Comments on: Former Employee Identifies Voting Rights Head As ‘Both The Cause And Effect’ Of DoJ Politicization http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:12:39 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: sjh http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-4140543 sjh Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:27:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/#comment-4140543 Instead of a troll-led debate on the validity on their righteous view, I wish we could discuss the bravery of Toby Moore and his testimony on a 'wounded institution.' He spoke 'truth to power' and should be commended for his courage. Takes guts to tell it like it is... Instead of a troll-led debate on the validity on their righteous view, I wish we could discuss the bravery of Toby Moore and his testimony on a ‘wounded institution.’ He spoke ‘truth to power’ and should be commended for his courage. Takes guts to tell it like it is…

]]> By: hterrya http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-4140445 hterrya Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:04:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/#comment-4140445 Shadow, <strong>PLEASE</strong> don't feed the troll. <strong>Report</strong> him for abuse! It is our <strong>ONLY</strong> defense against its troll dung! Shadow, PLEASE don’t feed the troll.

Report him for abuse! It is our ONLY defense against its troll dung!

]]> By: The Shadow http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-4140055 The Shadow Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:18:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/#comment-4140055 Reply to Comment #1 by Roger Roger. As usual Roger uses this site to spread the racist bigoted views of people like him and the Republican party. I have no problem with showing ID to vote, but when it is used as a means of discouraging minority voters, then it's wrong. What are you and your Klan brothers afraid of Roger? Is it the fact that in the next 20 years, whites will no longer be the majority in the US? Or is it the probability that we might elect someone to the Presidency that isn't a white male? This country isn't made up of just white males, so why should they continue to have a lock on the Presidency. What people like you don't understand is how many black soldiers have died in American Wars fighting for your right to discriminate against them. I fought for your right to hate too, but you think it's ok to treat me as a third class citizen. Well my racist friend, I'm not going anywhere and people like you might as well get ready to change places with us. You have one of two choices, either start having babies at an alarming rate, or prepare to become a minority. Then we will see how you react to a Latino-Black-Oriental majority in the United States. Your other option is moving out of the country, which you might prefer over living as a minority. Reply to Comment #1 by Roger Roger. As usual Roger uses this site to spread the racist bigoted views of people like him and the Republican party. I have no problem with showing ID to vote, but when it is used as a means of discouraging minority voters, then it’s wrong. What are you and your Klan brothers afraid of Roger? Is it the fact that in the next 20 years, whites will no longer be the majority in the US? Or is it the probability that we might elect someone to the Presidency that isn’t a white male? This country isn’t made up of just white males, so why should they continue to have a lock on the Presidency.

What people like you don’t understand is how many black soldiers have died in American Wars fighting for your right to discriminate against them. I fought for your right to hate too, but you think it’s ok to treat me as a third class citizen. Well my racist friend, I’m not going anywhere and people like you might as well get ready to change places with us. You have one of two choices, either start having babies at an alarming rate, or prepare to become a minority. Then we will see how you react to a Latino-Black-Oriental majority in the United States. Your other option is moving out of the country, which you might prefer over living as a minority.

]]> By: hterrya http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-4139844 hterrya Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:46:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/#comment-4139844 At Comment #1, a troll <strong>STOLE</strong> this thread. 39 posts, and not a <strong>ONE</strong> on <strong>John Tanner</strong>. The topic, folks, is DoJ politicization by John Tanner, a mole for the Republican Southern Strategy weaseled into the Voting Rights Section as its Chief, to cause <strong>MAXIMUM</strong> damage to the Voting Rights of <strong>ALL</strong> minorities, especially people of color. I have tagged the troll for abuse. <strong>Please, Please, Please!</strong> Go up to Comment #1 and tag the troll for abuse. Ask that he be removed from the TP site. He <strong>DETRACTS</strong> from <strong>EVERY</strong> thread where his troll name appears. If you feed him, he will do what he has done to this thread. <strong>HE WILL MAKE IT A TROLL-DUNG DUMP!</strong> At Comment #1, a troll STOLE this thread. 39 posts, and not a ONE on John Tanner.

