Webb: Lieberman and Kyl bring ‘Cheney element’ to Senate.
By on Oct 25th, 2007 at 6:02 pm
Webb: Lieberman and Kyl bring ‘Cheney element’ to Senate.
On MSNBC’s Hardball today, Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) said that his colleagues, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ), who introduced a hawkish Iran resolution in the Senate, are “carrying water for the administration, for the hawks inside the administration” by amping up rhetoric in the Senate against Iran. “I don’t think there’s any doubt about that,” said Webb. He then added, “the Cheney element of the administration is well represented in the Senate.” Watch it:
[flv http://video.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/matthewswebb5443.320.240.flv]
UPDATE: Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) offered a non-binding resolution today “affirming that any offensive military action taken against Iran must be explicitly approved by Congress before such action may be initiated.”
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Yup. The Cheney element.
HATEFUL Chickenhawk WARMONGERS who never served a DAY in the military, they call for OTHERS' kids to DIE for their LIES.
Pretty much ALL the Rapeublicans in the Senate and House...
October 25th, 2007 at 6:06 pmTailrunner Joe.
October 25th, 2007 at 6:07 pmArn,
Guess all of us "phoney soldiers", including Webb and Hagel are not patriots either. I am sure Faux NoNooz and the rusher and beck will have fun with these comments.
October 25th, 2007 at 6:08 pmCheney Sycophants - Lieberman & Kyle
October 25th, 2007 at 6:10 pmSen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) offered a non-binding resolution today “affirming that any offensive military action taken against Iran must be explicitly approved by Congress before such action may be initiated.â€
How about a BINDING resolution that any attack by military forces on any other nation is an act of war, and must therefore go through an official declaration of war by congress. That hasn't happened since 1941.
October 25th, 2007 at 6:17 pmThat hasn’t happened since 1941.
Comment by Chris L — October 25, 2007 @ 6:17 pm
Right...
It's just a "police action"... **cough... cough**
October 25th, 2007 at 6:18 pm"non-binding resolution"... “affirming that any offensive military action taken against Iran must be explicitly approved by Congress before such action may be initiated.â€
And that Fascist Dictator Brownshirt Liar will just blow them off and do what ever the MadMan wants to do, after all, that is what Dictators do.
We're Number 10, We're Number 10, We're Number 10, GO TEAM GO !!!
Buck Fush
October 25th, 2007 at 6:21 pmArn,
Guess all of us “phoney soldiersâ€, including Webb and Hagel are not patriots either. I am sure Faux NoNooz and the rusher and beck will have fun with these comments.
Comment by upside99 — October 25, 2007 @ 6:08 pm
Notice I said "pretty much all".
Webb is DEFINITELY a PATRIOT.
So is Joe Wilson.
So is Richard Clarke.
All THREE were Republicans, now TWO are Democrats, because of the TREASON of Bush and Cheney and their NeoNazi followers.
It's the Chickenhawks I'm talking about.
As far as "the rusher" and the REST of the Nazi propaganda slime,
what do I care if they want to quote this blog?
They'd have to read the TRUTH, and it BURNS THEM like sunlight on a VAMPIRE (Dick Cheney and Robert Novek, e.g).
And I sincerely hope one of the "scumbags" from New Orleans or a VET from California puts a bullet through Beck's head, so that if
blood DOESN'T come out of his eyes, as he promised, it will have an ALTERNATE VENUE.
And if they DO read this:
Bush is a COXUCKER punk TRAITOR to the USA who deserves to be TORTURED in Gitmo until he DROPS DEAD and goes to hell, to be
with his new MASTER Satan.
October 25th, 2007 at 6:22 pmIt’s just a “police actionâ€â€¦ **cough… cough**
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — October 25, 2007 @ 6:18 pm
#
Exactly my point. We give the president too much unilateral power with "police actions", "conflicts", and "operations". If our military lands on foreign soil and starts shooting people, that should be considered an official declaration of war.
October 25th, 2007 at 6:23 pmHow about a BINDING resolution that any attack by military forces on any other nation is an act of war, and must therefore go through an official declaration of war by congress. That hasn’t happened since 1941.
Comment by Chris L
What is it about these "non binding" things. What possible use could they provide? How about just standing up and telling (not asking) the administration they are not allowed to attack Iran without explicit approval from Congress. Put the WH on notice that any military action against Iran will not be funded and going against the Congress will have Constitutional consequences. Is that so difficult?
October 25th, 2007 at 6:24 pmComment by Arn Gunnutes — October 25, 2007 @ 6:22 pm
I hear you! I went to Vietnam a born Repug and came back cured of that disease after a year of combat and a real eye full of how the Repugs can make lying a major art form.
