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		<title>By: Arne Langsetmo</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/philbin-mcconnell/comment-page-2/#comment-4137742</link>
		<dc:creator>Arne Langsetmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#74 O. Biglie:

&lt;i&gt;President Reaganâ€™s principles created the greatest expansion of wealth and prosperity ever seen in the United States to this day, and he knew that taxing the public into submission was not the answer.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://bp1.blogger.com/_yBU2IH33oeM/RtauyE9FIpI/AAAAAAAAAqI/9B4m1EmORV0/s1600-h/macro+graph+1+-+real+gdp+per+capita.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;No&lt;/a&gt;.  See &lt;a href=&quot;http://zfacts.com/p/318.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; too for more of the &quot;big picture&quot;.  And &lt;a href=&quot;http://angrybear.blogspot.com/2007/08/comparing-presidents-rankings-of.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  And &lt;a href=&quot;http://zzpat.tripod.com/graphs.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

Amazingly enough, the Republican foamer brigade, while claiming to be enamoured of &quot;economic growth&quot;, ignore the number that show that Democrats are better at this than Republicans ... abd don&#039;t vote Democratic even as it is in their &lt;i&gt;own&lt;/i&gt; best interests to do so....

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#74 O. Biglie:</p>
<p><i>President Reaganâ€™s principles created the greatest expansion of wealth and prosperity ever seen in the United States to this day, and he knew that taxing the public into submission was not the answer.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://bp1.blogger.com/_yBU2IH33oeM/RtauyE9FIpI/AAAAAAAAAqI/9B4m1EmORV0/s1600-h/macro+graph+1+-+real+gdp+per+capita.jpg" rel="nofollow">No</a>.  See <a href="http://zfacts.com/p/318.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> too for more of the &#8220;big picture&#8221;.  And <a href="http://angrybear.blogspot.com/2007/08/comparing-presidents-rankings-of.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  And <a href="http://zzpat.tripod.com/graphs.htm" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>Amazingly enough, the Republican foamer brigade, while claiming to be enamoured of &#8220;economic growth&#8221;, ignore the number that show that Democrats are better at this than Republicans &#8230; abd don&#8217;t vote Democratic even as it is in their <i>own</i> best interests to do so&#8230;.</p>
<p>Cheers,<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4137742', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Arne Langsetmo</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/philbin-mcconnell/comment-page-2/#comment-4137724</link>
		<dc:creator>Arne Langsetmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#74 O. Bigfoot:

&lt;i&gt;40 years after President Johnsonâ€™s massive â€œGreat Societyâ€ welfare expansion, liberals are still complaining about wealth being concentrated in a few hands....&lt;/i&gt;

... when in fact the objective &lt;i&gt;evidence&lt;/i&gt; is showing that this is happening &lt;b&gt;to even a greater and greater extent&lt;/b&gt;.

That wouldn&#039;t have &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; to do with capital gains being taxed &lt;i&gt;at a lower&lt;/i&gt; rate than actual income gained by doing actual &lt;i&gt;honest&lt;/i&gt; work, would it?

Then there&#039;s the executives in companies that are actually &lt;i&gt;losing money hand-over-fist&lt;/i&gt; getting massive bonuses to the tune of &lt;i&gt;millions&lt;/i&gt; of dollars.  &quot;Capitalism&quot; in action, I tellya....

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#74 O. Bigfoot:</p>
<p><i>40 years after President Johnsonâ€™s massive â€œGreat Societyâ€ welfare expansion, liberals are still complaining about wealth being concentrated in a few hands&#8230;.</i></p>
<p>&#8230; when in fact the objective <i>evidence</i> is showing that this is happening <b>to even a greater and greater extent</b>.</p>
<p>That wouldn&#8217;t have <i>anything</i> to do with capital gains being taxed <i>at a lower</i> rate than actual income gained by doing actual <i>honest</i> work, would it?</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the executives in companies that are actually <i>losing money hand-over-fist</i> getting massive bonuses to the tune of <i>millions</i> of dollars.  &#8220;Capitalism&#8221; in action, I tellya&#8230;.</p>
<p>Cheers,<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4137724', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Arne Langsetmo</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/philbin-mcconnell/comment-page-2/#comment-4137712</link>
		<dc:creator>Arne Langsetmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@72 O. Bigfoot:

&lt;i&gt;They staged the questions, they staged the answers. Sounds like a live action press release, or the FAQ section of a website. There were no health threats involved, and no crime was commited, despite what some liberal â€œtrollsâ€ would suggest. Basically, they were trying to fight fires and provide for displaced people. Any kind of press conference takes away from that. Just take a look at Governor Schwarzeneggerâ€™s masterful handling of the media for further information.

