Lieberman: ‘Paranoid, Hyper-Partisan’ ‘Left-Wing Blogs’ Wrote ‘Conspiracy Theories’ On Iran
Lieberman: ‘Paranoid, Hyper-Partisan’ ‘Left-Wing Blogs’ Wrote ‘Conspiracy Theories’ On Iran
Speaking today at the Johns Hopkins Center for Politics and Foreign Relations, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) accused “left-wing blogs” of making up “conspiracy theories” about the Kyl-Lieberman amendment, which passed the Senate last month. It designated part of the Iranian army a terrorist organization. Lieberman called opponents of the amendment “politically paranoid” and “hyper-partisan.”
He also claimed that the “amendment contained nothing” that could be seen “as a green light” for war:
These were absurd arguments. The text of our amendment contained nothing–nothing–that could be construed as a green light for an attack on Iran. To claim that it did was an act of delusion or deception.
On the contrary, by calling for tougher sanctions on Iran, the intention of our amendment was to offer an alternative to war.
Lieberman’s argument is the only “deception” going on. It didn’t take “conspiracy theories” to realize that the amendment would move America closer to war with Iran. In the original version of the bill, which was only changed after pressure from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), language was included that explicitly endorsed the use of “military instruments” against Iran:
(4) to support the prudent and calibrated use of all instruments of United States national power in Iraq, including diplomatic, economic, intelligence, and military instruments, in support of the policy described in paragraph (3) with respect to the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran and its proxies.
Even after the “military instruments” language was removed from the amendment, the final bill still shifted America into a more war-prone posture. As Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) noted at the time, just labeling Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp as “a foreign terrorist organization” could “mandate” the military option against Iran:
It could be read as tantamount to a declaration of war. What do we do with terrorist organizations? If they are involved against us, we attack them.
Given the language of the bill and Lieberman’s previous calls for “aggressive military action” against Iran, progressive blogs were hardly “delusional” in warning against the dangers of the amendment. But Lieberman would rather lash out at straw men caricatures of “left-wing blogs” and “hyper-partisans” than deal with legitimate criticism.
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Neo Nuts can’t handle any form of legitimate criticism.
November 8th, 2007 at 4:56 pmI believe the crap coming out of his mouth about as much as I do the crap coming out of Bush’s mouth.
November 8th, 2007 at 4:58 pmPal Joey is a full-time nut.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:02 pmSenator Lieberman: you are a worthless lying traitor…
November 8th, 2007 at 5:04 pmAs Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) noted at the time, just labeling Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp as “a foreign terrorist organization†could “mandate†the military option against Iran:
Does Lieberman ever tells the truth ?What a shameless liar he his.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:08 pmAhh the age old question eh TCDon?
November 8th, 2007 at 5:11 pmWhat do we do with terrorist organizations? If they are involved against us, we attack them.
Unless, of course, they happen to be in Pakistan.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:14 pmUnless, of course, they happen to be in Pakistan.
Or the White House.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:17 pmTCDon: “delusional libs can’t handle the truth.”
Delusional???!!! This from someone who thinks Bush is a great president.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:18 pmJebus. Joe – STFU. You’re embarrassing. Truly.
Seek help.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:19 pmProject much LIEman?
November 8th, 2007 at 5:20 pmWhat do we do with terrorist organizations? If they are involved against us, we attack them.
Unless, of course, they happen to be in Pakistan.
Comment by Badger — November 8, 2007 @ 5:14 pm
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Unless, of course, they happen to be in Pakistan.
Or the White House.
Comment by RUCerious — November 8, 2007 @ 5:17 pm
Or in Saudi Arabia.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:20 pmGo Joe! You keep telling it like it is even if the delusional libs can’t handle the truth.
Comment by TCDon — November 8, 2007 @ 5:07 pm
You wouldn’t know the truth if it hit you on the head with a 10 pound sledge.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:21 pmHuh.
I guess that “I” in I-CT stands for “Idiot”.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:22 pmlabeling Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp as “a foreign terrorist organization†could “mandate†the military option against Iran:
That is a green light to attack Iran. By calling a portion of the Iranian military a terrorist organization it allows Bush to use previously passed bills such as the AUMF as cover to attack inside Iran.
That is the truth TCDon. Do you understand this? Do you see where an attack could fall under this? If you don’t then your just as dense as I believe you to be. But if you do then you will see that Lieberman is lying here.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:23 pmMy bad, in truth, I thought TCDon a fool….