The topic, folks, is DoJ politicization by John Tanner, a mole for the Republican Southern Strategy weaseled into the Voting Rights Section as its Chief, to cause MAXIMUM damage to the Voting Rights of ALL minorities, especially people of color.

I have tagged the troll for abuse. Please, Please, Please! Go up to Comment #1 and tag the troll for abuse. Ask that he be removed from the TP site. He DETRACTS from EVERY thread where his troll name appears.

If you feed him, he will do what he has done to this thread.

HE WILL MAKE IT A TROLL-DUNG DUMP!

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-4139742 Zooey Wed, 31 Oct 2007 04:04:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/#comment-4139742 <em>...the right to the ability to own property is still a protected right. Comment by toasterhead — October 30, 2007 @ 9:37 pm</em> There ya go. ;) …the right to the ability to own property is still a protected right.
Comment by toasterhead — October 30, 2007 @ 9:37 pm

There ya go. ;)

]]> By: toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-4139529 toasterhead Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:37:13 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/#comment-4139529 <i>Well, it is if you go by the Declaration of Independence. It’s one of the unalienable ones, I believe. But then at the time it only applied to white men, so this should be taken with a grain of salt. Comment by toasterhead — October 30, 2007 @ 9:11 pm</i> Okay FINE so Jefferson replaced it with "the pursuit if happiness" in the final draft but nevertheless property rights are a critical part of the Lockesian principles upon which this country was based. And the 5th Amendment guarantees that no individual may be deprived of property without due process of law. So while it may not be an entitlement right in the sense that voting is a right guaranteed to all citizens, the right to the ability to own property is still a protected right. Well, it is if you go by the Declaration of Independence. It’s one of the unalienable ones, I believe. But then at the time it only applied to white men, so this should be taken with a grain of salt.

Comment by toasterhead — October 30, 2007 @ 9:11 pm

Okay FINE so Jefferson replaced it with “the pursuit if happiness” in the final draft but nevertheless property rights are a critical part of the Lockesian principles upon which this country was based. And the 5th Amendment guarantees that no individual may be deprived of property without due process of law. So while it may not be an entitlement right in the sense that voting is a right guaranteed to all citizens, the right to the ability to own property is still a protected right.

]]> By: toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-4139500 toasterhead Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:16:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/#comment-4139500 <i>Showing ID to vote isn’t the issue here. it’s placing difficult restrictions on the ID type in order to deny a certain class of people the right to vote that is the issue. Comment by Lefty Patriot — October 30, 2007 @ 6:46 pm</i> Exactly. It's just Jim Crow laws for the 21st century, with a sprinkle of Know-Nothing xenophobia on top for flavor. Showing ID to vote isn’t the issue here. it’s placing difficult restrictions on the ID type in order to deny a certain class of people the right to vote that is the issue.

Comment by Lefty Patriot — October 30, 2007 @ 6:46 pm

Exactly. It’s just Jim Crow laws for the 21st century, with a sprinkle of Know-Nothing xenophobia on top for flavor.

]]> By: toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-4139491 toasterhead Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:11:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/#comment-4139491 <i>Owning property is not a right. Comment by Zooey — October 30, 2007 @ 7:01 pm</i> Well, it is if you go by the Declaration of Independence. It's one of the unalienable ones, I believe. But then at the time it only applied to white men, so this should be taken with a grain of salt. Owning property is not a right.

Comment by Zooey — October 30, 2007 @ 7:01 pm

Well, it is if you go by the Declaration of Independence. It’s one of the unalienable ones, I believe. But then at the time it only applied to white men, so this should be taken with a grain of salt.

