GOP candidates agree to CNN/YouTube debate.
By on Oct 29th, 2007 at 2:23 pm
GOP candidates agree to CNN/YouTube debate.
CNN today announced that the eight major GOP presidential candidates have agreed to participate in its YouTube debate on Nov. 28. Earlier, Mitt Romney mocked the democratic nature of the forum, stating, “I think the presidency ought to be held at a higher level than having to answer questions from a snowman,” referring to a citizen dressed as a snowman who submitted a question about global warming in the July Democratic debate.
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Hmmm — what changed their minds?
October 29th, 2007 at 2:28 pmI loved that Snowman….
There is a Sting lyric about politicians all seeming like game show
October 29th, 2007 at 2:29 pmhosts. The YouTube debate had a distinctly game show flavor to it.
Not necessarily a bad thing, it seems about right given the state of
our politics.
Yo Mitt, wear your secret underwear on your head. That’ll show the Snowman who’s boss.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:30 pmWow. The Repukelickins are *deigning* to speak to the hoi polloi….?
Whoopty-freaking-do.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:30 pmI wholeheartedly concur with the Mitten. It is not fair to be able to ask questions if you are a minority. It is really not fair to ask questions at all. Questions imply no foreknowledge. What will happen hardly has anything to do with either a debate, or questions.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:31 pmIt is a show. “shows” have dialogue, choreography, sets, and everyone knows how they end before they begin.
How about the fact that the YouTube debate made a mockery of a process that’s becoming more ‘mock-ridden’ by the day. Why bother trying to keep any decorum in this?
October 29th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
And how can you whine about the Repubs not wanting to take part in a YouTube debate when the Dem’s run like little girls from Fox?
October 29th, 2007 at 2:38 pm#7: And how can you whine about the Repubs not wanting to take part in a YouTube debate when the Dem’s run like little girls from Fox? – - I agree the Dems should debate even on Fox. But the difference is that YouTube is not a stacked, right-leaning deck, Like Fox News.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:40 pmAnd how can you whine about the Repubs not wanting to take part in a YouTube debate when the Dem’s run like little girls from Fox?
Comment by DaleW — October 29, 2007 @ 2:38 pm
Pipe down stooge troll.
We all know Fox is a Republican Proaganda network.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:40 pmWithout Alan Keyes, just how valid is any Republican debate?
October 29th, 2007 at 2:42 pm#12: Without Alan Keyes, just how valid is any Republican debate? – - Or entertaining.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:43 pm#5 is incoherent.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:43 pmOhh…. I do miss me some Alan Keyes.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:45 pmhey FLIP romney, if you cant answer a question from a snowman, how you gonna get osama?
oh yeah, about osama, looks like we let him go again just a few weeks ago….
another bushco fiasco!
October 29th, 2007 at 2:48 pmOf course Mitt would rather take softballs lobbed by a strawman than hardballs thrown by a snowman. I mean, who wouldn’t?
October 29th, 2007 at 2:49 pm#5 is delightfully sardonic and is riffing on Pretty Mitty’s dumbness/racist tendencies/arrogance.
Get it…? I did – and I enjoyed it, too. ;o)
October 29th, 2007 at 2:50 pmAnd how can you whine about the Repubs not wanting to take part in a YouTube debate when the Dem’s run like little girls from Fox?
Comment by DaleW — October 29, 2007 @ 2:38 pm
1) Fox News has repeatedly made a practice of promoting conservative causes and discrediting progressive ones. No candidate is going to waste their time going into an environment where what they say is going to be spun like twine until it’s no longer recognizable.
2) YouTube has yet to distiguish itself as a medium moderated and controlled by a person or group with a partisan agenda, as Fox News has.
3) I deeply resent your equating cowardice with femininity. As a woman, I see that as an unfair stereotype. Think about the women in your life, both big and small. Are they weak? Are they cowardly? Do they run from challenges?
