Bush Administration Touts ‘Disciplinary Action’ Against FEMA Staffer, Gives Him Job Promotion
Bush Administration Touts ‘Disciplinary Action’ Against FEMA Staffer, Gives Him Job Promotion
Last Friday, the Washington Post revealed that a FEMA press conference about the California wildfires was staged. In an event that was aired live on cable stations, FEMA staffers posed as journalists and lobbed softball questions at Vice Adm. Harvey E. Johnson, the deputy administrator of FEMA.
FEMA quickly came under a storm of criticism. The Department of Homeland Security said the propaganda press conference was “inexcusable,” and claimed they were taking the issue “very seriously.” Dana Perino said the White House does not “condone” FEMA’s actions.
John “Pat” Philbin, FEMA’s director of external affairs, quickly announced his resignation. “It was absolutely a bad decision. I regret it happened. Certainly…I should have stopped it,” he said. But Philbin simultaneously announced that he was landing comfortably at the Director of Public Affairs for the Director of National Intelligence, where he is starting today.
The Bush administration has sought to portray Philbin’s departure as an act of accountability. In a phone call with CNN’s Jeanne Meserve this morning, FEMA Director David Paulison pointed to Philbin’s exit as an example of the “disciplinary action” that was being undertaken in the wake of the phony press conference:
MESERVE: [Paulison] also said that some disciplinary action has been taken over at FEMA and that he was very disturbed at the effect this had on morale in his agency. When I asked if it had a deleterious effect, he said undoubtedly it had. […]
I did ask him also about John Philbin, also known also as Pat Philbin. … I asked Paulison if he thought it was appropriate that Philbin should make the move over to another government agency. He said that’s between Philbin and his new boss. But Paulison did say in an e-mail, Philbin had taken complete responsibility for what had happened at that press conference.
Watch it:
The administration’s efforts spin Philbin’s departure defy the reality of the situation. In an email to PRNewser, a FEMA spokesman described Philbin’s departure as a job promotion. He is landing an “amazing opportunity to head the communications shop at ODNI,” said FEMA press secretary Aaron Walker.
For DNI Mike McConnell — who has gained a reputation for hyping and manipulating terrorist threats — the acquisition of an expert in phony communications seems quite appropriate.
UPDATE: The AP reports that Philbin’s hiring has been put on hold by the DNI, and McConnell is now “weighing whether to hire” him.
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Discipline and accountability in the Bush administration:
“We’re gonna discipline this guy until his buttocks have unsightly hickeys on them!”
October 29th, 2007 at 1:25 pmHeckuva resignation Johnnie!
October 29th, 2007 at 1:25 pmWhere’s the punishment? (Can we get a short old lady to ask this? -
Helen Thomas would be good)
Why does Vice Adm. Harvey E. Johnson, the deputy administrator, still
October 29th, 2007 at 1:26 pmhold HIS job?
There is no accountibility…
Its the Good Ol’ Boys Network…
If you get caught, you’re not disciplined, you’re promoted sideways
October 29th, 2007 at 1:27 pmHow amzingly Dilbertesque. They’ve punished him by promoting him to a management level where he can do no further harm.
October 29th, 2007 at 1:28 pmHe’s a bad boy. A naughty boy. Maybe even a nasty bad, naughty boy.
Ooooooh, spankings for everyone!
October 29th, 2007 at 1:28 pmWhen members of the Bush crime family, aka, the current USA administration, get caught or exposed doing stupid or evil things, they usually get rewarded, promoted or given the Medal of Freedom… It’s what Bush likes to call a “moment of accountabiliy.”
October 29th, 2007 at 1:30 pmOkay, this one is just a big head scratcher….Dilbertesque is the perfect adjective.
October 29th, 2007 at 1:32 pmBulletin:
October 29th, 2007 at 1:33 pmPhilbin is NOT getting the new position after his fiasco at FEMA.
Caught last Friday and landing comfortably today. What is this administration practicing - “catch and release accountability”?
October 29th, 2007 at 1:35 pmI’m surprised he didn’t get a medal of freedom.
October 29th, 2007 at 1:35 pmLibs don’t want to hear that news (even though it was already reported by AP).
Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 1:36 pm
Shhh… if TCDon ever realizes just how crooked and incompetent the Bush Admin really is and has been all along, his pointed little head will explode.
October 29th, 2007 at 1:39 pmFailing upward is a trademark(or is that a benchmark?) of this administration.
