Comments on: Karzai To Bush: ‘Roll Back’ The Use Of Airstrikes In Afghanistan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:36:49 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/comment-page-1/#comment-4138247 Chocolate Jesus Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:38:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/#comment-4138247 increased use of airstrikes as a substitute for boots on the ground is another way to deflate the number of america troop deaths, which will undoubtedly be touted as a sign of progress increased use of airstrikes as a substitute for boots on the ground is another way to deflate the number of america troop deaths, which will undoubtedly be touted as a sign of progress

]]> By: old_hack http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/comment-page-1/#comment-4138007 old_hack Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:27:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/#comment-4138007 you mean we're actually keeping count of how many civilians we kill there?. thats odd... you mean we’re actually keeping count of how many civilians we kill there?. thats odd…

]]> By: PoliticalOrphan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/comment-page-1/#comment-4137930 PoliticalOrphan Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:03:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/#comment-4137930 So then, just to verify: We are now using the term "local hostility" in place of "civilian casualties"? Just checking...because that's really what's important here, in case anyone in charge of this whole GWOT nighmare still gives - or EVER gave - a rat's ass. So then, just to verify: We are now using the term “local hostility” in place of “civilian casualties”? Just checking…because that’s really what’s important here, in case anyone in charge of this whole GWOT nighmare still gives – or EVER gave – a rat’s ass.

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/comment-page-1/#comment-4137866 bilbobaggins Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:20:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/#comment-4137866 I'm trying not to respond to stinky Trolls like don, but this one I had to address: <em>I was responding to a heavily anti-semitic post from a “progressive.” The post to which I was responding used to be #16. Now it is gone. Comment by TCDon</em> I don't know what the "heavily anti-semitic" post said, but my guess is that it wasn't posted by a progressive, but by one of don's ilk who are here trying to make the progressives look extreme. It's their new modus operandi. They can't debate us and we are getting pretty good at ignoring the stinky Trolls, so they send people to liberal blogs to say something outrageous that will then end up on O'Lielly as an example of the "far left". It looks like TP is on to the ploy though. It was rather serendipitous that the trolls post ended up in the same place, though. I’m trying not to respond to stinky Trolls like don, but this one I had to address:

I was responding to a heavily anti-semitic post from a “progressive.” The post to which I was responding used to be #16. Now it is gone.
Comment by TCDon

I don’t know what the “heavily anti-semitic” post said, but my guess is that it wasn’t posted by a progressive, but by one of don’s ilk who are here trying to make the progressives look extreme. It’s their new modus operandi. They can’t debate us and we are getting pretty good at ignoring the stinky Trolls, so they send people to liberal blogs to say something outrageous that will then end up on O’Lielly as an example of the “far left”. It looks like TP is on to the ploy though. It was rather serendipitous that the trolls post ended up in the same place, though.

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/comment-page-1/#comment-4137865 bilbobaggins Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:13:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/#comment-4137865 <em>American justice is broken. Is there any chance it can be fixed? Comment by pete </em> Not as long as the Republicans rule. American justice is broken. Is there any chance it can be fixed?
Comment by pete

Not as long as the Republicans rule.

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/comment-page-1/#comment-4137863 bilbobaggins Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:11:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/#comment-4137863 <em>It promotes the feeling that the US does not care about the Iraqi civilians they are suppose to be protecting. Comment by JMOHR</em> If the US government gave a rats as* about the people in Iraq and Afghanistan, they would leave. Because that's what the people in those two countries want us to do. Go away and leave them the hell alone. It promotes the feeling that the US does not care about the Iraqi civilians they are suppose to be protecting.
Comment by JMOHR

If the US government gave a rats as* about the people in Iraq and Afghanistan, they would leave. Because that’s what the people in those two countries want us to do. Go away and leave them the hell alone.

]]> By: mary http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/comment-page-1/#comment-4137841 mary Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:54:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/#comment-4137841 What has me perplexed is the apparent belief that it’s OK to kill suspected criminals. Comment by pete — October 29, 2007 @ 3:55 pm Personally, I think that this kind of thinking really became prevalent when Israel started to blow people away from helicopters (never mind the "collateral damage") and then would explain that they were aiming at "suspects" as though that made it okay somehow. What has me perplexed is the apparent belief that it’s OK to kill suspected criminals.

Comment by pete — October 29, 2007 @ 3:55 pm

Personally, I think that this kind of thinking really became prevalent when Israel started to blow people away from helicopters (never mind the “collateral damage”) and then would explain that they were aiming at “suspects” as though that made it okay somehow.

]]> By: ForTruth http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/comment-page-1/#comment-4137812 ForTruth Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:41:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/#comment-4137812 Didn't this guy also sit on the board at Exxon or Chevron or something? And now he's worried about his people? Didn’t this guy also sit on the board at Exxon or Chevron or something? And now he’s worried about his people?

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/comment-page-1/#comment-4137806 Marie Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:40:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/#comment-4137806 Muslims are to Bush what the Jews were to Hitler. No troll here can prove otherwise. Just look at what he's done. As for the little boy in Afghanistan (I think he is 9) what do you think he will feel about Americans in 10-15 years? He already hates them for what they needlessly did to his family - when he's older he will be able to apply that to what happened to his country. Muslims are to Bush what the Jews were to Hitler.
No troll here can prove otherwise. Just look at what he’s done.

As for the little boy in Afghanistan (I think he is 9) what do you think he will feel about Americans in 10-15 years? He already hates them for what they needlessly did to his family – when he’s older he will be able to apply that to what happened to his country.

