Right Wing Trumpets Global Warming Denial Of Discredited ‘TV Weatherman’
Right Wing Trumpets Global Warming Denial Of Discredited ‘TV Weatherman’
Yesterday, John Coleman, a founder of The Weather Channel, wrote an article for the International Climate and Environmental Change Assessment Project, a right-wing climate change skeptic site, claiming man-made global warming is just a “scam“:
It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create in allusion of rapid global warming.
As proof that the scientific consensus is a hoax, Coleman writes:
I say this knowing you probably won’t believe a me, a mere TV weatherman, challenging a Nobel Prize, Academy Award and Emmy Award winning former Vice President of United States. … I have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct.
The conservative blogosphere is pushing Coleman’s junk science today. Matt Drudge links to Newsbusters’ “marvelous” take on Coleman this morning. Red State, Qando, Sister Toldjah, and the Free Republic also join in by approvingly linking to Coleman’s piece.
The right wing should check Coleman’s credentials before touting his “scientific” work. As Coleman admits, his “expertise” is in weather — not climate change science. In fact, he “has been a TV weatherman since he was a freshman in college in 1953.”
Coleman came up with the “idea” for a 24-hour channel devoted to weather, but he ran the station for only one year. Since then, the Weather Channel has prominently embraced the fight against global warming:
“If The Weather Channel isn’t talking about climate change and global warming, who is?” said Kaye Zusmann, the vice president for program strategy and development for the network. “It’s our mandate.”
The Weather Channel is unlikely to hire its founder today. Heidi Cullen, the channel’s climate change expert, wrote last year that the American Meteorological Society should not give its “seal of approval” to any meteorologist who “can’t speak to the fundamental science of climate change.”
Although Coleman still refers to The Weather Channel as his “baby,” he recognizes that he’s no longer welcome there: “The bad guys took it away from me, but they can’t steal the fact that it was my idea and I started it and ran it for the first year.”
UPDATE: Kevin at DeSmogBlog has more.
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I don’t trust Dallas Rains or Johnny Mountain to be accurate, so why would I trust this weatherman?
November 8th, 2007 at 3:44 pmWe don’t need a TV weatherjerk to know which way the globe warms.
November 8th, 2007 at 3:47 pmTHE WEATHER CHANNEL® EXPLORES EFFECT OF GLOBAL WARMING ON RESIDENTS OF ALASKA
http://press.weather.com/index.php/press_releases/29.html
“Dr. Heidi Cullen, TWC’s climate expert, recently spent a week in the last frontier meeting with scientists and native Alaskans, including a rare meeting with a group of Inupiat Eskimos. In her exclusive reports, Dr. Cullen shares intriguing scientific facts about what is happening to the Alaskan climate, where the average winter temperature has increased more than six degrees since 1948, and explains how Eskimos with a centuries-old way of life may be forced to change with the climate. In fact, one village is being wiped off the face of the earth.”
November 8th, 2007 at 3:47 pmI have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct.
wow. if that’s the test for scientific thought/theory (notice no mention of consensus or outside verification, peer review), then i guess i’m a scientist too. and in that, ‘i know i’m correct.’
November 8th, 2007 at 3:49 pmDo a quick Google search on Mr. Coleman’s “weather credentials” to make such an “authoritative” judgment.
November 8th, 2007 at 3:49 pmWhy do conservatives hate our planet?
November 8th, 2007 at 3:50 pmI have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct.
I wonder WHICH “dozens” of “scientific” papers those would be.
Because I’m sure there ARE dozens of papers (some of them even legitimate) dismissing the possibility of man’s impact on climate change. I’m sure there are even websites that will lead you to them.
Doesn’t really compare to the HUNDREDS of papers from established and respected scientific organizations demonstrating the science of the phenomenon, but it sure sounds good in a sound bite. If you don’t pay attention TOO closely.
November 8th, 2007 at 3:51 pmwhen the ice age was over – everything melted.
what a panic there must have been at old great great great great great grandpa gore’s house
nothing more than and industry/tax hike machine for the lefties
November 8th, 2007 at 3:51 pm“I have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct.”
This is conservative logic in a nutshell: “I’m right because I know I am”
November 8th, 2007 at 3:52 pmand he’s one of the “smart” ones.
John Coleman used to do the weather on Chicago TV, He was a goofball on the air. One of my professors had him as a student when we went to college not sure if it was U of I or ISU. Anyhow he was a well known womanizer in school and if I am not mistaken he got busted for the same thing while on one of the major Chicago stations. I only bring this up to point out the character of yet another nut job.
November 8th, 2007 at 3:53 pmRUCurious:
Great allusion! After 20 years of schooling they put me on the dayshift too.
November 8th, 2007 at 3:53 pmI guess that for some people, its more important to be ‘right’ than it is to be ‘correct’.
Scratch a global warming denier, and you find an energy company just as in years past when you looked behind smoking defenders you’d find the tobacco industry.
November 8th, 2007 at 3:54 pmJohn was our wacky Chicago weatherman on one of the forerunners of “happy talk news.” he earned his spurs by being the only weatherman to forecast a blizzard that hit Chicago. A little known fact is that he ALWAYS predicted a calamity because as he stated they will forget if you are wrong and you will get credit if you are right.
November 8th, 2007 at 3:55 pmSame pattern here…he is the only contrary voice…therefore, he sees himself as the hero.
PS. He was a fun guy to watch on TV
I mean, come on… they have to turn to a freakin’ weatherman?
Are they that low on their supply of real scientists who’ll parrot their line?
And we’re supposed to trust this guy’s authority?
This just demonstrates as clearly as possible how little they have to work with.
November 8th, 2007 at 3:56 pmHow about this approach?
All global warming deniers could be asked to sign a binding agreement, mandating that if they are wrong about global warming and it turns out that the earth cannot sustain everyone who lives here, they will be the very first to be placed on ice floes, of which there should be many.
Although this might be too little, too late, it would, in a Darwinian sense, begin ridding the world of those whose actions are destructive toward both themselves and everyone else, eventually cleansing the gene pool.
November 8th, 2007 at 3:58 pmct> when the ice age was over – everything melted.
CT, I’m breaking my own rule by “feeding the troll”, but I hear these statements often.
The thaw of the iceage, the melting of the Russia/Alaska ice bridge, etc, took at least a thousand years. What we are seeing now is taking place in less than two decades.
Stop making a fool of yourself in public.
November 8th, 2007 at 4:00 pmI can see it now: Jack Coleman & Rupert Murdoch combine forces to create…
FOX WEATHER CHANNEL
Where it’s always 76 degrees with only a 20% chance of precipitation…because they say it is. And they know they’re right.
November 8th, 2007 at 4:00 pmI can see it now: Jack Coleman & Rupert Murdoch combine forces to create…
FOX WEATHER CHANNEL
Where it’s always 76 degrees with only a 20% chance of precipitation…because they say it is. And they know they’re right.
Comment by slappy magoo — November 8, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
That is so GD perfect, I’m jealous.
