Comments on: Gillespie Claims ‘We Don’t Know’ Whether The Bush Administration Practices Waterboarding http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:34:40 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: AtomicWarBaby http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/comment-page-3/#comment-4142416 AtomicWarBaby Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:54:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/#comment-4142416 Eric Prince, the right-wing fundamentalist Blackwater buddy of Pres. Bush, promised to bring him the Head of Osama Bin Laden in a Box. So much for "Christian" values. Pres. Bush & his supposedly "Christian" base are O.K. with Torture, which is weirdly ironic, since Jesus Christ, their "Savior" was tortured to death. You'd think they would be against torture, but they seem to revel in it, drool with anticipation & glee that a human being is being tortured. Someone should ask them: Would "Simulated Crucifixion" be okay as a form of Interrogation? We could line up Crosses along all the roads leading to Baghdad. That would teach those durn A'rabs! "Offensive acts come back upon the evildoer, like dust that is thrown against the wind." --- Buddha Eric Prince, the right-wing fundamentalist Blackwater buddy of Pres. Bush, promised to bring him the Head of Osama Bin Laden in a Box. So much for “Christian” values.

Pres. Bush & his supposedly “Christian” base are O.K. with Torture, which is weirdly ironic, since Jesus Christ, their “Savior” was tortured to death. You’d think they would be against torture, but they seem to revel in it, drool with anticipation & glee that a human being is being tortured.

Someone should ask them: Would “Simulated Crucifixion” be okay as a form of Interrogation? We could line up Crosses along all the roads leading to Baghdad. That would teach those durn A’rabs!

“Offensive acts come back upon the evildoer, like dust that is thrown against the wind.” — Buddha

]]> By: RichM http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/comment-page-3/#comment-4142259 RichM Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:20:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/#comment-4142259 Waterboard Gillespie tll he tells the truth. Waterboard Gillespie tll he tells the truth.

]]> By: Dave C http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/comment-page-3/#comment-4141591 Dave C Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:18:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/#comment-4141591 "It's a sad day in America when the nominee for attorney general cannot flatly declare that waterboarding is unconstitutional. Waterboarding has been prosecuted in U.S. courts since the late 1800s and was regarded by every U.S. administration before this one as torture." - Washington Post “It’s a sad day in America when the nominee for attorney general cannot flatly declare that waterboarding is unconstitutional. Waterboarding has been prosecuted in U.S. courts since the late 1800s and was regarded by every U.S. administration before this one as torture.” – Washington Post

]]> By: Bad Eye http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/comment-page-3/#comment-4141497 Bad Eye Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:16:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/#comment-4141497 I'd also be interested to know if Bigfoot thinks it's OK for foreign governments to indefinitely hold our captured troops in prison, refuse to tell them why they are being detained, and then put them on trial and withhold evidence from them. Our President thinks it would be a great day for the world. I’d also be interested to know if Bigfoot thinks it’s OK for foreign governments to indefinitely hold our captured troops in prison, refuse to tell them why they are being detained, and then put them on trial and withhold evidence from them.

Our President thinks it would be a great day for the world.

]]> By: Bad Eye http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/comment-page-3/#comment-4141494 Bad Eye Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:12:38 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/#comment-4141494 <em>There is a difference between what “feels” like torture, and actual torture. Just check with our middle eastern allies, and enemies, for visible differences. Comment by O. Bigfoot — November 1, 2007 @ 12:05 pm</em> Reading many of your comments, there's also a difference between what looks like intelligence, and actual intelligence. There is a difference between what “feels” like torture, and actual torture. Just check with our middle eastern allies, and enemies, for visible differences.

Comment by O. Bigfoot — November 1, 2007 @ 12:05 pm

Reading many of your comments, there’s also a difference between what looks like intelligence, and actual intelligence.

]]> By: Bad Eye http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/comment-page-3/#comment-4141482 Bad Eye Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:08:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/#comment-4141482 <em>Gillespie also tried to insist that waterboarding is legal, claiming that “those who have been briefed on the program in the United States Senate, members of the Intelligence Committee and others who are familiar with the program, have said that it is legal.”</em> Let me guess...8 members of the Senate who are sworn to secrecy. Right? Gillespie also tried to insist that waterboarding is legal, claiming that “those who have been briefed on the program in the United States Senate, members of the Intelligence Committee and others who are familiar with the program, have said that it is legal.”

