Comments on: U.S. Iraq strategy leans on Chalabi again. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:20:33 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Exley http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/comment-page-7/#comment-4137848 Exley Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:59:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/#comment-4137848 "Twenty decapitated bodies were found dumped near a police station on Monday..." Disgusting and tragic. Really illustrates the evil that we are fighting over there. “Twenty decapitated bodies were found dumped near a police station on Monday…”

Disgusting and tragic. Really illustrates the evil that we are fighting over there.

]]> By: cha cha cha http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/comment-page-7/#comment-4137723 cha cha cha Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:08:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/#comment-4137723 "Twenty decapitated bodies were found dumped near a police station on Monday west of the volatile city of Baqouba in Iraq...In Baghdad, a U.S. brigadier general was wounded in an IED attack Monday, the U.S. military reported. He was the highest-ranking American officer to be hurt since the conflict began in March 2003." “Twenty decapitated bodies were found dumped near a police station on Monday west of the volatile city of Baqouba in Iraq…In Baghdad, a U.S. brigadier general was wounded in an IED attack Monday, the U.S. military reported. He was the highest-ranking American officer to be hurt since the conflict began in March 2003.”

]]> By: hterrya http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/comment-page-7/#comment-4137671 hterrya Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:42:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/#comment-4137671 Reporting abuse everybody? <em>Comment by Shayne — October 29, 2007 @ 2:00 pm</em> I just reported the one at 11:43 am <strong>Back on topic:</strong> Did you see the topic: Safire: Romney should make Petraeus his VP? http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/safire-romney-should-make-petraeus-his-vp/#comments Petraeus as SiCKO DiCKO's replacement and Col. Steven Boylan replacing Libby. <strong>Dream team! {:-)</strong> Reporting abuse everybody?
Comment by Shayne — October 29, 2007 @ 2:00 pm

I just reported the one at 11:43 am

Back on topic: Did you see the topic: Safire: Romney should make Petraeus his VP? http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/safire-romney-should-make-petraeus-his-vp/#comments

Petraeus as SiCKO DiCKO’s replacement and Col. Steven Boylan replacing Libby. Dream team!
{:-)

]]> By: Shayne http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/comment-page-7/#comment-4137453 Shayne Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:00:59 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/#comment-4137453 And Exley continues to spam the thread with off topic discussions of last night while others have tried to move back to the topic. Reporting abuse everybody? And Exley continues to spam the thread with off topic discussions of last night while others have tried to move back to the topic. Reporting abuse everybody?

]]> By: Exley http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/comment-page-7/#comment-4137285 Exley Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:43:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/#comment-4137285 Bad Eye, "I’ll admit it…we all do it at times." Oh, sure. No doubt....But at least, I thin, we try to keep things quasi-connected to the main topic. I was referring more to the off-topic childish name-calling that took up so much space last night. Bad Eye,

“I’ll admit it…we all do it at times.”

Oh, sure. No doubt….But at least, I thin, we try to keep things quasi-connected to the main topic. I was referring more to the off-topic childish name-calling that took up so much space last night.

]]> By: Bad Eye http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/comment-page-7/#comment-4137249 Bad Eye Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:28:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/#comment-4137249 <em>Comment by hterrya — October 29, 2007 @ 10:37 am</em> Given the Rightwingers bashing the Democrats for not appearing at a Fox-sponsored debate, making such claims as "how can we expect a Democratic president to take on the terrorists when they run away from Fox News," I wonder what they say about the Pentagon shunning left-leaning blogs and instead feeding "news" from Iraq to the Righties? We may never know, as the silence has been deafening. Comment by hterrya — October 29, 2007 @ 10:37 am

Given the Rightwingers bashing the Democrats for not appearing at a Fox-sponsored debate, making such claims as “how can we expect a Democratic president to take on the terrorists when they run away from Fox News,” I wonder what they say about the Pentagon shunning left-leaning blogs and instead feeding “news” from Iraq to the Righties? We may never know, as the silence has been deafening.