November 8th, 2007 at 4:03 pmWow — and I just made a reply to TCDon in the thread about using executive privilege and the eviscerated portions of a global warming paper. Since I’m being lazy today, I’ll just repost it here:
“If the founder of The Weather Channel spoke out strongly against the manmade global warming myth, might media members notice?”
Comment by TCDon — November 8, 2007 @ 10:28 am (on other thread)
If John Coleman is listened to, it wouldn’t be because he founded the Weather Channel, it would be because he’s supposedly a meteorologist (at least he calls himself one) — putting him in with all the other scientists who have spoken on the issue.
(At least, we assume he has a degree in meteorology — all we really know about his background is his work as a television weatherman.)
But no matter. Al Gore doesn’t have a degree in meteorology, nor has he worked as a television weatherman, nor has he founded any cable television channels.
So why do people listen to him? Because he brings plausible evidence to the table. Because he doesn’t say “believe this is true because I say so†— instead he says “look at what’s happening here; look at these trends; look at this evidence.â€
If Al Gore deserves to be heard, I suppose John Coleman does, too. So I looked at your linked article. Nowhere does Coleman present any evidence to support his position. He doesn’t even present any data to debunk what Al Gore and the scientific community have put forth.
All he says is “I have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct.â€
This is not convincing. If he wants to be listened to, he needs to produce some actual support for his position. And this is the case no matter how many cable channels he’s founded.
Comment by missmolly — November 8, 2007 @ 11:42 am
November 8th, 2007 at 4:05 pmThe smell of desperation on the right is thick today.
November 8th, 2007 at 4:05 pmOh lord. What a moron.
November 8th, 2007 at 4:08 pmWell, according to Kurt Vonnegut you are all robots, so clearly climate change must be the figment of my imagination.
Sloppy, sloppy solopsism.
November 8th, 2007 at 4:08 pmWell, on the plus side, at least the guy actually bothered to read a scientific paper.
Baby steps, folks … baby steps.
:-)
November 8th, 2007 at 4:09 pmmissmolly> Al Gore …, nor has he founded any cable television channels.
Slight correction. Ever hear of Current TV? :)
November 8th, 2007 at 4:10 pmSlight correction. Ever hear of Current TV? :)
Comment by Mugsy — November 8, 2007 @ 4:10 pm
Hey, you’re right! OK, score = Al Gore, 1 TV channel; John Coleman, 1 TV channel. Scientific background is probably about the same, too.
November 8th, 2007 at 4:13 pmI can see it now: Jack Coleman & Rupert Murdoch combine forces to create…
FOX WEATHER CHANNEL
Where it’s always 76 degrees with only a 20% chance of precipitation…because they say it is. And they know they’re right.
Comment by slappy magoo — November 8, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
That is so GD perfect, I’m jealous.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — November 8, 2007 @ 4:03 pm
I’m positively LOL at the idea of “we report, you decide” being applied to the weather. What’s next — sports scores?
November 8th, 2007 at 4:16 pmTV Weathermen don’t know their ass from their weatherchart. The sad thing about his statements is that while probably not knowingly evil, then are nonetheless. I guess since he’s going to be kicking the bucket pretty soon, he doesn’t have to deal with it, might as well take whatever money he can grab now. Immoral.
November 8th, 2007 at 4:25 pmI say this knowing you probably won’t believe a me
You know what, dude? You’re right.
November 8th, 2007 at 4:27 pmcan see it now: Jack Coleman & Rupert Murdoch combine forces to create…
FOX WEATHER CHANNEL
Where it’s always 76 degrees with only a 20% chance of precipitation…because they say it is. And they know they’re right.
Comment by slappy magoo — November 8, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
And if you leave Florida because of the Hurricane, you’re helping the terrorists.
November 8th, 2007 at 4:32 pmPS. He was a fun guy to watch on TV
Comment by pat of wheaton — November 8, 2007 @ 3:55 pm
I agree. I remember him from the early days of Good Morning America, and he WAS a fun guy to watch on TV. Of course, he’s far better at being entertaining and reading off a teleprompter than he is at climate science.
November 8th, 2007 at 4:37 pm*cough* pssstt you need to fix this.
November 8th, 2007 at 4:38 pmGee I wonder if the right wing pundits can get PeeWee Herman to give his opinion. They are really scraping the bottom for viewpoints.
November 8th, 2007 at 4:39 pmWell, of course, the Bible says that Jesus will return before Man destroys the Earth. I’m reassured.
November 8th, 2007 at 4:40 pmThe Muslims, Hindus, Pagans, Taoists, and on and on are all reassured as well
November 8th, 2007 at 4:44 pmGee I wonder if the right wing pundits can get PeeWee Herman to give his opinion. They are really scraping the bottom for viewpoints.
Comment by texaslady — November 8, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
I hear that Howdy Doody is also available, for a modest fee.
November 8th, 2007 at 4:51 pmPS. He was a fun guy to watch on TV
Comment by pat of wheaton — November 8, 2007 @ 3:55 pm
I agree. I remember him from the early days of Good Morning America, and he WAS a fun guy to watch on TV. Of course, he’s far better at being entertaining and reading off a teleprompter than he is at climate science.
I was a little kid when he was on in Chicago. He used the same line every day…”Tonight’s Forecast, DARK”. And every time he said that I’d scream to my mom, “This guy’s the biggest jerk on TV!”. I remember those days well.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:04 pmI was a little kid when he was on in Chicago. He used the same line every day…â€Tonight’s Forecast, DARKâ€. And every time he said that I’d scream to my mom, “This guy’s the biggest jerk on TV!â€. I remember those days well.
Comment by 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda — November 8, 2007 @ 5:04 pm
Geez — that line isn’t even original. He stole that from George Carlin.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:06 pmOh, well if he read “dozens” of articles on global warming, (with or without understanding them), then he must be right. 2 dozen articles must be at least 0.1 % of the literature on the topic. Not to mention that he didn’t say if the articles he chose to read are balanced or not and what his scientific background is.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:09 pmYeah, I remember coleman too, he used to use the the word “thorms” in place of thunder storms. he’s so smart.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:09 pmOh, well if he read “dozens†of articles on global warming, (with or without understanding them), then he must be right. 2 dozen articles must be at least 0.1 % of the literature on the topic. Not to mention that he didn’t say if the articles he chose to read are balanced or not and what his scientific background is.
Comment by MapleStreet — November 8, 2007 @ 5:09 pm
No.. Actually a dozen sounds about right, if you’re only counting the GCC deniers. That might be the total research THEY’VE done on the subject. Obviously the man knows what he’s talking about.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:11 pmI’m glad he “thought about it.”
November 8th, 2007 at 5:11 pmThat makes him different from most of the right wing.
Crackpot Coleman: “It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create in allusion of rapid global warming.”
Right. On the one side, motivation is “environmental and political” and on the other side the motivation is hundreds of billions in profits.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:13 pmI’ve read hundreds of science fiction novels, and thought about them.
I am therefore an expert at nano technology, warp/light speed and all things alien.
Watch it, Kodos!
November 8th, 2007 at 5:22 pmOh, but wait. I forgot. “The debate is over,†and “95% of all scientists agree with AlGore.†B.S. The debate is far from over.
