproachment', not 'bombardment'. You know how he is with things like that....
October 25th, 2007 at 2:41 pmKilling to 'alleviate concerns' is obscene and deeply sociopathic.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:42 pmKill em all and let God sort em out eh Mitt?
October 25th, 2007 at 2:42 pmCall a senator.
Not that it will do much good but at least you can say you fought this madness to the end.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:43 pm"Sometimes you just gotta act" is not a foreign policy. and you gotta realize the problems presented by saudi arabia and pakistan are much more pressing. and you gotta realize the difference between sunni and shiite, so you can explain to people why you're ignoring al qaeda again.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:43 pmThe major flaw in Romney's statement is that Iran has never stated that it intends to build a nuclear bomb. Rather, they have always maintained that they wish to build a nuclear facility in order to facilitate energy production for their country. This is why this country is in a constant state of paranoia because of reckless statements by superpatriots like Romney. The irony is that chickenhawks like Romney are so quick to subscribe going to war while they themselves have never set foot in a combat zone while wearing a military uniform. Their motto seems to be more war as long as they or their children are not forced to fight in the wars which they are so fervently advocate.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:43 pmWell it's just so EASY to bomb Iran!
October 25th, 2007 at 2:44 pmAll you have to do is push the big red button buried your disgusting Pomade hair!
Yeah but Iran said it wants to destroy Israel. You just can't talk like that.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:45 pmAny kind? Two or three of his kids, maybe?
You know they dont have gays in Iran after all.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:46 pmNature Rules,
Exactly. If we suspect Iran of harboring a nuclear weapon, or of developing that capability, we should stop them. Period. In my opinion, we shouldn't be looking for the asymptotic final proof - you'll never get it.
The concerns it will alleviate are related to our existence, under the "If my existence in threatened, I will strike" philosophy
Hits
October 25th, 2007 at 2:47 pmUpside99,
Thank you. I think that's a fair exposition of my position.
Hits
October 25th, 2007 at 2:47 pm"National security considerations extend beyond the need for hard proof. Sometimes you just gotta act."
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
And we have seen the results of what can happen when leaders who "just gotta act" bomb other countries with not only a lack of hard proof of anything, but even a lack of compelling evidence.
Look how much our national security has improved as a result of our bombing and invading Iraq. Let's see -- everywhere I travel in this country, I'm informed that the terror threat is "orange", Al Qaeda has ramped back up to pre-9/11 levels because our actions are the best recruiting tool they have, and so much more of the world hates us.
Hmmm...I don't really feel any more secure.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:48 pmPeter C,
Killing to 'alleviate concerns' is survivalistic, not sociopathic
Hits
October 25th, 2007 at 2:48 pmHits is here.
Liberals Hate Facts will get the next thread.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:49 pmcha cha cha,
Yes it is, if your existence can be called into question
Hits
October 25th, 2007 at 2:49 pm“National security considerations extend beyond the need for hard proof. Sometimes you just gotta act.â€
Comment by hits
Sounds like the motive of a bunch of arabs crashing planes in NY some years ago.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:50 pmFor God's sake, just stop feeding the troll. He's just puking on the keyboard in hopes of getting a reaction out of you guys. That's how he gets his entertainment.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:50 pmGreat, Mitt, you support bombardment. Now let's see you put your money and family where your mouth is. Demand that your spoiled brats you call "children" do their duty and fight for your values in the middle East, you hypocrite.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:51 pmBombing Iran will put over 200,000 Iranian troops into Iraq. The Shiites will split from the fragile govt. with many joining the ranks of the Iranians to oust the "occupiers". Turkey will bomb northern Iraq to put an end to the PKK and any supporters. Turkey will also invade northern Iraq to increase a bufferzone between Iran and themselves. Russia will supply Iran with arms further increasing the tension between us and Russia. Our military will cry out for a draft and an increase in the military budget tenfold. The tax cuts will be repealed, or Bush will attempt to continue and push a supplemental spending bill. Something that congress will not allow.
All of this and more will happen. So Hits, why do you think bombing Iran is a good thing?
October 25th, 2007 at 2:52 pmThe concerns it will alleviate are related to our existence, under the “If my existence in threatened, I will strike†philosophy
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
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So you believe that if we bomb Iran, they will decide they don't want nuclear weapons? We already made ourselves look like fools to the international community by invading Iraq due to WMD, then finding none. Are you ready to do it all again, just to find nothing? Realize, even if they are not working towards a nuclear weapon now, after we bomb them, that will convince them that they REALLY need nukes. Now more than ever. They are NOT going to just sit there peacefully after we bomb them. Right now they are not a threat. At all. After we bomb them, they will become a GIANT threat.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:52 pmmissmolly,
Sometimes, one's actions don't seem necessary. But that's Monday morning quarterbacking. If I know everything there is to know, I wouldn't have acted on Iraq. But I didn't. I suspected something was wrong. The risk of inaction was greater than the cost of action. I acted. Things didn't work out. Too bad. I survive. Hence I win.
