General injured by roadside bomb in Iraq.
By on Oct 29th, 2007 at 5:43 pm
General injured by roadside bomb in Iraq.
Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Dorko, the commanding general of the Gulf Region Division, was injured by a roadside bomb in Iraq today. Dorko, who is the highest-ranking American officer to be hurt since the war began in March 2003, is in stable condition. CNN reports:
[flv http://video.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/GeneralHurtIraq.320.240.flv]
CNN Senior Pentagon Correspondent Jamie McIntyre notes that Dorko’s injury shows “that even as U.S. troop casualties are coming down, Iraq remains a very deadly place.”
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Was he being protected by Blackwater "independent contractors?"
October 29th, 2007 at 5:47 pmDamn!
October 29th, 2007 at 5:48 pmLet's hope he gets the care he deserves and recovers quickly. All our soldiers deserve the finest care we can give.
October 29th, 2007 at 5:49 pmObviously the Good General tripped over the olive branches and palm fronds laid down for him after imbibing in the champagne provided in celebration of the end of violence in Iraq. Welcome to the spin machine! Kinda portrays the lies of General Betray-us, doesn't it?
October 29th, 2007 at 5:52 pmWell, it only took 4 posts for a “progressive†to mock an injury to an American Soldier.
Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 5:55 pm
Well, it only took 5 posts for a troll to whine, while blaming a poster instead of the incompetence of Betrayus and the Bushco machine. if you want the troops protected, troll, ENLIST. Otherwise, it's just your usual cowardice and spin.
October 29th, 2007 at 5:57 pmAnd only 5 for a troll to say something stupid.
October 29th, 2007 at 5:57 pmSeems like what the troops are saying in the Washington Post article have truth to it, despite the redblogs trying to descredit their comments. Oh, those must be the "phoney" soldiers that have been there for 14 months.
October 29th, 2007 at 5:58 pmTrolls - We just want equal opportunity for Generals and foot soldiers. Anyone who has been in the military can understand that.
October 29th, 2007 at 6:00 pmLet’s hope he gets the care he deserves and recovers quickly. All our soldiers deserve the finest care we can give.
Comment by nanlichi
Agreed! In spite of the incompetence of the Bush administration's ability to properly care for our brave soldiers.
October 29th, 2007 at 6:00 pmThe guy had to become a General so people would stop making fun of his name.
Seriously, I hope his injuries are the kind a person can fully recover from.
October 29th, 2007 at 6:05 pmThat remark about troop casualties coming down is hardly even true. Although the total deaths of U.S. soldiers is down for this month, every other month this year it has above the war long monthly average of 74 except for September, which was only marginally lower at 69. So one month out of 56 makes a trend? I don't think so, although I bet our koolaid guzzling troll TCDon probably buys into it. That is when he is paying attention at all, which is almost never. And let's not forget that 28 policemen were killed and 11 tribal leaders kidnapped in the past 48 hours.
TCDon, the good German.
October 29th, 2007 at 6:05 pmTCDon, unlike you, we want our troops home. You want them there where this happens to them ON A DAILY BASIS.
Get your sorry coward ass over there and serve if you believe so much in Bush's lost cause.
October 29th, 2007 at 6:06 pmOh, God, I'm glad I wasn't this guy in grade school! Unless he WAS the bully, who can tell. You do have to be something of a dynamic individual to rise to the rank of a general.
October 29th, 2007 at 6:10 pmI'm sure the reich-wingers will claim this proof that the surge is working (Tm) and that we are "winning" in Iraq.
October 29th, 2007 at 6:12 pmTCDon,
Pay no attention to the heartfelt well-wishes by nanlichi at #3, you f_cking wanker. Piss off.
October 29th, 2007 at 6:16 pmGod speed, General Dorko. Can we just declare victory and leave?
October 29th, 2007 at 6:21 pmWe are told that the troop deaths are down, yet the wounded are brought home late, late at night to Walter Reed. The caskets being brought home are not photographed for privacy issues.
