Bush Sr. Attacks Iraq Regime Change Critics, Earlier Warned Of ‘Incalculable Human And Political Costs’
Bush Sr. Attacks Iraq Regime Change Critics, Earlier Warned Of ‘Incalculable Human And Political Costs’
In an interview with USA Today, President George H.W. Bush sticks up for his son’s disastrous decision to go to war in Iraq, attacking Iraq war critics as defenders of Saddam’s regime:
“Do they want to bring back Saddam Hussein, these critics?” the elder Bush told USA TODAY in a rare interview. “Do they want to go back to the status quo ante? I don’t know what they are talking about here. Do they think life would be better in the Middle East if Saddam were still there?“
Bush Sr.’s disingenuous attempts to paint Iraq war critics as coddlers of Saddam Hussein are an insult to his own intelligence. After all, Bush Sr. has offered the most cogent explanations for why regime change was a poor strategic decision. In his book, A World Transformed, Bush Sr. argued “incalculable human and political costs would have resulted from an Iraq invasion in 1991:
“Incalculable human and political costs” would have been the result, the senior Bush has said, if his administration had pushed all the way to Baghdad and sought to overthrow Saddam Hussein after the U.S.-led coalition ousted the Iraqi army from Kuwait during the Persian Gulf war in 1991. “We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect rule Iraq,” Bush wrote.
“The coalition would have instantly collapsed. … Going in and thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations mandate would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression we hoped to establish. “Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land. It would have been a dramatically different - and perhaps barren - outcome.”
In 1996, Bush Sr. wrote, “Removing [Saddam] from power might well have plunged Iraq into civil war, sucking U.S. forces in to preserve order. Had we elected to march on Baghdad, our forces might still be there.”
In Jan. 1996, Bush delivered an eloquent speech, arguing the “reason we didn’t go after Saddam is that our forces could well have bogged down in an urban guerrilla conflict in the streets of Baghdad.” “We would have instantly handed Saddam a victory out of the jaws of a humiliating defeat,” he said.
USA Today reports, “Bush dismissed a question about whether his son should have used similar reasoning before invading Iraq in 2003.” The Iraq war has validated Bush 41’s original concerns about an Iraq war. By now covering for his son’s failures, Bush Sr. is only serving to undermine his own record.
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Bullshit, Daddy, Bullshit!
November 9th, 2007 at 11:27 amPoppy’s losin’ it.
He must be so disappointed…
November 9th, 2007 at 11:27 amPoppy, why don’t you break down in tears like a 12 year old girl watching Charlotte’s Web?
You loser with the DNA depleted son who is ruining America.
Go and retire and take your newly adopted step-son Bill Clinton with you.
-GSD
Besides, apparently YOU thought it was OK to leave Saddam in power for another 12 years. Asshat.
November 9th, 2007 at 11:27 amI don’t know what they are talking about here. Do they think life would be better in the Middle East if Saddam were still there?“
It couldn’t possibly be worse. At least with Saddam they had power, water, food and an educational system. With Saddam they could walk down a street without the threat of being blown away by an insurgent or a mercenary.
A recent poll showed that a majority of the people in Iraq would rather live under Saddam’s regime than to be occupied by the United States.
November 9th, 2007 at 11:28 amWords of wisdom from “Fascist Papa Bush”. Yeah, I wanna go back…way back…back before your drunken, looser son “Fascist Baby Bush” was elected!! Is that back far enough “Papa”?? F**k you!!
November 9th, 2007 at 11:30 amOho! The “man behind the curtain at Oz” can’t resist the temptation to “out himself”. He’s going to be sorry he decided to take to the limelight and bring down the avalanche of evidence against him that has accumulated for decades. I knew he’d out himself before long…
November 9th, 2007 at 11:31 amThe Godfather speaks…….I always thought he is one of the puppetmasters, and Cheney and Dumbya are lower on the Neo-Con totem pole. The question is, who pulls his strings?
If that is true, then no wonder we are in such sorry shape. Bush Sr is thoroughly insane and sadistic, same as Dad Prescott, and same as grandpa Samuel.
