Bush’s 2000 recount lawyer set to blast Bush in speech.
Bush’s 2000 recount lawyer set to blast Bush in speech.
Barry Richard, the lawyer who “achieved fame for his successful representation of George Bush in the Bush v. Gore recount suits, is set to give a speech blasting the Bush administration Saturday night” at the National Association of Former U.S. Attorneys’ (NAFUSA) annual conference. There will also be a panel discussion featuring two of the ousted U.S. attorneys. The National Law Journal reports:
“I’m sure people will see my name on the program and expect I will be defending the administration,” said Richard, a Tallahassee, Fla., lawyer.
“But I’m a constitutional lawyer. I am concerned with the Bush administration’s assault on American liberties … how the administration deals with habeas corpus and the administration’s posture on electronic surveillance. This administration has gone farther than any other.”
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Cheney edict: “Bury Richard.”
November 8th, 2007 at 9:03 pmGood I hope he kicks Dubya to the curb.
November 8th, 2007 at 9:06 pmWhat did he expect back in 2000? Seemed obvious W was out to do no good even back then.
November 8th, 2007 at 9:10 pmThe last administration that had to deal with an attack on our soil rounded up as many of the Japanese on the west coast as they could. But that was okay because FDR was a democrat.
Comment by Beefeater — November 8, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
well, if that’s your idea of ok… you must be a right wing, conservative, republican!
(am i right?)
November 8th, 2007 at 9:14 pmBeefeater, why use one national disgrace to defend another?
November 8th, 2007 at 9:15 pmWaah, FDR locked up Japanese when he was Pres so GWB should be able to do whatever the phuck he wants… and I’ll defend him no matter how many of my rights he takes away. It’s good when a Republican breaks the law & ignores the Constitution. Clinton did it too, or would have if he had allowed 9/11 to happen while he was Pres. Waah. – Beefeater
November 8th, 2007 at 9:17 pmWaah, FDR locked up Japanese when he was Pres so GWB should be able to do whatever the phuck he wants… and I’ll defend him no matter how many of my rights he takes away. It’s good when a Republican breaks the law & ignores the Constitution. Clinton did it too, or would have if he had allowed 9/11 to happen while he was Pres. Waah. – Beefeater
Comment by Dave C — November 8, 2007 @ 9:17 pm
beefeater (if that’s really your name)… did you say that? did you?
November 8th, 2007 at 9:21 pmRight on brother.
November 8th, 2007 at 9:25 pmHad TP been around in 2000, this thread would be called ‘Bush attorney is an unscrupulous hack for the newly (s)elected president’.
NOW Barry he is a brave troofer, courageously shouldering the burden of informing the world what a dastardly sort Bush really is, knowing full well that Cheney can have him disappear at a moments notice.
Expect the NYT to award Mr. Richard with a glowing, front-page accolade.
November 8th, 2007 at 9:28 pmThe last administration that had to deal with an attack on our soil rounded up as many of the Japanese on the west coast as they could. But that was okay because FDR was a democrat.
Comment by Beefeater — November 8, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
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JAPAN attacked the US at Pearl Harbor and FDR, responding to pressure from a xenophobic sector of the public, wrongly rounded up US citizens of JAPANESE descent.
Not a single Iraqi but mostly SAUDIS attacked the US on 9/11 and Dubya invades IRAQ.
It’s the equivalent of being attacked by JAPAN and invading MEXICO.
Do you see the difference now?
November 8th, 2007 at 9:33 pmThere it is in black and white, folks…even Bush’s former lawyer isn’t willing to defend him or stand up for him any longer…
Reminds me a little bit of when I was a young child and Nixon was embroiled in Watergate. My parents and I were living in England at the time (my father’s company transferred him to a plant there for a couple of years when I was little) and my parents always made time to catch Alistair Cooke’s program “Letters From America” when it came on. While the Watergate Affair was a news item of considerable interest, it understandably wasn’t the top story — and there wasn’t a wide variety of news sources to choose from, since there were only three television channels. I was far too young to remember or appreciate it, but my mother remembers that Alistair Cooke originally tried to defend Nixon and give him the benefit of the doubt, but as time went on started defending him less and less — and that’s when she started realizing that Nixon’s goose was cooked. When even the people who previously defended you start turning on you…I tell ya, that’s when you want to start keeping an eye on your tail feathers (if you’re smart, that is)!