Hits
October 25th, 2007 at 2:52 pmExactly. If we suspect Iran of harboring a nuclear weapon, or of developing that capability, we should stop them. Period. In my opinion, we shouldn’t be looking for the asymptotic final proof - you’ll never get it.
The concerns it will alleviate are related to our existence, under the “If my existence in threatened, I will strike†philosophy
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
I suspect that you are trying to kill me. I have no evidence to support this idea, but I suspect it very strongly, and I don't have time to look for any conclusive proof of this.
Therefore, I kindly request that you give me your home address, so that I can break into your residence and stab you in the throat while you sleep. My security depends on it.
I'm sure you'll understand this tactical decision.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:52 pmBomb them Iranians with tons of that secret Mormon underwear, Mitt. Maybe they'll drown in hypocrisy.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:53 pmPeter C,
Killing to ‘alleviate concerns’ is survivalistic, not sociopathic
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
I'm concerned that the guy next door has weird hair. In order to alleviate my concern, I'm going over there and shooting him dead. It's a matter of survival, after all.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:53 pmSo using this "hits" creep's logic, Iran has just cause to bomb us too.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:53 pmJuan C.,
Actually, you are correct. The motives are not too different. The results, however, are.
Hits
October 25th, 2007 at 2:53 pmMaybe Mitt thinks bombardment involves red rubber balls and boys in gym shorts.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:54 pmThings didn’t work out. Too bad. I survive. Hence I win.
Comment by hits
Seriously, how can anyone address this moron after this?
October 25th, 2007 at 2:54 pmNature Rules,
Exactly. If we suspect Iran of harboring a nuclear weapon, or of developing that capability, we should stop them. Period. In my opinion, we shouldn’t be looking for the asymptotic final proof - you’ll never get it.
The concerns it will alleviate are related to our existence, under the “If my existence in threatened, I will strike†philosophy
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
Exactly!!?!!! WTF? There has been NO evidence that Iraq was threatening anyone other than themselves - and that hasn't been a criteria for invasion in the past or present - although there are countries where the world should step in and prevent countries from killing their own.
There are a few countries that do have nuclear weapons including Pakistan and North Korea. No bombing of them to alleviate concerns.
Your a moron if you believe that your existence (or America's) is threatened by Iran. That is so laughable. Your superstitions have blocked your ability to think.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:55 pmhellinabucket,
By being very strategic about what you hit, what you destroy and what you replace it with, all of the factors you point out can be turned around for our benefits.
Hits
October 25th, 2007 at 2:55 pmActually, you are correct. The motives are not too different. The results, however, are.
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:53 pm
No, the results are pretty much the same, too - the deaths of thousands of innocent people.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:56 pmhits--your comment to missmolly is DISGUSTING. Have you read a paper or looked at the news lately? What have you WON? Thousands and thousand and thousand of people are dead. That's not winning.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:56 pm"Yes it is, if your existence can be called into question"
no, it's not. well maybe if you watch "24" a lot.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:57 pmChris L,
On the contrary, it will set them back many years. I do not assume they will sit back and be happy. They were not sitting back and being happy under Reagan or Clinton either. It doesn't matter. You gotta strike first before you are hit - now or 30 years from now. Why is now better? Because you have the ability to do so now. You may not 30 years from now.
Hits
October 25th, 2007 at 2:57 pmToasterhead,
Your actions under this hypothetical situation are justifiable, although indefensible in a court of law
Hits
October 25th, 2007 at 2:58 pmPeter C,
Killing to ‘alleviate concerns’ is survivalistic, not sociopathic
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
Actually, no, it is sociopathic - as are you! You NEED TO BE IN A PADDED ROOM - JAKEO the LUNATICO!
October 25th, 2007 at 2:58 pm"Yeah but Iran said it wants to destroy Israel. You just can’t talk like that."
Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover — October 25, 2007 @ 2:45 pm
And Bush's playful allusions to WW III are what, cute?
October 25th, 2007 at 2:59 pmgummitch,
Taking comments out of context is usually not a smart thing to do
Hits
October 25th, 2007 at 2:59 pmThe risk of inaction was greater than the cost of action. I acted. Things didn’t work out. Too bad. I survive. Hence I win.
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
The cost of not invading Iraq was going to be more than $2.4 trillion dollars and 4,000 dead Americans and 1,000,000 dead Iraqis?