October 29th, 2007 at 6:21 pmA huge lie involving a brave female soldier concocted to make the administration look good.
Soldiers die and later we find out a cover up on their fratricide was from the top on down.
And we wonder why we can't trust this administration?
TCDon is a known serial troll.
Please do not feed the serial troll.
October 29th, 2007 at 6:23 pmI did pay attention to it. I “recommended†it.
Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 6:20 pm
In typical troll style, you "recommend" the good quietly, but piss and moan loudly about another comment you perceive as mockery of a soldier.
October 29th, 2007 at 6:23 pmAn injured General Dorko, to whom I wish a speedy recovery.
Injured in Iraq due to the LIES of an AWOL coward WAR CRIMINAL "president" Dorko.
Sincerely,
NRA Gun Nutes
October 29th, 2007 at 6:25 pmTroll Buster - trolls have a right to add their comments as long as they stay on the issue what is the problem? We need to be as open minded as we tell them to be. Your constant admonishments are annoying.
October 29th, 2007 at 6:25 pmThis phrase keeps going though my mind on this one:
As ye reap, so shall ye sow.
October 29th, 2007 at 6:26 pmOr vice versa...:o/
October 29th, 2007 at 6:26 pmTroll Buster - trolls have a right to add their comments as long as they stay on the issue what is the problem? We need to be as open minded as we tell them to be. Your constant admonishments are annoying.
Comment by texaslady — October 29, 2007 @ 6:25 pm
Sorry, NOT a "troll", Texas lady, a PAID DoD military PSYOPS here to LIE and obfuscate the TRUTH.
http://www.iwar.org.uk/iwar/
Telling us we want to:
No, Matt, but some left-wingers will use this to falsely claim this is proof that the surge is failing, that “the war is lost†and that we should quit, retreat and admit defeat.
So, what is "victory", PSYOPS Sgt. TCDorko??
Sincerely,
NRA Gun Nutes
October 29th, 2007 at 6:30 pmDorko's unit was being guarded by an British PMC security firm. Pentagon should be ashamed that it cannot even guard its generals with its own U.S. troops. Even worse we had to hire a British firm.
October 29th, 2007 at 6:40 pmNaaaaawwwww. That sh!t happened a long time ago. We don't have to admit defeat as there is no enemy to surrender to and we don't have to retreat, we just need to leave and nobody is quitting anything. These soldiers will still have to fulfill their contracts at home.
Your argument is empty like your head.
October 29th, 2007 at 6:40 pm#27 and just maybe one will start thinking even if he/she are paid to disrupt....we all want freedom of speech don't we?
October 29th, 2007 at 6:40 pmComment by texaslady
I am all for free speech and civil discourse, something this vile little troll is fighting to prevent.
October 29th, 2007 at 6:42 pmWrong.
Conservatives have every right to their opinion. Trolls have no rights to anything other than being ridiculed.
Do you know what a troll is? It is not a nick name for conservatives. Go look up "Internet Troll"
October 29th, 2007 at 6:42 pmWas the general travelling in an Army convoy that was guarded by soilders not contractors?
If he was being guarded by contractors I think it really is time to pack up and come home. If the military can't guard their own there is something wrong with the leadership that has allowed the idiot in the whitehouse to screw up our fighting forces.
Impeach Cheney/Bush, replace the Speaker of the House if need be to accomplish the task.
October 29th, 2007 at 6:42 pmTroll Buster - trolls have a right to add their comments as long as they stay on the issue what is the problem? We need to be as open minded as we tell them to be. Your constant admonishments are annoying.
Comment by texaslady — October 29, 2007 @ 6:25 pm
My feelings exactly. Thank you, texaslady!
October 29th, 2007 at 6:43 pmComment by Saint Augustine — October 29, 2007 @ 6:42 pm
October 29th, 2007 at 6:44 pmSee #28
No, Matt, but some left-wingers will use this to falsely claim this is proof that the surge is failing, that “the war is lost†and that we should quit, retreat and admit defeat.
Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 6:15 pm
Defeat? You didn't get the memo, we won the WAR, at this point we are OCCUPYING A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY, there's no VICTORY in that, ONLY OPPRESSION YOU NAZI IDIOT!
October 29th, 2007 at 6:45 pmSorry, NOT a “trollâ€, Texas lady, a PAID DoD military PSYOPS here to LIE and obfuscate the TRUTH.
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — October 29, 2007 @ 6:30 pm
Is TCDon what they're calling a military PSYOPS these days? No wonder the DoD has lost the battle for the "hearts and minds" of the people.
This TCDon sh*t head couldn't fool a grade school child!
October 29th, 2007 at 6:51 pmIs TCDon what they’re calling a military PSYOPS these days? No wonder the DoD has lost the battle for the “hearts and minds†of the people.
This TCDon sh*t head couldn’t fool a grade school child!
Comment by foreyes — October 29, 2007 @ 6:51 pm
Well to be fair, they have lowered the recruiting standards substantially! That does explain why so many GOP faithful are there!
October 29th, 2007 at 6:52 pmTCDON:
If you are not a coward and your mommy allows you to stay up late, I challenge you to a one on one debate, here at the end of the last thread at midnight EDT. I will wait until 12:05 am EDT.
October 29th, 2007 at 6:57 pmComment by leftcoast @ 25
Thanks, I did miss your informative comment in my rush to comment.
I get the feeling that there are people in this administration who are on drugs and others who need to be highly medicated.
Will Congress not open their eyes to the destruction this administration is doing and stop the madness?
October 29th, 2007 at 6:58 pmDo you know what a troll is? It is not a nick name for conservatives. Go look up “Internet Trollâ€
Comment by Spudge Boy
And that is the problem. Sometimes TCDon writes things that I don't agree with, but he/she stays on topic and makes the point. Sometimes he/she even makes me re-think my point of view. I would call that a healthy debate. I like that. Its the times where facts might be a little scarce, and we veer off into neverland; that is the frustrating part.
For all bloggers - left, right, center, whatever - bring us your arguments and bring us your facts. Keep the personal attacks to a minimum and link where necessary. Maybe we will all learn something new today.
October 29th, 2007 at 7:02 pmComment by Saint Augustine — October 29, 2007 @ 6:58 pm
St.- You're right. The DEA should be all over the DOD.
Congress seems helpless. Reid and Pelosi have abdicated their reponsibilities to the American people.
October 29th, 2007 at 7:03 pmI have no intentions of apologizing for my earlier comment (#4) that unfortunately turned into troll bait. There are several forms of literary prose of which sarcasm is my favorite. Mr. Webster's bible, as paraphrased to meet the situation, defines the process of sarcasm to be a sharp and often satirical or ironic wit (I guess you could say the troll was 1/2 right) depending, for its primary effect, on bitter, caustic, and ofter ironic language that is usually directed against an individual, or group of individuals (read King George the Dumb, bushco, and their obsequious sycophantic trolls) who are perceived as less than advertised. It is always nice to enter into a battle of wits with the trolls because we are usually facing an unarmed mouth (or finger as the case may be).
October 29th, 2007 at 7:04 pmComment by StratRat — October 29, 2007 @ 7:02 pm
October 29th, 2007 at 7:04 pmStrat- Amen.
in other 'surge is working awesome!!!' news:
"Twenty decapitated bodies were found dumped near a police station on Monday west of the volatile city of Baqouba in Iraq, police said Monday."
they really get into halloween over there, i guess.
October 29th, 2007 at 7:05 pmThe reason we cannot stop feeding the trolls is that we are compassionate and don't like to see others go hungry.
