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		<title>By: DrColes</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/07/immigration-backfires-on-right-wing-in-virginia/comment-page-1/#comment-4149443</link>
		<dc:creator>DrColes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Illegal Aliens and Immigration is NOT the same thing. 80% of the American people want an end to anarchy!
 
Illegal aliens are criminals, those who hire them are criminals and those who aid-and-abet them are criminals. 
 
Illegal aliens in America have NO rights.  We are required by law to arrest and prosecute, deport them. (Title 8 U.S. Code) To report illegal aliens call the DHS National Hotline 1 866 DHS 2ICE. (1-866-347-2523)
 
No, matter your political party affiliation, and setting aside your thoughts on issues.  We all need to remember what it is to be an American Citizen.  We need to make sure our elected representatives obey their Oath of Office and keep their Oath of Allegiance. See http://tinyurl.com/2znnvl Know whom you are voting for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Illegal Aliens and Immigration is NOT the same thing. 80% of the American people want an end to anarchy!</p>
<p>Illegal aliens are criminals, those who hire them are criminals and those who aid-and-abet them are criminals. </p>
<p>Illegal aliens in America have NO rights.  We are required by law to arrest and prosecute, deport them. (Title 8 U.S. Code) To report illegal aliens call the DHS National Hotline 1 866 DHS 2ICE. (1-866-347-2523)</p>
<p>No, matter your political party affiliation, and setting aside your thoughts on issues.  We all need to remember what it is to be an American Citizen.  We need to make sure our elected representatives obey their Oath of Office and keep their Oath of Allegiance. See <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2znnvl" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2znnvl</a> Know whom you are voting for.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4149443', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: nyfilmmaker</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/07/immigration-backfires-on-right-wing-in-virginia/comment-page-1/#comment-4148731</link>
		<dc:creator>nyfilmmaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 02:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Politicians and Americans for that matter should take a look at &quot;American Harvest.&quot; Its a non-partisan feature length documentary about immigration as it relates to agriculture. It presents the facts as they are without political bias. &lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.americanharvestmovie.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.americanharvestmovie.com&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;American Harvest Synopsis  &lt;/strong&gt;     

Anti-immigration sentiment sweeps across America. A journey from Florida to New York, including a trip to the Mexican border, reveals the lives and issues of legal and illegal migrants and farmers working toward a better life. Is the immigration system in America flawed? Immigrants are dying to feed America.

American farmers and agriculture rely on immigrants to do jobs that Americans wonâ€™t do or feel that are simply beneath them. Some only see the problems in the news from the perspective of those extreme points of view of the left and the right side of our political system.

Discrimination of immigrants has existed in the United States since the English persecuted the Irish. It was once generally considered that if you were Greek or Southern Italian you were not white.

American Harvest points out the inconsistencies of the current policy on immigration. See the changing face of immigrant America as it relates to Agriculture.

Follow legal and illegal farm workers and the farmers caught in the middle of a flawed immigration policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Politicians and Americans for that matter should take a look at &#8220;American Harvest.&#8221; Its a non-partisan feature length documentary about immigration as it relates to agriculture. It presents the facts as they are without political bias. </strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.americanharvestmovie.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanharvestmovie.com</a></p>
<p><strong>American Harvest Synopsis  </strong>     </p>
<p>Anti-immigration sentiment sweeps across America. A journey from Florida to New York, including a trip to the Mexican border, reveals the lives and issues of legal and illegal migrants and farmers working toward a better life. Is the immigration system in America flawed? Immigrants are dying to feed America.</p>
<p>American farmers and agriculture rely on immigrants to do jobs that Americans wonâ€™t do or feel that are simply beneath them. Some only see the problems in the news from the perspective of those extreme points of view of the left and the right side of our political system.</p>
<p>Discrimination of immigrants has existed in the United States since the English persecuted the Irish. It was once generally considered that if you were Greek or Southern Italian you were not white.</p>
<p>American Harvest points out the inconsistencies of the current policy on immigration. See the changing face of immigrant America as it relates to Agriculture.</p>
<p>Follow legal and illegal farm workers and the farmers caught in the middle of a flawed immigration policy.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4148731', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shinning Light</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/07/immigration-backfires-on-right-wing-in-virginia/comment-page-1/#comment-4148612</link>
		<dc:creator>Shinning Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 01:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like #21