November 9th, 2007 at 11:31 amOh boy, is that pic begging for a caption contest?
“Yes, this is the pistol Barbara used on me and the kids.”
“Is it too late to use this on junior?”
November 9th, 2007 at 11:31 amsadly, yes.
life would probably be better in the middle east, certainly iraq, with Saddam still in power. what does that tell ya about your stupid-ass son?
now put the gun down, george!
November 9th, 2007 at 11:35 am“…an insult to his own intelligence. ” How true
November 9th, 2007 at 11:35 amCaption,
November 9th, 2007 at 11:35 am‘Hmmm, look what I found in my Son’s ass…must have been from his Air Guard days; he’s always hiding something’.
shut up, old man. haven’t you and your morally bankrupt spawn done enough damage to this country.
November 9th, 2007 at 11:36 amI can’t say whether life would be better or not, but at least 600,000 more Iraqis would actually be ALIVE!
News Corpse, The Internet’s Chronicle Of Media Decay.
November 9th, 2007 at 11:37 amTherein lies the failed reasoning skills of neocons and Rape-Public-Cans. Everything is refined to dichotomous thinking. Black or white, all or nothing. Sadam or Freedom.
Yet another missed opportunity to learn from our failed foreign policy as we didn’t from Vietnam. Expect another clusterf%*k in about 15 years.
November 9th, 2007 at 11:39 amOn a daily basis I am left wondering how our Nation would be better if Barbara had just swallowed.
November 9th, 2007 at 11:40 amGo ahead. Poppy Poo…It isn’t that hard…just take the barrel, point it to your temple and squeeeeeeze….but WAIT before you do….
“Bill…get over here…yes..I mean you Bill Clinton!!”….
Ok, Poppy your illegitimate son, Bill is right here… And yes you can do Bill first…Go ahead ..thats right…Good job Poppy….now it’s your turn Poppi….
November 9th, 2007 at 11:43 amHe is one of the BIGGEST TRAITORS America has EVER seen, pardoning the Iran/Contra CRIMINALS and TERRORIST Orlando Bosch, still in Miami.
HIS father laundered Nazi money and had property seized in 1942 by the US Government for TRADING WITH THE ENEMY.
His SON is a MORON, LIAR, TRAITOR, and an AWOL coward coxucker PUNK.
70 years of Bush family TREASON against the USA.
Sincerely,
NRA Gun Nutes
November 9th, 2007 at 11:43 amThe Bush family has become shrill ! I say kick them out of the USA to their Paraguay compound where they can live as war criminals.
November 9th, 2007 at 11:43 amThe cost of 1 million per month to contain Iraq no fly zone and UN inspectors was just too costly. We had to act.
/snark off
What we spend in one day (besides the loss of life) we could have sat on Sadam and contained him for 36.5 YEARS. You do the math.
November 9th, 2007 at 11:44 amCaption: “Here it is — proof that Iraq had WMD. Straight from Saddam’s spider hole to right here in the Oval Office. Little Georgie was right after all.”
November 9th, 2007 at 11:46 amwhy is that man holding a gun?
November 9th, 2007 at 11:47 amThat is NO “man”.
Just a COWARDLY TRAITOR to the USA, like his WAR CRIMINAL son…
Sincerely,
NRA Gun Nutes
November 9th, 2007 at 11:48 am“why is that man holding a gun?
Comment by joe cantwell — November 9, 2007″
he’s trying, like his son, to be relevant
November 9th, 2007 at 11:49 amThat photo of Bush makes him look just like Barney Fife. Don’t be fooled. Remember this guy was once head of the CIA and he has a long and colorful career in skullduggery. Bush The Greater was in Dallas Texas the day JFK was shot dead. He was also linked to the failed Bay of Pigs fiasco (along with Nixon) for which JFK got blamed. BTW, Nixon was also in Dallas the morning JFK was shot. He had just flown out to LaGuardia Airport in New York as Kennedy was being beheaded.
November 9th, 2007 at 11:49 amThe apple does not fall far from the tree.
Poppy Bush sez: “I should have pulled out.”