]]> By: impeachcheneythenbush http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/comment-page-1/#comment-4137734 impeachcheneythenbush Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:15:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/#comment-4137734 Two comments. On 60 minutes last night, the spokesman at that air strike center (in some undisclosed ME country) said that there are an increasing number of airstrikes because there are too few boots on the ground in Afghanistan. Also, he also said that out of 260 "collateral deaths," associated with those air strikes, not ONE "bad guy" was killed. If some country was doing this to us, we'd sure hate them, wouldn't we? I'm so ashamed of this country. Two comments. On 60 minutes last night, the spokesman at that air strike center (in some undisclosed ME country) said that there are an increasing number of airstrikes because there are too few boots on the ground in Afghanistan. Also, he also said that out of 260 “collateral deaths,” associated with those air strikes, not ONE “bad guy” was killed. If some country was doing this to us, we’d sure hate them, wouldn’t we?

I’m so ashamed of this country.

]]> By: pete http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/comment-page-1/#comment-4137700 pete Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:55:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/#comment-4137700 "Collateral damage" is bad enough. What has me perplexed is the apparent belief that it's OK to kill <em>suspected</em> criminals. Imagine how much this will aid law enforcement. Now, if someone is suspected of a crime, we can just hit their alleged home with a Tomahawk. No need to risk lives by making arrests. No need to pay a prosecutor to assemble a case. No need for trials where, gasp, there is a chance the prosecution may be proven wrong. American justice is broken. Is there any chance it can be fixed? “Collateral damage” is bad enough. What has me perplexed is the apparent belief that it’s OK to kill suspected criminals. Imagine how much this will aid law enforcement. Now, if someone is suspected of a crime, we can just hit their alleged home with a Tomahawk. No need to risk lives by making arrests. No need to pay a prosecutor to assemble a case. No need for trials where, gasp, there is a chance the prosecution may be proven wrong.

American justice is broken. Is there any chance it can be fixed?

]]> By: Leftside Annie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/comment-page-1/#comment-4137682 Leftside Annie Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:46:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/#comment-4137682 28 -- Silly Democrat! "Republican thinking" is an oxymoron. 28 — Silly Democrat!

“Republican thinking” is an oxymoron.

]]> By: nanlichi http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/comment-page-1/#comment-4137681 nanlichi Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:45:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/#comment-4137681 Damn, I always thought that self abuse and self loathing were a deep part of a neocon psyche, but TCDon calling himself a nazi is an unexpected truth. Carry on neocon. When the self hate gets too much to handle, go ahead and spoil the pelt. We won't mind. Damn, I always thought that self abuse and self loathing were a deep part of a neocon psyche, but TCDon calling himself a nazi is an unexpected truth.

Carry on neocon. When the self hate gets too much to handle, go ahead and spoil the pelt. We won’t mind.

]]> By: Democrat Soldier http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/comment-page-1/#comment-4137668 Democrat Soldier Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:41:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/#comment-4137668 #16 - "spoken like a true anti-semite “progressive” Nazi." Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 3:26 pm Yuo're getting your slurs mixed up! Progressives are Commies! It's the Regressives (Republicans, neo-cons, conservatives, ditto-heads) that are the fascist Nazi's! You'll have to take a time-out now for your mistaking the right for the left. Don't worry, it'll begin to making sense as you think it over. #16 – “spoken like a true anti-semite “progressive” Nazi.” Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 3:26 pm

Yuo’re getting your slurs mixed up! Progressives are Commies! It’s the Regressives (Republicans, neo-cons, conservatives, ditto-heads) that are the fascist Nazi’s!

You’ll have to take a time-out now for your mistaking the right for the left. Don’t worry, it’ll begin to making sense as you think it over.

]]> By: Leftside Annie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/comment-page-1/#comment-4137663 Leftside Annie Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:41:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/#comment-4137663 24 - Eh, they're just brown people anyway. Who cares? /sarc off 24 – Eh, they’re just brown people anyway. Who cares?

/sarc off

]]> By: mary http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/comment-page-1/#comment-4137659 mary Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:39:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/#comment-4137659 Well, when you have too much "collateral damage" and "enhanced interrogation techniques" you know what you get next? BLOWBACK! Well, when you have too much “collateral damage” and “enhanced interrogation techniques” you know what you get next? BLOWBACK!

]]> By: whiteyfresh http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/comment-page-1/#comment-4137656 whiteyfresh Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:38:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/#comment-4137656 kindA like "enhanced inTERRO(r)Gation techniques" kindA like “enhanced inTERRO(r)Gation techniques”

]]> By: whiteyfresh http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/comment-page-1/#comment-4137654 whiteyfresh Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:37:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/#comment-4137654 Civilians don’t seem to matter to most of those in charge. That's why they came up with the term "collateral damage"-THAT is a term that makes me sick!!!! Civilians don’t seem to matter to most of those in charge.

That’s why they came up with the term “collateral damage”-THAT is a term that makes me sick!!!!

]]> By: mary http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/comment-page-1/#comment-4137646 mary Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:35:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/#comment-4137646 I saw most of this interview. The military guys were talking about "proportionality", which seemed to mean that the "bad" guys' deaths outweighed the unfortunate deaths of civilians. I think they're doing more air campaigns to keep up their skills for you-know-what and to reduce the number of troop deaths so they can say things are improving. Civilians don't seem to matter to most of those in charge. I saw most of this interview. The military guys were talking about “proportionality”, which seemed to mean that the “bad” guys’ deaths outweighed the unfortunate deaths of civilians.

I think they’re doing more air campaigns to keep up their skills for you-know-what and to reduce the number of troop deaths so they can say things are improving. Civilians don’t seem to matter to most of those in charge.

]]> By: whiteyfresh http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/comment-page-1/#comment-4137645 whiteyfresh Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:35:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/karzai-air-strikes/#comment-4137645 Shayne-thanks-I totally missed that!sheesh-what a dip. Shayne-thanks-I totally missed that!sheesh-what a dip.

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