From Wikipedia not the finest source I will admit but I think you all get the point
The meaning of the word truth extends from honesty, good faith, and sincerity in general, to agreement with fact or reality in particular. The term has no single definition about which the majority of professional philosophers and scholars agree. Various theories of truth continue to be debated. There are differing claims on such questions as what constitutes truth; how to define and identify truth; the roles that revealed and acquired knowledge play; and whether truth is subjective, relative, objective, or absolute
November 8th, 2007 at 5:25 pmI’d like to see the Iraqi government declare Blackwater a terrorist organization.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:30 pmThere are differing claims on such questions as what constitutes truth; how to define and identify truth; the roles that revealed and acquired knowledge play; and whether truth is subjective, relative, objective, or absolute
Comment by dbadass — November 8, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
You mean truthiness?
November 8th, 2007 at 5:31 pmWhy is Loserman trying to deny that he is doing everything in his power to try to force America into fullfilling his strongest desires?
November 8th, 2007 at 5:32 pmWho the hell does he think he is fooling?
He runs around in all of the right wing circles, drooling over the possiblities of bombing Iran.
You could say that bombing Iran is the only thing Loserman has on is mind these days.
We’re trying to stop the insane bastard.
I think what TragicallyControlledDon is trying to say is “Oh yeah, well sez you”.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:36 pmLieberman, you self-serving, POS! Have you no sense of decency?
November 8th, 2007 at 5:36 pmThe worse things become for the repugs, the more joe, the traitor, Lieberman will speak out like this outrage.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:43 pmHe must realize that he made a horrible choice in backing Bush and betraying his Connecticut democrats, but he can’t accept it, so he condemns those who tell the truth. Many of the same claims are being made now about Iran as were made about Iraq, but Joe, the traitor, won’t be having any of that in his pursuit of perpetual warfare.
Sometimes a politician makes it easy for observers to note their diminished capacity and the approach of dementia. They speak.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:48 pmThe only one here who is delusional is LIEberman.
Remember this quote folks. Then when Bush attacks Iran, citing the Kyl-Lieberman amendment, LIEberman will then have to condemn Bush for taking action that was not authorized in his bill.
I am so sick of LIEberman. It’s really too bad that he isn’t up for re-election in 2008. He would lose by a landslide to anyone who chose to run against him.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:53 pmClinton again? Well I see your Clinton and raise you a Nixon and Bush 41.
November 8th, 2007 at 5:53 pmWhy is Blackwater not a terrorist organization? Because they profess not to “target” civilians. Because they can redefine civilian casualties as collateral damage?
November 8th, 2007 at 5:56 pmWhat’s the difference between the relationships that exists between Christofascist GWB & his State Dep’t. and Blackwater, CACI, etc. and the relationship between some “Islamofascist” and his various and sundry militias and armed bands of religious enforcers?
Our mercenaries and their martyr brigades are both just paid killers for greedheads and/or religious fanatics. One for money, one for martyrdom.
Playing in the futures market I see TragicallyConfusedDon.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:06 pmGod may be on our side. Lieberman looks a bit piquied. He may not survive the next election cycle, at least in this life.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:06 pmGWB trumps anything you can dish out TCD.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:07 pmI am completely convinced that Joe Lieberman is an Isreali spy that managed to infiltrate our government.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:13 pmI’m tired of people that look out for Israel at all costs, including the detriment of America’s interests.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:26 pmWith the current administration, anything and everything was a “green light for war” against Iraq. Everything was later found to be a known lie at the time they said it. Why should we trust them again?
Richard Dearlove, head of British foreign intelligence (MI6) just said the claims of Iraq’s ties to al Qaeda were lies. He said the White House was set on invasion in June 2002 and the “evidence” would be fitted around the policy later.
60 Minutes just revealed that the lying Curveball was the sole source for Powell’s UN testimony.
Yellowcake from Africa was a lie based on a poor forgery. Aluminum tubes for nuclear weapons was a lie. The Mohammad Atta meeting in Prague was a lie. The shack in the north was a lie. The drones were a lie. “Ready to launch in 15 minutes” was a lie. Mobile weapons labs was a lie. 26,000 liters of anthrax; 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin; 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agents; and 30,000 munitions were lies.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:31 pmHoly Joe (or “Rape Gurney Joe”) sounds more and more like a wingnut every day. Did he EVER sound like a Democrat? OH, yeah, that’s right… when he was persuading Connecticut voters that he wasn’t REALLY a right-wing nut job…
How’d that work out for ya, Connecticut?
November 8th, 2007 at 6:42 pmTCDon played the “Clinton” card. That means he automatically loses.
Of course, whenever he logs on it’s the same result anyway…
November 8th, 2007 at 6:45 pmWell, if you didn’t mean that with the amendment, Joe, then pipe down! You’re sounding like the dog that got hit with the brick.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:47 pmRemember this quote folks. Then when Bush attacks Iran, citing the Kyl-Lieberman amendment, LIEberman will then have to condemn Bush for taking action that was not authorized in his bill.
bilbo, i appreciate your comments, & our thought that lieberman would have any shame about his hypocrisy is charming!
lieberman’s comments today are the same as the WAPO pieces that assert that BUSHâ„¢ is trying diplomacy, when there has been no evidence of that.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:54 pmbecause i assure you that when the ivasion of iran happens, not only will lieberman make no reference to his comments today, no one in the media will question him about it either.