November 8th, 2007 at 9:35 pmComment by Beefeater — November 8, 2007 @ 9:39 pm
why do you hate america?
November 8th, 2007 at 9:42 pmI hardly think that Bush has “gone farther than any other.â€
Comment by Beefeater — November 8, 2007 @ 9:39 pm
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It’s your word against that of Barry Richard a constitutional lawyer who was also instrumental in making Bush President of the US.
Easy choice to make!
November 8th, 2007 at 9:48 pmExpect the NYT to award Mr. Richard with a glowing, front-page accolade.
Comment by Minotaur — November 8, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
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He certainly deserves it for putting the Constitution ahead of his loyalty to a law breaker.
November 8th, 2007 at 9:54 pmOh I get it. FDR provoked the Japanese and let the attack on Pearl Harbor happen (lihop to you) and then bombed Germany to get even. So He lied us into war that we had no business in, and rounded up the Japanese.
Comment by Beefeater — November 8, 2007 @ 9:50 pm
read that back to yourself. slowly.
November 8th, 2007 at 9:56 pmNOW Barry he is a brave troofer, courageously shouldering the burden of informing the world what a dastardly sort Bush really is, knowing full well that Cheney can have him disappear at a moments notice.
Comment by Minotaur — November 8, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
when you’re right, you’re right. he’s a hero.
November 8th, 2007 at 9:58 pmBeefeater sounds ginned-up. No longer able to feel drunk with power, Beefeater sounds like our delusional president, just drunk.
November 8th, 2007 at 10:00 pmHe certainly deserves it for putting the Constitution ahead of his loyalty to a law breaker.
Until now brave Barry would have been considered just another Bushadmin shill.
Think Lieberman in reverse.
November 8th, 2007 at 10:01 pmBeefeater sounds ginned-up. No longer able to feel drunk with power, Beefeater sounds like our delusional president, just drunk.
Comment by Saint Augustine — November 8, 2007 @ 10:00 pm
well be fair now. it’s hard for him to think clearly when minotaur’s giving him a blow job.
November 8th, 2007 at 10:02 pmComment by Beefeater — November 8, 2007 @ 9:50 pm
Oh Boy! A new (old) troll. Here’s a couple more for you.
1. The entire, unconquered, world begged us to intervene against Germany and Japan.
2. Germany, and Japan, declared war on us. Not the other way round.
What government declared war on us this time?
Who invited us into Iraq, or Afghanistan?
If you want to fling your crap, I suggest you, at least, compare apples to apples. If not, go to bed. You need to be alert when Mommy brings “class” to order. Better yet, drop dead. Your existence is futile and contrary to “survival of the fittest”.
November 8th, 2007 at 10:02 pmwhen you’re right, you’re right. he’s a hero.
Comment by joe cantwell — November 8, 2007 @ 9:58 pm
From hack to hero overnight, libonian style! All you need to do is say something, anything bad about Bush to gain the favor of the left, no matter how crazy or conspiratorial.
Too bad that when you falter in that exercise you get drummed from the party; not much room on the reservation for opposing thoughts.
November 8th, 2007 at 10:04 pmBush’s 2000 recount lawyer set to blast Bush in speech.
November 8th, 2007 at 10:05 pmOh goody more words… It is time for action.
Too bad that when you falter in that exercise you get drummed from the party; not much room on the reservation for opposing thoughts.
Comment by Minotaur — November 8, 2007 @ 10:04 pm
dude it’s all in your head. sit down a relax. btw, have you seen dick cheney’s cowboy hat?
November 8th, 2007 at 10:06 pmIt’s your word against that of Barry Richard a constitutional lawyer who was also instrumental in making Bush President of the US.
You are going to believe a guy that helped Bush supposedly cheat his way into the presidency?
“Ah, we can overlook that, he is on OUR side now”.
November 8th, 2007 at 10:06 pmdude it’s all in your head. sit down a relax. btw, have you seen dick cheney’s cowboy hat?
No it’s in Lieberman’s head; (D) to (I) quick as a blink.
I like Cheney’s hat, it has that certain Darth Vaderish look to it.