October 29th, 2007 at 2:50 pm22 – Yeah, Missmolly – let’s beat the crap out of him, shall we?
October 29th, 2007 at 2:52 pmPlease do not feed the three trolls on this thread, michael, Keltoi and DaleW. All serial trolls, the mission remains the same, only the names change.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:55 pmEarlier, Mitt Romney mocked the democratic nature of the forum, stating, “I think the presidency ought to be held at a higher level than having to answer questions from a snowman,†referring to a citizen dressed as a snowman who submitted a question about global warming in the July Democratic debate.
I wonder how Mitt would feel about talking a question from someone in an orange jumpsuit with a black hood on his head…
October 29th, 2007 at 2:57 pm22 – Yeah, Missmolly – let’s beat the crap out of him, shall we?
Comment by Leftside Annie — October 29, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
Yep it will only take one of us. Who wants to kick his ass?
October 29th, 2007 at 2:58 pmNo, YouTube has consistently shown a left-leaning bias.
How sad when you go through life just looking for reasons to be offended.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:59 pmIf you want to make the trolls go away, everyone pick the most trolling, and disruptive and abusive post(s) they make, and report it as abuse. TP will do the rest.
Comment by republicans hate facts — October 29, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
Can’t we just report all of them that don’t pertain to the thread and if they do pertain to the thread contain a bald faced lie. That should leave less than 1% unreported.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:00 pmWeren’t you suppose to point me to the verse in the Geneva Convention that prohibited us from invading Iraq?
Not the Geneva Convention, fool. The UN Charter, which the US signed and ratified making it the law of the land.
Excerpts from Article 2:
1. The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members.
3. All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered.
4. All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.
Then there’s Article 33:
1. The parties to any dispute, the continuance of which is likely to endanger the maintenance of international peace and security, shall, first of all, seek a solution by negotiation, enquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, resort to regional agencies or arrangements, or other peaceful means of their own choice.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:01 pmI wonder how Mitt would feel about talking a question from someone in an orange jumpsuit with a black hood on his head…
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — October 29, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
Huh?
October 29th, 2007 at 3:01 pmBring it cupcake.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:01 pmAnd so it would be a great chance for the dems to appear on Fox to prove their point! Unless of course, they’re too scared?
Comment by michael — October 29, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
Why prove it…. if its obvious?
When Repuiblicans submit to a debate at Air America, then Democrats can go on FOX.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:02 pmShouldn’t we really ask Mitt if all five of his children actually have the same mother. Because I watch “Big Love” and it seems unlikely.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:02 pmYes, and immediately have it yanked down by YouTube mgmt. YT consistently airs videos of AQ snipers killing our troops and innocent civilians, but just as consistently will pull videos from conservative columnists and bloggers.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:06 pmRepublicans on Air America…?
Oooooh, I’d pay money to see — er, hear — that!!
Nah. They’re too chickensh*t for that.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:07 pmBring it cupcake.
Comment by DaleW — October 29, 2007 @ 3:01 pm
You know the last time W said “Bring it on!” the insurgents did. Are you rethugs unable to learn from your mistakes? Silly question on my par I know. Which one of the cupcakes were you talking to fruitcake? And would you actually leave your mother’s basement for this confrontation to take place?
October 29th, 2007 at 3:07 pmYes, and immediately have it yanked down by YouTube mgmt. YT consistently airs videos of AQ snipers killing our troops and innocent civilians, but just as consistently will pull videos from conservative columnists and bloggers.
Comment by DaleW — October 29, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
Proof? I didn’t think so.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:08 pmDaleW sez:
As Steven Colbert so perceptively noted, reality has a well-known liberal bias.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:09 pmWhatsamatter Shayne, can’t even remember what you posted? I was talking to you, ya idiot.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:09 pmPlease do not feed the three trolls on this thread, michael, Keltoi and DaleW. All serial trolls, the mission remains the same, only the names change.