Comment by TCDon — November 8, 2007 @ 5:30 pm
That’s what the Venusians said too!
November 8th, 2007 at 5:36 pmAnother right-wing a*****e. Nice.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:38 pmSee http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p357.htm
Listed here are the approximately 19,000 signers of this petition debunking “global warming.†Qualification to be a signatory requires that the individual have a university degree in physical science, either BS, MS, or PhD. Those with MS or PhD degrees are so designated. Those with BS degrees are undesignated or sometimes designated as MD if appropriate.
The Petition reads in pertinent part as follows:
There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.
http://www.oism.org/pproject/
Oh, but wait. I forgot. “The debate is over,†and “95% of all scientists agree with AlGore.†B.S. The debate is far from over.
Comment by TCDon — November 8, 2007 @ 5:30 pm
19,000…. um… try 2,500
http://www.energyadvocate.com/petiproj.htm
November 8th, 2007 at 5:38 pmComment by TCDon — November 8, 2007 @ 5:30 pm
There are thousands of people who believe that the earth is flat, too. This proves nothing – not even that the subject is worthy of debate.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:39 pmOh, but wait. I forgot. “The debate is over,†and “95% of all scientists agree with AlGore.†B.S. The debate is far from over.
Comment by TCDon — November 8, 2007 @ 5:30 pm
A more accurate description would be that Al Gore agrees with 95% of independent researchers. The “debate” comes, almost exclusively, from those with substantial financial, religious, or political interests in a contrary position.
Also, please explain, again; how does protecting the environment (which we need to exist) harm the human race?
November 8th, 2007 at 5:39 pmFor those of you who don’t live in San Diego. This guy is the biggest joke on any of the local news channels. They put him on in the morning for a few minutes, they all laugh and joke with him; about 20 minutes later they have a younger and brighter weatherman come in and really gives us the day’s/week’s forecast. He’s the old grandpa slowly loosing his mind that no one has the heart to fire. I was laughing when I saw his picture on the site.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:44 pmListed here are the approximately 19,000 signers of this petition debunking “global warming.†Qualification to be a signatory requires that the individual have a university degree in physical science, either BS, MS, or PhD. Those with MS or PhD degrees are so designated. Those with BS degrees are undesignated or sometimes designated as MD if appropriate.
Comment by TCDon — November 8, 2007 @ 5:30 pm
Petitions mean nothing. Qualifications mean nothing. You have no comcept of the scientific method. If you want to disprove global warming then submit a scientifc paper for peer review. If your paper can convince the scientific community (stand up to peer review) then your theory will become accepted. Right now Global Warming is THE theory. It has stood up to peer review over 1000 times! That’s a helluva lot of peer review. Your statement “The debate is far from over” reveals your true intentions. You want to continue a public arguement, not a scientifc process of verification. You can argue all you desire with uneducated stooges. But you’ll NEVER convice anyone with any degree of intellect or ability to reason. Have fun “debating” morons. You know even the Church eventually had to apologize for locking Galileo up for claiming the Earth is not the center of the Universe. However that apology didn’t come until many decades after it was fact. Here’s your opportunity to not be quite so stupid. So do you want to apologize today?
November 8th, 2007 at 5:46 pmAs usual, TC Don, gives us a link to a site run by a discredited former scientist who is now funded by Exxon-Moble. And, in addition, Fredrick Seitz was once a director and shareholder of a company that operated coal-fired power plants.
On top of that, Dr. Seitz is a former President of the National Academy of Sciences, but the Academy disassociated itself from Seitz in 1998 when Seitz headed up a report designed to look like an NAS journal article saying that carbon dioxide poses no threat to climate. The report, which was supposedly signed by 15,000 scientists, advocated the abandonment of the Kyoto Protocol. The NAS went to unusual lengths to publically distance itself from Seitz’ article.
So again, the issue of “motivations.” On the one side, we’re told motivation is “politics and environmental.” On the other side we have the corporate profits of energy companies.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:52 pmTC Don, did you realize that the National Academy of Sciences had discredited and distanced itself from Fredrick Seitz and that his organization was one of the many funded by Exxon-Moble? Does that matter to you? Does that in any way kind of remind you of “The Tobacco Insitute?”
November 8th, 2007 at 5:57 pmYou don’t need a weather man to know which way the wind blows ….
November 8th, 2007 at 6:04 pmDon, a thinking person would question whether or not there even WAS 19,000 signatures since he pulled the same scam in the late 90’s saying there was 15,000 signatures when there was in reality less than 2500. Besides, as you guys like to point out at opportune moments, you could easily find 19,000 signatures of people claiming to know there are extraterrestrials studying the planet.
But, my point is that you’re siting a petition pushed by someone paid by Exxon-Mobile. If you don’t see a problem with that, then critical thinking is not your strong suit.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:07 pmTCDim says: “Attach Seitz all you want to”
I would love to attach him to an anchor and let him do some deep sea exploration.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:09 pmTCDon:
What proof would you require to admit that global warming is here, and is in large part man-made?
Name a criterion. Name the size of a study. Name an organization to referee the study.
Any scientist can tell you the answer to the question, “What evidence would it take to make you abandon your theory?”
what would it take?
In the early Ninneties I was a decied global warming skeptic. I was a big believer in global homeostasis, and felt that we couldn’t affect the climate that much.
But I followed the research. and as more and more data became available, I became a believer. The doubts I had were put to rest. I was wrong, and I admit it.
You’re obviously harder to convince than myself, so I ask you, what sort of study are you waiting for? What result?
November 8th, 2007 at 6:14 pmTCDon, you provide a link to 19000 scientists in ‘physical sciences’. Curious as to why it doesn’t say what everyone’s PhD in. So for all we know, it could be the signatures of right wing botanists.
And still, like it even matters. You can produce 19000 deniers, and the rest of the scientific community can produce ten fold of that number who will say global warming is real.
And like Gov Arnie recently observed “If I ask the opinion of 100 doctors, and 98 tell me one thing, and 2 tell me something to the contrary, I will go with the 98″
November 8th, 2007 at 6:14 pmTC Don: If you don’t see a problem with that, then critical thinking is not your strong suit.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — November 8, 2007 @ 6:07 pm
November 8th, 2007 at 6:14 pmTC Don: If you don’t see a problem with that, then critical thinking is not your strong suit.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — November 8, 2007 @ 6:07 pm
It is apparent that all forms of thinking are not his strong suit.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:15 pmHello? TCDon? Any response?
Someone look under the bridge..
November 8th, 2007 at 6:15 pmAgain, in the 60’s, the “Tobacco Insitute” paid people with credentials as Doctors and Scientists to say as intelligently as possible that cigarettes did not cause lung cancer. The institute was funded by a consortium of tobacco-producing corporations trying to protect profits. TC Don, can we, as a society, learn anything from this?
November 8th, 2007 at 6:17 pmHello? TCDon? Any response?
Someone look under the bridge..
Comment by swordsbane — November 8, 2007 @ 6:15 pm
Did you try looking in his mother’s basement?
