Stalin was a commander in chief who used lies all the time.
Stalin abused his power interfering in other countries’ business, even invading them.
Stalin used the power of fear against those who did not agree with him.
Stalin was always speaking as if he was not a mean person.
Stalin abused his power continuously.
Stalin would not listen to the Generals, he would do what HE wanted to do anyway.
Stalin did not respect the people’s will.
Stalin was surrounded by people as bad as he was.
Stalin promised things to his people already knowing that the only ones protected would be those who he appreciated.
Stalin, Stalin, Stalin – it can go on and on….

Ah, I forgot to mention the power of the KGB spying people’s private life. What a coincidence, it seems we have something like a KGBush here in the US, too….

Remember what happened to those people under Stalin’s dictatorship?
Is history repeating itself and nobody sees it?

Oh, one last thing. If “Maryanne” from Gilligan’s Island waterboards, is that torture? Because — and I’ll come out and admit to some sort of weird S&M fetish here — picturing Maryanne waterboarding some terrorist-lookin’ dude, well come on, that’s just totally hot.

No, not jump up and down..Just to realize that, contrary to ‘gulfwargrunt’s’ erroneous insinuation, Rudy has exhibited courage in the service of his country.

Comment by Exley — October 25, 2007 @ 4:48 pm

Haw haw haw! Giuliani is brave because people talked about him! haw haw!

I love America and want to win the war on terror. Can anyone else here say that. NO.

-bushie fan.

WE are the hate filled Nazis??? Which tactics are WE ( the liberals) using? Torture sounds to me like something the Nazis endorsed…they probably wouldn’t have called it that though…sound familiar???

Just for the record, Hitler really loved his country too.

We don’t hate America, but as a rule we don’t approve of torture. for any reason.

Comment by Exley

So he was never in any real danger.

Got it.

Now that he’s running for president, however, and draping himself in the 9-11 attack, I think there is another story which is more relevant: When the WTC was first attacked in 1993, Police and Fire departments found out that they needed an upgrade in their communications equipment so that the two agencies could more efficiently communicate during disasters. Guiliani was mayor for years and did absolutely nothing about this. In fact, he refused to do it for bugetary reasons. Many firemen around the country believe Guiliani was indirectly responsible for the deaths of hundreds of their fellow firemen.

Comment by Liberals Are Filled With Hate — October 25, 2007 @ 2:13 pm

And what would these “radical Muslim” practices be that we give so much respect to? And what, in your view, is a “radical Muslim”?

If you are talking about rituals of daily worship, dietary laws, etc., I respect the right of people of ALL faiths to worship as they wish. Freedom of religion for all. No establishment nor endorsement of any single religion by our government.

If you are talking about the practice of blowing up buildings and committing acts of terror, I have no respect for that. Nor would any reasonable person. And calling a person who would do such a thing a “radical Muslim” isn’t strong enough (and it’s an insult to Muslims). Calling him a “radical extremist crackpot with a very twisted view of Muslim ideology” would be more to the point.

Liberals HATE Christianity.

Comment by Liberals Are Filled With Hate — October 25, 2007 @ 2:14 pm

Channeling Ann Coulter? She made virtually that same “cute” point in her column this week.

Let’s level the playing field between foot baths and the Ten Commandments just in the interest of fairness, though.

1) Washing feet (as well as hands, face, etc.) prior to prayer is an important part of a Muslim’s daily worship. Reading the Ten Commandments is not a required part of daily worship for Jews and Christians (however, it’s recommended they read them often enough to stay familiar with them).

2) A foot bath doesn’t prosthelytize. It doesn’t endorse a particular religion. A foot bath washes feet. Nothing more. The Ten Commandments, however……command. Which DOES amount to an endorsement of a particular religion, especially when at the top of the list is “Thou shalt have no other god before Me.”

3) There is nothing wrong with posting the Ten Commandments in public. Just not in courthouses or in other government buildings.

In short, foot baths don’t fall into the same category as the Ten Commandments. However, scripture from the Quran would. And that should follow the same rules.

While I appreciate the Fantastic Four reference, I think my point is quite clear. If you do not think it takes courage to take on the Mafia the way Rudy did in the 1980s when he was U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, you are crazy. As we see from today’s story, the Mob was none-to-thrilled with Rudy’s aggressiveness (which ultimately led to a crippling of the Mob in the northeast) and considered killing him. To take on that group, as we see, took bravery. You are likely not as familiar with Rudy’s actions and successes while SDNY U.S Attorney as I am, so I understand your inability to understand the courageous path Rudy took.

…maybe you’re just being incredibly sarcastic (i hope), in which case it’s a pretty funny example to offer. otherwise, i’d have to say you’ve surpassed reed richards in elasticity.

This is why I think the bible is a mostly crap, and if you want the Real Deal about Jesus, I would read the Essene-Gnostic Writings, and not the politically expedient Old and New Testicles, which of course the Inquisitors quoted when they were TORTURING witches, Pagans, Gays, Ergot Eaters, Mushroom chewers, Midwives, nudists, and anybody else who questioned and challenged their authority.

