Comments on: Chertoff Claims ‘Zero Tolerance’ For Discriminatory Halloween Costume, Excuses Julie Myers’ Role http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:23:51 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: AverageBro http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-4147931 AverageBro Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:29:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/#comment-4147931 Excellent take on this story that I'd encourage all of you to checkout here: http://www.averagebro.com/2007/11/i-blame-michael-richards.html Excellent take on this story that I’d encourage all of you to checkout here: http://www.averagebro.com/2007/11/i-blame-michael-richards.html

]]> By: Squeaky Wheels http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-4147837 Squeaky Wheels Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:31:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/#comment-4147837 That costume sounds pretty racially insensitive, but I don't see how it discriminated against anyone. That costume sounds pretty racially insensitive, but I don’t see how it discriminated against anyone.

]]> By: Max-1 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-4147520 Max-1 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:53:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/#comment-4147520 . #1... Because he is. ------------------------ It's only intolerance of bigotry when it's not your team. Otherwise, play on. . .

#1… Because he is.

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It’s only intolerance of bigotry when it’s not your team. Otherwise, play on.

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]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-4147513 Zooey Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:18:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/#comment-4147513 So what's it gonna be, Beaker? Zero tolerance. or tolerance? Sheesh... So what’s it gonna be, Beaker? Zero tolerance. or tolerance?

Sheesh…

]]> By: hterrya http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-4147510 hterrya Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:11:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/#comment-4147510 There have been 40 posts, and not a SINGLE Troll. As I type this, I get this cold feeling in my gut, afraid that I might JINX us and summon up a troll to harrass us. Of course, I am ready to hit the "Report Abuse" link if one of them should happen to slither in! Back to Topic: Even in the Reagan administration, this kind of outright discriminatory B.S. would never have been tolerated, and Ms. Meyers would already be GONE. I NEVER thought I would see the day! This current, corrupt, criminal administration makes Iran-gate-Meister Reagan look OK? Won't that GAG a maggot? There have been 40 posts, and not a SINGLE Troll. As I type this, I get this cold feeling in my gut, afraid that I might JINX us and summon up a troll to harrass us. Of course, I am ready to hit the “Report Abuse” link if one of them should happen to slither in!

Back to Topic: Even in the Reagan administration, this kind of outright discriminatory B.S. would never have been tolerated, and Ms. Meyers would already be GONE.

I NEVER thought I would see the day! This current, corrupt, criminal administration makes Iran-gate-Meister Reagan look OK?

Won’t that GAG a maggot?

]]> By: Buckie Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-4147479 Buckie Boy Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:58:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/#comment-4147479 They always cover for their own, it's not really a crime or anything if a repukian bush cultist does it. Most companies don't approve of croynisim, unlike fascist repukian lockstep brownshirter lemming pigs. Buck Fush They always cover for their own, it’s not really a crime or anything if a repukian bush cultist does it.

Most companies don’t approve of croynisim, unlike fascist repukian lockstep brownshirter lemming pigs.

Buck Fush

]]> By: kassandrasduplex http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-4147467 kassandrasduplex Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:25:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/#comment-4147467 Julie Myers walks scott free because she is a well conected crony. We are no longer living in a democratic meritocracy but an authoritarian oligarchy. The difference between the USA and Communist Russia, or China or most other authoritarian regimes is diminishing if not entirely gone. Julie Myers walks scott free because she is a well conected crony. We are no longer living in a democratic meritocracy but an authoritarian oligarchy. The difference between the USA and Communist Russia, or China or most other authoritarian regimes is diminishing if not entirely gone.

]]> By: kassandrasduplex http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-4147464 kassandrasduplex Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:20:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/#comment-4147464 Chertoff looks just like my imagination of Vlad Dracul the Impaler. Chertoff looks just like my imagination of Vlad Dracul the Impaler.

]]> By: Bluestocking http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-4147460 Bluestocking Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:59:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/#comment-4147460 Today, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff appeared on MSNBC and said that he had put the employee who wore the costume on “administrative leave.” He added that he has “zero tolerance” for discriminatory acts. But when it came to Myers, Chertoff refused to condemn her and indicated that she would face no punitive action... ****************************** All this does is prove that Chertoff has absolutely no understanding of basic mathematics. "Zero tolerance"? As I see it, there were four people involved in this scenario -- the nameless schmuck who wore the costume, Myers, and the two other people on the three-judge panel who thought the costume was "original". The schmuck has been "placed on administrative leave" but <em>at least</em> one person out of the four is walking away without having to face any disciplinary action. After all, what about the other two people on the three-judge panel? What (if any) disciplinary action has been taken against them, I wonder? Nobody's saying anything about them, so we have no way to know for sure (we don't even know who they were) -- but it's by no means impossible that no action was taken against them either. Unlike Chertoff, I DO understand basic mathematics -- certainly enough to know that 1 out of 4 is 25% and that 3 out of 4 is 75%. "Zero tolerance" should mean that zero percent of the people involved in this incident escaped disciplinary action -- but at least one, and possibly as many as three, did. The Bush administration is the only place I know where any percentage between 25% and 75% is equivalent to zero -- but then again, increasingly, this administration also seems to think that two plus two equals five... Today, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff appeared on MSNBC and said that he had put the employee who wore the costume on “administrative leave.” He added that he has “zero tolerance” for discriminatory acts. But when it came to Myers, Chertoff refused to condemn her and indicated that she would face no punitive action…