November 8th, 2007 at 6:18 pmIt never ceases to amaze me how anyone can think that pumping millions of tons of toxic chemicals into our environment will have no negative affect on the earth.
How about we pump those toxic chemicals into their house? Do they think it would have no affect on their health?
November 8th, 2007 at 6:18 pmpbg: “But I followed the research. and as more and more data became available, I became a believer. The doubts I had were put to rest. I was wrong, and I admit it.”
You da man!
November 8th, 2007 at 6:19 pm“TB, do you ever have anything intelligent to say”
November 8th, 2007 at 6:22 pmComment by TCDon — November 8, 2007 @ 6:18 pm
Of course I do and unlike you I am not wrong all the time.
It never ceases to amaze me how anyone can think that pumping millions of tons of toxic chemicals into our environment will have no negative affect on the earth.
This is what the end result is of 20 million morons in this country who get their news from talk radio.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:25 pmYes and we all know how often the weatherman is correct in his predictions!
November 8th, 2007 at 6:25 pmTC Don: “Ripper, I don’t care so much about the person “pushing†the petition. To me, the people signing it are far more important.”
Fair enough. If you look at the petition, in alphabetical order, the first signer is Earl Aagaard, PhD,
November 8th, 2007 at 6:27 pmProfessor of Biology at something called Pacific Union College. He is a believer in creationism and has written articles attacking the scientific principle of evolution. As such, he is well out of the mainstream of science. Not a very good start, Don. How many more creationist crackpots are on the list?
TC Don: “Sure, Ripper. I can learn that many scientists were wrong in the 60’s, just as many scientists may be wrong now.”
Don, you’re making me think I’m debating a crazy person. The point was not that these “scientists” were wrong. It was that they were being paid by corporations to say what those corporations wanted them to say. Get it?
November 8th, 2007 at 6:29 pmhaha, its finally happening. You know you guys made it up to pass environmental legislation. I don’t even believe that environmentalists still actually believe in global warming.
Its a noble lie though, it seams like the greens had run out of wolves and they discovered the final, ultimate wolf, one that would finally convince humanity to abandon industrial civilization.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:31 pmTCDON
Are you still to cowardly to debate the merits of climate change with me, one on one?
November 8th, 2007 at 6:32 pmNot a very good start, Don. How many more creationist crackpots are on the list?
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — November 8, 2007 @ 6:27 pm
That’s the point. They don’t check the list to make sure everyone even meets their qualifications, so if you don’t know them.. chances are no one does. This way, they can just say “Hey, we got X number of people to sign our petition.” and if they get 19,000 ferrets with pens taped to their tails, they’re happy.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:32 pmcorrection: too cowardly
November 8th, 2007 at 6:33 pmThe wingnuts have lost this argument long ago. People can split hairs all day long about data and measurements, but the bottom line is we cannot continue to run our planet the way we have been for the last 100 years.
How can using less energy be a bad thing? How can finding a new energy source other than oil be a bad thing? How is conservation a bad thing?
No wingut could disagree with this, unless they are the typical Hannity listening jackass who thinks the world revolves around them and their Mc Mansion and their Hummer SUV, and they don’t want to give up their ‘lifestyle’ of being extraordinarily wasteful.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:34 pmIts a noble lie though, it seams like the greens had run out of wolves and they discovered the final, ultimate wolf, one that would finally convince humanity to abandon industrial civilization.
Slipperly slope argument, DING, you lose. Next, any takers?
November 8th, 2007 at 6:35 pmAgain. How does protecting the environment (which we need to exist) harm the Human race?
November 8th, 2007 at 6:35 pmNotice that TC Don just wants the debate to continue. Presuming that the scientific consensus is correct (as supported by the vast majority of peer reviewed studies) then it would only be prudent to take action. TC Don is just like most conservatives, create a false controversy to prevent any action that may impact their economic or political interests.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:37 pmHow does protecting the environment (which we need to exist) harm the Human race?
You know what it harms? It harms the wingnuts sense of being 100% right all the time about everything. Even when confronted with overwhelming evidence, the wingnuts still believe what their talk radio hosts tell them to.
A study was done on this recently, I forget exactly where, but it concluded that people who identify as idiots, I mean conservatives have a much harder time accepting change when faced with evidence that shows their beliefs are incorrect. They still cling on to their beliefs, whatever they may be, due to them feeling scared about being wrong, or scared to confront change in the world. They need their juvenile emotional comforts to assure them like timid schoolchildren.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:39 pmtroll technique #34:
November 8th, 2007 at 6:40 pma whole bunch of people make objections to your post. Many of them detailed and substantive.
Ignore them.
Instead, find theone response who is the most angry and least substantive. Argue about spelling. Insult the insulter, snd say how that’s typical liberal behavior.
Congratulations! You’ve succeded in dodging a real dialogue while preserving the appearance of one.
They still cling on to their beliefs, whatever they may be, due to them feeling scared about being wrong, or scared to confront change in the world. They need their juvenile emotional comforts to assure them like timid schoolchildren.
Comment by Colony of Birchmen — November 8, 2007 @ 6:39 pm
I highly recommend “The Authoritarians” I couldn’t sleep until I had finished. And I haven’t slept well since.
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
November 8th, 2007 at 6:46 pmjmklien: “Its a noble lie though, it seams like the greens had run out of wolves and they discovered the final, ultimate wolf, one that would finally convince humanity to abandon industrial civilization.”
What a load of bull! Abandon industrial civilization? Who do you think manufactures solar panels and windmills – hunters and gatherers sitting around a campfire? And to use the words “noble lie” is rich. The father of neocon philosophy, Leo Strauss coined the term “noble lie.” He felt that “special gentlemen” should be secretly running things with “noble lies.” Talk about projection!
November 8th, 2007 at 6:49 pmSwordsbane, exactly. The problem they face with this approach today, though, is summed up in one word: Google.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:51 pmIt’s kind of pathetic, really. TC Don claims to be a lawyer, but when I get into the subject of “motive,” he stares off into space and pretends the issue doesn’t matter.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:55 pmhaha, its finally happening. You know you guys made it up to pass environmental legislation. I don’t even believe that environmentalists still actually believe in global warming.
Its a noble lie though, it seams like the greens had run out of wolves and they discovered the final, ultimate wolf, one that would finally convince humanity to abandon industrial civilization.
Comment by jmklein — November 8, 2007 @ 6:31 pm
See… they have to morph every so often so that we lose track of who’s shouting at us now.
jmklein: Get up to speed on the conversation. If you have something NEW to say. I’m all ears. Otherwise… I think there’s still room under the bridge.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:55 pmColony of Birchmen: “How is conservation a bad thing?”
It hurts oil industry corporate profits.
How is universal healthcare a bad thing? It hurts insurance industry corporate profits.
How is peace a bad thing? It hurst military industrial complex corporate profits.
Do we see a pattern yet?
November 8th, 2007 at 7:10 pmI forgot a very, very important one. How is publically financing all federal elections a bad thing?
It hurts media industry corporate profits.
November 8th, 2007 at 7:12 pmIt hurts oil industry corporate profits.