October 29th, 2007 at 1:39 pmPhilbin is NOT getting the new position after his fiasco at FEMA.
Comment by Marie — October 29, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
Good to hear! Well done, us!
October 29th, 2007 at 1:40 pmTCDon
October 29th, 2007 at 1:40 pmOf course you assume that everyone here is unbelievably partisan. Most lefties I know (and I know bunches and bunches and bunches) can’t stand the Clintons or most democrats either.
Did I call it or what?
October 29th, 2007 at 1:41 pmHe’s a bad boy. A naughty boy. Maybe even a nasty bad, naughty boy.
Ooooooh, spankings for everyone!
Comment by Leftside Annie — October 29, 2007 @ 1:28 pm
AWESOME.Truly awesome…
snarked in my vitamin water…
October 29th, 2007 at 1:45 pmBushCo “Accountability”: Failing upward.
October 29th, 2007 at 1:45 pmThere is not a law in the land that these people respect.
October 29th, 2007 at 1:48 pmHere’s the rub. Philbin is not a “loyal Bushie” by definition.
He had a 25 year career in the Coast Guard. He then briefly held a corporate job, before coming to FEMA as head of External Affairs (or, in plainspeak, head of their PR department).
He has a PhD from the University of Maryland.
In other words, he has experience.
His “team” of colleagues, however are loyal Bush appointees. His former deputy, Cindy Taylor, was the one telling “Brownie” over e-mail that he looked “fabulous.”
Philbin as a military man may have been naieve, or maybe he’s taking the fall because he was in charge. Still, give it a little more thought.
October 29th, 2007 at 1:48 pmWell that sure showed him.
October 29th, 2007 at 1:49 pmI’m glad that somebody is at least “weighing” whether or not to hire somebody who would pull a stunt like this. Next, maybe they can “weigh” why this isn’t a no-brainer to everyone concerned.
I read the linked article, and this sentence leapt out at me:
“FEMA later apologized for the phony news briefing and said it was reviewing its procedures for dealing with news organizations.”
Um…wouldn’t a procedure for dealing with news organizations require actual news organizations to be involved?
October 29th, 2007 at 1:51 pmmcconnell’s mouthpiece is a liar. they will wait to see if the press loses interest in following this story. once the chattermonkeys have moved on, johnpat philbin will slide into his shiny new job as propagandist for the dni.
come on, it’s not like you believed anything that mcconnell or that agency had to say anyway.
October 29th, 2007 at 1:54 pm19 — ooooh, sorry, whitey! ;o)
Heheheh!
October 29th, 2007 at 1:54 pmI love how the WH / Dana Peroxide / et al all of a sudden start pretending that FEMA isn’t part of the executive branch (that is, under the WhiteHouse).
In most cases, everytime a federal agency does something, it is touted as if Shrub has personally done it with his own hands. But let something go wrong…….
October 29th, 2007 at 1:55 pmComment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 1:48 pm
°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•° *Yawnz* °•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•
October 29th, 2007 at 1:57 pmIsn’t there a law recognized across the internet that when a troll plays the “but, Clinton” card, it automtically loses the debate?
October 29th, 2007 at 1:58 pmAnother case of ‘Don’t ask, Don’t smell’?
October 29th, 2007 at 2:00 pmConsider “honor and integrity” in the White House restored!
When someone in this administration fails to do their job, or deceives the public, why by all means, promote them. That’ll teach ‘em.
Yipeeee!
Okay, so if a teen-ager making minimum wage at a McDonalds is caught red-handed expectorating (that’d be spitting, trolls) on patron’s Big Macs, do they threaten him by offering a position in sales earning $75,000?
October 29th, 2007 at 2:01 pmNow what about the Clintons’ fake “town hall meetings†with plants asking soft-ball questions. Where is your outrage about that?
Comment by TCDum— October 29, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
…and this pertains to the thread’s topic, how?
October 29th, 2007 at 2:03 pmNow what about the Clintons’ fake “town hall meetings†with plants asking soft-ball questions. Where is your outrage about that?
Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
Be a dear, and put up at least one link to prove your allegation.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:06 pmNo wingnut news or websites, of course.
Thanks Marie, I thought I heard that this morning on MSNBC but couldn’t find it anywhere.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:07 pmNow what about the Clintons’ fake “town hall meetings†with plants asking soft-ball questions. Where is your outrage about that?
Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
Got links? I didn’t think so.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:08 pmTCDon sez:
Thank you for yet another iteration of “Clinton did it!”.
Don’t you trolls know any other songs?
October 29th, 2007 at 2:08 pmif TCDon ever realizes just how crooked and incompetent the Bush Admin really is and has been all along, his pointed little head will explode.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — October 29, 2007 @ 1:39 pm
So tell us why that is a BAD thing?!?!?!?!
October 29th, 2007 at 2:09 pm34 - Awwwww, now, Zooey - if they saw it on FUX, it MUST be true! Billo wouldn’t lie to us!!!!
October 29th, 2007 at 2:09 pmdon’t you know? Clinton was responsible for anything bad that ever happened to the United States.
And the budget surplus, the military being in fighting trim (remember, it was Clinton’s military that conquered Iraq, it’s Bush’s policies that are keeping us there), the only truly accountible moment of defeating terrorists on US soil (the LA Airport bombings over the millenium), all that was actually Bush’s doing from the future in his special DeLorean.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:10 pmIsn’t there a law recognized across the internet that when a troll plays the “but, Clinton†card, it automtically loses the debate?
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — October 29, 2007 @ 1:58 pm
Were it not for the fact that Hillary is quite likely going to be the next President, I’d agree with this law. The Clintons are not safely in the past any longer.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:10 pm34 - Awwwww, now, Zooey - if they saw it on FUX, it MUST be true! Billo wouldn’t lie to us!!!!
Comment by Leftside Annie — October 29, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
Oh heavens, my bad.
Now I’ll have to punish myself with cheesecake.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:11 pm…and this pertains to the thread’s topic, how?
Comment by DRxJ — October 29, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
I know it’s hard, but try to avoid feeding this troll. His objective is to derail the thread and his favorite technique is the “Clinton did it too” ploy. The only way he can defend the indefensible is by finding a straw man to attack (for which he has to go off-topic).
October 29th, 2007 at 2:12 pmPhilbin as a military man may have been naieve, or maybe he’s taking the fall because he was in charge. Still, give it a little more thought.
Comment by CitiDC — October 29, 2007 @ 1:48 pm
Lay down with dogs, wake up with fleas. A military man should have learned discipline and should know better. If a young kid had fallen into the trap that would be one thing, this guy should know better.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:12 pmClinton was responsible for anything bad that ever happened to the United States.
Comment by raynman — October 29, 2007 @ 2:10 pm
Well, it does appears that TCDum’s Clinton envy has caused his/her hemorrhoids to flare up!
October 29th, 2007 at 2:12 pmThere are three serial trolls lurking here today.
TCDon
xley
hits
Please do not directly feed the trolls.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:14 pmTypical Repud logic in action.
“But Millard Fillmoore and Chester Arthur did it too!”
-GSD
October 29th, 2007 at 2:15 pmDon’t you trolls know any other songs?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
The little trolls only know what they have been spoon fed.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:16 pmWere it not for the fact that Hillary is quite likely going to be the next President, I’d agree with this law. The Clintons are not safely in the past any longer.
Comment by Keltoi — October 29, 2007 @ 2:10 pm
Because there’s a chance that Hillary may be the President in 2009, let’s blame everything that’s happened the last 7 years on her. The mind of a troll is truly an enigma, wrapped in mystery, shrouded in delusion.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:17 pmOMG, our resident troll is claiming that Clinton is filling her town hall meetings with “plants” — I can hardly type, I am laughing so hard at the absurdity of his comment.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:20 pmDemocrats always encounter hecklers at their public appearances (Clinton Obama, Edwards, Kerry have all experienced it) - it is a Republican tactic (perfected by Karl Rove for Bush) that friendly audiences only are invited, vetted and granted permission to attend appearances. How many times have we seen GW set up by a “plant” in the audience? (Not that he doesn’t proceed to make a public fool of himself despite the aid.)
Recall the set up of the six soldiers a year or two ago - where the questions from soldiers in the field were scripted and rehearsed.
Philbin is NOT getting the new position after his fiasco at FEMA.
Comment by Marie — October 29, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
Good to hear! Well done, us!
Comment by toasterhead — October 29, 2007 @ 1:40 pm
DO WE HAVE A DEFINITIVE FINDING RE THIS STATEMENT?