November 8th, 2007 at 10:09 pmComment by Minotaur — November 8, 2007 @ 10:06 pm
Generally, the best source of information on criminals comes from their former associates. Ever hear of “informants”?
November 8th, 2007 at 10:09 pmOh I get it. FDR provoked the Japanese and let the attack on Pearl Harbor happen (lihop to you) and then bombed Germany to get even. So He lied us into war that we had no business in, and rounded up the Japanese.
Comment by Beefeater — November 8, 2007 @ 9:50 pm
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I guess your reading comprehension isn’t as good as I thought.
Let me try one more time.
When the US was attacked by JAPAN, FDR declared war on JAPAN not GERMANY. Are you following me or am I going too fast?
The rounding up of US citizens of JAPANESE descent was due to pressure, mostly from your Republican ancestors, who were in the opposition and, as usual, used fear of foreigners as their argument.
Again, being attacked by mostly SAUDIS and invading IRAQ is the equivalent of being attacked by Japan and invading MEXICO.
Am I getting through?
November 8th, 2007 at 10:10 pmI like Cheney’s hat, it has that certain Darth Vaderish look to it.
Comment by Minotaur — November 8, 2007 @ 10:09 pm
you should see it when he wears with the optional ostrich plume… then he’s “pimp master dick”. very cool.
who’s joe lieberman…? your life partner?
November 8th, 2007 at 10:13 pmYou know, It’s (almost) sad to think that these little sh!t-stains (trolls) believe that pledging loyalty to Bushco will keep them safe. On second thought it’s hilarious! Keep spouting that party line. You deserve all you the pain you get.
November 8th, 2007 at 10:17 pmComment by pete — November 8, 2007 @ 10:17 pm
Oops! Typo. That should read, “You deserve all the pain you get”.
November 8th, 2007 at 10:19 pmminotaur? beefeater?
November 8th, 2007 at 10:22 pmYou are going to believe a guy that helped Bush supposedly cheat his way into the presidency?
“Ah, we can overlook that, he is on OUR side nowâ€.
Comment by Minotaur — November 8, 2007 @ 10:06 pm
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That’s the best possible source! He knows where all the skeletons are hidden.
But I guess the marching order to the trolls is to swiftboat him. I don’t think it will work.
November 8th, 2007 at 10:24 pmminortaur?!
beefeater?!
!!!
November 8th, 2007 at 10:27 pmBut that was okay because FDR was a democrat.
Comment by Beefeater
No it wasn’t ok.
And if the person doing what Bush is doing was a Democrat, we would all be criticizing him or her too. In case you haven’t noticed, Democrats don’t march in lock step and are not shy in criticizing their own for not doing the right thing. Unlike the lemming Republicans who are all following Bush off a cliff.
November 8th, 2007 at 10:31 pmminortaur? beefeater?
where are you two sodomites?
November 8th, 2007 at 10:36 pmAm I getting through?
Comment by foreyes
You may as well give it up. Both Minitor and Beefeater are way too far gone for anyone to get through to them. It’s best we just ignore them. Then they can talk to each other and stroke each other’s egos.
November 8th, 2007 at 10:39 pmIt looks like our sh!t-stains, I mean trolls, got scared by our truthiness. Too bad. They were soooo easy.
November 8th, 2007 at 10:40 pmJust ONCE I would love to have a TROLL that has the ability to THINK and READ…….
That is not likely to happen. If they were able to think, read and comprehend what they were reading they wouldn’t be trolls and they wouldn’t be Republicans.
November 8th, 2007 at 10:42 pmI think they are looking for Jeff Gannon’s email address for a 3 some?
Comment by RemoveBush — November 8, 2007 @ 10:39 pm
good lord, there’s a hiv cocktail waiting to happen!
(on the other hand it could hasten universal health care so maybe it’s a good thing… if only they were here to comment!)
November 8th, 2007 at 10:43 pmI know…… It was “kinda†meant to be rhetorical.
Comment by RemoveBush — November 8, 2007 @ 10:43 pm
i think we can all agree that while minotaur wasn’t much fun, goddamn it, good old beefeater, well he was kinda like moe on “the simpsons”. i’m gonna miss his goofy, self-deprecating humor, aren’t you?
November 8th, 2007 at 10:50 pmYou know what? In the end, Bush will be remembered as a uniter. He united just about everyone against him. He will be remembered for that.