Here in the NYS the Repigs were &amp; are exploiting the issue successfully- sometimes not by much, but enough that it was probably a factor in ousting several long term Democrats.  The day before the election a nasty letter from the local Repig State Senator arrived in mailboxes.  In upstate NY this last minute dumping of rumor - a Swiftboating if you will - has been a long term tradition. 

They&#039;ve learned from Rove - surprised that one of them didn&#039;t replace him in the WH.</description>
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<p>Here in the NYS the Repigs were &amp; are exploiting the issue successfully- sometimes not by much, but enough that it was probably a factor in ousting several long term Democrats.  The day before the election a nasty letter from the local Repig State Senator arrived in mailboxes.  In upstate NY this last minute dumping of rumor &#8211; a Swiftboating if you will &#8211; has been a long term tradition. </p>
<p>They&#8217;ve learned from Rove &#8211; surprised that one of them didn&#8217;t replace him in the WH.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4148612', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lefty Patriot</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/07/immigration-backfires-on-right-wing-in-virginia/comment-page-1/#comment-4148395</link>
		<dc:creator>Lefty Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hurrah for the racist-mongering liberal puppet heads.

Comment by DreamCrusher â€” November 7, 2007 @ 4:49 pm

Good for you! Three straw men for us to burn up! Your parole officer must be so proud that you&#039;re learning to type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hurrah for the racist-mongering liberal puppet heads.</p>
<p>Comment by DreamCrusher â€” November 7, 2007 @ 4:49 pm</p>
<p>Good for you! Three straw men for us to burn up! Your parole officer must be so proud that you&#8217;re learning to type.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4148395', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lefty Patriot</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/07/immigration-backfires-on-right-wing-in-virginia/comment-page-1/#comment-4148394</link>
		<dc:creator>Lefty Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, it reinforces the impression that she will say anything to win a vote regardless of what she believes.

The polls in NY are against her on this one, though.

Comment by Keltoi â€” November 7, 2007 @ 4:03 pm

So, you agree that she&#039;s a Republican, like her husband?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, it reinforces the impression that she will say anything to win a vote regardless of what she believes.</p>
<p>The polls in NY are against her on this one, though.</p>
<p>Comment by Keltoi â€” November 7, 2007 @ 4:03 pm</p>
<p>So, you agree that she&#8217;s a Republican, like her husband?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4148394', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by DreamCrusher â€” November 7, 2007 @ 4:49 pm
#

Thank you for proving the point I made in #30</description>
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<p>Thank you for proving the point I made in #30<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4148384', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: toasterhead</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/07/immigration-backfires-on-right-wing-in-virginia/comment-page-1/#comment-4148361</link>
		<dc:creator>toasterhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Hurrah for the racist-mongering liberal puppet heads.

Comment by DreamCrusher â€” November 7, 2007 @ 4:49 pm&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, it was the racist-mongerers who lost the VA senate yesterday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Hurrah for the racist-mongering liberal puppet heads.</p>
<p>Comment by DreamCrusher â€” November 7, 2007 @ 4:49 pm</i></p>
<p>Actually, it was the racist-mongerers who lost the VA senate yesterday.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4148361', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JosephW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JosephW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neocons are the Barney Fifes of the political world - they should never be allowed to have any bullets, silver or not.

Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian â€” November 7, 2007 @ 3:31 pm

On behalf of the Barney Fife Anti-Defamation League, I strenuously object to your mentioning the Great Deputy&#039;s name in the same sentence as the word &quot;neocon&quot;, especially when you DARE malign him so atrociously.  Deputy Fife might have been somewhat overzealous in the performance of his duties but he NEVER overstepped his lawful authority, and in those instances when Sheriff Taylor had to rebuke him, Deputy Fife willingly accepted his punishment and learned the errors of his ways.
Show me one neocon who&#039;s been rebuked, then willingly accepted his punishment, and THEN learned the errors of his ways.  Be aware that the BFADL allows no more than 5 years for such evidence to be presented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neocons are the Barney Fifes of the political world &#8211; they should never be allowed to have any bullets, silver or not.</p>
<p>Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian â€” November 7, 2007 @ 3:31 pm</p>
<p>On behalf of the Barney Fife Anti-Defamation League, I strenuously object to your mentioning the Great Deputy&#8217;s name in the same sentence as the word &#8220;neocon&#8221;, especially when you DARE malign him so atrociously.  Deputy Fife might have been somewhat overzealous in the performance of his duties but he NEVER overstepped his lawful authority, and in those instances when Sheriff Taylor had to rebuke him, Deputy Fife willingly accepted his punishment and learned the errors of his ways.<br />
Show me one neocon who&#8217;s been rebuked, then willingly accepted his punishment, and THEN learned the errors of his ways.  Be aware that the BFADL allows no more than 5 years for such evidence to be presented.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4148321', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: toasterhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>toasterhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Now we have the foundation for the Canada/US/Mexico union which he signed well over a year ago. Iâ€™ve read that the connecting highway is already being built in Texas - anyone else read anything about that?

Comment by Veritas â€” November 7, 2007 @ 4:17 pm&lt;/i&gt;

We already have that.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&amp;ll=38.410558,-91.977539&amp;spn=25.019751,40.869141&amp;z=5&amp;om=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;It&#039;s called I-35.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Now we have the foundation for the Canada/US/Mexico union which he signed well over a year ago. Iâ€™ve read that the connecting highway is already being built in Texas &#8211; anyone else read anything about that?</p>
<p>Comment by Veritas â€” November 7, 2007 @ 4:17 pm</i></p>
<p>We already have that.  <a href="http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&amp;ll=38.410558,-91.977539&amp;spn=25.019751,40.869141&amp;z=5&amp;om=1" rel="nofollow">It&#8217;s called I-35.</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4148306', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn.  This is funny.  The repubs lose because of this issue, and rather than learn from this experience they continue further down the same path.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn.  This is funny.  The repubs lose because of this issue, and rather than learn from this experience they continue further down the same path.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4148289', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Doc Rock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It ain&#039;t Progressives who are afraid of immigration as an issue, it&#039;s dem cookie jar Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It ain&#8217;t Progressives who are afraid of immigration as an issue, it&#8217;s dem cookie jar Democrats.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4148287', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: toasterhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>toasterhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Toasterhead: And people are realizing that the blame for this mess needs to remain where it belongs - right back to GWBush and his cadre of law breakers.