And I would have to say, Dubya and Darth make Nixon look like a Democrat!
October 25th, 2007 at 6:27 pmthough some may enjoy it, i find Matthews bipolitical behavior revolting.
(not that there's anything wrong with being bipolitical)
October 25th, 2007 at 6:28 pmsorry about the OT, and it may be old news, but...
um - did bush make an underhanded cut at the louisiana governor?
i just heard him say, while in california - mostly paraphrasing -
"it makes a significant difference, when you have someone
in the state house to lead"
wow...
more "comparisons to new orleans"...
October 25th, 2007 at 6:34 pm.
Why a non-binding resolution? Why not pass a freakin bill telling the madman in the White House that HE MAY NOT DECLARE WAR ONCE AGAIN WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION. It seems to me I remember Nancy Pelosi saying that they would do something to make sure that Bush didn't invade Iran. Well, Nancy, it's time to step up to the plate.
October 25th, 2007 at 6:37 pmkaty, yes he did.
"It makes a significant difference when you have somebody in the statehouse willing to take the lead."
The jerk.
October 25th, 2007 at 6:38 pmComment by Arn Gunnutes — October 25, 2007 @ 6:22 pm
Do you think you might tamp down the use of bold type a little? Or, really, a lot? The point of bold type is to emphasize a word or phrase not an entire comment. You make it difficult to read what you write, which may not be what you intended.
October 25th, 2007 at 6:38 pmMaybe they'll contract the war in Iran to Blackwater - I hear their gig in Iraq is giving them bummin' vibes lately.
October 25th, 2007 at 6:41 pmkaty and Candyce,
I I here, very near the Santiago fire. THe only reason Arnold got any thing done is because FEMA was on it right away, along with the DoD and Arnold pulled 900 Nat Guard troops off the border.
Let's see:
FEMA didn't even know there were people in the Super Dome for 4 days.
The DoD was nowhere to be found in New Orleans
NO got Blackwater instead of Nat Guard.
There is absolutely no comparison. Zip zero, nada, ziltch. Bush is using CA as a photo op to push for his Austrian buddy.
October 25th, 2007 at 6:42 pmGUMMITCH: I DON'T KNOW, I KIND OF LIKE THE UNIQUE LOOK IT GIVES A POST.
October 25th, 2007 at 6:43 pmKNOW WHAT I MEAN?
October 25th, 2007 at 6:44 pmHELLO?
October 25th, 2007 at 6:44 pmYes Mr P that look is unique. You are the only one who's post looks like a retard wrote it.
October 25th, 2007 at 6:44 pmHey! Watch it! I'm not Mr. P.
October 25th, 2007 at 6:46 pmCan you hear me?!
October 25th, 2007 at 6:48 pmWHAT?
October 25th, 2007 at 6:49 pmHey! Watch it! I’m not Mr. P.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
Nope. Marcus is one of us...He's got a funny name, but he is one of us :)
October 25th, 2007 at 6:50 pmThanks for the cred, StratRat.
October 25th, 2007 at 6:51 pmWishful thinking on my part, but Webb is a clear leader that should be running for president.
Webb is one fo the few that could offer us hope in regaining our country from the morass of the Bush years.
October 25th, 2007 at 6:56 pmThanks for the cred, StratRat.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
Yes sir...
October 25th, 2007 at 7:00 pmjust to pass this along, via rachel maddow...
Mukasey's confirmation: a vote about torture
The attorney general nominee's evasive remarks on 'water-boarding' should disqualify him from the job.
By Jonathan Turley
This week, the Senate Judiciary Committee is expected to vote in favor of Michael Mukasey to be the new U.S. attorney general, sending his nomination to the full Senate for confirmation. What is most surprising is the wave of support from the committee's Democrats, who seem determined to ignore what they clearly view as a minor flaw in the nominee: his refusal to denounce the deplorable practice of "water-boarding" and his apparent willingness to lie to duck the issue.
October 25th, 2007 at 7:04 pm[...]
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-turley24oct24,0,1182359.story?coll=la-news-comment-opinions
...
BREAKING
US imposes new sanctions on Iran
October 25th, 2007 at 7:04 pmGee, after his strong words, I wonder how Hagel will vote on this resolution?
October 25th, 2007 at 7:05 pmMarcus Aurelius is one of the names Mr. P used to use, just saying.
October 25th, 2007 at 7:06 pm"Non-binding?"
Durbin, now is not the time to wave a dull sword.