November 8th, 2007 at 10:50 pmNow that is a lawyer with a GRIPE…
Comment by francie — November 8, 2007 @ 10:49 pm
what’s a GRIPE? and why would a lawyer have one?
November 8th, 2007 at 10:51 pmAnd if the person doing what Bush is doing was a Democrat, we would all be criticizing him or her too. In case you haven’t noticed, Democrats don’t march in lock step and are not shy in criticizing their own for not doing the right thing. Unlike the lemming Republicans who are all following Bush off a cliff.
Comment by bilbobaggins — November 8, 2007 @ 10:31 pm
First off, Bilbo, there are virtually no Democrats I have ever noticed on this list, so it is no great act of political courage to criticize them. The vast majority of TPers are so far to the left of the Dems I’d have to say you are Greens to the extent it is possible to group you all together. Which it isn’t really possible to do, but you get the idea.
As far as Dems not marching in lockstep, it is true they are more fractious than the Repubs, but how many Dems sided with Kucinich yesterday? 27? The rest seemed to fall in line rather nicely with Hoyer and Pelosi.
BTW, does it only take a simple majority to get articles of impeachment out of the House? I THINK that is true, yes? So the Dems could do it on a party line vote if they wanted – maybe one man’s lockstep is another mans virtuous discipline?
November 8th, 2007 at 10:53 pmDo you think Bills lawyer was beaten to a pulp by HILLARY? Or did she forgive the poor schluck because it happened all the time?
Comment by francie — November 8, 2007 @ 10:51 pm
where i come from “schluck” is anti freeze.
francie, are you richard mellon scaife’s forty dollar an hour girl friend?
(just asking)
November 8th, 2007 at 10:53 pmHey,,,, do you think HILLARYS lawyer was chapped about her hiding Travel MEMO’s in the white house and then having them REAPPEAR on a table? Or do you think the lawyer was really behind it?…
Comment by francie — November 8, 2007 @ 10:53 pm
francie… that’s tranny for beefeater, right?
November 8th, 2007 at 10:55 pmfrancie?
beefeater?
minotaur?
November 8th, 2007 at 10:58 pmNOPE
Comment by francie — November 8, 2007 @ 10:57 pm
why not?
November 8th, 2007 at 10:59 pmfrancie?
November 8th, 2007 at 11:00 pmfrancie?
are you still typing?
November 8th, 2007 at 11:01 pmI am concerned with the Bush administration’s assault on American liberties -Barry Richard’
People have been saying this for years and while I’m glad this prominent voice is speaking out….What the hell took so long?
November 8th, 2007 at 11:01 pmComment by francie — November 8, 2007 @ 11:01 pm
so what you’re saying is that when you pull your middle finger out of your rectum and you look at it you say “mom!”
right?
November 8th, 2007 at 11:02 pmJoe,,, Libtard Lawyers only represent RIGHTS as they pertain to extending LIBTARD theology….
\/\/ is a libtard?
November 8th, 2007 at 11:03 pmNote to Mr. Barry Richard, Esq. : Trying to distance yourself from an unpopular president by claiming constitutional grounds is some real chutzpah.
Since you trashed our Constitution in 2000 you now come across as a very big hypocrite. But that is SOP for a GOP apperatchik, isn’t it?
And if you are, by some fantastic chance, sincere, let me let you in on a little homespun homily: when you sleep with vipers, you gonna get bit.
November 8th, 2007 at 11:04 pmmy real name is SCOOTER,,,,,
Comment by francie — November 8, 2007 @ 11:02 pm
scooter libby… the lawyer at now?
November 8th, 2007 at 11:04 pmBROWNSHIRTS at TP have not cancelled YET,,,
Fascists were liberal??
November 8th, 2007 at 11:05 pmJoe,,, thats soo intelligent,,,, i don’t know HOW to respond,,,,, HMMMMM
Comment by francie — November 8, 2007 @ 11:04 pm
well sit down, put your head between you knees and think about it.
(we’ll be waiting)
November 8th, 2007 at 11:06 pmBILLS lawyers
Comment by francie — November 8, 2007 @ 11:05 pm
an nfl football team lawyer?
wtf?
November 8th, 2007 at 11:07 pmI just had to sell to BUSH,,,, much cheaper than the DEVIL….