Bingo, Col.
Just like the same reason as the failed War on Drugs will continue; who will fill all those privately built prisons?
November 8th, 2007 at 7:23 pmColony: “Just like the same reason as the failed War on Drugs will continue; who will fill all those privately built prisons?”
Not to mention pharmaceutical industry corporate profits. Addictive, mood-altering pills are a $20 billion a year business segment. Those CEO’s wouldn’t want people addressing their anxieties or sleep disorders with an herb, would they.
November 8th, 2007 at 7:31 pmAs two other people have stated, Coleman was the goofball weather man in Chicago for years. He wore stupid getups on the air, hardly ever got the weather right and then disappeared. Some years later I was visiting either San Diego or Dallas and saw him again and yes, he was still behaving like a clown. So this is the “authority” on global warming?
November 8th, 2007 at 7:39 pmI remember Coeman from his days as a Chicago weatherman. He was a goofball then also.
November 8th, 2007 at 9:01 pmThis guy is now on KUSI in San Diego, where his main gimmick is saying the station call letters, “kay uuuuuuuuuuuuuu(high squeak) ess eye” and getting the weather wrong. Funny too that he thinks competence in starting a TV channel has anything to do with having an informed opinion on a scientific matter. The dude is nothing but a bad entertainer (and maybe a decent producer). He’s not a climatologist or scientist of any sort. Why does he think his opinion matters at all, and why is anyone giving him any sort of public forum?
November 8th, 2007 at 9:47 pmSorry to spoil your party,little moonbats..but Newsbusters.org just BUSTED your asses on this story! Better go see…have fun wiping the coffee spittle off your screens!
November 8th, 2007 at 11:55 pmSorry Ellsworthless. TP quoted Al Gore, who has repeated the findings of various scientists. He names his sources, admits there is uncertainty, and claims no expertise in climatology. By his own admission he’s “just a spokesman”.
Coleman, on the other hand, claims “I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct.” He presented his opinion as though he had collected and analyzed data to reach a legitimate conclusion. He didn’t, so far as I have read, identify his sources or admit the possibility of error.
In light of these facts, I don’t think the story is “busted” at all. But then, my brain has benefited from being human. Troll brains, however, are slightly less evolved.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:24 amSorry to spoil your party,little moonbats..but Newsbusters.org just BUSTED your asses on this story! Better go see…have fun wiping the coffee spittle off your screens!
Comment by Ellsworth — November 8, 2007 @ 11:55 pm
het ellsworth, newsbusters has the same credibility as Cheney; Zero! but keep swallowing the administrations lies while you suck them off, and stay on your knees so you won’t be knocked down again.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:36 amThis guy’s story strikes me as very sad, actually. He had a great business idea and now the grown ups have taken over. And all he has left is giving talking points to nutty websites.
Very sad.
November 9th, 2007 at 4:37 amPredictions of the next 911 by a Professional Geologist.
http://www.H2onE2.com Glacial Respiration, Conceptual Ring of Ice, The End of Linear Western Religion
A Geological Exploration of an E2 Earthen Planet And the H2 Human Species
Author: B Billy Marse, Professional Geologist
Brief Description:
http://www.H2onE2.com is an exploration of the universe, geology, climate, biology, humans, psychology, folklore and ancient structures to uncover the beginning and disclose the end of linear western religion. The true DaVinci Code behind the bible is not a supreme spiritual power but a scientific record of climate change described as Glacial Respiration. The Greek philosophers originated the practice of communicating a hidden idea or message in the short story format, as a metaphor. In the bible, metaphors conceal historic climate change within the fanciful stories. The theory of Glacial Respiration explains the myth behind the Holy Grail, structures such as the Great Pyramids, Stonehenge, Easter Island and is the knowledge that was collected in the Jewish Ark of the Covenant.
The environmental changes of Glacial Respiration determine all biological evolution and can explain why higher forms of intelligent humans developed. Further, Glacial Respiration releases the secret hidden by the Knights Templars, Masonic Order and all religions. Uncovers an advanced Blue-Blooded semi-industrial Atlantian Civilization that was built and destroyed many times over for the last million years. The book ends with an explanation of how linear western religion will be physically ended and describes the construction of the doomsday device capable of fulfilling its own self defining prophesy, “Revelationsâ€. H2onE2 is a mind-expanding experience that stimulates the soul, instinct, intellect and is an almanac to the past, present and future of humanity. Rise, awaken and evolve into H3 human consciousness.
The discovery:
November 9th, 2007 at 4:55 pmAs a Professional Geologist, I attempted to link the Dust Bowl/Great Depression to a pre-glacial condition or mechanism and ended up writing the book H2onE2. I felt that there was a strong connection between the Dust Bowl and transition back into Glacial Winter. I did notice that my professors scientifically crumbled every time I mentioned the relationship. I could not go back in time or locate indisputable proof. The proof came from understanding all educational disciplines including history and theology. I soon discovered that all religious text both eastern and western continually described significant climate change conditions relating to Glacial Respiration. For years I fought off mixing science and religion until I discovered that the origins of all religions were founded or created to help humans psychologically survive the harsh earthen environment. Without reason I soon accepted that the world’s complicated religions were the same. This came true and I continued to write and discover. Everything came into place as though I was unlocking a 10,000-year-old puzzle. I also realized this puzzle was opened before I discovered it, by someone else, some other group. If so, further understanding of this knowledge might be extracted from significant historical events. Lastly, this is the vital information needed to make future predictions.