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All this does is prove that Chertoff has absolutely no understanding of basic mathematics. “Zero tolerance”? As I see it, there were four people involved in this scenario — the nameless schmuck who wore the costume, Myers, and the two other people on the three-judge panel who thought the costume was “original”. The schmuck has been “placed on administrative leave” but at least one person out of the four is walking away without having to face any disciplinary action. After all, what about the other two people on the three-judge panel? What (if any) disciplinary action has been taken against them, I wonder? Nobody’s saying anything about them, so we have no way to know for sure (we don’t even know who they were) — but it’s by no means impossible that no action was taken against them either. Unlike Chertoff, I DO understand basic mathematics — certainly enough to know that 1 out of 4 is 25% and that 3 out of 4 is 75%. “Zero tolerance” should mean that zero percent of the people involved in this incident escaped disciplinary action — but at least one, and possibly as many as three, did.

The Bush administration is the only place I know where any percentage between 25% and 75% is equivalent to zero — but then again, increasingly, this administration also seems to think that two plus two equals five…

]]> By: Bluestocking http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-4147455 Bluestocking Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:43:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/#comment-4147455 Why does Chertoff always look like a corpse? -- MissMolly ********************************* Maybe because he's essentially a mindless automaton entirely subject to the will of Bush & Co.? That sure sounds like a zombie to me -- or at the very least, some variation on Frankenstein's monster... Why does Chertoff always look like a corpse? — MissMolly

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Maybe because he’s essentially a mindless automaton entirely subject to the will of Bush & Co.? That sure sounds like a zombie to me — or at the very least, some variation on Frankenstein’s monster…

]]> By: Anonymouse http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-4147451 Anonymouse Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:31:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/#comment-4147451 I'm just wondering what kind of world these folks live in that at least three of them would not even consider that there might be a problem with that costume. Have they been living in seclusion for the past 30 years? At an all-white country club, perhaps? I’m just wondering what kind of world these folks live in that at least three of them would not even consider that there might be a problem with that costume.

Have they been living in seclusion for the past 30 years? At an all-white country club, perhaps?

]]> By: Merlin http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-4147427 Merlin Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:32:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/#comment-4147427 Comment by missmolly — November 6, 2007 @ 4:54 pm <em>Why does Chertoff always look like a corpse?</em> You mean he's alive??? Can't prove it by me! Comment by missmolly — November 6, 2007 @ 4:54 pm

Why does Chertoff always look like a corpse?

You mean he’s alive??? Can’t prove it by me!

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-4147420 bilbobaggins Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:17:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/#comment-4147420 Sounds a lot like what happened with the soldiers at Abu Ghraib and those who told them to torture the detainees. The soldiers are in jail and those who told them (or condoned what they did) are not even reprimanded. Sounds a lot like what happened with the soldiers at Abu Ghraib and those who told them to torture the detainees. The soldiers are in jail and those who told them (or condoned what they did) are not even reprimanded.

]]> By: foolme1ns http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-4147419 foolme1ns Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:14:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/#comment-4147419 they threw the little fish under the bus. But little fish have a way of talking. I don't think this story is over. they threw the little fish under the bus. But little fish have a way of talking. I don’t think this story is over.

]]> By: Doc Rock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-4147406 Doc Rock Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:55:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/#comment-4147406 Republican responsibility always stops at the lowest possible echelon. Republican responsibility always stops at the lowest possible echelon.

]]> By: Winski http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-4147388 Winski Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:25:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/#comment-4147388 He's LIED about everything else, why not this??? He’s LIED about everything else, why not this???

]]> By: OxyCon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-4147385 OxyCon Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:11:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/#comment-4147385 Bush cronies are untouchables. Hechuva job Myersie! Bush cronies are untouchables.
Hechuva job Myersie!

]]> By: SkepticRising http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-4147384 SkepticRising Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:11:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/#comment-4147384 I could see maybe chastising the person who originally wore the costume - <em>before</em> they gave him the award. And maybe send him home to change. But if anyone is culpable for this, it is Myers and the other judges on the panel who were stupid enough to award a prize for what sounds like a pretty lame costume anyway. That's the best they could come up with? But it's par for the course with these guys. They define good as what they do and bad as what other people do. Therefore, there will never be any accountability ignorance, cupidity, incompetence or stupidity. Loyalty is all. Peace out. I could see maybe chastising the person who originally wore the costume – before they gave him the award. And maybe send him home to change. But if anyone is culpable for this, it is Myers and the other judges on the panel who were stupid enough to award a prize for what sounds like a pretty lame costume anyway. That’s the best they could come up with?

But it’s par for the course with these guys. They define good as what they do and bad as what other people do. Therefore, there will never be any accountability ignorance, cupidity, incompetence or stupidity. Loyalty is all.

Peace out.

]]> By: dixie blood http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-4147382 dixie blood Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:06:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/#comment-4147382 <b>Chertoff = CUA!!! But, a top notch Facist scumbag!!!</b> Chertoff = CUA!!!

But, a top notch Facist scumbag!!!

]]> By: Namtillaku http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-4147370 Namtillaku Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:38:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/chertoff-myers/#comment-4147370 "I have absolutely zero tolerance....for milk. That's what we're talking about here right? Nope, I won't stand for it." “I have absolutely zero tolerance….for milk. That’s what we’re talking about here right? Nope, I won’t stand for it.”

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