October 29th, 2007 at 7:06 pmWe can believe General Petraeus when he says everything is going great and our soldiers aren't being killed. Ops US Brigadier General Jeff Dorko was attacked with a bomb. No problem we have to believe the lies until the White House gives another story. Al Qaeda doesn't have to do anything since they haven't been their since the invasion. It's been Iraq against Iraq but the Media is saying Al Qaeda. The Bush/Cheney plan in 2000 to take over all the Middle East didn't work. Now that the White House has no allies and Russia/China will protect Iran. What does a coward like Bush do yes call Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter to help with the mess. Bill and Jimmy are honest and the World Leaders will believe them as the White House is now known for who they are liars.
October 29th, 2007 at 7:14 pmOf course, we all wish the General a full recovery.
Unfortunately 3839 soldiers will never recover, and thousands more will live with their wounds forever.
68 died this month and 1100 Iraqis died this month. Twenty more were killed today. Yet, this is supposed to be progress.
I will never understand how anyone can support this war when it has been a lie, illegal, and unnecessary. We were not threatened by Iraq - not long ago, Iraq was our ally. Bush did this for power, glory and oil. He has squandered the power he had, he legacy will be something far less than glorious, and Iraqi oil must remain in Iraqi control. So what has been gained?
October 29th, 2007 at 7:16 pmI have no intentions of apologizing for my earlier comment (#4) that unfortunately turned into troll bait.
Comment by Clyde the Ripper — October 29, 2007 @ 7:04 pm
You have to be a moron or a TCDon (same thing), to not understand what you said in your post.
In my view, no apologies are necesssary.
October 29th, 2007 at 7:18 pmYou can learn things from a conservative. You won't learn sh!t from a troll.
October 29th, 2007 at 7:18 pmhow can anyone listen to wolf blitzers voice
October 29th, 2007 at 7:19 pmIt is interesting that he got out of the Green Zone. He should have just parked his Humvee and just pretended he was "hunting 'em down." I hear that strategy is saving lots of troops lives.
October 29th, 2007 at 7:19 pmOil hit a new record of $93.00 a barrel.
The turmoil in the Middle East resulting from wars,and more wars will keep the price trend going upward,specialy now the coming war between Turkey and the Kurds of Iraq.
Another war with Iran will break the camel's back....no telling how much the price per barrel will be,should that happens.
Add to that the mortgage crisis..and the national debt,the dollar price decline..then we are heading to very difficult times indeed.
The irony here that we were told before this war started in Iraq that oil prices will be down, as a result ....!!
October 29th, 2007 at 7:20 pmYou can learn things from a conservative. You won’t learn sh!t from a troll.
Comment by Spudge Boy
That's true...Trolls exist for one reason only - distraction. Most of us have no time for that.
October 29th, 2007 at 7:21 pmAnother war with Iran will break the camel’s back….no telling how much the price per barrel will be,should that happens.
Comment by tarazan
If we bomb or invade Iran, look for the price to be $200-$250 per barrel. And if the Iranians keep their oil off the market - which they probably will not do - the price will go even higher. Tough times, indeed.
October 29th, 2007 at 7:27 pmComment by texaslady — October 29, 2007 @ 6:21 pm
While it's true that the government won't allow pictures of the many caskets loaded on board cargo planes, the irony is that pictures of a casket and funeral procession have been splashed on the front pages of local newspapers when a local soldier is laid to rest. Funny that the government doesn't try to stop those.
October 29th, 2007 at 7:33 pmStrat Rat a second AMEN to you.
October 29th, 2007 at 7:34 pm#49 does it really matter conservative/troll or just someone who has a different opinion. Some we learn from, some just use fairy stories to hype their opinion. Surely this blog is above the redblogs who will not even allow a dissenting opinion.
There is a big difference between honest conservative input, comment and debate and troll ranting. A troll will use baiting tactics to change the subject. A troll will post outrageous comments either far right or left to enrage, insult and/or steer off topic. A troll will bring up right wing favorite talking points; e.g. Bill Clinton lied, Sandy Berger stold documents vital to our very survival, William Jefferson is the most corrupt, heinous, dispicable politician to ever serve and the left loves him more than anyone, Hillary will make America a socialist, abortion-loving, christian-bashing country, etc.
