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Giuliani’s dream VP: Dick Cheney.

By Amanda Terkel on Nov 2nd, 2007 at 6:00 pm

Giuliani’s dream VP: Dick Cheney.

In a radio interview with “The Big Picture on the Radio Show” on South Carolina’s ETV Radio, Rudy Giuliani talked about how he plans to choose his vice president:

cheneyyan.jpg I would want a vice president who was a partner. Someone who was in on everything that was going on, so that that person could take over if, God forbid, something happened. [...]

How do you pick a vice president? … I think Vice President Cheney and President Bush’s pick of Vice President Cheney is a good example of picking someone who is qualified to be president of the United States. That is number one — it’s paramount.

(HT: Rumproast)

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49 Responses to “Giuliani’s dream VP: Dick Cheney.”

  1. jonny says:

    Judy is stark, staring bugshit. Besides, Deadeye Dick picked himself as VP.


  2. plunger says:

    Cheney was in the Washington bunker, while Bush was at the school. He was in command. Scholars for 911 Truth point out

    http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/

    that Secretary of Transportation, Mineta Confirm this. Others point out he was also conducting numerous military drills that day that did confuse land workers.

    Mineta’s testimony is devastating,” observed James H. Fetzer, Ph.D., McKnight Professor at the University of Minnesota. Fetzer is the founder and co-chair of the scholars’ society, which recently joined with Judicial Watch in calling for release of documents, films and videos, and physical evidence withheld from the public by the administration. “It pulls the plug on the Commission’s contention there was no advance warning that the Pentagon was going to be hit.”

    According to Secretary Mineta’s testimony, which is in the public domain, when he (Mineta) arrived at an underground bunker at the White House (known as the Presidential Emergency Operations Center), the Vice President was in charge. “During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon”, he stated, “there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, ‘The plane is 50 miles out.’ ‘The plane is 30 miles out.’

    “And when it got down to, ‘The plane is 10 miles out,’” Mineta continued, “the young man also said to the Vice President, ‘Do the orders still stand?’ And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, ‘Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?’” One way to construe these remarks could be that the orders were to shoot down the plane.

    The scholars suggest that that is an implausible interpretation. The Pentagon, they observe, may be the most heavily defended building in the world. If the orders had been to “shoot it down,” then no doubt it would have been shot down. Moreover, there would have been no apparent reason for the young man to have expressed concern over whether or not “the orders still stand.” Shooting it down, under the circumstances, would have been the thing to do.

    “The only reasonable interpretation of the orders,” Fetzer observed, “is that the incoming aircraft should not be shot down, which would have been an obvious source of anxiety for an aide. Since it contradicts the official story about the Pentagon,” he added, “it had to be suppressed and was not even included in The 9/11 Commission Report.” And other scholars, including Professor David Ray Griffin of Claremont Graduate University, have drawn the same conclusion.


  3. hellinabucket says:

    Cheney picked himself.


  4. plunger says:

    That story about Halliburton acquiring the asbestos liabilities of Dresser Industries raises an interesting point…

    Cheney KNEW that Dresser had the most massive liability issue on planet earth (he had to have known) yet decided to pay good money to bring Dresser’s problems under Halliburton’s tent.

    This raises the question…who were the largest shareholders of Dresser – in need of a lifeboat to save their own personal bacon? Anyone named Bush? Anyone named Carlyle?

    The deal went like this:

    Cheney agrees for Halliburton to take on the Dresser asbestos liability.

    It is determined that Bush and Cheney will be (s)elected, and that the PNAC plan will be implemented – using 9/11 as the essential pretext.

    Ken Lay plays his role using his Enron smoke and mirrors tactics to create a faux energy crisis in California, causing the public to demand an energy-savvy administration be elected.

    With the asbestos liability and other matters hanging in the balance, the election of 2000 simply had to be rigged in order for the plan to go in to effect.

    Following the appointment of Bush and Cheney, the secret energy planning meeting established which oil companies would reap the rewards of the pending invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran.