Comment by francie — November 8, 2007 @ 11:07 pm
so you’re his coke connection!
November 8th, 2007 at 11:08 pmsorry nitwits,,,, gotta run
Comment by francie — November 8, 2007 @ 11:07 pm
goodbye chicken.
shit.
November 8th, 2007 at 11:08 pmHey! It’s Vichy France-ee. Obviously you haven’t been educating yourself.
Let’s see, oh! now I remember. Did you know that the drive to “group together” dissimilar things (like TPers) is a sign of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder? You might want to ask a doctor about that. It’s treatable.
Until then, I would like to remind you of two things.
1. The mistakes, and misdeeds, of one administration don’t excuse the mistakes, or misdeeds, of another. It’s kinda like; if you sold your house and left the meth lab in the basement. If the buyer decided to keep it in operation, and got caught, “Vichy France-ee left it here” would not be a legal defense.
2. Monica was “of legal age” and, according to her own testimony, consented to whatever happened. So, your claim of “abuse” is not valid.
But, hey. You’re 0 for 2. At least your consistent. Now go to bed so the mammals can chat about things you can’t understand.
November 8th, 2007 at 11:10 pmNo,,,, the NOW laywers, BILLS lawyers, HILLARYS lawyers,,, ETC…..
Comment by francie
What does that have to do with Barry Richard??? And this thread, pray tell?
November 8th, 2007 at 11:11 pmthe troll droppings are not as good as they use to be. they’re just not trying. and they give up so easily.
November 8th, 2007 at 11:14 pmAll these people with buuyers’ remorse won’t change a thing today. The time to act was in 2000 when half of us had figured out that Bush was a lying, incompetent loser who had everything in life handed to him, the ignorant oaf.
November 8th, 2007 at 11:15 pmThey can blast away at him and Bush won’t even feel embarrassed.
Life goes on for him. No change.
Aw dang. Vichy France-ee ran away while I was distracted. I really wanted to tell the hateful, bigoted, moronic, inbred, sh!t-stain what a turd it is. Sigh. I might as well go to bed.
Give the sh!t-stain heck if it returns. G’night humans.
You too trolls, I mean sh!t-stains.
November 8th, 2007 at 11:15 pmthe troll droppings are not as good as they use to be. they’re just not trying. and they give up so easily.
Comment by joe cantwell — November 8, 2007
Obviously they pay scale has dropped significantly as the donations have dried up from the evangelicals.
November 8th, 2007 at 11:17 pmi got some advice for you Barry. want to blame someone? look in the mirror then pull the trigger.
November 8th, 2007 at 11:20 pmDo you think the LAWYERS at NOW,,, National Organization for Women are mad at BILL after he abused an intern?
NOPE
Comment by francie — November 8, 2007 @ 10:57 pm
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So, what’s your point? Try to be specific even if it makes your silly little head hurt.
November 8th, 2007 at 11:32 pmObviously they pay scale has dropped significantly as the donations have dried up from the evangelicals.
Comment by Xisithrus — November 8, 2007 @ 11:17 pm
you could be right. turn on “to catch a predator” with your host chris hansen. there you’ll see “francie” (aka “scooter”) “beefeater” and, of course, “minotaur” crying and spinning for their lives. fun.
November 8th, 2007 at 11:35 pmJoe,,, Libtard Lawyers only represent RIGHTS as they pertain to extending LIBTARD theology….
Comment by francie — November 8, 2007 @ 11:01 pm
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Does your definition of “Libtard Lawyers” include the ACLU?
I don’t think Rush “Druggie” Limbaugh would agree with you.
November 8th, 2007 at 11:42 pmI just had to sell to BUSH,,,, much cheaper than the DEVIL….
Comment by francie — November 8, 2007 @ 11:07 pm
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So you go to the cheapest bidder?
November 8th, 2007 at 11:46 pmThere’s your “legacy” right there Bush!
November 8th, 2007 at 11:50 pmYour accomplice in election theft thinks your an a-hole.
I just had to sell to BUSH,,,, much cheaper than the DEVIL….
Comment by francie — November 8, 2007 @ 11:07 pm
Dumbass went with the low bidder on his own soul.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:07 amJeebus…how thick can you get?