October 25th, 2007 at 2:59 pmmore importantly, if that's your 8th-grade idea of foreign policy, then china and russia are bigger threats, now and in the future, than iran will ever be. so your priorities are ridiculous by anyone's logic.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:59 pmToasterhead,
Your actions under this hypothetical situation are justifiable, although indefensible in a court of law
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:58 pm
Whereas your mental state is neither - SOCIOPATH!
October 25th, 2007 at 2:59 pmYour actions under this hypothetical situation are justifiable, although indefensible in a court of law
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:58 pm
Coolio. Address please.
October 25th, 2007 at 2:59 pmso does this mean his son or himself are going to enlist?
October 25th, 2007 at 3:00 pmThings didn’t work out. Too bad. I survive. Hence I win.
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
Just as we've always said. 3900 dead and 30,000 wounded Americans for your gamble. Which is ok as long as you didn't have to participate in the risk. Your definition of winning is just pathetic.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:00 pmThe risk of inaction was greater than the cost of action. I acted. Things didn’t work out. Too bad. I survive. Hence I win.
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
Funny, that was the defense the Nazis used at Nuremberg, speaking of sociopaths! You're in GOOD COMPANY JAKE!
October 25th, 2007 at 3:00 pmI'm done with idiotic hits. If you have no consideration for the consequences of your actions then you might as well call yourself a suicide bomber.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:01 pmExactly. If we suspect Iran of harboring a nuclear weapon, or of developing that capability, we should stop them. Period. In my opinion, we shouldn’t be looking for the asymptotic final proof - you’ll never get it.
The concerns it will alleviate are related to our existence, under the “If my existence in threatened, I will strike†philosophy
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
If our existence was truly threatened, I'd be all for removing that threat. I just don't believe that Iran getting a nuclear bomb would be a threat to us. They wouldn't be able to use it without their entire country being obliterated, and they know it.
You also suggest that we should "stop them" from harboring a nuclear weapon. Does this "stop them" recommendation extend to other countries with nukes? Do you advocate invasions of the United Kingdom, France, Russia, China, Israel, India, Pakistan, North Korea, etc.?
October 25th, 2007 at 3:01 pmHey now. I may hate Bush but I'm no Muslim lover, either.
I have an extremely low opinion of Muslim terrorists. It was stupid to threaten Israel.
I personally believe Palestinians could have won their lands back if they had protested peacefully and appealed to world opinion.
Noone can side with these barefoot rpg-toting zealots.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:03 pmgummitch,
Taking comments out of context is usually not a smart thing to do
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
Thanks for the advice, Mr Pee. Have fun wasting everyone's time.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:03 pmSometimes, one’s actions don’t seem necessary. But that’s Monday morning quarterbacking. If I know everything there is to know, I wouldn’t have acted on Iraq. But I didn’t. I suspected something was wrong. The risk of inaction was greater than the cost of action. I acted. Things didn’t work out. Too bad. I survive. Hence I win.
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
Ha ha ha. Listen to the little boy sitting at home on his mommy's computer pretending that "he" acted. You didn't act. If "you" had acted you would have joined the fighting. What you are doing is sitting at home acting like you have the courage of your convictions. You don't You're all talk, that's all you have. You survive because others die. But not because or your actions. Like Ghouliani you don't have the courage to put your life at risk. Pussy!
October 25th, 2007 at 3:07 pmDo you advocate invasions of the United Kingdom, France, Russia, China, Israel, India, Pakistan, North Korea, etc.?
Comment by missmolly — October 25, 2007 @ 3:01 pm
I think we should consider invading ourselves to prevent us from dropping a nuclear bomb on ourselves. Considering we dropped a nuclear bomb on one of our closest allies, Japan, I don't think we can be trusted.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:07 pmI personally believe Palestinians could have won their lands back if they had protested peacefully and appealed to world opinion.
Noone can side with these barefoot rpg-toting zealots.
Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover — October 25, 2007 @ 3:03 pm
Actually, most of the world has sided with the Palestinians and is against Israeli apartheid. It's only the U.S. and maybe Micronesia who's on the other side.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:08 pmHit's, how does 200,000 Iranian troops swarming into Iran turn into a benifit for us? Would you support a draft? How about a plan to pay for this escalation? How would a closer relationship of Iran and Russia help us?
Are you advocating using nuclear weapons as a preemptive strike? If so, then what rationale do you hang your hat on that the rest of the world will sit back?
October 25th, 2007 at 3:08 pmLike Ghouliani you don’t have the courage to put your life at risk. Pussy!