    The timing and the pretext were predetermined, and 9/11 was greenlighted for 9/11/2001. Cheney outsourced the implementation to Mossad, and ran the show from his bunker on D Day under the cover of preplanned drills simulating the exact attack that was proscribed, with NORAD as coconspirator. At least 50 administration officials and countless foreign agents were in on it.

    Once the entire charade was concluded, the Administration generally, and Cheney specifically, had every reason in the world to blame Iraq.

    The Afghanistan mission could not provide Halliburton with enough revenue to offset the massive asbestos liability claim. Iraq and Iran are essential wars in order to provide cover for the infusion of the billion of TAX DOLLARS necessary to both profit Halliburton for its actual work AND cover the massive asbestos liability claims.

    Now you know why Halliburton was awarded the contracts without the need to bid for them. This was all prearranged.

    NOTE: Private enterprise pushed its legal/financial obligations onto tax payers using war as the excuse.

    The asbestos liability claims of Dresser Industries were ultimately paid by you and me, and our troops in the field, all to ensure that the investors in Dresser didn’t take the multibillion dollar loss.

    Just one piece of a very large chessboard.

    Hang them for TREASON.


  5. plunger says:

    Merger with Halliburton

    In 1998, Dresser merged with its main rival, Halliburton, and is now known as Halliburton Company. Dick Cheney negotiated the $7.7-billion deal, reportedly having done so during a weekend of quail-hunting. In 2001, Halliburton was forced to settle the asbestos lawsuits that it acquired as a result of purchasing Dresser, causing the company’s stock price to fall by eighty percent in just over a year.

    The New Dresser
    On 10 April 2001 the Dresser division (excluding the former Kellogg division) entered an agreement to separate itself once again from Halliburton by management purchasing its equity, the new company to be called Dresser, Inc.

    The new Dresser is 90% owned by First Reserve Corporation (U.S. based investment firm). It is planning a new IPO for the summer of 2005.

    Dresser, Inc. sells, services, and supports products that include: actuators, valves, meters, instruments, regulators, switches, natural gas fueled engines, piping specialties, retail fuel dispensers, blowers, and outdoor payment and point-of-sale systems.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dresser_Industries

    Halliburton Iraq ties more than Cheney said
    NewsMax Wires
    Monday, June 25, 2001
    UNITED NATIONS, June 23 (UPI) — Halliburton Co., the oil company that was headed by Vice President Dick Cheney, signed contracts with Iraq worth $73 million through two subsidiaries while he was at its helm, the Washington Post reported.

    During last year’s presidential campaign, Cheney said Halliburton did business with Libya and Iran through foreign subsidiaries, but maintained he had imposed a “firm policy” against trading with Iraq.

    “Iraq’s different,” the Post quoted him as saying.

    Oil industry executives and confidential U.N. records showed, however, that Halliburton held stakes in two companies that signed contracts to sell more than $73 million in oil production equipment and spare parts to Iraq while Cheney was chairman and chief executive officer, the Post reported.

    Two former senior executives of the Halliburton subsidiaries said they knew of no policy against dealing with Iraq. One of them said he was certain Cheney knew about the deals, though he had never spoken about them to the vice president directly.

    If he “was ever in a conversation or meeting where there was a question of pursuing a project with someone in Iraq, he said, ‘No,’ ” Mary Matalin, Cheney’s counselor, said.

    “In a joint venture, he would not have reviewed all their existing contracts,” Matalin told the Post. “The nature of those joint ventures was that they had a separate governing structure, so he had no control over them.”

    The deal was legal, the Post said, and they showed how U.S. firms use foreign subsidiaries and joint ventures to avoid doing business with Baghdad. The practice is not a violation of U.S. law and falls within the U.N.-run oil-for-food program.

    The Post said U.N. records showed that the dealings were more extensive than originally reported and than Cheney had acknowledged, however.