Comment by Shayne — October 29, 2007 @ 2:55 pm
My “mission”, Shayne, is to enjoy a civil debate with other Americans who have different political views than my own. That is it. Why that should be a problem for you I do not understand.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:12 pmFor those here who are curious about just how much our unprovoked invasion and subsequent occupation of a sovereign nation runs counter to international law, here’s a good resource.
Reduced to splitting hairs, michael? Can’t say I’m surprised.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:13 pmComment by Shayne — October 29, 2007 @ 3:01 pm
What’s the confusion here, Shayne?
October 29th, 2007 at 3:15 pmWhatsamatter Shayne, can’t even remember what you posted? I was talking to you, ya idiot.
Comment by DaleW — October 29, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
I saw three women post the same thing. Can’t you remember back 10 posts? If you think any of us are afraid of you, you don’t know much about progressive women. We’re not the ones hiding in mom’s basement crying the terrorists are coming the terrorists are coming.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:18 pmI wonder what Ann Coulter would say?
Comment by michaelle — October 29, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
ummm, don’t take my picture while I enjoy this nice meal at a known gay restaurant?
October 29th, 2007 at 3:19 pmWhat’s the confusion here, Shayne?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — October 29, 2007 @ 3:15 pm
Who wears the orange jumpsuits with black hoods?
October 29th, 2007 at 3:19 pmIt’s simple! They can’t respond intelligently! They resort to insults and name calling like a bunch of little babies!
Comment by michael — October 29, 2007 @ 3:15 pm
Who is they?
October 29th, 2007 at 3:20 pmmichael sez:
I’m sure you do. I don’t.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:20 pmIs CNN/Youtube letting Alan Keyes appear? The state republican parties have been trying to keep him out of the debates, even though he is a registered candidate and in the latest Des Moines Register poll Keyes placed ahead of Duncan Hunter. And when was the last time you heard a TV news story about GOP Candidate Alan Keyes?
October 29th, 2007 at 3:21 pmIt’s simple! They can’t respond intelligently! They resort to insults and name calling like a bunch of little babies!
Comment by michael — October 29, 2007 @ 3:15 pm
What do you have against babies? And how can you be against abortion and against babies? Do you practice an abstinence only program?
October 29th, 2007 at 3:21 pmShayne sez:
The person on YouTube asking the question…much as a person on YouTube dressed as a snowman.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:21 pmAnd when was the last time you heard a TV news story about GOP Candidate Alan Keyes?
Comment by gulfwargrunt — October 29, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
Alan Keyes is running……?
October 29th, 2007 at 3:22 pmI wonder what Ann Coulter would say?
Comment by michael — October 29, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
How dumb does somebody have to be to idolize Ann Coulter? Do you know your IQ michael? We could use it as a reference point.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:22 pmThe person on YouTube asking the question…much as a person on YouTube dressed as a snowman.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — October 29, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
Sorry I was confused TMM, too much troll dung deprives the brain of oxygen.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:24 pmWell, here’s your chance to show us how smart you liberals are. Let’s get to work and come up with some intelligent questions?
Comment by michael — October 29, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
Can you imagine michael “The Brat” answering an intelligent question? I can’t.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:26 pmCan you imagine michael “The Brat†answering an intelligent question? I can’t.
Comment by foreyes — October 29, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
Can’t even imagine him asking an intelligent question.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:28 pmI’m still trying to imagine him using correct punctuation.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:29 pmAin’t happened yet!!!
foreyes sez:
He couldn’t change the subject fast enough after I posted that link regarding the illegality of the Iraq invasion & occupation up in post #52. ^_^
October 29th, 2007 at 3:30 pmstupid little men don’t realize that more than one international law can be broken at the same time!!!! Poor little ‘tard!
Comment by republicans hate facts — October 29, 2007 @ 2:54 pm
You’re so right rhf. Waging a war of aggression was specifically condemned by the Neuremberg Tribunal which was presided by an American judge.