Comment by Dave C — October 25, 2007 @ 3:07 pm
Or more importantly, Bush and Cheney. They don't even have the courage to stand up and be accountable let along go to war.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:09 pmCaught that as well Dave C. What action did Hits really take?
October 25th, 2007 at 3:09 pmI don't know about anyone else, but I'm pretty friggin' tired of my money being used to cater to the whims of a spoiled brat.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:10 pmCaught that as well Dave C. What action did Hits really take?
Comment by hellinabucket — October 25, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
Like Romney, hits serves his country in a way other then fighting. He sits at home in his $hitstained undies writing on boards like this.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:11 pmCaught that as well Dave C. What action did Hits really take?
Comment by hellinabucket — October 25, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
October 25th, 2007 at 3:12 pm-----------------------------------------
No SH!T!!! That's just what I thought. The little dude is out of his f'ing mind!
70 Million Iranians + porous border with Iraq + Iraqi Shiites allied with Iran + US bombing of Iran = thousands more dead American troops in Iraq.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:13 pmVladimir Putin describes George W. Bush's foreign policy towards Iran.
"Running around like a madman with a razor blade, waving it around, is not the best way to resolve the situation,"
Pootie to Chimpy: Lighten up.
-GSD
October 25th, 2007 at 3:15 pmWow. In Repukian World, you get to kill anybody who thinks about you funny.
Survival of the craziest, baby!!
October 25th, 2007 at 3:15 pmRight.. Palestinians should have protested peacefully.... Umm.. they did.. and they went to the UN who passed several resoultions saying their land and homes should be given back or they should be compensated... and those resolutions were and continue to be ignored... The media paints Israel, the peeps who forcibly pushed them out from their homes and land, as the victims..
October 25th, 2007 at 3:15 pmWhat then? Keep protesting peacefully??
Even peaceful protesters--those who organize strikes against participating in Israeli courts, are thrown in jail. What then? When you are jailed for non-violent protest? Just sit back and watch as another family lives in the house that your own parents or grandparents built with their own two hands?? Is that what you would do? Tens of thousands of requests for compensation for homes taken were submitted through legal channels.. and what have the Palestinians to show for it?? What must happen for the world to see the injustice that has been wrought upon them? They continue to die in far greater numbers than Israelis, and be jailed and tortured, and yet the Israelis are still the "victims". What now?
--I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m pretty friggin’ tired of my money being used to cater to the whims of a spoiled brat.
Comment by IgnoranceIsNotBliss--
What's sad is that chimpy's act of aggression was all about money--money that he could steal from the US treasury to keep for himself and all of chimpco. They had it planned long before 9/11. What a thrill they got after 9/11 when they realized that they could use 9/11 as a selling point for their attack on Iraq.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:16 pmIsrael is supported by the world, toast. Where you getting your info there bud? The depths of your imagination?
October 25th, 2007 at 3:16 pm"It will be Irans fault if the US has to bomb them. They know the rules."
are you in the same grade as lil' hits?
October 25th, 2007 at 3:17 pmThings didn’t work out. Too bad. I survive. Hence I win.
Comment by hits
Seriously, how can anyone address this moron after this?
Comment by Juan C. — October 25, 2007 @ 2:54 pm
You're right -- with this post, "hits" has confirmed his philosophy that this is all a game, and all that matters is to be the last man standing. Killing thousands of other human beings unnecessarily means nothing to him. Instigating wars because something MIGHT be amiss is perfectly OK with him (which means that he's OK with the 9/11 terrorists who attacked the United States because we were a threat to their agenda, because after all, to them, the cost of their inaction was greater than the cost of their action, right?).
This line of thinking is way too seriously twisted to be worthy of intellectual debate.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:18 pm"You’re right — with this post, “hits†has confirmed his philosophy that this is all a game"
to paraphrase rick james, "D&D is a hell of a drug."
October 25th, 2007 at 3:20 pmIt's the video game generation hitting the internet. No consequences, deaths are real, no personal sacrifice. hits is 14 years old. It's nap time now.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:21 pmIt's never too late to stop attacking Israel.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:21 pmAll it does is make it impossible for people to support you.
Gotta play the game.
We should assassinate Ahmadinejad just like we should assassinate Al gore.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:22 pmGuido? you clearly haven't watched or read newspapers in the rest of the world much.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:23 pmalso. most UN Resolutions on the Palestinian/Israeli conflict go about 166 for Palestine 2 (israel, and the US) for israel.
freakin read about it. (in non-us paper) it's everywhere.
Here you go Guido try this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_UN_resolutions_concerning_Israel_and_Palestine
October 25th, 2007 at 3:24 pm"Romney open to Iran ‘bombardment.’"