Mountains out of mole hills.&lt;/i&gt;

Mr. BigFootInMouth loves him some propaganda and FauxSnooze.  Relieves him of the responsibility of thinking to have someone do it for him and hand out the pabulum predigested.  &quot;Look at what we say, don&#039;t ask what we &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt;....&quot;

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@72 O. Bigfoot:</p>
<p><i>They staged the questions, they staged the answers. Sounds like a live action press release, or the FAQ section of a website. There were no health threats involved, and no crime was commited, despite what some liberal â€œtrollsâ€ would suggest. Basically, they were trying to fight fires and provide for displaced people. Any kind of press conference takes away from that. Just take a look at Governor Schwarzeneggerâ€™s masterful handling of the media for further information.</p>
<p>Mountains out of mole hills.</i></p>
<p>Mr. BigFootInMouth loves him some propaganda and FauxSnooze.  Relieves him of the responsibility of thinking to have someone do it for him and hand out the pabulum predigested.  &#8220;Look at what we say, don&#8217;t ask what we <i>do</i>&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Cheers,<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4137712', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: shoeless</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/philbin-mcconnell/comment-page-2/#comment-4137703</link>
		<dc:creator>shoeless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Now what about the Clintonsâ€™ fake â€œtown hall meetingsâ€ with plants asking soft-ball questions. Where is your outrage about that?
Comment by TCDon â€” October 29, 2007 @ 1:38 pm

Be a dear, and put up at least one link to prove your allegation.
No wingnut news or websites, of course.

Comment by Zooey&lt;/em&gt;

Zooey, you know that Republican wingnuts never source their factoids.  Here are a couple of links for you.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,153720,00.html

http://www.casperstartribune.net/articles/2004/07/30/news/wyoming/63b4fcb928fe8e6987256ee10054e715.txt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Now what about the Clintonsâ€™ fake â€œtown hall meetingsâ€ with plants asking soft-ball questions. Where is your outrage about that?<br />
Comment by TCDon â€” October 29, 2007 @ 1:38 pm</p>
<p>Be a dear, and put up at least one link to prove your allegation.<br />
No wingnut news or websites, of course.</p>
<p>Comment by Zooey</em></p>
<p>Zooey, you know that Republican wingnuts never source their factoids.  Here are a couple of links for you.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,153720,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,153720,00.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.casperstartribune.net/articles/2004/07/30/news/wyoming/63b4fcb928fe8e6987256ee10054e715.txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.casperstartribune.net/articles/2004/07/30/news/wyoming/63b4fcb928fe8e6987256ee10054e715.txt</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4137703', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Arne Langsetmo</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/philbin-mcconnell/comment-page-2/#comment-4137650</link>
		<dc:creator>Arne Langsetmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#34 Zooey:

&lt;i&gt;Now what about the Clintonsâ€™ fake â€œtown hall meetingsâ€ with plants asking soft-ball questions. Where is your outrage about that?
Comment by TCDon â€” October 29, 2007 @ 1:38 pm

Be a dear, and put up at least one link to prove your allegation.
No wingnut news or websites, of course.&lt;/i&gt;

TCDon misspelled &quot;Dubya&quot;.  Easy mistake for a brain-dead RW foamer to make.....

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#34 Zooey:</p>
<p><i>Now what about the Clintonsâ€™ fake â€œtown hall meetingsâ€ with plants asking soft-ball questions. Where is your outrage about that?<br />
Comment by TCDon â€” October 29, 2007 @ 1:38 pm</p>
<p>Be a dear, and put up at least one link to prove your allegation.<br />
No wingnut news or websites, of course.</i></p>
<p>TCDon misspelled &#8220;Dubya&#8221;.  Easy mistake for a brain-dead RW foamer to make&#8230;..</p>
<p>Cheers,<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4137650', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Arne Langsetmo</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/philbin-mcconnell/comment-page-2/#comment-4137632</link>
		<dc:creator>Arne Langsetmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Bush Administration Touts â€˜Disciplinary Actionâ€™ Against FEMA Staffer, Gives Him Job Promotion&lt;/i&gt;

And when they&#039;re &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;b&gt;really&lt;/b&gt; mad at someone, they punish them by forcing them to wear onerously heavy Preznitential Medals of Freedom around their necks like a dead albatross....