Comment by Veritas â€” November 7, 2007 @ 4:15 pm&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m hoping they&#039;ll take it further than that.  It&#039;s an issue that goes way farther than Bush.  Illegal immigration is just one symptom of a global poverty problem that involves trade policy, foreign direct investment, structural adjustment, and farm subsidies, among many issues.  We need to approach it holistically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Toasterhead: And people are realizing that the blame for this mess needs to remain where it belongs &#8211; right back to GWBush and his cadre of law breakers.</p>
<p>Comment by Veritas â€” November 7, 2007 @ 4:15 pm</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping they&#8217;ll take it further than that.  It&#8217;s an issue that goes way farther than Bush.  Illegal immigration is just one symptom of a global poverty problem that involves trade policy, foreign direct investment, structural adjustment, and farm subsidies, among many issues.  We need to approach it holistically.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4148278', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Veritas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veritas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I believe that this was entirely an intentional move by Bush to move his wet dream for a North American Union forward.  Leave the borders wide open and entice the illegals in with jobs - then when it&#039;s impossible to document or deport them, voila!  Now we have the foundation for the Canada/US/Mexico union which he signed well over a year ago.  I&#039;ve read that the connecting highway is already being built in Texas - anyone else read anything about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I believe that this was entirely an intentional move by Bush to move his wet dream for a North American Union forward.  Leave the borders wide open and entice the illegals in with jobs &#8211; then when it&#8217;s impossible to document or deport them, voila!  Now we have the foundation for the Canada/US/Mexico union which he signed well over a year ago.  I&#8217;ve read that the connecting highway is already being built in Texas &#8211; anyone else read anything about that?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4148269', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Veritas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veritas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toasterhead:  And people are realizing that the blame for this mess needs to remain where it belongs - right back to GWBush and his cadre of law breakers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toasterhead:  And people are realizing that the blame for this mess needs to remain where it belongs &#8211; right back to GWBush and his cadre of law breakers.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4148265', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Veritas</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/07/immigration-backfires-on-right-wing-in-virginia/comment-page-1/#comment-4148263</link>
		<dc:creator>Veritas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and, unfortunately, from what I&#039;ve seen, the Democrats and their candidates are sitting on the opposite side of the issue than a good percentage of americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and, unfortunately, from what I&#8217;ve seen, the Democrats and their candidates are sitting on the opposite side of the issue than a good percentage of americans.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4148263', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: toasterhead</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/07/immigration-backfires-on-right-wing-in-virginia/comment-page-1/#comment-4148262</link>
		<dc:creator>toasterhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The polls in NY are against her on this one, though.

Comment by Keltoi â€” November 7, 2007 @ 4:03 pm&lt;/i&gt;

Of course they are, but I think it depends on how they word the question.  If you ask people &quot;do you support giving driver&#039;s licenses to illegals,&quot; of course they&#039;re going to say no.  If you ask people &quot;do you support documenting illegal immigrants and preventing them from causing traffic accidents,&quot; I think you&#039;ll get more people saying yes.

It&#039;s a really complex issue, and people are starting to realize that the build-a-fence-and-deport-em-all strategy is not viable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The polls in NY are against her on this one, though.</p>
<p>Comment by Keltoi â€” November 7, 2007 @ 4:03 pm</i></p>
<p>Of course they are, but I think it depends on how they word the question.  If you ask people &#8220;do you support giving driver&#8217;s licenses to illegals,&#8221; of course they&#8217;re going to say no.  If you ask people &#8220;do you support documenting illegal immigrants and preventing them from causing traffic accidents,&#8221; I think you&#8217;ll get more people saying yes.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a really complex issue, and people are starting to realize that the build-a-fence-and-deport-em-all strategy is not viable.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4148262', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Veritas</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/07/immigration-backfires-on-right-wing-in-virginia/comment-page-1/#comment-4148261</link>
		<dc:creator>Veritas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miss Molly:  I think you&#039;re right.  The poll I saw earlier had a pretty even balance among a myriad of issues - maybe it would be safer to ask ourselves:  What is NOT an issue at this point in this country?
What has Bush NOT botched beyond recognition?  