October 25th, 2007 at 7:17 pmI agree what is with all these Non-Binding resolutions, such a waste of time and paper. Where is the backbone of anyone up there and say NO MORE ! I am still mad at Pelosi making Stark apologize, why is it Repubs can say the meanest crap and oh, thats ok but let a Dem say anything against Bush and we have to back off and apologize so we don't hurt his feelings.
October 25th, 2007 at 7:19 pmThe English are so much better at telling it like it is, sure wish we had their backbone in our Representatives.
“Non-binding?â€
Durbin, now is not the time to wave a dull sword.
Comment by Zooey — October 25, 2007 @ 7:17 pm
The republicans must just laugh every time the democrats put out another "non-binding" resolution. They mean nothing in this day and age.
October 25th, 2007 at 7:20 pmThe military-industrial complex apparently has enough Senators and Congressmen in their pocket to do exactly what they want with our money and with the US military. We've arrived at a time when what Americans want is inconsequential and quite besides the point.
October 25th, 2007 at 7:23 pmOh good. Another non-binding resolution. That will teach em.
October 25th, 2007 at 7:25 pmNope. Never. I am the original Marcus Aurelius - actual dead Roman Emperor.
October 25th, 2007 at 7:27 pmGoddamned non-binding resolutions.
October 25th, 2007 at 7:36 pmZionist Joe Lieberman is trying very hard to get the US into a war with Iran. My answer to "tailgunner Joe" is: I'll be damned if my three militarily aged children (two boys and a girl) are going to die for Israel. No, they won't. I won't allow it!
October 25th, 2007 at 7:36 pmA non-binding resolution is like an empty threat to ground your teenager when they've broken a rule or something. Pointless.
I posted this link on the previous Iran-related thread. I know it's long, but it is definitely worthwhile reading.
"The Secret History of the Impending War with Iran That the White House Doesn't Want You to Know"
http://www.esquire.com/print-this/iranbriefing1107#
October 25th, 2007 at 7:38 pm“The Secret History of the Impending War with Iran That the White House Doesn’t Want You to Knowâ€
http://www.esquire.com/print-this/iranbriefing1107#
Comment by impeachcheneythenbush — October 25, 2007 @ 7:38 pm
That's just frightening... Holy crap!
October 25th, 2007 at 8:47 pmOh, look at the tiny little troll - isn't it CUTE??
October 25th, 2007 at 8:49 pmAdd this to the list of 1,000 meaningless votes put out for no reason but to pander to the lunatic fringe left. Will the 11%ers never learn?
Comment by TCDon — October 25, 2007 @ 9:11 pm
October 25th, 2007 at 9:34 pmWhen all your WAR CRIMINAL heroes like MURDERER Bush the COXUCKER punk TRAITOR are in Gitmo, and being TORTURED...
DURBIN IS A DIRTBAG.
WHEN WILL THESE FOOLS FINALLY REALIZE THAT NON-BINDING RESOLUTIONS ARE AS USELESS AS THE PAPER THEY ARE WRITTEN ON!!!
GET SOME BALLS!
October 25th, 2007 at 10:03 pmhttp://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/10/25/quds.force/index.html
Now the meatheads are accusing Iran of aiding their enemies the Taliban, after they helped us defeat the Taliban in 2001.
Do they even listen to themselves??
October 25th, 2007 at 10:23 pmNow the meatheads are accusing Iran of aiding their enemies the Taliban, after they helped us defeat the Taliban in 2001.
Do they even listen to themselves??
Comment by toasterhead — October 25, 2007 @ 10:23 pm
They're trusting American ignorance. It has come through for them before. Why not now?
October 25th, 2007 at 10:36 pmchickendoves, glad to see your all your blood pressure rising over nothing.
Comment by robroy — October 25, 2007 @ 8:36 pm
you're the one making all the noise, chickenhawk.
October 25th, 2007 at 10:37 pmAdd this to the list of 1,000 meaningless votes put out for no reason but to pander to the lunatic fringe left. Will the 11%ers never learn?
Comment by TCDon — October 25, 2007 @ 9:11 pm
the lunatic fringe 76%? hey, stick your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye; your party is done, ruined, finished. Bush is applying more nails to the coffin every time he opens his gob. I'm loving it, he makes the whole party look like Idi Amin was their ethics teacher.
October 25th, 2007 at 10:40 pmchickendoves, glad to see your all your blood pressure rising over nothing.
Comment by robroy — October 25, 2007 @ 8:36 pm
Hopefully it will be about nothing. Try anything else such as a war and you'll regret it!
October 25th, 2007 at 10:45 pmFYI, Webb was on The News Hour (pbs.org) last night talking about this issue as well. I didn't get to hear the entire interview, but a transcript might be available.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:35 am