Cheers,</description>
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<p>And when they&#8217;re <i>really</i>, <b>really</b> mad at someone, they punish them by forcing them to wear onerously heavy Preznitential Medals of Freedom around their necks like a dead albatross&#8230;.</p>
<p>Cheers,<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4137632', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ucsbclassics53</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/philbin-mcconnell/comment-page-2/#comment-4137562</link>
		<dc:creator>ucsbclassics53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>61. It doesn&#039;t matter what evidence you give to the trolls, because to them it&#039;ll be biased no matter what. They always fall back to the liberal media myth and this allows them to keep their unfounded views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>61. It doesn&#8217;t matter what evidence you give to the trolls, because to them it&#8217;ll be biased no matter what. They always fall back to the liberal media myth and this allows them to keep their unfounded views.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4137562', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Exley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Exley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UPDATE:

FEMA public affairs official not taking national intelligence PR job


From Jeanne Meserve
CNN Washington Bureau
     
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The man who oversaw public affairs at the Federal Emergency Management Agency when it held a fake news conference last week will no longer be taking over as head of public relations for the director of national intelligence. 

 
Pat Philbin won&#039;t be taking over as head of public relations for the director of national intelligence. 

 Pat Philbin, FEMA&#039;s external affairs director, was scheduled to become director of public affairs for National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell on Monday. It was not immediately clear whether he offered his resignation or was fired just as he was set to begin the job. 

As of Sunday, officials only said that they were aware of concerns. 

But Monday, the director of national intelligence office issued this statement: &quot;We do not normally comment on personnel matters. However, we can confirm that Mr. Philbin is not, nor is he scheduled to be, the director of public affairs for the office of the director of national intelligence.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPDATE:</p>
<p>FEMA public affairs official not taking national intelligence PR job</p>
<p>From Jeanne Meserve<br />
CNN Washington Bureau</p>
<p>WASHINGTON (CNN) &#8212; The man who oversaw public affairs at the Federal Emergency Management Agency when it held a fake news conference last week will no longer be taking over as head of public relations for the director of national intelligence. </p>
<p>Pat Philbin won&#8217;t be taking over as head of public relations for the director of national intelligence. </p>
<p> Pat Philbin, FEMA&#8217;s external affairs director, was scheduled to become director of public affairs for National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell on Monday. It was not immediately clear whether he offered his resignation or was fired just as he was set to begin the job. </p>
<p>As of Sunday, officials only said that they were aware of concerns. </p>
<p>But Monday, the director of national intelligence office issued this statement: &#8220;We do not normally comment on personnel matters. However, we can confirm that Mr. Philbin is not, nor is he scheduled to be, the director of public affairs for the office of the director of national intelligence.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4137556', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Cappy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George W. Bush is a plant. I&#039;m thinking some sort of philodendron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George W. Bush is a plant. I&#8217;m thinking some sort of philodendron.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4137540', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: troll   buster</title>
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		<dc:creator>troll   buster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question: Has a second troll violated this thread with it&#039;s presence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question: Has a second troll violated this thread with it&#8217;s presence?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4137537', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: LividLib</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/29/philbin-mcconnell/comment-page-2/#comment-4137534</link>
		<dc:creator>LividLib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€ Dana Perino said the White House does not â€œcondoneâ€ FEMAâ€™s actions.&quot;


Horse shit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€ Dana Perino said the White House does not â€œcondoneâ€ FEMAâ€™s actions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Horse shit!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4137534', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JMOHR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMOHR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO THE TROLLS - CLINTON&#039;S TOWN HALL MEETINGS

1.  No one would condone the planting of questions at a town hall meeting or news conference.  That would include those softballs that come at WH briefings from former gay prostitutes as well as Clinton.

2.  There is certainly a difference between a planted question at a WH press briefing or a town hall meeting.  You seem to be equating a planted question or two with an entirely fake event.  The first should not be condoned, the second just goes beyond the pale.

3. I would also like to see the source for the allegations against Clinton.  You see there were a lot of BS stories out there alleging that the Clintons murdered people, committed fraud on land deals and imported drugs.  Ken Starr, a very partisan Republican operative, did indeed investigate the allegations and could find no evidence to support them.  So, I tend to take these allegations with a grain of salt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO THE TROLLS &#8211; CLINTON&#8217;S TOWN HALL MEETINGS</p>
<p>1.  No one would condone the planting of questions at a town hall meeting or news conference.  That would include those softballs that come at WH briefings from former gay prostitutes as well as Clinton.</p>
<p>2.  There is certainly a difference between a planted question at a WH press briefing or a town hall meeting.  You seem to be equating a planted question or two with an entirely fake event.  The first should not be condoned, the second just goes beyond the pale.</p>
<p>3. I would also like to see the source for the allegations against Clinton.  You see there were a lot of BS stories out there alleging that the Clintons murdered people, committed fraud on land deals and imported drugs.  Ken Starr, a very partisan Republican operative, did indeed investigate the allegations and could find no evidence to support them.  So, I tend to take these allegations with a grain of salt.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4137520', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keltoi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keltoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thatâ€™s a fair point, Keitol. Iâ€™ll go along with that.