]]> By: StratRat http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-4139301 StratRat Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:03:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/#comment-4139301 <em>Guess what the Department Of Motor Vehicles wanted to see when I went there to title my car. The fascists made me show ID. Comment by jdc</em> Again, mixing and matching references. Nice try, though. Guess what the Department Of Motor Vehicles wanted to see when I went there to title my car.

The fascists made me show ID.

Comment by jdc

Again, mixing and matching references. Nice try, though.

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-4139295 Zooey Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:01:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/#comment-4139295 Comment by jdc — October 30, 2007 @ 6:05 pm Owning property is not a right. Comment by jdc — October 30, 2007 @ 6:05 pm

Owning property is not a right.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-4139270 Lefty Patriot Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:46:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/#comment-4139270 showing ID to vote isn't the issue here. it's placing difficult restrictions on teh ID type in order to deny a certain class of people the right to vote that is the issue. this is what Republicans do: they trash the Constitution and treat American citizens illegally in order to gain the margins that they would otherwise never get, because the country as a whole hates them, and understands that they are greedy, harmful, parasitical, unpatriotic, violent, ignorant, racist, misogynistic homophobes. They HAVE to cheat, or they would cease to exist. showing ID to vote isn’t the issue here. it’s placing difficult restrictions on teh ID type in order to deny a certain class of people the right to vote that is the issue. this is what Republicans do: they trash the Constitution and treat American citizens illegally in order to gain the margins that they would otherwise never get, because the country as a whole hates them, and understands that they are greedy, harmful, parasitical, unpatriotic, violent, ignorant, racist, misogynistic homophobes. They HAVE to cheat, or they would cease to exist.

]]> By: Jeannie See http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-4139261 Jeannie See Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:40:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/#comment-4139261 <blockquote><i>Republican, public school and yes owning property is a right. The bank does not own my house. Even when I had a mortgage, the bank still didn’t own my house. Let me guess progressive liberal, poor and bitter. Comment by jdc — October 30, 2007 @ 6:31 pm</i></blockquote> Must. Not. Feed. Troll.

Republican, public school and yes owning property is a right. The bank does not own my house. Even when I had a mortgage, the bank still didn’t own my house.

Let me guess progressive liberal, poor and bitter.

Comment by jdc — October 30, 2007 @ 6:31 pm

Must. Not. Feed. Troll.

]]> By: Jeannie See http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-4139248 Jeannie See Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:36:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/#comment-4139248 Here in Florida we have to show our Drivers License in order to vote. That's to make sure that your address matches the voter roll and that you are voting in the right place. My Husband and I had to show our Drivers Licenses when we purchased our house a couple of months ago but that was because the papers had to be notorized and the notary didn't know us from Adam. Here in Florida we have to show our Drivers License in order to vote. That’s to make sure that your address matches the voter roll and that you are voting in the right place.

My Husband and I had to show our Drivers Licenses when we purchased our house a couple of months ago but that was because the papers had to be notorized and the notary didn’t know us from Adam.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-4139247 Lefty Patriot Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:35:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/#comment-4139247 Republican, public school and yes owning property is a right. The bank does not own my house. Even when I had a mortgage, the bank still didn’t own my house. Let me guess progressive liberal, poor and bitter. Comment by jdc — October 30, 2007 @ 6:31 pm well, wrong again. The bank owns your house until your mortgage is paid off. The bank will take your house under any number of pretenses, and you can do nothing. So, once again, stupid, you are wrong. As you are so completely wrong about me. You are very good at being wrong; that's what a lifetime of practice will get you. You poor, deluded fool, living in fantasy-land. and owning property is not a right. wrong again. Republican, public school and yes owning property is a right. The bank does not own my house. Even when I had a mortgage, the bank still didn’t own my house.

Let me guess progressive liberal, poor and bitter.