FYI, looks like the two fired US Attorneys scheduled for the panel discussion on Saturday are David Iglesias of New Mexico & John McKay of Washington.
November 9th, 2007 at 5:31 amQ: Why do you hate America?
November 9th, 2007 at 7:37 amA: Because Republicans have destroyed it.
Hahahaah where is dear Bigfwat? Is he one of the trolls in disguise. He’s obviously too cowardly to come on this thread, seeing as he has in the past insisted that the issue of bush violating civil liberties is only an issue of the “kook left”…
November 9th, 2007 at 7:46 am>You are going to believe a guy that helped Bush supposedly cheat his >way into the presidency?
the lawsuit itself wasnt cheating. i dont know enough about the case to know whether i agree with the ruling, but it wasnt a frivilous suit…
now, minotwat, i know you’re desparately trying to spin this as a “now you like him, before you didnt ” argument.. us liking him is not even the point. .the point is when someone turns on thier master, especially a master belonging to a party that equates dissent with treason, thats a signifigant and noteworthy event. thus, with these cultists, seeing them lie to try and defend bush is not so surprising.. but the idea that they would lie to attack him, and therefore burn bridges without any justification, is alot harder to swallow….. its the simple fact that a bushie supporting bush and a bushie bashing bush are NOT equally signifigant events…
November 9th, 2007 at 7:51 ammore simply put, I pay more attention when I see a fish flying than I do when I see a fish swimming..
November 9th, 2007 at 8:29 amBut that was okay because FDR was a democrat.
Comment by Beefeater
No it wasn’t ok.
And if the person doing what Bush is doing was a Democrat, we would all be criticizing him or her too. In case you haven’t noticed, Democrats don’t march in lock step and are not shy in criticizing their own for not doing the right thing. Unlike the lemming Republicans who are all following Bush off a cliff.
Comment by bilbobaggins — November 8, 2007 @ 10:31 pm
Don’t forget that LBJ was a Democrat, and when he was making a mess out of Vietnam, we WERE criticizing him (”hey, hey, LBJ, how many kids did you kill today?”). And when Clinton got busted for his sexual behavior (and subsequent legalistic weaseling), most of us felt his actions were unseemly, and we said so — even if we didn’t think his offenses were worthy of impeachment.
I can’t think of anything the Democrats have done that compares with the lockstep mindset of the Bush apologists. The Bush dittoheads are even more rabid than Nixon’s defenders were.
November 9th, 2007 at 9:02 amThis “Administration” is so putrid that even a few of the more robust maggots are gagging.
That does not make them less robust, or less maggots, or less the cause of the mess in the first place. To notice the corruption now is to discover a thorn in a hundred square miles of Texas prickly pear.
November 9th, 2007 at 10:28 amSEEMS LIKE TOO MANY PROGRESSIVES ARE READY TO AGREE WITH, EVEN FORGIVE RIGHT WING ENEMIES WHO HAVE VIOLATED OUR REPUBLIC’S CORE PRINCIPLES (i.e. democracy, the Bill of Rights, morality) SIMPLY BECAUSE THOSE ENEMIES ARE NOW VOCALLY DISTANCING THEMSELVES FROM AN UNPOPULAR REPUBLICAN MASS MURDERER.
November 9th, 2007 at 10:37 amWhat? Are you all nuts?
The last administration that had to deal with an attack on our soil rounded up as many of the Japanese on the west coast as they could. But that was okay because FDR was a democrat.
Comment by Beefeater — November 8, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
No it was not OK. And it was not OK that radar was switched off in Pearl Harbor on that fateful morning in 1941, since false or inaccurate information was given about the Japanese heading toward the Philippines instead of Hawaii. Conspiracy or Coincidence? FDR was looking to get into war.
Generally, Democrats used to be better at helping average people, and Republicans have always supported the rich. There were of course exceptions. Eisenhower was actually one of my favorites and LBJ and Truman were one of my least favorites in my life.
Now, you have to take each as an individual, and not as a party, as witnessed by the folding of the Democrats. Both parties are involved in the destruction of the Constitution.