Feed the conservatives knowledge, insight and truth; Starve the trolls.
October 29th, 2007 at 7:35 pmAnd if the Iranians keep their oil off the market - which they probably will not do - the price will go even higher. Tough times, indeed.
Comment by StratRat — October 29, 2007 @ 7:27 pm
But the threat of taking their oil off the market would be worth an additional $25 added to the price.
October 29th, 2007 at 7:40 pm#55 I think it depends on the view of the local news, our one paper will print nothing adverse about this WH. Well, it is privately owned so I guess they don't have to be objective.
We do have a weekly alternative paper which for some reason Kay Baily Hutchinson has been sending in letters to the Editior promoting the war. Seems she would just stay in her comfort zone, she doesn't seem like the brightest lightbulb on her tv interviews.
October 29th, 2007 at 7:41 pm#57 To me when the conversation turns to trading insults without input that is a loss for everyone.
October 29th, 2007 at 7:43 pm"And if the Iranians keep their oil off the market..."
Comment by StratRat
The Iranians will not keep their oil off "the market" as that is just what bushco wants. The Iranians will do just as Sadam was attempting to do and that is to start selling their oil for Euro instead of US dollars. The US oil business, Daddy Bush et al, would be out of business, literally, if the oil market shifted from the dollar to the Euro. The invasion and occupation of Iraq was for the oil, secondarily, but primarily, to keep Sadam from trading in Euros. If bushco starts bombing Iran the second headline will be that the GPS system in the B2 failed and that is why the big bunker buster landed in an oil field instead of the nuclear bomb plant. "Sorry 'bout that , Sheik!"
October 29th, 2007 at 7:45 pmhe must've had a hell of time in school with a name like that, eh?
October 29th, 2007 at 7:45 pmComment by StratRat — October 29, 2007 @ 7:02 pm
Strat- Amen.
Comment by leftcoast — October 29, 2007 @ 7:04 pm
Yes, a third Amen, Strat.
October 29th, 2007 at 7:51 pmJust goes to show you what "less violence" actually means! Yeah - were were his Blackwater guards hiding?? You know - the ones that we're paying three times more than they're worth?
October 29th, 2007 at 7:52 pmAmen to all four corners~!
October 29th, 2007 at 7:53 pmQuad Amen! Later TP buddies! Amen-Amen.
October 29th, 2007 at 7:53 pmI’m sure the reich-wingers will claim this proof that the surge is working (Tm) and that we are “winning†in Iraq.
Comment by Dr. Matt — October 29, 2007 @ 6:12 pm
They certainly have tried. Prior to the surge, Brit Hume said that if casualties go up after the surge is complete, it won't necessarily mean that it was a failure; it's just natural to expect more deaths since more people are there.
October 29th, 2007 at 7:56 pmComment by Veritas — October 29, 2007 @ 7:52 pm
October 29th, 2007 at 7:56 pmVeritas- we now need PMC's from Britain to guard our own troops. The Pentagon cannot even secure our own troops without using mercenaries. This is sad.
Sorry, NOT a “trollâ€, Texas lady, a PAID DoD military PSYOPS here to LIE and obfuscate the TRUTH.
http://www.iwar.org.uk/iwar/
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — October 29, 2007 @ 6:30 pm
I think I know the answer to this question, but do you have any way to prove TCDon or anyone else is a paid government psyops person?
I mean really, why would they bother? I know some right wing organization named TP the 10th most dangerous group in America, but that just made THEM look dumb. How dangerous can a political chat room be? There are a couple dozen regular posters, probably a couple hundred total folks that even belong (though I could be wrong about that, does TP ever publish its membership numbers?), how dangerous could your emails really be? It just seems a little paranoid.
October 29th, 2007 at 7:57 pmComment by Dr. Matt — October 29, 2007 @ 6:12 pm
And another thing. Did you ever notice that...
A one or two month decline in deaths = "we are winning."
A one or two month increase in deaths = "give us 6 more months to show progress."