Let's hope he plunks himself down in an unpopulated area.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:25 pm*SIGH* If only World War Two hadn't occurred.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:25 pmAt the risk of getting this thread back on topic -- how does Romney expect that a military blockade or a "bombardment of some kind" will keep Iran from building a bomb, if that's their objective?
Methinks this is like the trash talking that wrestlers do for show before a match. Only Romney is doing it to gain support among the hawks.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:26 pmPicklee, I have requested that your personal information be handed over to the authorities for your treasonous desires.
May god have mercy on your soul.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:27 pm[...] how does Romney expect that a military blockade or a “bombardment of some kind†will keep Iran from building a bomb, if that’s their objective? [...]
Comment by missmolly — October 25, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
It won't. It will only fuel more hatred toward the United States. You can't fight fire with fire.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:27 pmGood point missmolly, I doubt such a detailed question asking for substance will ever surface at a Romney event. I'd like to know what Romney's next action will be when the Iranian army swarms into Iraq.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:29 pmWe should really take a break with all this killing, honestly.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:29 pmMaybe we should try diplomacy?
Or asking Congress?
I’d like to know what Romney’s next action will be when the Iranian army swarms into Iraq.
Comment by hellinabucket — October 25, 2007 @ 3:29 pm
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I'd like to know what the next action is after they bring the war to our soil.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:30 pmI’d like to know what Romney’s next action will be when the Iranian army swarms into Iraq.
Comment by hellinabucket — October 25, 2007 @ 3:29 pm
A troop surge.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:30 pmIt will be Irans fault if the US has to bomb them. They know the rules. The Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty said…..NO NUKES FOR YOU! If Iran violates the treaty they signed and the US has to blow their nuke crap up they will be forced to pay for us cleaning up their mess.
Comment by Billy Hill — October 25, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
OK, if these are the rules, we need to bomb North Korea first. They signed the treaty and then violated it. So why are we giving them a free pass?
I suspect it's because there's no oil in that part of the world.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:31 pmI suspect it’s because there’s no oil in that part of the world.
Comment by missmolly — October 25, 2007 @ 3:31 pm
Nah, they just have a larger army than us.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:32 pmOK, if these are the rules, we need to bomb North Korea first. They signed the treaty and then violated it. So why are we giving them a free pass?
I suspect it’s because there’s no oil in that part of the world.
Comment by missmolly — October 25, 2007 @ 3:31 pm
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And then there is Israel and Pakistan which refused to sign the NNPT.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:36 pmI know about the resolutions. They are non-binding? Correct? Either way, the UN does not act on them so what good are they?
October 25th, 2007 at 3:38 pmIt's shallow, but Muslims are going to have to do more to be liked to be very frank.
Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover — October 25, 2007 @ 3:38 pm
like stop trying to defend their own countries?
October 25th, 2007 at 3:39 pmI am so tired of weak, rich, cut and runners from war , balling up their fist acting though they're ready to fight, knowing good well that they will be sitting back with no interest of whose dying.
So I have a suggestion:
I will pull my retirement, go back to CIF, pick up my equipment, and request my old First Sergeant slot again only if I have ALL five of his sons in MY Company, two in First Platoon, one in second, one in third, and one in Headquarters section.
Be serious you stiff-haired coward.
RIP
October 25th, 2007 at 3:40 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Also, Iran and other countries in the mideast proposed making the whole region non-nuclear, but guess who was opposed. Two countries. Wait for it......Wait for it.... One starts with U......
the other one starts with I...... wait.....
ahh screw it. why even bother.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:40 pmYeah, lets drive the price of Oil of further for the Exxon lobby!!!!
October 25th, 2007 at 3:42 pmBombing Iran - strategically - will alleviate a lot of concerns
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
"Strategically". Are you sure you didn't mean stratigerically?
October 25th, 2007 at 3:43 pmIt’s shallow, but Muslims are going to have to do more to be liked to be very frank.
Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover — October 25, 2007 @ 3:38 pm
Damn right it's shallow. Let me turn it around for you. The Christians are going to have to do more to be liked to be very frank.
Actually, it should be: All religions are going to have to do more to be liked. Bloody religions are the bane of humans.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:45 pmyou had me at "Bomd Iran"
October 25th, 2007 at 3:46 pmDid everyone watch Frontline: Showdown with Iran? If shrub is serious about bombing Iran, we are truly screwed.
Iran's former Vice President had it right: These are two men that don't just see themselves as politicians doing political work. They see themselves doing the work of God and that is very dangerous for the entire world.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:48 pmJust listen to the Beach Boys.
Bomb, Bomb, Bomb,
Bomb, Bomd Iran
Comment by TCDon — October 25, 2007 @ 3:39 pm
You must think you're so clever. Ha!