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NO ‘Consensus’ on “Man-Made” Global Warming
Skeptical Scientists:
A. Alan Moghissi, Ph.D. Physical Chemistry, Technical University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Aksel Wiin-Nielsen, Professor of Geophysical Science, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
Alfred H. Pekarek, Ph.D. Geology, Associate Professor of Geology, St. Cloud State University, USA
Allan M.R. MacRae, B.Sc., M.Eng., P.Eng, Canada
Andreas Prokoph, B.Sc. Geology, Ph.D. Earth Sciences, University Tubingen, Germany
Anthony R. Lupo, Ph.D. Atmospheric Science, Purdue University, USA
Antonino Zichichi, Professor Emeritus of Advanced Physics, University of Bologna, Italy
Arthur B. Robinson, Ph.D. Chemistry, University of California, San Diego, USA
Arthur Rorsch, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Molecular Genetics, Leiden University, The Netherlands
Ben Herman, Ph.D. Atmospheric Sciences, University of Arizona, USA
Bob Durrenberger, Retired Climatologist, Former President of the American Association of State Climatologists, USA
Boris Winterhalter, Ph.D. Geology, Helsinki University, Finland
Bruce N. Ames, Ph.D. BioChemistry, California Institute of Technology, USA
Bruno Wiskel, B.Sc. Honours Geology, University of Albert, Canada
Carl Johan Friedrich (Frits) Böttcher, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Physical Chemistry, University of Leiden, The Netherlands
Charles Gelman, B.S. Chemistry, M.S. Public Health, University of Michigan, USA
Chauncey Starr, Ph.D. Physics, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, USA
Chris de Freitas, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Geography and Environmental Science, University of Auckland, New Zealand
Christiaan Frans van Sumere, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Biochemistry, University of Gent, Belgium
Christopher Essex, Ph.D. Applied Mathematics Professor, University of Western Ontario, Canada
Christopher Landsea, Ph.D. Atmospheric Science, Colorado State University, USA
Claude Allegre, Ph.D. Physics, University of Paris, France
Clinton H. Sheehan, Ph.D. Physics, University of Western Ontario, Canada
Craig D. Idso, M.S. Agronomy, Ph.D. Geography, Arizona State University, USA
Daniel B. Botkin, Ph.D. Biology, Rutgers University, USA
David Deming, B.S. Geology, Ph.D. Geophysics, University of Utah, USA
David E. Wojick, B.S. Civil Engineering, Ph.D. Mathematical Logic, University of Pittsburgh, USA
David Evans, B.Sc. Applied Mathematics and Physics, M.S. Statistics, Ph.D. Electrical Engineering, Stanford, USA
David G. Aubrey, B.S. Geological Sciences, Ph.D. Oceanography, University of California at San Diego, USA
David J. Bellamy, B.Sc. Botany, Ph.D. Ecology, Durham University, UK
David L. Hill, Ph.D. Physics, Princeton, USA
David Nowell, M.Sc. Meteorology, Royal Meteorological Society, Canada
David R. Legates, Ph.D. Climatology, University of Delaware, USA
Dennis P. Lettenmaier, Ph.D. Professor of Hydrology, University of Washington, USA
Don J. Easterbrook, Ph.D. Geology, University of Washington, USA
Donald G. Baker, Ph.D. Soils, Geology, University of Minnesota, USA
Douglas V. Hoyt, Solar Physicist and Climatologist, Retired, Raytheon, USA
Duncan Wingham, Ph.D. Physics, University of Bath, UK
Eckhard Grimmel, Ph.D. Geography, University of Hamburg, Germany
Edward Wegman, Ph.D. Mathematical Statistics, University of Iowa, USA
Eigil Friis-Christensen, Ph.D. Geophysics, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
Elliot Abrams, M.S. Meteorology, Penn State, USA
Eric S. Posmentier, Adjunct Professor of Earth Sciences, Dartmouth, USA
Fred Michel, B.Sc. Geological Sciences, M.Sc. Earth Sciences, Ph.D. Earth Sciences, University of Waterloo, Canada
Fred W. Decker, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Atmospheric Sciences, Oregon State University, USA
Frederick Seitz, Ph.D. Physics, Princeton University, USA
Freeman Dyson, Professor Emeritus, Physics, Princeton, USA
G. Cornelis van Kooten, B.Sc. Geophysics, Ph.D. Agricultural & Resource Economics, Oregon State University, USA
Gabriel T. Csanady, Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering, University of New South Wales, Australia
Garth Paltridge, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus, Institute of Antarctic and Southern Ocean Studies, University of Tasmania, Australia
Gary D. Sharp, Ph.D. Marine Biology, University of California, USA
Gary Novak, M.S. Microbiology, USA
George E. McVehil, B.A. Physics, M.S. Ph.D. Meteorology, AMS Certified Consulting Meteorologist, USA
George H. Taylor, M.S. Meteorology, University of Utah, USA
George Kukla, Micropalentologist, Special Research Scientist of Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, Columbia University, USA
George V. Chilingarian, Ph.D. Geology, University of Southern California, USA
George Wilhelm Stroke, Ph.D. Physics, University of Paris, France
Gerd-Rainer Weber, Ph.D. Consulting Meteorologist, Germany
Gerhard Gerlich, Ph.D. Physics, Technical University of Braunschweig, Germany
Gerrit J. van der Lingen, PhD Geology, New Zealand
Gordon E. Swaters, Ph.D. Applied Mathematics and Physical Oceanography, University of British Columbia, Canada
Graham Smith, Associate Professor of Geography, University of Western Ontario, Canada
H. Grant (H.G.) Goodell, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia, USA
Harry N.A. Priem, Professor Emeritus of Isotope and Planetary Geology, Utrecht University, The Netherlands
Hendrik Tennekes, Former Director of Research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute, The Netherlands
Henrik Svensmark, Solar System Physics, Danish National Space Center, Denmark
Henry R. Linden, Ph.D. Chemical Engineering, Illinois Institute of Technology, USA
Howard C. Hayden, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Physics, University of Connecticut, USA
Hugh W. Ellsaesser, Ph.D. Meteorology, Formerly with Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, USA
Ian D. Clark, Professor Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa, Canada
Ian Plimer, Professor of Mining Geology, University of Adelaide, Australia
Indur M. Goklany, Ph.D. Electrical Engineering, Indian Institute of Technology, India
Jack Barrett, Ph.D. Physical Chemistry, Manchester, UK
James O’Brien, Ph.D. Meteorology, Texas A&M University, USA
Ján Veizer, Professor Emeritus, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa, Canada
Jay H. Lehr, Ph.D. Groundwater Hydrology, University of Arizona, USA
Jennifer Marohasy, Ph.D. Biology, University of Queensland, Australia
Joseph (Joe) P. Sobel, Ph.D. Meteorology, Penn State, USA
Joel Schwartz, B.S. Chemistry, M.S. Planetary Science, California Institute of Technology, USA
John E. Gaynor, M.S. Meteorology, UCLA, USA
John R. Christy, Ph.D. Atmospheric Sciences, University of Illinois, USA
Joseph Conklin, M.S. Meteorology, Rutgers University, USA