November 9th, 2007 at 11:52 amSenility comes hard and fast for those (R) politicians, but what’s W’s excuse? A 30 year hangover? Too much blow for breakfast?
November 9th, 2007 at 11:53 amPoppy’s Poppy was a Nazi sympathizer and a grave robber of Native American corpses too.
Scum of the earth.
Please keep the girls gone wild twins away from public office.
-GSD
November 9th, 2007 at 11:53 amLike all the rest of the posts….
Caption…..Well, I had my chance to use this….but then again!
November 9th, 2007 at 11:54 amas a matter of fact, I DO want to bring back Saddam. i’d have alot more of my countrymen with me and I’d have about 9 trillion dollars to play with.
rot in hell you lying drug running war pig
November 9th, 2007 at 11:56 amWel, at least now me know where Bush Jr learned to lie.
November 9th, 2007 at 11:56 amOf course the reasoning behind Poppy’s change of heart:
November 9th, 2007 at 11:57 am9/11 changed everything.
yes, boy, Saddam, he had a way of being mean that is just impossible to replicate. makes you wonder why we sold him weapons for so many years..
November 9th, 2007 at 11:57 amrot in hell you lying drug running war pig
Amen.
Sincerely,
NRA Gun Nutes
November 9th, 2007 at 11:57 amPhoto Caption Contest…
November 9th, 2007 at 11:57 amBetter not do it… wouldn’t be prudent… Barbara would kill me.
Was life better for the Kurds after Sr cut and ran?
November 9th, 2007 at 11:59 amTrying to cover for his spoiled, rich-boy, idiot son… again. The boy has never had to answer for anything or any decision he’s ever made. Never had to face the reality or consequences of any of his actions. Daddy’s just doing what he’s always done.
November 9th, 2007 at 11:59 amCaption Contest-”Sweet, sweet release….”
November 9th, 2007 at 11:59 amI think that Barbara Bush sat on a sofa cushion that Richard Nixon must have spooged on.
Gee Dubya has the worst character traits ever.
-GSD
November 9th, 2007 at 12:00 pmTo answer Bush’s question, yes the area would have been better off with Saddam still there. Sanctions worked and the country was marginally stable. Today Iraq is a burned out shell of a country and the political climate is verging on anarchy. Heck of a job, Junior!
November 9th, 2007 at 12:00 pmhow many of you saddam haters wouldnt love to bomb and brutalize anyone alleged to be involved with al-queda as much as saddam brutalized those he considered enemies of the state?
thats why we liked saddam so much, he did all the nasty, brutal things to relgious nuts that we couldnt get away with. and if some innocent people got swept up in saddams nastyness sometimes..well.. you can’t make an Allah-omlette without breaking a few eggs..
November 9th, 2007 at 12:00 pmI was there in 1991, Mr. Bush. You and Cheney spent 1991-2001 justifying NOT invading Iraq and deposing Saddam Hussein. I’ve watched in horror over the past 4+ years as YOUR SON sent the next generation in to do what YOU told us (correctly) would be a disaster. You don’t get to change your mind now, sir.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:01 pmThe Bush Family Evil Empire themesong.
-GSD
November 9th, 2007 at 12:01 pmTrying to cover for his spoiled, rich-boy, idiot son… again. The boy has never had to answer for anything or any decision he’s ever made. Never had to face the reality or consequences of any of his actions. Daddy’s just doing what he’s always done.
Comment by WaltinTexas — November 9, 2007 @ 11:59 am
Judgement Day comes to us ALL.
Considering the LIES told, and the MURDER of a million Iraqis, many CHILDREN, Bush’s chances for the Pearly Gates don’t look too hot.
His MASTER Satan is gonna LOVE smashing Bush’s face in for ETERNITY.
And sticking white-hot pokers up Bush’s asz…
Sincerely,
NRA Gun Nutes
November 9th, 2007 at 12:03 pmYou know what I say?
November 9th, 2007 at 12:14 pm“Shove it where the sun don’t shine you @%?)*^# Bush”.
No family of rejects has ever done more harm to America then the Bush family.
GSD; thanks for the link. LOL!