Sound Familiar?

Comment by gulfwargrunt — October 25, 2007 @ 1:30 pm”

Testimony: Mob considered killing Giuliani
BY ANTHONY M. DESTEFANO
Newsday.com

October 25, 2007

The bosses of New York’s five Cosa Nostra families discussed killing then-federal prosecutor Rudy Giuliani in 1986, an informant told the FBI, according to testimony Wednesday in Brooklyn state court.

But while the late Gambino crime boss John Gotti pushed the idea, he only had the support of Carmine Persico, the leader of the Colombo crime family, according to the testimony.

“The Bosses of the Luchese, Bonanno and Genovese families rejected the idea, despite strong efforts to convince them otherwise by Gotti and Persico,” said an FBI report of the information given by informant Gregory Scarpa Sr.

newsday.com/news/nationworld/ny-lifbi1025,0,7807966.story

1. You are either an ignorant fool or a liar. Please site a specifica statute or regulation that prevented Atta’s compute from being searched. Your allegation refers to so called walls between intelligence agencies (CIA) and domestic law enforcement agencies exchanging information. The decision concerning Atta’s computer was made all within the FBI. But I demand you show your specific reference or the admission that you simply do not know what you are talking about.

2. You have accused liberals of being like Hitler. I am sorry, but you are the person who would stand behind the tactics adopted by tyrants.

a. The United States has prosecuted US military personnel for using the types of “enhanced interrogation techniques” such as water boarding that you have advocated. Prosecution were undertaken in the Spanish American War, WWII, and the Vietnam War.

b. The NAZI government actually first coined the term “enhanced interrogation” techniques such as you advocate. Indeed, NAZI’s and Japanese military officers/civilians were tried for committing war crime by adopting these tactics.

c. You call liberals wrong headed for criticizing the same tactics that were used by the KGB and, during the Korean War against US POW’s. You honestly support the same tactics that were used against John McCain by the North Vietnamese?

d. The Judge Advocate General of every single uniformed service advocated against the Bush torture memo. Indeed, the JAG’s were excluded from further discussions of the proposed rule after they objected. Do you honestly believe that they hate their country?

TO SUMMARIZE: LIBERALS ARE LIKE HITLER BECAUSE THEY OBJECT TO THE USE OF TACTICS BY THIS ADMINISTRATION THAT HAVE BEEN DE-CRIED AS WAR CRIMES (AND TREATED AS A CRIME WHEN COMMITTED BY US CITIZENTS) BY EVERY SINGLE US ADMINISTRATION SINCE THE SPANISH AMERICAN WAR.

YOU CONDONE THE TACTICS USED BY HITLER, THE NORTH KOREANS, KGB, AND EVERY OTHER FASCIST GOVERNMENT IN RECENT HISTORY. INDEED, YOU ENDORSE THE TACTICS THAT EVERY US AND INTERNATIONAL COURT OF LAW HAS RULED TO BE A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY. YET, LIBERALS ARE THE ONES LIKE HITLER.

3. I could probably understand if such tactics were actually useful. However, they usually lead to misinformation on the part of the subject and not good actionable intelligence. (Oh yes, I have been through a number of interrogation sessions with state and federal law enforcement.) Indeed, anyone can usually resist long enough for their information to become stale. The subject will also mislead until you catch them in their lies. THE TACTICS THAT YOU FAVOR WERE ACTUALLY ONES DEVELOPED TO WRING OUT FALSE CONFESSIONS FOR PROPAGANDA AND SHOW TRIAL PURPOSES. HOWEVER, YOU ARE THE TRUE PATRIOT FOR SUGGESTING THEIR USE.

I wish that I could hate you. Unfortunately, I only feel sorry for you and your sick sense of patriotism. Indeed, you are the one who truly hates this country. You hate the constitution and rule of law that has made this country great. You hate this countries dedication to human rights that, up until this administration, gave it great weight and admiration in the world. You hate this country’s dedication to the rule of law that has been the foundation of this democracy.

Mostly, I take pity on you. You must be such a coward and so frightened by the “terrorists” who pose a serious issue but nothing like the threats faced by this country during the Cold War, WWI, WWII, the Korean conflict and others that cost so many more lives than did the World Trade Tower attack and actually threatened the existence of so many countries without costing us our form of government or respect for the rule of law. Please find the backbone to be a real American.

We’re Number 10, We’re Number 10, We’re Number 10…GO TEAM GO !!!

Buck Fush

Comment by missmolly — October 25, 2007 @ 3:55 pm

Well Spoken!! I 100% agree. I think Hillary is trying to out “macho” the war drum beaters, and all of the AIPAC whores are dancing to another country’s/Defense Industry’s/Oil Company’s tune instead of the people of the USA.

We all remember how we disliked LBJ. Party does not matter. Being a human does.