Joseph D’Aleo, M.S. Meteorology, University of Wisconsin, USA
Keith D. Hage, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Meteorology, University of Alberta, Canada
Keith E. Idso, Ph.D. Botany, Arizona State University, USA
Kelvin Kemm, Ph.D. Nuclear Physics, Natal University, South Africa
Kenneth E.F. Watt, Ph.D. Zoology, University of Chicago, USA
Khabibullo Abdussamatov, Ph.D. Astrophysicist, The University of Leningrad, Russia
Klaus Wyrtki, Ph.D. Oceanography, Physics, Mathematics, University of Kiel, Germany
Lee C. Gerhard, Ph.D. Geology, University of Kansas, USA
Luboš Motl, Ph.D. Theoretical Physicist, Harvard, USA
Madhav Khandekar, Ph.D. Meteorology, Florida State University, USA
Manik Talwani, Ph.D. Physics, Columbia University, USA
Marcel Leroux, Professor Emeritus of Climatology, University of Lyon, France
Mel Goldstein, Ph.D. Meteorology, NYU, USA
Michael Crichton, A.B. Anthropology, M.D. Harvard, USA
Michael D. Griffin, B.S. Physics, M.S. Applied Physics, Ph.D. Aerospace Engineering, University of Maryland, USA
Michael Savage, B.S. Biology, M.S. Anthropology, M.S. Ethnobotany, Ph.D. Nutritional Ethnomedicine, USA
Michael R. Fox, Ph.D. Physical Chemistry, University of Washington, USA
Michel Salomon, M.D. University of Paris, Director, International Centre for Scientific Ecology, France
Neil Frank, Ph.D. Meteorology, Florida State University, USA
Nils-Axel Mörner, Professor Emeritus of Palegeophysics and Geodynamics, Stockholm University, Sweden
Nir J. Shaviv, Ph.D. Astrophysicist, Israel Institute of Technology, Israel
Norman Brown, Professor Emeritus of Chemistry, University of Ulster, UK
Ola M. Johannessen, Professor, Nansen Environmental and Remote Sensing Center, Norway
Olavi Kärner, Ph.D. Senior Research Associate, Atmospheric Sensing Group, Tartu Astrophysical Observatory, Estonia
Oliver W. Frauenfeld, Ph.D. Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia, USA
Paavo Siitam, M.Sc. Agronomist, Canada
Paul Copper, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Earth Sciences, Laurentian University, Canada
Paul Driessen, B.A. Geology and Field Ecology, Lawrence University, USA
Paul Reiter, Professor of Medical Entomology, Pasteur Institute, France
Patrick J. Michaels, Ph.D. Ecological Climatology, University of Wisconsin-Madison, USA
Patrick Moore, B.Sc. Forest Biology, Ph.D. Ecology, University of British Columbia, Canada
Petr Chylek, Ph.D. Physics, University of California, USA
Philip Stott, Professor Emeritus, Department of Biogeography, University of London, UK
Piers Corbyn, B.Sc Physics, M.Sc Astrophysics, Queen Mary College, UK
R. Timothy (Tim) Patterson, Ph.D. Professor of Geology, Carleton University, Canada
Randall Cerveny, Ph.D. Geography, University of Nebraska, USA
Reid A. Bryson, B.A. Geology, Ph.D. Meteorology, University of Chicago, USA
Richard C. Willson, Ph.D. Atmospheric Sciences, University of California Los Angeles, USA
Richard S. Courtney, Ph.D. Geography, The Ohio State University, USA
Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT, USA
Roger A. Pielke (Sr.), Ph.D. Meteorology, Penn State, USA
Rob Scagel, M.Sc., Forest Microclimate Specialist, Canada
Robin Vaughan, Ph.D. Physics, Nottingham University, UK
Robert C. Balling Jr., Ph.D. Professor of Climatology, Arizona State University, USA
Robert C. Whitten, Physicist, Retired Research Scientist, NASA, USA
Robert Giegengack, Ph.D. Geology, Yale, USA
Robert H. Essenhigh, M.S. Natural Sciences, Ph.D. Chemical Engineering, University of Sheffield, UK
Robert Johnston, M.S. Physics, B.A. Astronomy, USA
Robert L. Kovach, Professor of Geophysics, Stanford University, USA
Robert (Bob) M. Carter, B.Sc. Geology, Ph.D. Paleontology, University of Cambridge, Australia
Roy Spencer, Ph.D. Meteorology, University of Wisconsin, USA
S. Fred Singer, Ph.D. Physics, Princeton University, USA
Sallie Baliunas, Ph.D. Astrophysics, Harvard, USA
Sherwood B. Idso, Ph.D. Soil Science, University of Minnesota, USA
Simon C. Brassell, B.Sc. Chemistry & Geology, Ph.D. Organic Geochemistry, University of Bristol, UK
Sonja Boehmer-Christiansen, Ph.D. Department of Geography, University of Hull, UK
Steve Milloy, B.A. Natural Sciences, M.S. Health Sciences, Johns Hopkins University, USA
Stephen McIntyre, B.Sc. Mathematics, University of Toronto, Canada
Sylvan H. Wittwer, Ph.D. Horticulture, University of Missouri, USA
Syun-Ichi Akasofu, Ph.D. Geophysics, University of Alaska, USA
Tad S. Murty, Ph.D. Oceanography and Meteorology, University of Chicago, USA
Thomas Schmidlin, Ph.D. Professor of Geography, Kent State University, USA
Timothy (Tim) F. Ball, Ph.D. Geography, Historical Climatology, University of London, UK
Tom Harris, B. Eng. M. Eng. Mechanical Engineering (thermo-fluids), Canada
Tom V. Segalstad, B.S. Geology, University of Oslo, Norway
Vern Harnapp, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Geography, University of Akron, USA
Vincent Gray, Ph.D. Physical Chemistry, Cambridge University, UK
W. Dennis Clark, Ph.D. Botany, Sacramento State College, USA
Wibjorn Karlen, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Physical Geography and Quaternary Geology, Stockholm University, Sweden
William B. Hubbard, Ph.D. Professor of Planetary Atmospheres, University of Arizona, USA
William Cotton, M.S. Atmospheric Science, Ph.D. Meteorology, Pennsylvania State University, USA
William E. Reifsnyder, B.S. Meteorology, M.S. Ph.D. Forestry, Yale, USA
William J.R. Alexander, Professor Emeritus, Department of Civil and Biosystems Engineering, University of Pretoria, South Africa
William (Bill) M. Gray, M.S. Meteorology, Ph.D. Geophysical Sciences, University of Chicago, USA
Willie Soon, Ph.D. Astrophysics, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, USA
Wolfgang Thüne, Ph.D. Geography, University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Zbigniew Jaworowski, M.D. Ph.D. D.Sc., Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection, Poland
Meteorologists:
A.J. Colby, B.S. Atmospheric Sciences, AMS Certified Meteorologist, Meteorologist WKYC-TV, USA
Andre Bernier, B.S. Meteorology, Lyndon State College, Meteorologist WJW-TV, USA
Anthony Watts, AMS Certified Meteorologist, Chief Meteorologist KPAY-AM, USA
Arlo Gambell, AMS Certified Meteorologist, USA
Art Horn, B.S. Meteorology, Lyndon State College, Meteorologist WVIT-TV, USA
Asmunn Moene, former Chief Meteorologist, Oslo, Norway
Austin W. Hogan, AMS Certified Meteorologist, USA
Bill Meck, Chief Meteorologist WLEX-TV, USA
Bill Steffen, Meteorologist WOOD-TV, USA
Bob Breck, B.S. Meteorology & Oceanography, University of Michigan, Chief Meteorologist WVUE-TV, USA
Brad Sussman, Meteorologist, USA
Brian Sussman, Meteorologist, USA
Bruce Boe, Director of Meteorology Weather Modification Inc., USA
Bruce Schwoegler, B.S. Meteorology, University of Wisconsin-Madison, USA
Christopher Plonka, Meteorologist USAF, USA