I think in this case the rule applies however, as the troll in question was not commenting on Senator Clinton, merely using the family name as a distraction.

Comment by ralph the wonder llama â€” October 29, 2007 @ 2:36 pm

Fair enough.  I&#039;d love to never mention the name again, trust me.  Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton.  1988-2016, almost 3 decades.  We continue to ape the Romans more and more...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thatâ€™s a fair point, Keitol. Iâ€™ll go along with that.</p>
<p>I think in this case the rule applies however, as the troll in question was not commenting on Senator Clinton, merely using the family name as a distraction.</p>
<p>Comment by ralph the wonder llama â€” October 29, 2007 @ 2:36 pm</p>
<p>Fair enough.  I&#8217;d love to never mention the name again, trust me.  Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton.  1988-2016, almost 3 decades.  We continue to ape the Romans more and more&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4137519', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keltoi</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didnâ€™t realize Hillary was president 7 years ago - but then again, the minds of the insane wingnuts never cease to amaze the saneâ€¦

Comment by republicans hate facts â€” October 29, 2007 @ 2:27 pm

Yeah, except I never said that either.

Bill did though, remember his statement that if he was elected the American people would get two for the price of one?  Bill Clinton an insane wingnut - who&#039;d have thunk it?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didnâ€™t realize Hillary was president 7 years ago &#8211; but then again, the minds of the insane wingnuts never cease to amaze the saneâ€¦</p>
<p>Comment by republicans hate facts â€” October 29, 2007 @ 2:27 pm</p>
<p>Yeah, except I never said that either.</p>
<p>Bill did though, remember his statement that if he was elected the American people would get two for the price of one?  Bill Clinton an insane wingnut &#8211; who&#8217;d have thunk it?!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4137515', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ralph the wonder llama</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Were it not for the fact that Hillary is quite likely going to be the next President, Iâ€™d agree with this law. The Clintons are not safely in the past any longer.

Comment by Keltoi â€” October 29, 2007 @ 2:10 pm&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s a fair point, Keitol. I&#039;ll go along with that.

I think in this case the rule applies however, as the troll in question was not commenting on Senator Clinton, merely using the family name as a distraction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Were it not for the fact that Hillary is quite likely going to be the next President, Iâ€™d agree with this law. The Clintons are not safely in the past any longer.</p>
<p>Comment by Keltoi â€” October 29, 2007 @ 2:10 pm</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a fair point, Keitol. I&#8217;ll go along with that.</p>
<p>I think in this case the rule applies however, as the troll in question was not commenting on Senator Clinton, merely using the family name as a distraction.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4137514', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: StratRat</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Oh, fiddle, I never said lets blame everything on Hillary, Shayne. I just said the refutation of the â€œbut Clintonâ€ argument would carry more weight if the Clintons were out of politics. They are not, not even close.

Comment by Keltoi&lt;/em&gt;

It all has to do with context. If the context is Hillary Clinton and her Senate duties or her presidential aspirations, then yes it would be appropriate. If the &quot;clinton did it too&quot; tag is thrown just for distraction, then it should be treated with derision. TP bloggers are smart enough to know the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Oh, fiddle, I never said lets blame everything on Hillary, Shayne. I just said the refutation of the â€œbut Clintonâ€ argument would carry more weight if the Clintons were out of politics. They are not, not even close.</p>
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<p>It all has to do with context. If the context is Hillary Clinton and her Senate duties or her presidential aspirations, then yes it would be appropriate. If the &#8220;clinton did it too&#8221; tag is thrown just for distraction, then it should be treated with derision. TP bloggers are smart enough to know the difference.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4137509', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keltoi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keltoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because thereâ€™s a chance that Hillary may be the President in 2009, letâ€™s blame everything thatâ€™s happened the last 7 years on her. The mind of a troll is truly an enigma, wrapped in mystery, shrouded in delusion.