A lot of Nazis were hung for starting such a war.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:34 pmmichael sez:
Textbook. Attack the source, since you can’t dispute the content.
Pathetic.
(BTW, perhaps you ought to learn the difference between “it’s” and “its” before you admonish me to “do my homework”. ^_^ )
October 29th, 2007 at 3:36 pmGreat! Does that mean you won’t attack any sources brought up by the conservative readers on TP? And you’ll quit attacking the poster, and concentrate on the subject matter?
October 29th, 2007 at 3:41 pmWhy did it take kerry over 5 years to get his Honorable Discharge?
Comment by michael
Do you see? More distraction. The more we feed the trolls, the more off topic we get. Ignore them…They bait you with easy to refute assertions. You think you are enlightening them, you are not. They know the truth and they don’t like it. Their king is a moron. Their VP can’t stay awake to save his life. Their St Patreous has his own PR Colonel sending wierd emails to Glenn Greenwald. Rumsfeld has been chased out of France by a subpeona, etc…History is judging them for what they are: LOSERS! In a few weeks they could hold their entire convention in a phone booth – with room to spare. Treat them as the scum they are.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:42 pmI wonder what Ann Coulter would say?
Comment by michael — October 29, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
Leave the mentally challenged like Mann Coulter out of this!
October 29th, 2007 at 3:43 pmmichael sez:
Whichever you feel up to disputing, junior.
“Cornered”??? You must be joking.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:46 pmComment by michael — October 29, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
If anyone had any doubts about michael’s insanity, this should clear everything up.
HE ACTUALLY READS MANN COULTER’S BOOKS!
October 29th, 2007 at 3:48 pmDaleW sez:
Pointing out the falsehoods in your propaganda outlets is not an “attack”, TCDon, although I’m sure it feels that way to you.
Again, pointing out your lies does not constitute an attack, your bruised ego notwithstanding.
October 29th, 2007 at 3:49 pm#67 – ” can understand why the Dems would want to be on Fox with its high ratings, but why would Reputlicans want to be on Air America with its incredibly low ratings?” Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 3:23 pm
Hmmm. I wonder why Air America has been adding affiliates to their line-up recently? Could it be that they’re at their “young-un” stage, and still growing into their audience? (Naw, that would be a “fair and balanced” look at the situation, something right-whinres refuse to do!)
Does anyone remember Rush Limbaugh’s first attempt at a TV talk show? His audience wasn’t as “screened” as his radio show, and he got bawled-out by a grandmother for being so insensitive and vituperate! After the very first commercial break, his audience was gone! He just couldn’t accept opinions other than his own! That’s about the ONLY thing that has never changed about Mr. Limbaugh! His screeners refuse to let liberals onto his show!
Now Rush has been on his radio show for something likw 15 years. He’s had a very long time to get the sheeple to listen to him.
It’s going to a while for these people to exercise their brain and stop saying “ditto” when Rush says “Speak!”
October 29th, 2007 at 3:54 pmWhy did it take kerry over 5 years to get his Honorable Discharge?
Comment by michael — October 29, 2007 @ 3:29 pm
#
For the same reason it takes two years to get disability paperwork through, or 2 years to get a copy of your DD-214, or even longer to get a fiche copy of your OMPF. Don’t get me started on how slow government paperwork is, I’ve been fighting this fight for the last 3 years, since I came home from Iraq with 60% disability.
I do have an “intelligent You-Tube Republican question”, though.
How are our troops in Iraq protecting the Iraqi people and preventing the genocide that many say will occur if we leave? For instance, if a group of soldiers witness a group of Iraqis attack another group of Iraqis, what is their response? The various militias of Iraq do not wear uniforms, and although they do wave flags, most US soldiers cannot read Arabic. So do we jump in and defend one group, or the other?
October 29th, 2007 at 3:54 pmTime for a lunch break! Maybe by the time I get back you will have come up with an answer on why it took kerry over 5 years to get his Honorable Discharge?