October 25th, 2007 at 3:49 pmThe concerns it will alleviate are related to our existence, under the “If my existence in threatened, I will strike†philosophy
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
Also known as the Keyboard Chickenhawk-Warrior's Philosophy.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:52 pmThe republican sided posters here offer no foresight after bombing Iran. They have learned nothing of the mess in Iraq. They can have opinions but the rest of the world is going to look deeper than the visceral reactionaries we have here.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:54 pmJust listen to the Beach Boys.
Bomb, Bomb, Bomb,
Bomb, Bomd Iran
Comment by TCDon — October 25, 2007 @ 3:39 pm
That's EXXON and AIPAC, not the Beach Boys. We like to refer to them (and you) as the B!TCH BOYS - more appropriate description!
October 25th, 2007 at 3:54 pmThe republican sided posters here offer no foresight after bombing Iran. They have learned nothing of the mess in Iraq. They can have opinions but the rest of the world is going to look deeper than the visceral reactionaries we have here.
Comment by hellinabucket — October 25, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
If the GOP hacks could PLAN, they wouldn't have half the GDP growth on average of their DNC counterparts over the last century! The GOP fails at every endeavor, whether it be economic, social or military!
October 25th, 2007 at 3:55 pmRomney: "bombardment, bombardment"
http://www.veoh.com/static/flash/players/videodetails.swf?player=videodetails&type=v&permalinkId=v1288218kQJFzmNJ&version=4
October 25th, 2007 at 3:55 pmThings didn’t work out. Too bad. I survive. Hence I win.
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
Your miserable life isn't worth the sacrifice of 4000+ American soldiers and 30,000 wounded plus 100,000+ innocent Iraqis, you putrid piece of Republican scum!
October 25th, 2007 at 3:58 pmThey have learned nothing of the mess in Iraq.
If we bomb Iran, we are going to have an even bigger mess in Iraq. That's what they don't understand.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:58 pmThings didn’t work out. Too bad. I survive. Hence I win.
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
You are one demented POS.
October 25th, 2007 at 4:01 pmYou must think you’re so clever. Ha!
Comment by Picklee — October 25, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
Nothing clever about copying something McCain said months ago. Never a new idea from these freaks.
October 25th, 2007 at 4:06 pmIt’s never too late to stop attacking Israel.
All it does is make it impossible for people to support you.
Gotta play the game.
Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover — October 25, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
Another Zionazi crybaby!
October 25th, 2007 at 4:08 pm#121 - "You (hits) are one demented POS." Comment by Wayne — October 25, 2007 @ 4:01 pm
I don't think he's demented, he just doesn't seem to care at all about anyone outside of the US.
Mothers that habe to explain to their child that daddy got shot in the back by Blackwater for running away from their wild shoot-fest? Nope, he doesn't seem to care at all.
Babies dying in US bombs? Nope, he doesn't seem to care at all.
North Korea having nukes that could hit the US, but Iraq having no WMD's at all? Nope, he doesn't seem to care at all.
It's simple: if you don't live in the US, "hits" seem to believe you have no worth at all and it doesn't seem to matter if you die because of the occupation or any other reason.
October 25th, 2007 at 4:08 pmNorth Korea regularly threatens South Korea.
October 25th, 2007 at 4:18 pmhits, your ignorant caveman mentality is repulsive. Look at where it has gotten us and the one million dead people of Iraq so far. We ain't got the $2 TRILLION the war we are in now is going to cost---and you can't wait to start another. Probably because you are angry about losing this one.
October 25th, 2007 at 4:23 pmJust listen to the Beach Boys.
Bomb, Bomb, Bomb,
Bomb, Bomd Iran
Comment by TCDon — October 25, 2007 @ 3:39 pm
That’s EXXON and AIPAC, not the Beach Boys.
Comment by republicans hate facts — October 25, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
Don't forget John McCain -- he tried that line, too.
October 25th, 2007 at 4:27 pmComment by Billy Hill — October 25, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
India developed their bomb outside the NNPT right. They new the rules. Shouldn't we be bombing them rather than hoping to assist their program?
October 25th, 2007 at 4:28 pm2. There is nothing in their filty country worth the effort.
Comment by Billy Hill — October 25, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
Ah -- you admit this is more about what we can loot and pillage than it is about whether or not a country is "following the rules."
Thought so.
October 25th, 2007 at 4:29 pmIndia developed their bomb outside the NNPT right. They new the rules. Shouldn’t we be bombing them rather than hoping to assist their program?
Comment by dbadass — October 25, 2007 @ 4:28 pm
To be perfectly fair, India never signed the NNPT. Neither did Pakistan or Israel.