Let me guess…8 members of the Senate who are sworn to secrecy.

Right?

]]> By: Dave C http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/comment-page-3/#comment-4141356 Dave C Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:06:13 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/#comment-4141356 Bigfoot, do you support the use of waterboarding on U.S. troops held by other countries? Bigfoot, do you support the use of waterboarding on U.S. troops held by other countries?

]]> By: texaslady http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/comment-page-3/#comment-4141255 texaslady Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:08:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/#comment-4141255 #98 Again until you have endured any violent act do not suppose what is torture or not torture. #98 Again until you have endured any violent act do not suppose what is torture or not torture.

]]> By: texaslady http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/comment-page-3/#comment-4141246 texaslady Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:03:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/#comment-4141246 #95 Our military has completed every CHANGING goal that Bush has set out. So we have "won". Because there are more terrorist than ever before is not our military's fault. We invaded a nation, they are fighting back. We need to defend our borders which is not Iraq and Iran, it is Mexico, Canada and all access to water. The crap about fighting over there to not have to fight here, well how about the years between 1993 and 2001 with no terrorist attacks on American soil ? It is very easy to discount torture unless you or someone you know has been through it, I suggest you talk with real people before declaring waterboarding is fun. #95 Our military has completed every CHANGING goal that Bush has set out. So we have “won”. Because there are more terrorist than ever before is not our military’s fault. We invaded a nation, they are fighting back. We need to defend our borders which is not Iraq and Iran, it is Mexico, Canada and all access to water.

The crap about fighting over there to not have to fight here, well how about the years between 1993 and 2001 with no terrorist attacks on American soil ?

It is very easy to discount torture unless you or someone you know has been through it, I suggest you talk with real people before declaring waterboarding is fun.

]]> By: texaslady http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/comment-page-3/#comment-4141241 texaslady Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:57:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/#comment-4141241 Remember when a young girl asked Bush why America tortures and his very curt reply was, "we don't torture." Bush sticks to if I say it over and over it makes it the truth. How about Mukasy getting a taste of waterboarding and then ask him if he feels it is torture. Remember when a young girl asked Bush why America tortures and his very curt reply was, “we don’t torture.” Bush sticks to if I say it over and over it makes it the truth.

How about Mukasy getting a taste of waterboarding and then ask him if he feels it is torture.

]]> By: SeigHeil http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/comment-page-3/#comment-4141209 SeigHeil Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:25:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/#comment-4141209 This is nothing. In a very short time, the world will be informed of the far, far worse torture techniques being carried on by the Bush administration, with the cooperation of numerous state governments, law firms, agencies, and politicians, Democrat and Republican alike, to torture American citizens considered to be sub-human animals with no rights other than to suffer and die: i.e., 'psychopaths' and 'sexual perverts' or offenders. This is Naziism at its worst, and it is what the Bush administration truly fears accountability for. The lobotomy is back, and it is being performed involuntarily on American citizens considered sub-human by forensic psychologists. This is nothing. In a very short time, the world will be informed of the far, far worse torture techniques being carried on by the Bush administration, with the cooperation of numerous state governments, law firms, agencies, and politicians, Democrat and Republican alike, to torture American citizens considered to be sub-human animals with no rights other than to suffer and die: i.e., ‘psychopaths’ and ’sexual perverts’ or offenders. This is Naziism at its worst, and it is what the Bush administration truly fears accountability for. The lobotomy is back, and it is being performed involuntarily on American citizens considered sub-human by forensic psychologists.

]]> By: joe cantwell http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/comment-page-3/#comment-4141130 joe cantwell Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:51:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/#comment-4141130 everyone in this administration is like sgt. shultz; they see nothing, nothing! everyone in this administration is like sgt. shultz; they see nothing, nothing!

]]> By: smgumby http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/comment-page-3/#comment-4141121 smgumby Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:46:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/#comment-4141121 Do you think if Gillespie was waterboarded we could get him to admit it is torture? If it is not torture, then simply doing it to members of the government who deny it is torture would not be wrong.... ...right? Do you think if Gillespie was waterboarded we could get him to admit it is torture?