November 9th, 2007 at 10:47 amBrain From Planet Arous writes: “And it was not OK that radar was switched off in Pearl Harbor on that fateful morning in 1941, since false or inaccurate information was given about the Japanese heading toward the Philippines instead of Hawaii. Conspiracy or Coincidence? FDR was looking to get into war. ”
The Japanese squadron was cited on radar but NOT identified as Japanese. The American forces at Pearl Harbor were ILL PREPARED FOR AN ATTACK, BY THEIR OWN COMMANDERS! That could hardly be FDR’s fault! So if you all want to believe the Grand Conspiracy Theory about FDR fueling up the Jap planes and giving them ground control guidance to Pearl Harbor, I got some news for you. A warning went out from State and the FDR administration to beware an attack. Because the military comanders DROPPED the ball does not prove FDR sabotaged his own beloved Navy. And here’s another scholarly piece to chew on…”The garrison at Pearl Harbor was alerted against “a surprise aggressive move in any direction”…”the argument that President Roosevelt knew of the attack before it came and held back the information in order to justify going to war is without substance.” from The American Nation, author John Garraty copyright 1966 revised 1987.
November 9th, 2007 at 10:57 amAND ANOTHER THING! NO BODY BELIEVED THE JAPANESE HAD THE TECHNOLOGICAL CAPABILTY OF MOVING AN ENTIRE BATTLE GROUP ACROSS THE PACIFIC AND TAKING OUT OUR LARGEST MILITARY BASE OVERSEAS IN 1941 FOR CHRIST’S SAKE!!!
November 9th, 2007 at 11:09 amTake a look at a 1940 Chevrolet if you don’t believe me. Or a 1940 model Bell telephone! Believe it or not people, there was a time when technology involved CRANKING your phone by hand and hoping the cable hadn’t broken somewhere along the line (or that the neighbors weren’t mooching in on your PARTY LINE!!!) Satellites were not yet real, and cell phones
Speaking of Libby, I hope one day a PATRIOTIC agent of the CIA puts a BULLET through “cooterâ€â€™s head.
Sincerely,
NRA Gun Nutes
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — November 9, 2007 @ 11:21 am
BTW, have you heard that there appears to be a witch hunt right now in our Navy Nuclear Submarine Corps.? Apparently four nuclear attack sub captains (of the Jimmy Carter class) have been sacked. If you were a foreign power or insurgent group looking to take over a nation, you would one by one replace commanders with friendly allies. Question is, why are the patriots being sacked and is it part of a larger strategic maneuvre.
November 9th, 2007 at 11:43 amNow he’s concerned? He enabled the takeover of our country by the enemy force that is BushCo. So now he’s going to speak out to clear his name? Ha! These freaks who enabled Bush to ruin our country are all looking for absolution now that it is painfully apparent they’ve got the blood of our troops and innocent Iraqis on their hands. There will be no forgiveness for these sad excuses for human beings from the American people. Another one who should be thrown in prison for treason.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:34 pmComment by Beefeater — November 8, 2007 @ 9:39 pm
I LOVE the faux concern, beefeater. If you’d have been around in 1945, you would have been cheering Truman’s decision to drop the A-Bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and marching in lockstep, wholeheartedly behind his decision. You are one of those people, my country, right or wrong so I am not fooled by your sudden empathy. So don’t even pretend to have any concern when it’s clear you’re using your “concern” to score political points. You’re no better than the wingnuts who suddenly developed empathy and compassion for the gay people being murdered in Iran and the women of Iran. You guys had no compassion when those executions actually happened, but now that Bush is saber-rattling, you guys suddenly found it convenient to use those victims as talking points. You’re doing the same thing here, you didn’t give a shit about the victims of the A-BOMB but only to score cheap political points. Congratulations for showing what an empty-shell of a person you truly are.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:54 pm#2 said: The last administration that had to deal with an attack on our soil rounded up as many of the Japanese on the west coast as they could. But that was okay because FDR was a democrat.
I don’t know of a single Democrat who thinks FDR was right to inter the Japanese Americans in WWII. It was unconstitutional and WRONG for him to do so.
FDR is REVERED, or should be revered, because his policies pulled the Nation out of the depths of the REPUBLICAN GREAT DEPRESSION, and he successfully prosecuted WWII up until the time of his death.