    According to the report, the Halliburton subsidiaries, Dresser-Rand and Ingersoll Dresser Pump Co., sold material to Baghdad through French affiliates. The sales lasted from the first half of 1997 to the summer of 2000. Cheney resigned from Halliburton in August.

    “Halliburton and Ingersoll-Rand, as far as I know, had no official policy about that, other than we would be in compliance with applicable U.S. and international laws,” said Cleive Dumas, who oversaw Ingersoll Dresser Pump’s business in the Middle East, including Iraq.

    Cheney’s spokeswoman, Juleanna Glover Weiss, referred the Post’s calls to Halliburton, which in turn, directed them back to Cheney’s office.

    In a July 30, 2000, interview on ABC-TV’s “This Week,” Cheney denied that Halliburton or its subsidiaries traded with Baghdad. Three weeks later, on the same program, he modified his response after being informed that a Halliburton spokesman had said that Dresser Rand and Ingersoll Dresser Pump traded with Iraq.

    Cheney said he did not know the subsidiaries were doing business with the Iraqi regime when Halliburton purchased Dresser Industries in September 1998.

    The firms traded with Iraq for more than a year under Cheney, however. They signed nearly $30 million in contracts before he sold Halliburton’s 49 percent stake in Ingersoll Dresser Pump Co. in December 1999 and its 51 percent interest in Dresser Rand to Ingersoll-Rand in February 2000, the Post quoted U.N. records as saying.

    Cheney has long criticized of unilateral U.S. sanctions, which he says penalize American companies. He has pushed for a review of policy toward Iraq, Iran and Libya.

    Copyright 2001 by United Press International.

    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/6/24/80648.shtml


  6. Fan of Man says:

    cheney vp again?

    R – O – T – F – L – M – A – O – !

    please run with him you crazy transvestite.


  7. Hank says:

  8. VerbalKint says:

    Rudy isn’t going to win many voters with that one.


  9. plunger says:

    ASBESTOS & 9/11

    The WTC was a $15 billion HALLIBURTON liability.

    There’s more. You see, the World Trade Towers were not the real estate plum we are led to believe. From an economic standpoint, the trade center — subsidized since its inception by the NY Port Authority — has never functioned, nor was it intended to function, unprotected in the rough-and-tumble real estate marketplace. How could Silverstein Group have been ignorant of this?

    The towers required some $200 million in renovations and improvements, most of which related to removal and replacement of building materials declared to be health hazards in the years since the towers were built. It was well-known by the city of New York that the WTC was an asbestos bombshell. For years, the Port Authority treated the building like an aging dinosaur, attempting on several occasions to get permits to demolish the building for liability reasons, but being turned down due the known asbestos problem. Further, it was well-known the only reason the building was still standing until 9/11 was because it was too costly to disassemble the twin towers floor by floor since the Port Authority was prohibited legally from demolishing the buildings.

    The projected cost to disassemble the towers: $15 Billion. Just the scaffolding for the operation was estimated at $2.4 Billion!

    In other words, the Twin Towers were condemned structures. How convenient that an unexpected “terrorist” attack demolished the buildings completely.

    WTC Building 7 was a part of the WTC complex, and covered under the same insurance policy. This 47-story steel-framed structure, which was NOT struck by an aircraft, mysteriously collapsed 8 hours later that same day into its own footprint at freefall speed – exactly in the manner of the Twin Towers.

    WTC 7 collapsed at 5:20pm

    http://wtc7.net
    http://911review.com

    How could this have happened? Mr. Silverstein gave the world the answer when he slipped up during a PBS television interview a year later, on 9/11/2002:

    “I remember getting a call from the…er…fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, ‘We’ve had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.’ And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse.”

    WOW, WHAT A COINCIDENCE!

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329&q=silverstein&hl=en

    WOW, WHAT A COINCIDENCE!

    As anyone who knows anything about construction can tell you, “Pull” is common industry jargon for a controlled demolition.

    One thing is for sure, the decision to ‘pull’ WTC 7 would have delighted many people. Especially because it has been reported that thousands of sensitive files relating to some of the biggest financial scams in history – including Enron and WorldCom — were stored in the offices of some of the building’s tenant.