Craig James, B.S. Meteorology, Penn State University, Chief Meteorologist WOOD-TV, USA
Dan Maly, Retired Meteorologist WOIO-TV, USA
David Aldrich, B.S. Meteorology, North Carolina State University, Meteorologist WTXF-TV, USA
Dick Goddard, Chief Meteorologist WJW-TV, USA
Don Webster, Retired Meteorologist WEWS-TV, USA
Douglas Leahey, Meteorologist, Canada
Eugenio Hackbart, Chief Meteorologist MetSul Meteorologia Weather Center, Brazil
Herb Stevens, Meteorologist WNYT-TV, USA
James Spann, AMS Certified Meteorologist, Chief Meteorologist WCFT-TV, WJSU-TV, USA
Jason Russell, Meteorologist, WTEN-TV, USA
Joe Bastardi, B.S. Meteorology, Penn State, Expert Senior Forecaster AccuWeather, USA
John Coleman, Meteorologist, Founder of ‘The Weather Channel’, Chief Meteorologist KUSI-TV, USA
Jon Loufman, Meteorologist WOIO-TV, USA
Justin Berk, B.S. Meteorology, Cornell University, AMS Certified Meteorologist, Meteorologist WMAR-TV, USA
Karl Bohnak, B.S. Meteorology, University of Wisconsin, AMS Certified Meteorologist, Meteorologist WLUC-TV, USA
Kevin Lemanowicz, B.S. Meteorology, Cornell University, Chief Meteorologist WFXT-TV, USA
Kevin Williams, B.S. Meteorology, Cornell University, Chief Meteorologist WHEC-TV, USA
Lee Eddington, Meteorologist Geophysics Branch, U.S. Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division, USA
Mark Koontz, Meteorologist WFMJ-TV, USA
Mark Breen, B.S. Meteorology, Lyndon State College, Senior Meteorologist Fairbanks Museum and Planetarium, USA
Mark Johnson, AMS Certified Meteorologist, Chief Meteorologist, WEWS-TV, USA
Nick Morganelli, Free-Lance Meteorologist, USA
Richard (Rich) Apuzzo, Chief Meteorologist Skyeye Weather, USA
Roy Leep, B.S. Meteorology, Florida State University, Meteorologist WTVT-TV, USA
Sally Bernier, B.S. Meteorology, Lyndon State College, Meteorologist WJW-TV, USA
Shane Hollett, Meteorologist WMJI-FM, USA
Steven Nogueira, NWS Senior Meteorologist, USA
Terry Eliasen, B.S. Meteorology, University of Massachusetts Lowell, Meteorologist WBZ-TV, USA
Thomas B. Gray, M.S. Meteorology, USA
Tim Kelley, B.S. Meteorology, Lyndon State College, Meteorologist NECN, USA
Tom Chisholm, B.S. Atmospheric Sciences, Lyndon State College, Chief Meteorologist WMTW-TV, USA
William Kininmonth, M.Sc, Colorado State University, Retired Head of Australian Bureau of Meteorology, Australia
Social Scientists:
Andrey Illarionov, Ph.D. Economics, St. Petersburg University, Russia
Benny Peiser, Ph.D. Professor of Social Anthropology, Liverpool John Moores University, UK
Bjørn Lomborg, Ph.D. Political Science, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
Daniel R. Simmons, B.A. Economics, Utah State University, USA
Dennis Avery, M.S. Agricultural Economics, The University of Wisconsin-Madison, USA
James Inhofe, B.A. Economics, University of Tulsa, USA
John J. Ray, Ph.D. Psychology, Macquarie University, Mensa, Sydney, Australia
Marlo Lewis, B.A. Political Science, Ph.D. Government, Claremont McKenna College, USA
Margo Thorning, Ph.D. Economics, University of Georgia, USA
Myron Ebell, M.Sc. Economics, London School of Economics, USA
Richard Tol, Ph.D. Economics, Vrije Universiteit, The Netherlands
Richard W. Rahn, Ph.D. Business Economics, Columbia University, USA
Robert Bradley, B.A. Economics, Ph.D. Political Economy, University of Houston, USA
Robert Higgs, Ph.D. Economics, Johns Hopkins University, USA
Roger A. Pielke (Jr.), Ph.D. Political Science, University of Colorado, USA
Ross McKitrick, Ph.D. Economics, University of British Columbia, Canada
Thomas A. Birkland, Ph.D. Political Science, University of Washington, USA
Thomas Gale Moore, Ph.D. Economics, University of Chicago, USA
Vaclav Klaus, app. Ph.D. Economics, University of Economics, Prague, Czechoslovakia
William Nordhaus, Ph.D. Economics, MIT, USA
Deceased:
November 10th, 2007 at 7:05 pmAdrian H. Gordon, Meteorologist, University of South Australia, Australia (Died: April 12, 2000)
August H. Auer Jr., Professor Emeritus of Atmospheric Science, University of Wyoming, USA (Died: June 10, 2007)
Duwayne M. Anderson, Professor Emeritus of Geology, Texas A&M University, USA (Died: October 4, 2002)
George H. Sutton, Professor Emeritus of Geophysics, University of Hawaii, USA (Died: January 25, 2004)
Heinz Lettau, Professor Emeritus of Geophysics, University of Wisconsin, USA (Died: August 4, 2005)
Helmut Metzner, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Botany, University of Tubingen, Germany (Died: September 20, 1999)
James P. Lodge Jr., Ph.D. Consultant in Atmospheric Chemistry, USA (Died: December 14, 2001)
John R. Apel, Ph.D. Physics, Johns Hopkins University, USA (Died: August 16, 2001)
Larry H. Brace, B.S. Physics, University of Michigan, USA (Died: August 28, 2005)
Michael J. Higatsberger, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Experimental Physics, University of Vienna, Austria (Died: January 7, 2004)
Paul Handler, Professor Emeritus of Physics, University of Illinois, USA (Died: January 24, 1998)
Robert E. Stevenson, Ph.D. Oceanography, University of Southern California, USA (Died: August 12, 2001)
Roland (R.A.D.) Byron-Scott, Senior Lecturer Emeritus in Meteorology at Flinders University, Australia (Died: January, 2004)
Thomas Gold, Professor Emeritus of Astronomy, Cornell University, USA (Died: June 22, 2004)
Tor Ragnar Gerholm, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Physics, University of Stockholm, Sweden (Died: June 27, 2007)
William (Bill) A. Nierenberg, Ph.D. Physics, Columbia University, USA (Died: September 10, 2000)
William Mitchell, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Physics, University of Oxford, UK (Died: October 30, 2002)
Background on the OISM. It is always good to consider the source of any information.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=Oregon_Institute_of_Science_and_Medicine
Of course this is sourcewatch which is WIKI structured, but it presents much doubt as to the validity of OISM.
November 12th, 2007 at 10:30 pmName calling the number one tool of the liberal. How about this one. I live in a northern state towards the middle of the country. I like global warming. Longer summers, extended growing periods, and best of all, a 20 foot high increase of our coastlines would mean most of the major cities on the west and east cost would become part of the oceans. Sounds good to me. I think I’ll burn some old tires this week in your honor.
November 15th, 2007 at 12:33 pmIt’s the way of the left to try to put down those who don’t believe the way they do. You can hand them the fact on a silver platter and they won’t take it.
November 28th, 2007 at 9:28 amLook around you people. The oceans have expanded ~1.8mm/ year for the past 300 years. If it wasn’t for “global warming” the earth would shift the other way…. global cooling.
I’m with fromerliberal… bring it on. I enjoy warm bar-b-queing on Christmas!
get the facts:
http://www.co2science.org/scripts/CO2ScienceB2C/articles/V10/N47/EDIT.jsp