Frankly, there would be no surprise should Philbin actually get the position. After all, it would represent more authority and greater status which is the usual reward for a loyal Bushie. If he lost the position, one would have to assume that it was only because of the publicity when the new position became common knowledge. Was that not a Friday news release?
Philbin was actually well qualified for the position. This seems to be a case where an otherwise good guy went bad because of the poor example provided by the Bush administration
October 29th, 2007 at 2:20 pmBecause there’s a chance that Hillary may be the President in 2009, let’s blame everything that’s happened the last 7 years on her. The mind of a troll is truly an enigma, wrapped in mystery, shrouded in delusion.
Comment by Shayne — October 29, 2007 @ 2:17 pm
Oh, fiddle, I never said lets blame everything on Hillary, Shayne. I just said the refutation of the “but Clinton” argument would carry more weight if the Clintons were out of politics. They are not, not even close.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:24 pmOh, fiddle, I never said lets blame everything on Hillary, Shayne. I just said the refutation of the “but Clinton†argument would carry more weight if the Clintons were out of politics. They are not, not even close.
Comment by Keltoi — October 29, 2007 @ 2:24 pm
I didn’t realize Hillary was president 7 years ago - but then again, the minds of the insane wingnuts never cease to amaze the sane…
October 29th, 2007 at 2:27 pmNow what about the Clintons’ fake “town hall meetings†with plants asking soft-ball questions. Where is your outrage about that?
Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
Sorry, but you’ve confused Bush with Clinton(s) yet again, poor little ‘tard!
October 29th, 2007 at 2:28 pmThis action is the Bush way. Promote dishonesty and incompetence, punish competence and honesty!
October 29th, 2007 at 2:28 pmOh, fiddle, I never said lets blame everything on Hillary, Shayne. I just said the refutation of the “but Clinton†argument would carry more weight if the Clintons were out of politics. They are not, not even close.
Comment by Keltoi
It all has to do with context. If the context is Hillary Clinton and her Senate duties or her presidential aspirations, then yes it would be appropriate. If the “clinton did it too” tag is thrown just for distraction, then it should be treated with derision. TP bloggers are smart enough to know the difference.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:33 pmIf the “clinton did it too†tag is thrown just for distraction, then it should be treated with derision. TP bloggers are smart enough to know the difference.
Comment by StratRat — October 29, 2007 @ 2:33 pm
But Keltoi isn’t…
October 29th, 2007 at 2:35 pmWere it not for the fact that Hillary is quite likely going to be the next President, I’d agree with this law. The Clintons are not safely in the past any longer.
Comment by Keltoi — October 29, 2007 @ 2:10 pm
That’s a fair point, Keitol. I’ll go along with that.
I think in this case the rule applies however, as the troll in question was not commenting on Senator Clinton, merely using the family name as a distraction.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:36 pmI didn’t realize Hillary was president 7 years ago - but then again, the minds of the insane wingnuts never cease to amaze the sane…
Comment by republicans hate facts — October 29, 2007 @ 2:27 pm
Yeah, except I never said that either.
Bill did though, remember his statement that if he was elected the American people would get two for the price of one? Bill Clinton an insane wingnut - who’d have thunk it?!
October 29th, 2007 at 2:36 pmThat’s a fair point, Keitol. I’ll go along with that.
I think in this case the rule applies however, as the troll in question was not commenting on Senator Clinton, merely using the family name as a distraction.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — October 29, 2007 @ 2:36 pm
Fair enough. I’d love to never mention the name again, trust me. Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton. 1988-2016, almost 3 decades. We continue to ape the Romans more and more…
October 29th, 2007 at 2:39 pmTO THE TROLLS - CLINTON’S TOWN HALL MEETINGS
1. No one would condone the planting of questions at a town hall meeting or news conference. That would include those softballs that come at WH briefings from former gay prostitutes as well as Clinton.
2. There is certainly a difference between a planted question at a WH press briefing or a town hall meeting. You seem to be equating a planted question or two with an entirely fake event. The first should not be condoned, the second just goes beyond the pale.
3. I would also like to see the source for the allegations against Clinton. You see there were a lot of BS stories out there alleging that the Clintons murdered people, committed fraud on land deals and imported drugs. Ken Starr, a very partisan Republican operative, did indeed investigate the allegations and could find no evidence to support them. So, I tend to take these allegations with a grain of salt.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:40 pmYeah, except I never said that either. Comment by Keltoi — October 29, 2007 @ 2:36 pm
Actually you DID, because you said the CLINTONS had done it before. Hillary was the FIRST LADY, not the PRESIDENT, so you in fact did exactly what you were accused of - LIAR!