    Inside WTC 7 was the US Secret Service’s largest field office with more than 200 employees. “All the evidence that we stored at 7 World Trade, in all our cases, went down with the building,” according to US Secret Service Special Agent David Curran.

    What a neat, complete, and fortuitous turn of events was 9/11.

    Incidentally, it’s worth noting that one of Lucky Larry’s closest friends – a person with whom it’s said he speaks almost daily by phone – is none other than former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

    http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/09/07/18306895.php


  10. plunger says:

    Halliburton’s receipt of all the no-bid contracts was direct quid pro quo – highly illegal.

    When Cheney was the CEO, he acquired Dresser to save the Bush Family’s ass. Dresser made Asbestos, and the liability law suits were going to wipe them out. Cheney took one for the team when he acquired Dresser and all its asbestos liability claims (HAL was punished in the stock market)…the biggest of which was the WORLD TRADE CENTER, a $15 billion albatross that the Port Authority was hard pressed to get rid of.

    When the Port Authority unloaded the buildings onto Silverstein, the fix was already in. Cheney literally ran the entire operation on 9/11 (as witnessed by Mineta) and used Dov Zakheim’s SYSPLAN technology to guide the CONVERTED FUEL TANKERS to their targets (remember the huge fireball that exploded OUTSIDE the building?).

    It was Cheney who instructed Christine Todd Whitman to lie about the levels of asbestos at ground zero, because he didn’t want people to make the connection that the entire operation was simply arson on a grand scale, which eliminated a $15 billion liability from Halliburton’s books.

    Need more evidence of the quid pro quo?

    GW included the issue in his State of the Union speech in 2005.

    “To make our economy stronger and more competitive, America must reward, not punish, the efforts and dreams of entrepreneurs. Small business is the path of advancement, especially for women and minorities, so we must free small businesses from needless regulation and protect honest job-creators from junk lawsuits. (Applause.) Justice is distorted, and our economy is held back by irresponsible class-actions and frivolous asbestos claims — and I urge Congress to pass legal reforms this year.”


  11. plunger says:

    BUSH ORDERED THE LIE…

    PEOPLE ARE DYING:

    LEVELS OF ASBESTOS

    A statement about discovery of asbestos at higher than safe levels in dust samples from lower Manhattan was changed to state that “samples confirm previous reports that ambient air quality meets OSHA (Occupational Safety and Health Administration) standards and consequently is not a cause for public concern.”

    Language in an EPA draft stating that asbestos levels in some areas were three times higher than national standards was changed to “slightly above the 1 percent trigger for defining asbestos material.”

    This sentence was added to a Sept. 16 news release: “Our tests show that it is safe for New Yorkers to go back to work in New York’s financial district.” It replaced a statement that initial monitors failed to turn up dangerous samples.

    A warning on the importance of safely handling ground zero cleanup, due to lead and asbestos exposure, was changed to say that some contaminants had been noted downtown but “the general public should be very reassured by initial sampling.”

    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0823-03.htm

    COLLEGE STUDENTS DYING FROM INHALED ASBESTOS:

    http://www.bupipedream.com/pipeline_web/display_article.php?id=3259

    ALL SO HALLIBURTON COULD REMOVE THE WTC ASBESTOS LIABILITY FROM ITS BOOKS:

    The WTC was a $15 billion HALLIBURTON liability.


  12. Spudge Boy says:

    President Bush’s pick of Vice President Cheney

    Cheney picked himself you stupid fu*k. Bush didn’t have a say in who his VP would be.


  13. Marcus Aurelius says:

    So, Guilani would choose Putin as a running mate? Is that even legal?


  14. gummitch says:

    Wow. This quickly turned into a plunger spam thread, didn’t it?

    You’re a pain in the patoot, plunger. Why not give it a rest?


  15. gummitch says:

    So, Guilani would choose Putin as a running mate? Is that even legal?