]]> By: Bad Eye http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/comment-page-7/#comment-4137243 Bad Eye Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:24:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/#comment-4137243 <em>Comment by Exley — October 29, 2007 @ 10:30 am</em> Well, some of us were kinda guilty for going off topic with the Clinton/Bush/U.S.S. Cole/strikes against al Qaeda comments. I'll admit it...we all do it at times. Comment by Exley — October 29, 2007 @ 10:30 am

Well, some of us were kinda guilty for going off topic with the Clinton/Bush/U.S.S. Cole/strikes against al Qaeda comments. I’ll admit it…we all do it at times.

]]> By: pbg http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/comment-page-7/#comment-4137183 pbg Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:37:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/#comment-4137183 Well, the highlight of the thread for me was brandy mentioning three posters and saying that the four of them supplied much entertainment. Well, the highlight of the thread for me was brandy mentioning three posters and saying that the four of them supplied much entertainment.

]]> By: hterrya http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/comment-page-7/#comment-4137181 hterrya Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:37:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/#comment-4137181 I have reported TCDon for abuse. Have you? If not, please do so! And thanks to TP for reducing the troll-dung by 27 posts! If the known serial trolls were removed from the TP site, that number could have been reduced by at least another 100 worthless posts. Good post, Bad Eye. Now we are back on topic. Col. Steven Boylan, Petraeus’ spokesman, in defending Ahmad Chalabi with a lame comment on his "energy," shows himself to be an egregious political hack. Boylan's email exchange with Greenwald shows the same. Petraeus probably has to keep the political hack as a quid pro quo for keeping his own job. Chalabi is playing the current corrupt, criminal administration like a cheap juice harp. He has their number. I have reported TCDon for abuse. Have you? If not, please do so!

And thanks to TP for reducing the troll-dung by 27 posts!

If the known serial trolls were removed from the TP site, that number could have been reduced by at least another 100 worthless posts.

Good post, Bad Eye. Now we are back on topic.

Col. Steven Boylan, Petraeus’ spokesman, in defending Ahmad Chalabi with a lame comment on his “energy,” shows himself to be an egregious political hack. Boylan’s email exchange with Greenwald shows the same. Petraeus probably has to keep the political hack as a quid pro quo for keeping his own job. Chalabi is playing the current corrupt, criminal administration like a cheap juice harp. He has their number.

]]> By: Exley http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/comment-page-7/#comment-4137167 Exley Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:30:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/#comment-4137167 #309, Bad Eye, Agreed, Chalabi was supposed to be the focus of this thread. But if you look back thru the whole thing, blame for derailing the thread can hardly be laid on TCDon exlcusively...People like Shayne, lmjp1, and RHF cluttered up this thread with irrelevancies long before TCDon's post this morning. Only you, MisterOpus1, Keith and I tried to keep the thread on-topic. #309, Bad Eye,

Agreed, Chalabi was supposed to be the focus of this thread. But if you look back thru the whole thing, blame for derailing the thread can hardly be laid on TCDon exlcusively…People like Shayne, lmjp1, and RHF cluttered up this thread with irrelevancies long before TCDon’s post this morning.

Only you, MisterOpus1, Keith and I tried to keep the thread on-topic.

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/comment-page-7/#comment-4137164 Zooey Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:26:56 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/#comment-4137164 Is TCDon going to do the same whining on every thread? :D Is TCDon going to do the same whining on every thread? :D

]]> By: Bad Eye http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/comment-page-7/#comment-4137146 Bad Eye Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:09:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/#comment-4137146 <em>Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 9:08 am</em> God forbid that you'd actually offer up discussion on the U.S. running back to Chalabi. Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 9:08 am

God forbid that you’d actually offer up discussion on the U.S. running back to Chalabi.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/comment-page-7/#comment-4137118 Lefty Patriot Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:49:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/#comment-4137118 Troll, troll, troll, troll. Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 9:08 am Come back when you learn how to read, or think, whichever happens first. Your "interpretation" is as accurate as Bush's WMD claims. Troll, troll, troll, troll.

Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 9:08 am

Come back when you learn how to read, or think, whichever happens first. Your “interpretation” is as accurate as Bush’s WMD claims.

]]> By: Bad Eye http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/comment-page-7/#comment-4137073 Bad Eye Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:38:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/#comment-4137073 <em>...this feeling was hardly universal among Republicans and was not at all prevalent among the Republican Congressional leadership, such as Gingrich and then-Majority Leader Lott and then-Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Jesse Helms. Comment by Exley — October 28, 2007 @ 11:34 pm</em> Considering that not all members of Congress or the Senate were interviewed, nor were their feelings otherwise made public, there is a good chance that many more questioned the timing of the raid. …this feeling was hardly universal among Republicans and was not at all prevalent among the Republican Congressional leadership, such as Gingrich and then-Majority Leader Lott and then-Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Jesse Helms.

Comment by Exley — October 28, 2007 @ 11:34 pm

Considering that not all members of Congress or the Senate were interviewed, nor were their feelings otherwise made public, there is a good chance that many more questioned the timing of the raid.

]]> By: cha cha cha http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/comment-page-7/#comment-4137072 cha cha cha Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:38:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/#comment-4137072 "BAGHDAD - A suicide bomber on a bicycle blew himself up Monday among recruits gathered outside a police camp in Baqouba, northeast of Baghdad, killing at least 27 people and wounding 20, police and hospital officials said." “BAGHDAD – A suicide bomber on a bicycle blew himself up Monday among recruits gathered outside a police camp in Baqouba, northeast of Baghdad, killing at least 27 people and wounding 20, police and hospital officials said.”

]]> By: Bad Eye http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/comment-page-7/#comment-4137071 Bad Eye Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:34:42 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/#comment-4137071 <em>Comment by RemoveBush — October 28, 2007 @ 11:24 pm</em> Hmmm...with all those Republicans questioning the decisions of the President, you'd think they'd be labeled traitors and supporters of the terrorists. Comment by RemoveBush — October 28, 2007 @ 11:24 pm

Hmmm…with all those Republicans questioning the decisions of the President, you’d think they’d be labeled traitors and supporters of the terrorists.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/comment-page-7/#comment-4137070 Lefty Patriot Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:32:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/#comment-4137070 Exley is the very essence of the serial troll: lie, defend it, lie some more, claim victory and run away. It's textbook, and it all lies and subterfuge. It's also the reason the GOP will be dismantled and destroyed in the coming elections. Exley is the very essence of the serial troll: lie, defend it, lie some more, claim victory and run away. It’s textbook, and it all lies and subterfuge. It’s also the reason the GOP will be dismantled and destroyed in the coming elections.

]]> By: Bad Eye http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/comment-page-7/#comment-4137069 Bad Eye Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:31:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/#comment-4137069 <em>Comment by Exley — October 28, 2007 @ 11:24 pm</em> Since you are trotting out former CIA agents as proof that Clinton did "next to nothing" to get bin Laden, will you also accept the fact from another former CIA agent that Bush fixed intelligence to go to war in Iraq? From an interview in Spiegel Online with Tyler Drumheller, former chief of the CIA's European operations: <em>SPIEGEL: The German government was convinced that “Curveball” would not be used in the now famous presentation that then US Secretary of State Colin Powell gave in 2003 before the United Nations Security Council. Drumheller: I had assured my German friends that it wouldn’t be in the speech. I really thought that I had put it to bed. I had warned the CIA deputy John McLaughlin that this case could be fabricated. The night before the speech, then CIA director George Tenet called me at home. I said: “Hey Boss, be careful with that German report. It’s supposed to be taken out. There are a lot of problems with that.” He said: “Yeah, yeah. Right. Don't worry about that.” SPIEGEL: But it turned out to be the centerpiece in Powell’s presentation — and nobody had told him about the doubts. Drumheller: I turned on the TV in my office, and there it was. So the first thing I thought, having worked in the government all my life, was that we probably gave Powell the wrong speech. We checked our files and found out that they had just ignored it. SPIEGEL: So the White House just ignored the fact that the whole story might have been untrue? Drumheller: The policy was set. The war in Iraq was coming and they were looking for intelligence to fit into the policy.</em> Comment by Exley — October 28, 2007 @ 11:24 pm