Comment by jdc — October 30, 2007 @ 6:31 pm

well, wrong again. The bank owns your house until your mortgage is paid off. The bank will take your house under any number of pretenses, and you can do nothing. So, once again, stupid, you are wrong. As you are so completely wrong about me. You are very good at being wrong; that’s what a lifetime of practice will get you. You poor, deluded fool, living in fantasy-land.

and owning property is not a right. wrong again.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-4139214 Lefty Patriot Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:23:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/#comment-4139214 Google ACORN if you want a peek into why we need voter identification. Comment by jdc — October 30, 2007 @ 6:22 pm bullshit Google ACORN if you want a peek into why we need voter identification.

Comment by jdc — October 30, 2007 @ 6:22 pm

bullshit

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-4139206 Lefty Patriot Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:22:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/#comment-4139206 When I bought my house the fascist title company made me show my ID. Comment by jdc — October 30, 2007 @ 6:05 pm That's because the bank owns your house, not you. man, you're deeply stupid. I'm guessing Republican, private school. And since when is owning property a right? You sink lower into the muck of stupidity with every post, keep it up, soon you'll disappear altogether, finally bringing some improvement to the world. When I bought my house the fascist title company made me show my ID.

Comment by jdc — October 30, 2007 @ 6:05 pm

That’s because the bank owns your house, not you. man, you’re deeply stupid. I’m guessing Republican, private school. And since when is owning property a right? You sink lower into the muck of stupidity with every post, keep it up, soon you’ll disappear altogether, finally bringing some improvement to the world.

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-4139201 MapleStreet Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:20:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/#comment-4139201 Anyone else remember when the tinfoil hat club was against the Social Security number because that was the first step towards a national identity card (and the pre-trib rapture folks identified the SS number as the mark of the beast)? The Tinfoil hats were wrong. The Driver's License (under the new identification act) has become the national identity card. So there ???!? Add to this the way the Shrub mis-administration has used every trick in the book to datamine and use questionably obtained information to attack opponents. Anyone else remember when the tinfoil hat club was against the Social Security number because that was the first step towards a national identity card (and the pre-trib rapture folks identified the SS number as the mark of the beast)?

The Tinfoil hats were wrong. The Driver’s License (under the new identification act) has become the national identity card. So there ???!?

Add to this the way the Shrub mis-administration has used every trick in the book to datamine and use questionably obtained information to attack opponents.

]]> By: Xisithrus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-4139191 Xisithrus Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:17:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/#comment-4139191 Check this out Dave C...Ann 'caged' herself. http://www.democrats.com/coulter-election-fraud Check this out Dave C…Ann ‘caged’ herself.
http://www.democrats.com/coulter-election-fraud

]]> By: Doc Rock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-4139176 Doc Rock Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:12:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/#comment-4139176 Roger-Dodger, It is because of a long AND CONTINUING history of suppression of voting by minorities by racist thugs, perhaps you can't understand that either! Roger-Dodger, It is because of a long AND CONTINUING history of suppression of voting by minorities by racist thugs, perhaps you can’t understand that either!

]]> By: Xisithrus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-4139166 Xisithrus Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:08:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/30/tanner-moore/#comment-4139166 There must be some sort of voter validation in the U.S. right? Comment by Dave C — October 30, 2007 @ 6:00 pm Yes,we have voter registration. What the Rovians were doing, since Rove was a mailing list guru was send a card to the person on the voter registration rolls with a return receipt [proof of delivery] and if the person had moved they were taken off the roll not because they didn't have ID but because their ID didnt show that they had moved making the voter registration invalid. [voteer caging] When the person shows up to vote and shows their ID, with a wrong address, they are not allowed to vote. There must be some sort of voter validation in the U.S. right?

Comment by Dave C — October 30, 2007 @ 6:00 pm

Yes,we have voter registration. What the Rovians were doing, since Rove was a mailing list guru was send a card to the person on the voter registration rolls with a return receipt [proof of delivery] and if the person had moved they were taken off the roll not because they didn’t have ID but because their ID didnt show that they had moved making the voter registration invalid. [voteer caging] When the person shows up to vote and shows their ID, with a wrong address, they are not allowed to vote.

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