    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — November 2, 2007 @ 6:20 pm

    Maybe not legal, but if the president does it . . . great catch, though. The authoritarian Republican party would love them some PutinPower.


  16. MWG says:

    I think the more comparisons that are drawn between Rudy and shrub, the fewer votes Rudy for prez will wind up getting..
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  17. Buckie Boy says:

    Darth Dick? The most criminal VP ever, is a good choice? I don’t think so, Rudy, oh forgot, you like criminals, my bad, carry on.

    Buck Fush


  18. SP Biloxi says:

    Giuliani’s wet dream VP: Dick Cheney. LOL! With Rudy’s cross-dressing, his pick can go either gender.


  19. Bad Eye says:

    Boiling down Rudi’s comment, it’s paramount to pick someone who is qualified to be president of the U.S.

    No sh*t, sherlock. Besides, I guess that rules you out, Rudi.


  20. Leftside Annie says:

    Good grief. I used to actually *like* Rudy Giuiliani…but he has made it abundantly clear that he’s every bit as batshit crazy as the batshit craziest neocon on the friggin’ planet.

    If not crazier. Y-I-K-E-S.


  21. pbg says:

    So Giuliani doesn’t really want to be President?


  22. Coffins Draped with a Flag says:

    Rudy won’t win the general election anyway. The Republicans will split their votes between the “Rudy Repulican” and the “Dobson Republican”. Just wait, there’s a new “party” just waiting to be born or should I say “born again” by the time of the general election.


  23. Uncle Ho says:

    See, Judy really IS batshit crazy.

    Mr. 5-deferment Dickhead Cheney is not only fat like Hermann Goering, but just as evil.


  24. Marcus Aurelius says:

    Cheney always manages to get the libs roiled; it’s as if they believe he has a weather machine or something.

    Cheney: Striking fear into liberal twatheads since 2001.

    Comment by Dig Dug — November 2, 2007 @ 6:50 pm

    Dude! You are so cool! Can I hang out with you?


  25. Uncle Ho says:

    OT- OK, you Reichwing Brownshirts, how do you want your crow? Raw, or with Tabasco sauce?

    Last week, Republicans blamed the California fires on America-haters, liberals, Democrats, Al Qaeda, tree-hugging environmentalists, little green men from Mars, and others.

    It was a 10-year old boy playing with matches. Apologise you neo-Nazi trolls and Gopers.


  26. VerbalKint says:

    just don’t hit on my dog this time.
    Comment by Dig Dug — November 2, 2007 @ 6:56 pm

    We all know how much trolls like to project.


  27. gummitch says:

    Ah, it must already be Friday night in Virginia and the trolls, entirely lacking in social lives, will be glued to their computers into the wee hours. After all, if you can’t get a date (even at a college with a 2:1 advantage for guys) you might as well get a little attention by posting moronic comments on a blog.


  28. Spudge Boy says:

    No we don’t, do tell.

    Comment by Dig Dug — November 2, 2007 @ 7:00 pm

    Yes we do. Go fu*k yourself.


  29. leftcoast says:

    Giuliani is Bush in Cheney clothing.


  30. leftcoast says:

    So would that mean Cheney is Giuliani in Bush clothing?

    Comment by Dig Dug — November 2, 2007 @ 7:12 pm
    No, they just share the same clothier.


  31. AustinSF says:

    All insiders say that the VP slot is a lock and going to x_RNC Chairmain/Governor Mississippi Haley Barbour (Cheney’s corrupt evil corrupt twin brother) – close enough – huh?

    2008 Republican ticket will be Giuliani-Barbour.

    BushCo still rules the party with an iron fist and this is the 2008 GOP ticket.


  32. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Looks like Rudy’s trying to guarantee himself that 26% of the country that adores Bush.


  33. leftcoast says:

    Austin-love Texas. Spent 12 years there. But, no one in their right mind would drink from the aquifer now tainted by the sludge flowing from Crawford.