However, North Korea did, and they built nukes anyway (they have since withdrawn from the pact).
But your point is well taken. We shouldn't be helping one country with their nuke program while condemning another for theirs -- treaty or no treaty.
Especially since Billy Hill doesn't really list the NNPT as the most important consideration (see post #125).
October 25th, 2007 at 4:33 pm1. There “Dear Leader†has not threatened to wipe another country off the map. Comment by Billy Hill — October 25, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
Neither has Iran. Unless by OUR COUNTRY, you mean Israel?
2. There is nothing in their filty country worth the effort. Comment by Billy Hill — October 25, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
Ah, there be the rub! More about the OIL than the THREAT. Typical!
3. However…..if lil Kim Jung Ill trys to sell nukes or techno stuff Comment by Billy Hill — October 25, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
Already did. The Libyans admitted NK sold them the Nuke tech.
Pyoungyang will be nothing but a sheet of glass.
Comment by Billy Hill — October 25, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
Still waiting! and waiting!
Sorry, but I forgot! The GOP won't attack people that actually HAVE WMDs - and NK knows that! And pandering little pricks like you are just too stupid to know what your own party is filled with - CHICKENHAWK COWARDS - but NK knows, as does Iran!
October 25th, 2007 at 4:35 pmI suspect it’s because there’s no oil in that part of the world.
Comment by missmolly — October 25, 2007 @ 3:31 pm
Nah, they just have a larger army than us.
Comment by Picklee — October 25, 2007 @ 3:32 pm
At the rate we are going through our military, pretty soon ANDORRA will have a larger army than us.
October 25th, 2007 at 4:35 pmIf we had not overthrown their popular democratically-elected government and reinstalled the fascist Shah because we wanted their OIL in 1953, then we would have good relations with Iran today.
October 25th, 2007 at 4:36 pmWhether or not it's the right thing to do in bombing Iran is irrelevant when your moron President can't handle an international crisis. No reasonably intelligent person could look at what Bush has done in Iraq and elsewhere and believe that he is prepared in any way for the day after he attacks Iran.
October 25th, 2007 at 4:38 pmThank you. I think that’s a fair exposition of my position.
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
Have you ever thought about what drives your war-mongering chickenhawk behavior? A lot of research has been done on this and you might consider getting some help.
My guess is the biggest issue you have is FEAR and UNCERTAINTY and DOUBT, mixed with paranoia.
October 25th, 2007 at 4:39 pmThere is nothing in their filty country worth the effort.
Comment by Billy Hill — October 25, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
This is what the Neocon Zionazi trolls want to destroy. For all of you interested, these are pictures of Iran.
http://conflictiran.blogspot.com/2006/04/inside-iran-city-life.html
October 25th, 2007 at 4:39 pmComment by Tired Of Fighting — October 25, 2007 @ 3:40 pm
Haven't seen you for awhile. Good to have you back!
October 25th, 2007 at 4:40 pmIf I know everything there is to know, I wouldn’t have acted on Iraq. But I didn’t. I suspected something was wrong. The risk of inaction was greater than the cost of action. I acted. Things didn’t work out. Too bad. I survive. Hence I win.
Hits
Comment by hits — October 25, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
Notice all the "I's" in here? This wack job thinks he/she is f'ing Darth Cheney! and god knows, one of Darth is one too many!
This truly shows the delusional aspects of hit's paranoia.
October 25th, 2007 at 4:45 pm1. There “Dear Leader†has not threatened to wipe another country off the map.
Comment by Billy Hill — October 25, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
It has been explained, again and again, that Iran didn't threaten to wipe Israel off the map. If you refuse to accept that, then you're either consciously trolling or just an idiot. Since I wouldn't presume to label you an evil troll without any proof, I'll be nice and label you an idiot instead.
Have a nice day, idiot.
October 25th, 2007 at 4:50 pmhttp://conflictiran.blogspot.com/ 2006/ 04/ inside-iran-city-life.html
Comment by foreyes — October 25, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
Billy Hill thinks the entire continent of Africa is comprised of dark skinned folks in loincloths in huts as well but can you blame em? When you've never had the chance to cross over the Spittle County line, it is hard to imagine the world.
October 25th, 2007 at 4:52 pmIt’s shallow, but Muslims are going to have to do more to be liked to be very frank.
Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover
Like dying without making so much noise, right?
Yeah, watching your family driven away from your home, or your mother raped or your father tortured...and yet to try to fight back!!! mmm...it's really unpleasant to see all those people protesting violently.
Furthermore, what about the Palestinian that are NOT Muslims? You know the Jews and Christians and Buddhists in Palestine.
October 25th, 2007 at 4:58 pmRomney wants to resort to "bombardment of some kind".