Bill did though, remember his statement that if he was elected the American people would get two for the price of one? Bill Clinton an insane wingnut - who’d have thunk it?!
Comment by Keltoi — October 29, 2007 @ 2:36 pm
Actually wingnuts are extremist right wingers - dum bass! So no, Bill wasn’t a wingnut!
Like I said, Bill was the only person with a constitutional duty, so it doesn’t matter what cute thing he said to demonstrate how much he valued the advice of his wife - she wasn’t the president, so you can’t measure her as such.
So, no, you don’t get the difference, and you’ve been shown to be a liar. YET AGAIN!
October 29th, 2007 at 2:42 pmFair enough. I’d love to never mention the name again, trust me. Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton. 1988-2016, almost 3 decades. We continue to ape the Romans more and more…
Comment by Keltoi — October 29, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
That’s because the wealth has congregated into a few hands, just like the Romans. Thanks to those STUPID GOP policies from your Prezzie RayGun! You people have worked to destroy the country, and you are their little useful idiot!
October 29th, 2007 at 2:43 pm†Dana Perino said the White House does not “condone†FEMA’s actions.”
Horse shit!
October 29th, 2007 at 2:44 pmQuestion: Has a second troll violated this thread with it’s presence?
October 29th, 2007 at 2:46 pmGeorge W. Bush is a plant. I’m thinking some sort of philodendron.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:48 pmUPDATE:
FEMA public affairs official not taking national intelligence PR job
From Jeanne Meserve
CNN Washington Bureau
WASHINGTON (CNN) — The man who oversaw public affairs at the Federal Emergency Management Agency when it held a fake news conference last week will no longer be taking over as head of public relations for the director of national intelligence.
Pat Philbin won’t be taking over as head of public relations for the director of national intelligence.
Pat Philbin, FEMA’s external affairs director, was scheduled to become director of public affairs for National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell on Monday. It was not immediately clear whether he offered his resignation or was fired just as he was set to begin the job.
As of Sunday, officials only said that they were aware of concerns.
But Monday, the director of national intelligence office issued this statement: “We do not normally comment on personnel matters. However, we can confirm that Mr. Philbin is not, nor is he scheduled to be, the director of public affairs for the office of the director of national intelligence.”
October 29th, 2007 at 2:57 pmUPDATE:
FEMA public affairs official not taking national intelligence PR job Comment by Exley — October 29, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
You can thank us later, ExLax.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:58 pm61. It doesn’t matter what evidence you give to the trolls, because to them it’ll be biased no matter what. They always fall back to the liberal media myth and this allows them to keep their unfounded views.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:58 pmI find it totally unbelievable that you left nut libs will now believe John “Pat†Philbin when he says he will be the Director of Public Affairs for the Director of National Intelligence. SInce he was found to be untruthful before why would you think he has changed???
You all are realy bizarre!
Oh, and I love this at the END:
UPDATE: The AP reports that Philbin’s hiring has been put on hold by the DNI, and McConnell is now “weighing whether to hire†him.
Ok, I’m now waiting for you to change the headlines to read:
HIRING ON HOLD
Yeah sure!
October 29th, 2007 at 3:14 pmBush Administration Touts ‘Disciplinary Action’ Against FEMA Staffer, Gives Him Job Promotion
And when they’re really, really mad at someone, they punish them by forcing them to wear onerously heavy Preznitential Medals of Freedom around their necks like a dead albatross….
Cheers,
October 29th, 2007 at 3:30 pm#34 Zooey:
Now what about the Clintons’ fake “town hall meetings†with plants asking soft-ball questions. Where is your outrage about that?
Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
Be a dear, and put up at least one link to prove your allegation.
No wingnut news or websites, of course.
TCDon misspelled “Dubya”. Easy mistake for a brain-dead RW foamer to make…..
Cheers,
October 29th, 2007 at 3:36 pmNow what about the Clintons’ fake “town hall meetings†with plants asking soft-ball questions. Where is your outrage about that?
Comment by TCDon — October 29, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
Be a dear, and put up at least one link to prove your allegation.
No wingnut news or websites, of course.