  34. Marcus Aurelius says:

    Dude! You are so cool! Can I hang out with you?
    Comment by Marcus Aurelius — November 2, 2007 @ 6:54 pm

    Well…I guess so, just don’t hit on my dog this time.

    Comment by Dig Dug — November 2, 2007 @ 6:56 pm

    I only hit him once, and only with a rolled-up newspaper. Someone has to teach him that he’s supposed to lick his nuts – not yours.


  35. nwmuse says:

    This is a scary thought.. I know Bush can’t serve a 3rd term, but is it even possible for Cheney to be chosen as someone else’s VP? That will be my cue to move to another country.


  36. dixie blood says:

    Phuck Trudy Julie Annie!

    NYC is launching an investigation into this little pansy a$$ RePugniScum, facist piece of sh!t former mayor concerning the failed radios on 9/11 and the no-bid contract he signed with Motorola (scums) and the higher death rate amoung firemen vs. the policemen.

    His run for anything than avoiding jail is OVER!!!


  37. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Aw, this is just T/rudi’s way of letting us know who’ll be wearin’ the pants in the WH once he’s elected, and it won’t be T/rudi…


  38. Zooey says:

    I can’t find anything that says Cheney CAN’T be VP again. The 22nd Amendment does not apply. It looks like tradition is the only thing that has kept us from a perpetual VP — and we all know how devoted Cheney is to tradition. *spit*

    Now we know why the Cons are running Rudy the Idiot.


  39. pete says:

    Hi Zooey.

    Don’t forget. If George were to be killed in a “terrorist” attack; our next President will be “President for Life Cheney”. No need to distract him with pesky elections.

    Likely? No, but it’s all too possible.


  40. pete says:

    I can’t understand your glee over the rotating primaries. It sounds like a ploy to let the Supreme Court to choose our Prez. Again.

    Do you really want nine people to, potentially, overrule the will of the electorate?


  41. Zooey says:

    I’m thinking Giuliani/Jeb!
    Comment by TCDon — November 2, 2007 @ 11:41 pm

    Of course you are.

    Dipshit.


  42. Lefty Patriot says:

    the Dem. convention because Florida is having its primary earlier than Dean had attempted to dictate.

    Comment by TCDon — November 2, 2007 @ 11:41 pm

    so you still don’t know how the political system works, is that what you’re admitting, you idiot? You didn’t have to bother, you prove your rank ignorance with every post, you traitor.


  43. nwmuse says:

    Perhaps Giuliani will have Cheney pick HIS VP for him too.. (Wonder who that would be?)


  44. drtichy says:

    This would be the RUDIDICK team at the WH.

    Hey, presidents cannot be elected the third time. Only twice. S\Old Shrunk Dick has already been president twice. He is no longer eligible.

    (Pretending that Bush was the president… this is BUSHIT!!)


  45. dixie blood says:

    I can’t find anything that says Cheney CAN’T be VP again. The 22nd Amendment does not apply. It looks like tradition is the only thing that has kept us from a perpetual VP — and we all know how devoted Cheney is to tradition. *spit*

    Now we know why the Cons are running Rudy the Idiot.

    Comment by Zooey — November 2, 2007 @ 11:13 pm

    The best reason yet to impeach Dick(head) Cheney NOW!!!!!!! Are you listening Nancy PollLoser???


  46. Clumberfeet says:

    Giuliani, ‘Stay the course.’


  47. RUCerious says:

    How appropriate that Darth is wearing a stinkin’ yankee cap.
    Self appointed Veep in charge of puppeteering.


  48. dixie blood says:

    In the picture above you can’t see BOTH of Dick(head) Cheney’s hands…that means he’s working Trudy Julie Annie’s head with one of his hands stuck up Trudy Julie Annie’s A$$!!!


  49. Patriot says:

    That article says nothing. All Giuliani said was that he liked how President Bush picked his VP. He was just saying he wanted a VP that would be involved in everything. Stating what your looking for and giving a case example are not the same as naming a person you want.



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