October 29th, 2007 at 7:58 pmI think I know the answer to this question, but do you have any way to prove TCDon or anyone else is a paid government psyops person?
Nope, but I KNOW that the Pentagon/DoD declared that the Internet is an ENEMY because the TRUTH survives, and they don't LIKE it...
http://www.iwar.org.uk/iwar/
Have you READ any of the documents declassified by the DoD?
I mean really, why would they bother?
Because it is their JOB to obfuscate the TRUTH on the blogs, maybe? THAT is what the DoD documents SAY. Have you READ them?
If YOU are the SAME as Keltoi, then YOU are one of them...
October 29th, 2007 at 8:04 pmGo look up the meaning of Internet Troll and then you wouldn't be asking me this. A conservative has a different point of view. A troll doesn't give a flying crap about your opinion, nor do they want you to see things from their point of view. I am sorry if you are new to this whole thing, but I am not.
The terms troll and conservative ARE NOT interchangeable. One is most likely a republican, the other is an a$$hole.
October 29th, 2007 at 8:37 pm#71 ok now it is getting weird.....no one can obfuscate the truth unless you let them. It is mine and your job to decide for ourselves what we want to believe. So when I disagree with you, does that make me "ONE OF THEM?"
October 29th, 2007 at 8:40 pm>>Have you READ any of the documents declassified by the DoD?
I glanced at the site but didn't go real deep. Ironically, it didn't seem real user friendly...
Because it is their JOB to obfuscate the TRUTH on the blogs, maybe? THAT is what the DoD documents SAY. Have you READ them?
If YOU are the SAME as Keltoi, then YOU are one of them…
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — October 29, 2007 @ 8:04 pm
I am Keltoi, this is my home address.
And my God, man, I am not a government psy-ops person! C'mon! I love politics, I love debate, this site is fun, I think you guys are cool, I have no desire to stifle you, quite the reverse.
I am one of them....that is cute. One of THEM.
October 29th, 2007 at 8:41 pm#72 I have probably been using the internet longer than many here and it just doesn't matter to me the name that you and troll buster use for those who disagree. I disagree with your point and that is my right just as you have a right to disagree with me.
So lets agree to disagree.
October 29th, 2007 at 8:43 pmOne more thing, I still find it annoying to be reminded every 3rd post that "a troll is on the blog". If the troll bothers you, don't answer them. As long as they are on the issue, and I want to answer or ask them something, I will. And now, we are all OFF the issue so guess that makes us TROLLS ! (well it is Holloween, almost)
October 29th, 2007 at 8:48 pmI'll bet he shoke it off like a brig gen would then privately said "WTF"
"the soldier boy for his soldier's pay obeys..."
October 29th, 2007 at 8:50 pmBest wishes General. Thank you for all you have done for our Country.
Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 9:15 pm
I'll thank him when he defends the country against its real enemy: Bushco. Your thanks is empty bullshit, since you have no idea what he's done "for our country".
October 29th, 2007 at 9:18 pmI am Keltoi, this is my home address.
And my God, man, I am not a government psy-ops person! C’mon! I love politics, I love debate, this site is fun, I think you guys are cool, I have no desire to stifle you, quite the reverse.
I am one of them….that is cute. One of THEM.
Comment by Keltoi at Night — October 29, 2007 @ 8:41 pm
Actually just such a program was disclosed from the Pentagon a few months ago, or did you sleep through that as well? Their 'goal' was to spread the good news about Iraq through blogging! Then we have the GOP worker that was tracked down during the last campaign blogging as an 'independent' to try to influence elections.
Sorry, but TP is one of the most popular blogs on the internet, and if you don't believe that wingnuts in YOUR PARTY wouldn't do that - well then I will just have to assume you're one of them. It would explain the constant stupidity of your posts and claims!
October 29th, 2007 at 9:22 pmBest wishes General. Thank you for all you have done for our Country. Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 9:15 pm
What about what he's done to help destroy the armed forces by being a 'good soldier', should we wish him well for that as well?