Comment by michael — October 29, 2007 @ 3:44 pm
Michael “The Brat” wants to change the subject again. Don’t let him!
October 29th, 2007 at 3:55 pmHeh. At least Kerry actually SERVED – which is far, far more than anyone can say for Chimpy.
October 29th, 2007 at 4:01 pmHe couldn’t change the subject fast enough after I posted that link regarding the illegality of the Iraq invasion & occupation up in post #52. ^_^
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — October 29, 2007 @ 3:30 pm
I think he said something about Stalin being in the Board of Directors of Global Policy Forum, or maybe that he was a founding member.
Anyway, what he said is not importat, as usual.
October 29th, 2007 at 4:02 pmTypical liberal response when cornered!
Comment by michael — October 29, 2007 @ 3:44 pm
You couldn’t corner a pupppy if your life depended on it!
October 29th, 2007 at 4:03 pmI do have an “intelligent You-Tube Republican questionâ€, though.
How are our troops in Iraq protecting the Iraqi people and preventing the genocide that many say will occur if we leave? For instance, if a group of soldiers witness a group of Iraqis attack another group of Iraqis, what is their response? The various militias of Iraq do not wear uniforms, and although they do wave flags, most US soldiers cannot read Arabic. So do we jump in and defend one group, or the other?
Comment by Chris L — October 29, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
Chris L, thank you for your service to this country.
Your question can only come from someone who has actual experience on the ground in Iraq. I hope somebody who will be asking the questions reads your post and uses it in the debate. It deserves to be asked.
October 29th, 2007 at 4:10 pmUm … what’s the topic of this thread? Ann Coulter’s books? John Kerry’s discharge papers?
October 29th, 2007 at 4:11 pmUm … what’s the topic of this thread? Ann Coulter’s books? John Kerry’s discharge papers?
Comment by missmolly — October 29, 2007 @ 4:11 pm
Sometimes, I do wonder as I read through comments. What the hell was this about? Oh, yeah, the trolls have been working on derailroad.
October 29th, 2007 at 4:17 pmUm … what’s the topic of this thread? Ann Coulter’s books? John Kerry’s discharge papers?
Comment by missmolly — October 29, 2007 @ 4:11 pm
You’re right missmolly. Still, some of us are just having some fun beating on michael the troll. A Republican debate sure isn’t that interesting now, is it?
October 29th, 2007 at 4:18 pmYou’re right missmolly. Still, some of us are just having some fun beating on michael the troll. A Republican debate sure isn’t that interesting now, is it?
Comment by foreyes — October 29, 2007 @ 4:18 pm
You have a point. Playing with the trolls is usually more fun than discussing a Republican debate. And trying to keep them on topic — ANY topic is like nailing jell-o to a tree. As soon as you rebut one point, they bring in another as a distraction.
Now I understand all the troll droppings in here.
October 29th, 2007 at 4:22 pm#90, Chris L, thanks for serving!
October 29th, 2007 at 4:23 pm#105, I don’t know who you’re confusing me with. As a matter of fact, I served 5 years in the USAF in the early-mid 80’s.
October 29th, 2007 at 4:28 pmI read a great many posts from trolls and other conservative posters here. But I’m still unclear on what candidate they like for president. They spend a lot of time bashing Hillary Clinton (I guess they assume she’s getting the nomination because they don’t spend nearly as much energy on Obama, Edwards, or anyone else in the Dem field). But who do they hold up as an ideal GOP candidate?
Giuliani? The guy whose entire message is “9/11″? And who wants to stay the course in Iraq?
Romney? The guy who flipflopped on abortion and other social issues to pander to the GOP base? And who wants to stay the course in Iraq?
Thompson? The guy who’s about as exciting as a bowl of oatmeal? And who wants to stay the course in Iraq?
McCain? The guy who wants to send more troops to Iraq?