…& we will see photos of him with that big wide dipsh*t smile of his.
November 8th, 2007 at 6:59 pmLieberman has been drumbeating for a war with Iran for sometime. He now claims leftists just making this up.
That’s why I did not believe Hillary Clinton when she said the same thing and she voted for Lieberman Bill to give diplomacy a chance…Ha ha ha
When Hillary and Lieberman called half of Iranian army terrorists and asked to put sanctions on Iran… then they were not seeking diplomacy and talking to Iranians,they were seeking a confrontation.
Diplomacy does not work that way.
Lieberman feeling the heat..and now he is trying to deflect his war intentions by accusing others of not really understanding him,calling them ‘conspiracy theorists’.
Lieberman think people are fools to believe his lies…he is easier to understand than most senators…because his intentions are well known about the Middle East and war with Iraq,Iran,Syria..etc etc..he is just another PNAC performer…
November 8th, 2007 at 7:13 pmGee joe how sweet , you noticed us . WE ARE EVERYWHERE !
November 8th, 2007 at 7:14 pmTC Don: “I’ll trump your Nixon and 41 with two Clintons and a Carter. Game over.”
Amazing. If we had followed Carter’s lead on energy, there would be no international terrorism problem. If we had followed Clinton’s lead on taxation and budget, the dollar wouldn’t be in the toilet. You really have no idea what you’re talking about, do you?
November 8th, 2007 at 7:41 pm…& we will see photos of him with that big wide dipsh*t smile of his.
Comment by grover nerdkissed — November 8, 2007 @ 6:59 pm
A more likely scenario could be that when Israel attacks Iran and Iran retaliates, the US will be pressured to defend its ally.
No need for Lieberman to apologize; his Ammendment had nothing to do with starting the war. It will all be blamed on “Iranian aggression” and the need to stop another Holocaust.
The MSM’s job will be to convince a sufficient number of Americans (it doesn’t have to be a majority) that Israel acted to defend itself.
When the word Holocaust is thrown out there and repeated a sufficient number of times, the public Pavlov’s dog reaction will kick in.
After all, aren’t people still repeating the (debunked) claim that Ahmadinejad threatened to “wipe Israel from the face of the earth”?
November 8th, 2007 at 7:55 pmHe should step back and look at himself. Mr. Paranoia with an AIPAC agenda. Nuf said.
November 8th, 2007 at 8:06 pmmy favorite conspiracy was created by lieberman himself when he was desperately trying to get elected and he kept saying he was gonna bring the troops home from iraq.
November 8th, 2007 at 8:07 pmhey joe – check this out:
Iraq Déjà Vu: Cheney Pressuring Intel Analysts, Stifling Dissent, Manipulating Intelligence
Gareth Porter of Inter Press Service reports that Vice President Cheney has been thwarting the release of a long-overdue National Intelligence Estimate on Iran because it doesn’t deliver the casus belli for war
…
whodduthunkit…
November 8th, 2007 at 8:34 pmI don’t EVER want anybody to give me guff for voting Nader again.
why did I vote for Nader? three reasons. Nafta, Workfare, and an unpleasant little man named Joe Lieberman.
how the man can call anyone “partisan” without bursting into flames, I don’t know.
November 8th, 2007 at 9:26 pmTraitor Joe LIEberman has become an extreme far-right goose-stepping freak, so who cares what that Bush loving fascist thinks or spews.
November 8th, 2007 at 9:29 pmJoe is the perfect Democrat….if you’re a Republican ‘24percenter’.
Isn’t there a way to revoke his Democratic membership?
He’s a “Democrat” in name only.
If it acts like a weasel, looks like a weasel, and smells like a weasel, just because it calls itself a Democrat it’s still a weasel.
November 8th, 2007 at 10:13 pmI live in CT and have to listen to this moron on a daily basis via our local news. He’s even worse than you think. Gore has to be embarrassed he picked this mentally unfit idiot for a running mate in 2000.
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I call I get to use LIEberman as my human shield when the TERRA-ists come a calling.
Hint: Aim for his big fat, white-haired melon of a head
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I don’t EVER want anybody to give me guff for voting Nader again.
why did I vote for Nader? three reasons. Nafta, Workfare, and an unpleasant little man named Joe Lieberman.
how the man can call anyone “partisan†without bursting into flames, I don’t know.
Comment by cage free brown — November 8, 2007 @ 9:26 pm
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I did not vote for Nader and your reasons for voting according to your principles makes me feel ashamed.
Yet, how do we solve the conundrum of voting for the “least of two evils”, without ending up with “evil”? I’d like to know, please.
November 9th, 2007 at 10:53 pm