October 29th, 2007 at 9:22 pmUS Soldier deaths are going down because the military isn't sending them out on the roads as much any more. They are now sending up planes to bomb the shit out of any site where they think a "terrorist" may be, to hell with the fact that there are innocent men women and children in the same place. US deaths have gone down, Iraqi deaths have gone up. Good news, wouldn't you say?
October 29th, 2007 at 9:25 pmBest wishes General. Thank you for all you have done for our Country.
Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 9:15 pm
Unfortunately, even though this general may have all the best intentions, what we have done in Iraq is extremely costly to the US and our war against terrorism. It is EXTREMELY counterproductive. It is destroying our Army, Marines, Reserves, National Guard, costing taxpayers $2 Trillion, and making us a hell of a lot less secure by opening up Iraq to our enemies---giving them a huge training ground and recruiting tool. Iran's influence has been greatly boosted. Also al Qaeda's. The entire Middle East has been destabilized.
October 29th, 2007 at 9:25 pmhttp://www.blackanthem.com/ News/ Military_News_1/ Dorko_takes_command_of_Gulf_Region_Division10640.shtml
Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 9:27 pm
Dorko, well at least the name is appropriate!
Tell me, is that all of the 'completed' projects that when the GAO went and looked at were in fact NOT completed? But were in fact just reported as such?
Well DORKO, I'm not surprised you'd defend DORKO!
October 29th, 2007 at 9:30 pmEven if the surge was working, it is beside the point because we cannot keep it up for very long. We don't have the personnel, the equipment, nor the money now--much less for another ten years.
What's going to happen in December 2008 if the Iraqis very likely order the US out and make oil deals with Iran, Russia, and China?
October 29th, 2007 at 9:30 pmHey TCDon, with your attack on ELF on the previous thread (a VANDALISM, not TERRORISM group as you claim), you forgot the MOST LIKELY terrorists that would attack the Hollywood Elite. YOU WINGNUT RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS!
October 29th, 2007 at 9:31 pmSo TCDon, would it be THESE PROJECTS he oversaw? The CRUMBLING ones? It sure is nice to have GOOD OLD BOYS in the government to get those fat contracts (known as corporate welfare) a half a world away so most people can't see that your HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS (well TWO TRILLION) dollars have been wasted - ey?
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/29/world/middleeast/29reconstruct.html?_r=3&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
October 29th, 2007 at 9:32 pmComment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 9:26 pm
By all measurements, the Iraqis were far far better off before our illegal invasion and occupation---water, sewage, healthcare, electricity, transport, infrastructure, etc., etc.
It is officially the #2 failed state in the world. One in eight children die before the age of five. One million have died violently. I would think the figure of 4.5 million refugees would tell you something.
When asked, the Iraqis say they were far better off before we came in and want us out ASAP. The majority agree with attacks on our troops. You probably would too if you put yourself in their shoes.
October 29th, 2007 at 9:36 pmTCDon,
My apologies to you. My sources have informed me that you have passed the bar exam. I misunderstood and I thought they said you had passed a bar. Judging (pun intended) from your staggering comments I would submit that you haven't passed very many bars. And that, my friend, is sarcasm!
October 29th, 2007 at 9:39 pmLawyer types don't have time to sit and comment on a blog, as much as a certain type who might claim to be a lawyer.
October 29th, 2007 at 9:40 pmSo RHF. Spell it out. Are you glad the General was injured?
Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 9:37 pm
Who is more to blame for his injury: those who were in favor of the invasion and occupation or the progressives (like me and RHF) who were opposed to them?
October 29th, 2007 at 9:44 pmWhat kinds of drugs do you think RHF is on?
Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 9:43 pm
Truth serum?
October 29th, 2007 at 9:45 pmSo TCDon. Spell it out. Are you glad the General was injured? Because this is the result of the invasion and occupation which you apparently wanted.
October 29th, 2007 at 9:48 pmNo, Keith, I am not glad that the General or any other American Soldier was injured. Can RHF say the same?
Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 9:51 pm
This is sort of stupid don't you think. Are you suggesting their are individuals who do not value the lives of others?
October 29th, 2007 at 9:53 pmYou fish with poor bait!
Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 9:51 pm
Why is it that pro-war people always ascribe bad motives to people who advocate peace?
October 29th, 2007 at 9:55 pmTCDon, you are the one who backed the illegal invasion and endless occupation into a region where there was peace and then are suprised when one of our soldiers gets injured.
October 29th, 2007 at 9:58 pmTCDon,
I have only had one glass of wine in the last ten years. If my glass and your two bottles were to meet an untimely end we would both be in trouble. What any one thinks about an injury or death of one of our military is of little or no consequence. What is important is why they were injured or killed in the first place. I will guarantee that if General Dorko and all the other casualties of American troops, killed and wounded, were in the living room of their houses in the CONUS at the time watching Chef Ramsey kill the cockroaches they would not have been a statistic of the Iraq oil war. The cockroaches, you included if you support this "war," commonly but not affectionately known as "bushco" are the entities guilty of assault and/or murder in the death or injury of our troops. That is not sarcasm, that is a non-refutable fact.
October 29th, 2007 at 10:07 pmThere was peace in Iraq in March 2003. Also reports that Saddam would have left with $1 billion and guarantee of security.
October 29th, 2007 at 10:07 pmTCDon, It is pronounced dbadass just like it is spelled. To be taken seriously, you might consider a smaller more discriminating brush
October 29th, 2007 at 10:08 pmSo far, there have been more than 4,694 planned projects, 4,112 completions and 582 started projects.
Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 9:26 pm
So you're saying that almost 90% of the projects have been completed?
Hmmm. Is that why Baghdad has only two to three hours of electricity a day and it was reported that 60 to 80 percent of Iraqis don't have safe drinking water which caused a recent outbreak of CHOLERA? Maybe the Iraqis haven't heard the news. Don't you do any trolling in Iraq?
Like I said in a previous post: TCDon couldn't fool a grade school child!
October 29th, 2007 at 10:29 pmPoor guy. First his name is Dorko and now he gets hit with a bomb. :(
October 29th, 2007 at 11:19 pm>My sources have informed me that you have passed the bar exam.
hahahaha. man, i seriously doubt that. TamponDon has shown zero reasoning skills, merely rehashing old right wing talking points over and over, and citing sources like that "opinion journal" thing which admit his allegations about Berger taking originals are merely speculation at best.
October 30th, 2007 at 7:26 amif he'd passed the bar in just about any state he'd know trying to present a case where your evidence consists solely of speculation will get you absolutely nowhere..
#5 Did they mock him by wearing a purple heart band aid?
More seriously though I hope the general and all the troops who get injured recover with no side effects. In modern war this is a rare occurance for a general to be wounded. Does anyone know if there have been any other US generals wounded since WWII? I can only think of General Rose in WWII, beyond that I am drawing a blank.
October 30th, 2007 at 8:11 amYou can already see how the trolls operate. Maybe half the comments are now about them rather than the subject. That is their goal.
As to so-called "security firms", they used to be called "private military companies" which was bad enough.
Why are fascist mercenary thugs used to protect American troops, including a general? Presumably that is a military duty.
How many of the mercenaries in this firm are South African, Chilean, Serbian, etc. former torturers and murderers in their countries?
October 30th, 2007 at 9:03 amMan, the terrorists don't get it. Don't they know what happened to Moveon.org for simply questioning a general? You DO NOT go off and light off a bomb under a general's ass under any account. Sheesh.
October 30th, 2007 at 1:34 pm#6 "Lefty Patriot" ??????? There is no such thing as a left leaning 'patriot', it's a contradiction of terms!
By the way, "Lefty", I served 32 years. How many did you serve?
#4 "Jack the Ripper', right, that really tells it all!
October 30th, 2007 at 7:34 pm