Bush is REVILED, or should be reviled, because his presidency has been one long series of mind-boggling screw-ups: from not preventing 9/11; to getting us bogged down in the Iraqi quagmire; to the post-Katrina debacle; to the complete breakdown of federal health and safety regulation, as demonstrated by: the Sago mine disaster; the Utah mine disaster; the Minneapolis bridge collapse; the recall of toys with lead-based paint from China and, now, the recall of toys laced with “the date rape drug” from China.
It is truly AMAZING that there is still 1% of the population who think DUMBAYA is the “best president ever.” (But, then, again, all of those folks are “off their meds.”
November 9th, 2007 at 3:05 pmPredictions of the next 911 by a Professional Geologist.
http://www.H2onE2.com Glacial Respiration, Conceptual Ring of Ice, The End of Linear Western Religion
A Geological Exploration of an E2 Earthen Planet And the H2 Human Species
Author: B Billy Marse, Professional Geologist
Brief Description:
http://www.H2onE2.com is an exploration of the universe, geology, climate, biology, humans, psychology, folklore and ancient structures to uncover the beginning and disclose the end of linear western religion. The true DaVinci Code behind the bible is not a supreme spiritual power but a scientific record of climate change described as Glacial Respiration. The Greek philosophers originated the practice of communicating a hidden idea or message in the short story format, as a metaphor. In the bible, metaphors conceal historic climate change within the fanciful stories. The theory of Glacial Respiration explains the myth behind the Holy Grail, structures such as the Great Pyramids, Stonehenge, Easter Island and is the knowledge that was collected in the Jewish Ark of the Covenant.
The environmental changes of Glacial Respiration determine all biological evolution and can explain why higher forms of intelligent humans developed. Further, Glacial Respiration releases the secret hidden by the Knights Templars, Masonic Order and all religions. Uncovers an advanced Blue-Blooded semi-industrial Atlantian Civilization that was built and destroyed many times over for the last million years. The book ends with an explanation of how linear western religion will be physically ended and describes the construction of the doomsday device capable of fulfilling its own self defining prophesy, “Revelationsâ€. H2onE2 is a mind-expanding experience that stimulates the soul, instinct, intellect and is an almanac to the past, present and future of humanity. Rise, awaken and evolve into H3 human consciousness.
The discovery:
November 9th, 2007 at 4:52 pmAs a Professional Geologist, I attempted to link the Dust Bowl/Great Depression to a pre-glacial condition or mechanism and ended up writing the book H2onE2. I felt that there was a strong connection between the Dust Bowl and transition back into Glacial Winter. I did notice that my professors scientifically crumbled every time I mentioned the relationship. I could not go back in time or locate indisputable proof. The proof came from understanding all educational disciplines including history and theology. I soon discovered that all religious text both eastern and western continually described significant climate change conditions relating to Glacial Respiration. For years I fought off mixing science and religion until I discovered that the origins of all religions were founded or created to help humans psychologically survive the harsh earthen environment. Without reason I soon accepted that the world’s complicated religions were the same. This came true and I continued to write and discover. Everything came into place as though I was unlocking a 10,000-year-old puzzle. I also realized this puzzle was opened before I discovered it, by someone else, some other group. If so, further understanding of this knowledge might be extracted from significant historical events. Lastly, this is the vital information needed to make future predictions.
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F@#$ BARRY RICHARDS.
TOO LITTLE TOO LATE.
I am sick to death of these losers helping Bush and then coming out like they are some big hero way too late.
November 9th, 2007 at 5:19 pm>The last administration that had to deal with an attack on our soil
by a COUNTRY… Not by 19 guys with box cutters, all of whom are now dead, and the approximately equal number of guys who helped them plan it. there is no coherent, congizable way to “declare victory” over a group of people who share some vauge idealogoical identity with a bunch of dead guys…its absurd..when someone shows me how can guarantee that there will be no al-queda 20 , 30, or 40 years from now, then i’ll start to believe you can call this a “war”. al-queda is much more an idea than an organization, and ideas, it is said, are bulletproof..
November 9th, 2007 at 6:17 pmAre the wee hours of the darkest nights starting to play with your mind Judge? Having trouble with your conscience? Have a nagging guilt eatting away at your soul? Do I think a speech is going to irradicate your personal hand at instilling Bush? Hell no! Here’s hoping you rot in your personal hell for the rest of your physical life, then begin your sentence for eternity in the actual Hell!
November 10th, 2007 at 6:35 pm