Comment by Zooey
Zooey, you know that Republican wingnuts never source their factoids. Here are a couple of links for you.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,153720,00.html
http://www.casperstartribune.net/ articles/ 2004/ 07/ 30/ news/ wyoming/ 63b4fcb928fe8e6987256ee10054e715.txt
October 29th, 2007 at 3:57 pm@72 O. Bigfoot:
They staged the questions, they staged the answers. Sounds like a live action press release, or the FAQ section of a website. There were no health threats involved, and no crime was commited, despite what some liberal “trolls†would suggest. Basically, they were trying to fight fires and provide for displaced people. Any kind of press conference takes away from that. Just take a look at Governor Schwarzenegger’s masterful handling of the media for further information.
Mountains out of mole hills.
Mr. BigFootInMouth loves him some propaganda and FauxSnooze. Relieves him of the responsibility of thinking to have someone do it for him and hand out the pabulum predigested. “Look at what we say, don’t ask what we do….”
Cheers,
October 29th, 2007 at 4:03 pm#74 O. Bigfoot:
40 years after President Johnson’s massive “Great Society†welfare expansion, liberals are still complaining about wealth being concentrated in a few hands….
… when in fact the objective evidence is showing that this is happening to even a greater and greater extent.
That wouldn’t have anything to do with capital gains being taxed at a lower rate than actual income gained by doing actual honest work, would it?
Then there’s the executives in companies that are actually losing money hand-over-fist getting massive bonuses to the tune of millions of dollars. “Capitalism” in action, I tellya….
Cheers,
October 29th, 2007 at 4:08 pmPresident Reagan’s principles created the greatest expansion of wealth and prosperity ever seen in the United States to this day, and he knew that taxing the public into submission was not the answer. Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 29, 2007 @ 3:48 pm
BAHAHA, what a stupid claim! The Clinton expansion was far greater, and unlike RayGun, it decreased the wage gap, it didn’t increase it.
So what do the modern day libs want to do? Raise our taxes. Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 29, 2007 @ 3:48 pm
You mean like what Clinton did, when he CREATED THE LARGEST EXPANSION OF WEALTH AND GREATER INCREASE IN WAGES THAN RAYGUN!!!
You know, I corrected your false claims last week, and noted that your CATO RESOURCES were fraudulent, and even pointed you to the US Census numbers that proved this.
Yet here you are, posting the SAME LIES YET AGAIN!
That confirms that you aren’t just STUPID, but you’re 100% DISHONEST!
Some people never learn.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 29, 2007 @ 3:48 pm
And you would be one of them!
October 29th, 2007 at 4:10 pmYou must be an Edwards supporter. Class envy all the way, and steal from the rich to give to the poor (except how it really works is only steal from the rich who are too stupid to hide their money offshore, and keep the poor poor, and dependent upon government for their “welfareâ€). Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 29, 2007 @ 3:48 pm
BAHAHA, the CLASS ENVY PROJECTION - too funny, while you DEFEND TAX EVASION!!! You’re a real piece of work!
I don’t ENVY the wealthy, but I believe that wealthy criminals that hide their money offshore should go to jail, and especially when their acts are UNPATRIOTIC and DISHONEST - traits you seem quite laden with!
40 years after President Johnson’s massive “Great Society†welfare expansion, liberals are still complaining about wealth being concentrated in a few hands….so lets have more welfare!
Comment by O. Bigfoot — October 29, 2007 @ 3:48 pm
That has much to do with RONNIE RAYGUN turning back the clock on those efforts! Never mind that the number of poor dropped significantly before RayGun got in office, or that Clinton dropped the poverty rates yet again, only for them to rise again with Bush.
If we could keep you Republicans out of office so you stop screwing up the economy, we might just do away with much of the need for welfare.
Oh, and you do realize that the number of Americans actually on ‘welfare’ are quite small, don’t you child? Of course you don’t!
WHEREAS the number of you GOP on the federal t!t with corporate welfare just keeps rising!!!
October 29th, 2007 at 4:13 pm#74 O. Biglie:
President Reagan’s principles created the greatest expansion of wealth and prosperity ever seen in the United States to this day, and he knew that taxing the public into submission was not the answer.
No. See here too for more of the “big picture”. And here. And here.
Amazingly enough, the Republican foamer brigade, while claiming to be enamoured of “economic growth”, ignore the number that show that Democrats are better at this than Republicans … abd don’t vote Democratic even as it is in their own best interests to do so….
Cheers,
October 29th, 2007 at 4:17 pm