Since you are trotting out former CIA agents as proof that Clinton did “next to nothing” to get bin Laden, will you also accept the fact from another former CIA agent that Bush fixed intelligence to go to war in Iraq? From an interview in Spiegel Online with Tyler Drumheller, former chief of the CIA’s European operations:

SPIEGEL: The German government was convinced that “Curveball” would not be used in the now famous presentation that then US Secretary of State Colin Powell gave in 2003 before the United Nations Security Council.

Drumheller: I had assured my German friends that it wouldn’t be in the speech. I really thought that I had put it to bed. I had warned the CIA deputy John McLaughlin that this case could be fabricated. The night before the speech, then CIA director George Tenet called me at home. I said: “Hey Boss, be careful with that German report. It’s supposed to be taken out. There are a lot of problems with that.” He said: “Yeah, yeah. Right. Don’t worry about that.”

SPIEGEL: But it turned out to be the centerpiece in Powell’s presentation — and nobody had told him about the doubts.

Drumheller: I turned on the TV in my office, and there it was. So the first thing I thought, having worked in the government all my life, was that we probably gave Powell the wrong speech. We checked our files and found out that they had just ignored it.

SPIEGEL: So the White House just ignored the fact that the whole story might have been untrue?

Drumheller: The policy was set. The war in Iraq was coming and they were looking for intelligence to fit into the policy.

]]> By: Dave C http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/comment-page-7/#comment-4137065 Dave C Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:11:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/#comment-4137065 After 7 hours of that discussion it's probably worth repeating... TROLL WARNING: exley is a known serial troll! After 7 hours of that discussion it’s probably worth repeating…

TROLL WARNING: exley is a known serial troll!

]]> By: hterrya http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/comment-page-7/#comment-4137062 hterrya Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:40:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/28/us-iraq-strategy-leans-on-chalabi-again/#comment-4137062 For the record Exley the only thing you have proven is that troll buster is 100% correct and discussing anything with you people is a huge waste of time. <em>Comment by Shayne — October 29, 2007 @ 2:19 am</em> Right you are, Shayne. I have read all 326 posts. A LOT of people have wasted a LOT of time responding to the troll. The troll NEVER comes into a thread to debate, as is repeatedly claimed. He/She comes in here to do her/his troll duty. He/She distracts, lies when necessary to cause a HUGE conflagration, and generally does his/her best to have troll dung and troll dung responses so spread over the thread that people get aggravated and leave. He/She is one of the trolls most responsible for TP changing to its current system. Responding on the thread is the WRONG place to respond. That is what the "Report Abuse" icon is for. Please use it. For the record Exley the only thing you have proven is that troll buster is 100% correct and discussing anything with you people is a huge waste of time.
Comment by Shayne — October 29, 2007 @ 2:19 am

Right you are, Shayne. I have read all 326 posts. A LOT of people have wasted a LOT of time responding to the troll. The troll NEVER comes into a thread to debate, as is repeatedly claimed. He/She comes in here to do her/his troll duty. He/She distracts, lies when necessary to cause a HUGE conflagration, and generally does his/her best to have troll dung and troll dung responses so spread over the thread that people get aggravated and leave. He/She is one of the trolls most responsible for TP changing to its current system.

Responding on the thread is the WRONG place to respond. That is what the “Report Abuse” icon is for. Please use it.

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