I think the illegal immigrant issue will be more regionally felt myself. Right now the trucker unions are bat$hit about mexicans trucking across the country as of last week.  I&#039;m not quite sure how or where the impact of illegal immigration will be felt but I do know that, like the Iraq War, when it&#039;s discussed it engenders quite volatile reactions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miss Molly:  I think you&#8217;re right.  The poll I saw earlier had a pretty even balance among a myriad of issues &#8211; maybe it would be safer to ask ourselves:  What is NOT an issue at this point in this country?<br />
What has Bush NOT botched beyond recognition?  </p>
<p>I think the illegal immigrant issue will be more regionally felt myself. Right now the trucker unions are bat$hit about mexicans trucking across the country as of last week.  I&#8217;m not quite sure how or where the impact of illegal immigration will be felt but I do know that, like the Iraq War, when it&#8217;s discussed it engenders quite volatile reactions.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4148261', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Veritas</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/07/immigration-backfires-on-right-wing-in-virginia/comment-page-1/#comment-4148257</link>
		<dc:creator>Veritas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;alterior motive&quot; - typo but perhaps more of a Freudian slip than I&#039;d realized....since Repukes live in an definitely &quot;altered state of reality&quot; 24/7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;alterior motive&#8221; &#8211; typo but perhaps more of a Freudian slip than I&#8217;d realized&#8230;.since Repukes live in an definitely &#8220;altered state of reality&#8221; 24/7.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4148257', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Veritas</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/07/immigration-backfires-on-right-wing-in-virginia/comment-page-1/#comment-4148256</link>
		<dc:creator>Veritas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s quite funny actually that the Repukes actually created the problem (open borders enticing illegal immigration) and then when the country was full of them after doing absolutely nothing about it, the attempt to bring it full DARVO circle (deny, attack, reverse victim and offender) - by making the Dems take a stand to help these millions of illegals and then slamming the door in the faces of the democrats when they do.  Pretty nifty trick but it looks like it won&#039;t the the &quot;silver bullet&quot; they&#039;d hoped to bring to fruition.

The sad fact is that the majority of americans are well-informed today thanks to the internet and no thanks to the MSM whores.  The very sick GOP has become almost infantile-like transparent in their plots to wrangle control back to their party.  Everyone with a brain could see that you can&#039;t tout national security when the borders are wide open - it&#039;s a contradiction in philosophies.

Likewise, we all realized that there had to be an &quot;alterior motive&quot; to permitting the porous borders, at the extinction of national security, and that was to turn it around into a national issue where the Rethugs could finally look as though they had an epiphany and actually want to do something right like enforcing the law. 

Give me a break here!  Do they think the people are idiots?  Conversely, the people KNOW that the Republican Party is comprised of a bunch of inbred, greed-motivated, sexually perverse nincompoops and fools.....that&#039;s all that&#039;s left to the GOP base these days!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s quite funny actually that the Repukes actually created the problem (open borders enticing illegal immigration) and then when the country was full of them after doing absolutely nothing about it, the attempt to bring it full DARVO circle (deny, attack, reverse victim and offender) &#8211; by making the Dems take a stand to help these millions of illegals and then slamming the door in the faces of the democrats when they do.  Pretty nifty trick but it looks like it won&#8217;t the the &#8220;silver bullet&#8221; they&#8217;d hoped to bring to fruition.</p>
<p>The sad fact is that the majority of americans are well-informed today thanks to the internet and no thanks to the MSM whores.  The very sick GOP has become almost infantile-like transparent in their plots to wrangle control back to their party.  Everyone with a brain could see that you can&#8217;t tout national security when the borders are wide open &#8211; it&#8217;s a contradiction in philosophies.</p>
<p>Likewise, we all realized that there had to be an &#8220;alterior motive&#8221; to permitting the porous borders, at the extinction of national security, and that was to turn it around into a national issue where the Rethugs could finally look as though they had an epiphany and actually want to do something right like enforcing the law. </p>
<p>Give me a break here!  Do they think the people are idiots?  Conversely, the people KNOW that the Republican Party is comprised of a bunch of inbred, greed-motivated, sexually perverse nincompoops and fools&#8230;..that&#8217;s all that&#8217;s left to the GOP base these days!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4148256', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keltoi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keltoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iâ€™d wager that much of that drop is due to her waffling about the issue rather than endosing it. 

Comment by toasterhead â€” November 7, 2007 @ 3:30 pm

Agreed, it reinforces the impression that she will say anything to win a vote regardless of what she believes.

The polls in NY are against her on this one, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iâ€™d wager that much of that drop is due to her waffling about the issue rather than endosing it. </p>
<p>Comment by toasterhead â€” November 7, 2007 @ 3:30 pm</p>
<p>Agreed, it reinforces the impression that she will say anything to win a vote regardless of what she believes.</p>
<p>The polls in NY are against her on this one, though.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4148251', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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