Comment by Shayne â€” October 29, 2007 @ 2:17 pm

Oh, fiddle, I never said lets blame everything on Hillary, Shayne.  I just said the refutation of the &quot;but Clinton&quot; argument would carry more weight if the Clintons were out of politics.   They are not, not even close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because thereâ€™s a chance that Hillary may be the President in 2009, letâ€™s blame everything thatâ€™s happened the last 7 years on her. The mind of a troll is truly an enigma, wrapped in mystery, shrouded in delusion.</p>
<p>Comment by Shayne â€” October 29, 2007 @ 2:17 pm</p>
<p>Oh, fiddle, I never said lets blame everything on Hillary, Shayne.  I just said the refutation of the &#8220;but Clinton&#8221; argument would carry more weight if the Clintons were out of politics.   They are not, not even close.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4137495', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JMOHR</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Philbin is NOT getting the new position after his fiasco at FEMA.

Comment by Marie â€” October 29, 2007 @ 1:33 pm

Good to hear! Well done, us!

Comment by toasterhead â€” October 29, 2007 @ 1:40 pm

DO WE HAVE A DEFINITIVE FINDING RE THIS STATEMENT?

Frankly, there would be no surprise should Philbin actually get the position.  After all, it would represent more authority and greater status which is the usual reward for a loyal Bushie.  If he lost the position, one would have to assume that it was only because of the publicity when the new position became common knowledge.  Was that not a Friday news release?

Philbin was actually well qualified for the position.  This seems to be a case where an otherwise good guy went bad because of the poor example provided by the Bush administration</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philbin is NOT getting the new position after his fiasco at FEMA.</p>
<p>Comment by Marie â€” October 29, 2007 @ 1:33 pm</p>
<p>Good to hear! Well done, us!</p>
<p>Comment by toasterhead â€” October 29, 2007 @ 1:40 pm</p>
<p>DO WE HAVE A DEFINITIVE FINDING RE THIS STATEMENT?</p>
<p>Frankly, there would be no surprise should Philbin actually get the position.  After all, it would represent more authority and greater status which is the usual reward for a loyal Bushie.  If he lost the position, one would have to assume that it was only because of the publicity when the new position became common knowledge.  Was that not a Friday news release?</p>
<p>Philbin was actually well qualified for the position.  This seems to be a case where an otherwise good guy went bad because of the poor example provided by the Bush administration<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4137494', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG, our resident troll is claiming that Clinton is filling her town hall meetings with &quot;plants&quot; -- I can hardly type, I am laughing so hard at the absurdity of his comment.
Democrats always encounter hecklers at their public appearances (Clinton Obama, Edwards, Kerry have all experienced it) - it is a Republican tactic (perfected by Karl Rove for Bush) that friendly audiences only are invited, vetted and granted permission to attend appearances.  How many times have we seen GW set up by a &quot;plant&quot; in the audience?  (Not that he doesn&#039;t proceed to make a public fool of himself despite the aid.)  
Recall the set up of the six soldiers a year or two ago - where the questions from soldiers in the field were scripted and rehearsed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, our resident troll is claiming that Clinton is filling her town hall meetings with &#8220;plants&#8221; &#8212; I can hardly type, I am laughing so hard at the absurdity of his comment.<br />
Democrats always encounter hecklers at their public appearances (Clinton Obama, Edwards, Kerry have all experienced it) &#8211; it is a Republican tactic (perfected by Karl Rove for Bush) that friendly audiences only are invited, vetted and granted permission to attend appearances.  How many times have we seen GW set up by a &#8220;plant&#8221; in the audience?  (Not that he doesn&#8217;t proceed to make a public fool of himself despite the aid.)<br />
Recall the set up of the six soldiers a year or two ago &#8211; where the questions from soldiers in the field were scripted and rehearsed.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4137492', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Were it not for the fact that Hillary is quite likely going to be the next President, Iâ€™d agree with this law. The Clintons are not safely in the past any longer.

Comment by Keltoi â€” October 29, 2007 @ 2:10 pm

Because there&#039;s a chance that Hillary may be the President in 2009, let&#039;s blame everything that&#039;s happened the last 7 years on her.  The mind of a troll is truly an enigma, wrapped in mystery, shrouded in delusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were it not for the fact that Hillary is quite likely going to be the next President, Iâ€™d agree with this law. The Clintons are not safely in the past any longer.</p>
<p>Comment by Keltoi â€” October 29, 2007 @ 2:10 pm</p>
<p>Because there&#8217;s a chance that Hillary may be the President in 2009, let&#8217;s blame everything that&#8217;s happened the last 7 years on her.  The mind of a troll is truly an enigma, wrapped in mystery, shrouded in delusion.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4137490', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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