Maybe I should tune in to the debate next month. Perhaps I will finally understand why the GOP is bound and determined to nominate somebody who’s on the opposite side of the issue Americans care about the most.
October 29th, 2007 at 4:30 pmRepublicans don’t like snowmen. They only like strawmen who can’t fight back.
October 29th, 2007 at 4:37 pmMaybe I should tune in to the debate next month. Perhaps I will finally understand why the GOP is bound and determined to nominate somebody who’s on the opposite side of the issue Americans care about the most.
Comment by missmolly — October 29, 2007 @ 4:30 pm
You forgot Huckabee! He had a bounce! Statistically in a dead-heat with Rudy and Fred — and this is from the Washington Times, so you know it must be true.
http://tinyurl.com/2ktu6z
October 29th, 2007 at 4:37 pmWhat’s your problem Mitt – that’s an American citizen in that snowman suit – so yes, you do have to take questions from them.
October 29th, 2007 at 4:43 pmAs for me, I won’t be able to watch the Republican debate.
I’ve scheduled a viewing of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (Disney,1937) and I wouldn’t miss it for the world.
October 29th, 2007 at 4:49 pmI read a great many posts from trolls and other conservative posters here. But I’m still unclear on what candidate they like for president.
Comment by missmolly — October 29, 2007 @ 4:30
There is a reason for that, it is a pretty weak field. This election is shaping up as another lesser of two evils fest.
Of all the Rs, I probably like McCain the best. I feel like he is the most authentic of them all, but that isn’t saying much. I also cannot help but feel impressed by the courage and heroism he displayed as a POW.
October 29th, 2007 at 5:09 pmOf all the Rs, I probably like McCain the best. I feel like he is the most authentic of them all, but that isn’t saying much. I also cannot help but feel impressed by the courage and heroism he displayed as a POW.
Comment by Keltoi — October 29, 2007 @ 5:09 pm
I agree with you about McCain’s Vietnam experience. He’s the only Republican who has any idea what torture really is, and while all the other candidates are competing to see who would be the toughest on prisoners, McCain is saying “torture doesn’t work, and it doesn’t speak well of what America stands for.” I think he’s also the only candidate who has a record of fighting the obscene costs of campaigns and how our current system favors special interest groups with tons of money.
I just don’t agree with him on Iraq. And for me, that’s a deal-breaker.
October 29th, 2007 at 6:00 pmMcCain has defended bush’s torture policy too often to be considered anything but a deluded old man. His “srvic’ consisted of dropping weapons of mass destruction on unsuspecting villagers who had done nothing to him, so perhaps this hero worship should be mitigated, especially in the face of his complete capitulation to the Bush/Rove filth they used to reduce McCain to a sobbing embarrassment.
October 29th, 2007 at 6:20 pmCan we all agree on something? Anyone who comes on to a liberal blog and begins with “I just read Ann Coulter’s book and boy is it great!” is simply here to provoke and irritate. There’s no need to engage someone like that. There’s no cogent argument to refute or agree with. Just a brat trying to be annoying.
October 29th, 2007 at 7:06 pmMcCain is a wreck. He makes a correct public statement that waterboarding is and always has been torture, but he can’t bring himself to not support an AG nominee who will not call waterboarding torture. Straight talk???!!! Yeah, riiiiiggggghhht.
October 29th, 2007 at 7:11 pmRomney is a snowman. The other guy was just dressed as one.
October 30th, 2007 at 12:11 amMichael, here are some intelligent questions for you. Do standardized tests actually contribute to the quality of the schools or do they force teachers to start teaching to the test? What do you say about schools having to water down subjects like science and social studies because of the pressure these tests generate? What are your solutions to fix the public schools instead of demonizing them like you conservatives always do?
October 30th, 2007 at 2:53 am#118 – “Kerry got his in 1978 after Carter’s amnesty program!” Comment by michael — October 29, 2007 @ 11:31 pm
And your proof for this wild assertion grounded in mendacity?
October 30th, 2007 at 8:07 am