America didn't like it , when the Pentagon, or the Oklahoma city Federal Bldg. experienced "some kind of bombardment." In fact it made us very Angry. Why does Romney think Iranians are any different??
October 25th, 2007 at 5:03 pmPlease stop being filled with hate. I’ll pray for you.
Comment by Liberals Are Filled With Hate — October 25, 2007 @ 5:00 pm
Tell you what, you stop being a BushCo butt-licker and we will pray for ourselves. Your type of religion isn't working too well, as seen by you and your cabal's actions over the past 6 1/2 years..
October 25th, 2007 at 5:03 pmPlease stop being filled with hate. I’ll pray for you.
Comment by Liberals Are Filled With Hate — October 25, 2007 @ 5:00 pm
May I suggest you look to Matthew 7:3-5 for inspiration:
October 25th, 2007 at 5:07 pm
I wish you would clean up your own house (the 11% Democrat Congress) before attacking the GOP. It’s disgusting and partisan. Please stop being filled with hate. I’ll pray for you.
You know, dipshit, the reason that the Congress polls so low is because WE can't stand them because they won't represent our interests in standing up to your fascist Leader. Insulting the Democratic Congress really doesn't hurt us very much. Pray for yourself. You need it more than we do.
October 25th, 2007 at 5:17 pmWhen you’ve never had the chance to cross over the Spittle County line, it is hard to imagine the world.
Comment by dbadass — October 25, 2007 @ 4:52 pm
You're basically right but, some of these trolls are on a mission. They're charged with the task of DEHUMANIZING the intended target. It makes it easier to accept the killing and the bombing when you think the enemy is less than human. Unfortunately, a majority of Americans are not very well informed about other countries (less than 15% own a passport) so it is somewhat easy to convince a lot of people that the government is just bombing a "filthy" country that intended to do us harm. That's one of the failures of the American School System, if you ask me.
October 25th, 2007 at 5:20 pmThat’s one of the failures of the American School System, if you ask me.
Comment by foreyes — October 25, 2007 @ 5:20 pm
Or a victory for those who stand to profit from an undereducated population. Depends how cynically you look at it.
October 25th, 2007 at 5:24 pmIn fact it made us very Angry. Why does Romney think Iranians are any different??
Comment by Badger — October 25, 2007 @ 5:03 pm
Ah, that's the key. You think of the Iranian people as not being different from us. What a dangerous thought! The next step is to think that if they get a hold of a nuclear weapon they, being rational people like us, wouldn't even think of using it because of the consequences. But then, they are "not like us" so therefore we must bomb them before the get an unexistent WMD. Get it?
October 25th, 2007 at 5:37 pmOr a victory for those who stand to profit from an undereducated population. Depends how cynically you look at it.
Comment by toasterhead — October 25, 2007 @ 5:24 pm
Your comment is one example why the rightwingers have declared TP Public Enemy #10. They can't stand the heat!
October 25th, 2007 at 5:49 pmMethinks the idiot Romney should lead the first charge, first strike, along with his five sons. Show us what you're made of, or does he have the guts?
October 25th, 2007 at 6:07 pmMethinks why lead a charge? just drop big bombs...lots of them.
October 25th, 2007 at 6:33 pmIt’s shallow, but Muslims are going to have to do more to be liked to be very frank.
Comment by Guido OBGYN Lover
Like dying without making so much noise, right?
Comment by Juan C. — October 25, 2007 @ 4:58 pm
Brilliant answer. I'm with you Juan. This Guido as*hole thinks that the only way to survive is to suck up to him, in order to "be liked".
October 25th, 2007 at 6:43 pmMethinks why lead a charge? just drop big bombs…lots of them.
Comment by ThinkProgressPromotesSocialism — October 25, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
That's because you're a coward. Have I made myself clear?
October 25th, 2007 at 6:47 pmMethinks the idiot Romney should lead the first charge, first strike, along with his five sons. Show us what you’re made of, or does he have the guts?
Comment by celtic cynic — October 25, 2007 @ 6:07 pm
No answer, I just thought it was worthwhile to reproduce a comment I totally agree with.
October 25th, 2007 at 7:06 pmMethinks why lead a charge? just drop big bombs…lots of them.
Comment by ThinkProgressPromotesSocialism — October 25, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
So your approach is to murder innocent civilians - OK Hitler, whatever you say!
October 25th, 2007 at 8:05 pmOf course Romney's for bombing Iran! He won't be anywhere near it (unlike all the innocent civilians who will).
I hope we're not stupid enough to elect this a-hole, but then again, look how long Bush has occupied the White House.
October 25th, 2007 at 10:48 pm