If it is not torture, then simply doing it to members of the government who deny it is torture would not be wrong…. …right?

]]> By: tarazan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/comment-page-3/#comment-4141118 tarazan Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:44:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/#comment-4141118 #89..Cepan wrote..."Al Qaeda in Iraq is defeated...". Ref. Shiek Omar Al Jabouri statement. But there was no Al-Qaeda in Iraq to begin with, until we went and invaded Iraq in 2003. Al-Qaeda by best estimate does not represent more than 5% of total militias fighting us in Iraq. What about the Iraqis Sunnis militias,the ex-Bathists, the Shiite militias...? Cepan: Can our troops come home now..since there is no Al Qaeda or WMDS in Iraq..and saddam is no longer there..? #89..Cepan wrote…”Al Qaeda in Iraq is defeated…”. Ref. Shiek Omar Al Jabouri statement.

But there was no Al-Qaeda in Iraq to begin with, until we went and invaded Iraq in 2003.
Al-Qaeda by best estimate does not represent more than 5% of total militias fighting us in Iraq.
What about the Iraqis Sunnis militias,the ex-Bathists, the Shiite militias…?

Cepan:

Can our troops come home now..since there is no Al Qaeda or WMDS in Iraq..and saddam is no longer there..?

]]> By: Russ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/comment-page-3/#comment-4141108 Russ Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:34:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/#comment-4141108 cepan, As to the lower bodies found in Baghdad, couldn't it be, as an government expert has recently pointed out, because the ethnic cleansing is almost completed? Also, did you know we have a new strategy, fewer use of troops and more bomb on villages? cepan,

As to the lower bodies found in Baghdad, couldn’t it be, as an government expert has recently pointed out, because the ethnic cleansing is almost completed? Also, did you know we have a new strategy, fewer use of troops and more bomb on villages?

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/comment-page-3/#comment-4141089 MapleStreet Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:09:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/#comment-4141089 Funny how these creeps bashed the hell out of President Clinton because he got caught lying about an affair, yet here they are, the “holier then thou club” splitting hairs with their “what the meaning of is, is” obfuscations. #12 OxyCon But OxyCon, Clinton was a heterosexual affair. The Repubs are talking about WMDs that don't exist and Toe Tapping in Restrooms. Funny how these creeps bashed the hell out of President Clinton because he got caught lying about an affair, yet here they are, the “holier then thou club” splitting hairs with their “what the meaning of is, is” obfuscations.
#12 OxyCon

But OxyCon, Clinton was a heterosexual affair. The Repubs are talking about WMDs that don’t exist and Toe Tapping in Restrooms.

]]> By: celtic cynic http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/comment-page-3/#comment-4141052 celtic cynic Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:44:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/#comment-4141052 Methinks experiments with waterboarding, or whatever they want to call it, should be conducted on Ed Gillespie, Michael Mukasey, Alberto Gonzalez, George Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Dana Perino and all the other class clowns. Live TV would be nice, but I'd settle for reruns. Methinks experiments with waterboarding, or whatever they want to call it, should be conducted on Ed Gillespie, Michael Mukasey, Alberto Gonzalez, George Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Dana Perino and all the other class clowns.
Live TV would be nice, but I’d settle for reruns.

]]> By: lefty http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/comment-page-3/#comment-4141049 lefty Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:41:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/#comment-4141049 I bet he doesn't know if Ken Mehlman is gay either. I bet he doesn’t know if Ken Mehlman is gay either.

]]> By: Russ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/comment-page-3/#comment-4141036 Russ Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:33:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/#comment-4141036 KSM's confessions from waterboarding are not reliable and have for the most part been proven B.S. KSM’s confessions from waterboarding are not reliable and have for the most part been proven B.S.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/comment-page-3/#comment-4141033 Lefty Patriot Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:31:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/10/31/gillespie-waterboard/#comment-4141033 Cepan, how's that 24% working out for you? Get used to it, you're in the minority now, and will stay there forever. Cepan, how’s that 24% working out for you? Get used to it, you’re in the minority now, and will stay there forever.

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