November 9th, 2007 at 12:14 pmafter all this time the senile devil worshipping freak finally talks! His son GW has done a great job bringing this nation to ruin! But why should huge egg-head Humpty Dumpty GHW care? After all he’s much wealthier now! GW is busy destroying the american economy and the future of our children he’s doing a great job! trillions of dollars spent on a never ending pointless war pretty soon this country will be subdued and brought to its knees! The global elite can’t wait to bankrupt America so that they can impose their “new Order” … and as we speak the dollar is worth less and less! this was all planned! Bush’s “re-election” or “re-stolen” election was all they needed to bankrupt this country. This can’t be undone! In 7 years the lizard-lips bird-nosed freak has ruined this country. It took the romans centuries to bring Rome to its knees! GHW go home and bone your ugly plucked old bag hen and pretend we’re still in the 90’s.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:19 pmHmmm… no trolls.
Seems even the most boorish and idiotic of our regular trolls are unable to twist logic far enough to defend this kind of hypocricy.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:22 pmDo they think life would be better in the Middle East if Saddam were still there?“
Of course. Sadly, but of course.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:23 pmIn the immortal words of your own son:
Who cares what you think?
November 9th, 2007 at 12:26 pmOf course the reasoning behind Poppy’s change of heart:
9/11 changed everything.
Comment by GregM
Actually, Greg, Poppy and Brent Scowcroft both vocally and publicly declaimed the Iraq Invasion, in 2002 and 2003. Scowcroft was a burr in Gee W’s chaps for many months, especially when things went sour soon after the Invasion.
No, Poppy does NOT get to change his mind, especially since it’s all ending up in the toilet.
He barely escaped jail himself. Let’s see if Gee W can, too.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:32 pmRemember that villian in GI Joe who was created from the DNA of all other bad guys throughout history? What was his name? He was some sort of freakish snake mutant if I recall…does anyone remember? I wonder if they used any of Saddams DNA for him.. if so, maybe we can have him take over Iraq…
November 9th, 2007 at 12:37 pmCaption-
“I knew I should have used this on him, what was I thinking?”
Buck Fush
November 9th, 2007 at 12:38 pm.. Serpentor! thats it
http://www.joeheadquarters.com/arise.shtml
Serpentor/Putin for Iraqi President, 2008!
I wonder if doritos will sponsor this..
November 9th, 2007 at 12:40 pmhttp://www.joeheadquarters.com/images/Arise03.jpg
November 9th, 2007 at 12:41 pmREPUBLICANS = HYPOCRITES
1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
Their hypocrisy know no bounds
November 9th, 2007 at 12:48 pmHe is one of the BIGGEST TRAITORS America has EVER seen, pardoning the Iran/Contra CRIMINALS and TERRORIST Orlando Bosch, still in Miami.
Comment by Arn Gunnutes
Lets not forget about his buddy Noriega, first a great democracy defender and then, an evil murderer. It just depends on the POV at the moment (well, the interests I meant).
Or his defeat in Cuban shores.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:49 pmcorrection: Their hypocrisy knowS no bounds
November 9th, 2007 at 12:50 pmBeing a Republican means never having to say you’re sorry.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:50 pmok, this photo DEMANDS a caption contest!
“Despondent upon the realization that he sired the worst president in American history, Bush 41 considers extreme measures.”
November 9th, 2007 at 12:56 pmHonesty is admitting when your family member is wrong…obviously honesty, ethics and compassion is not a Bush family trait.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:00 pmBigfoot is free falling.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:07 pmh/t to Randi Rhodes …
How is it that One Family has associated itself with two of the US’ greatest enemies of the last century — Hitler and bin Laden?
Do you or your family even know anyone that has been involved in a murder? How ’bout mass murder? Isn’t it quite revealing that the Bush Crime Family has managed to associate itself with Hitler and the bin Laden family — not to mention the others that we know about and have been listed above (Noriega, Iran-Contra players, JFK enemies, etc.)?
November 9th, 2007 at 1:09 pmThe fantasy that Poppy Bush has of grandsons getting the White House, it will be generations before people forget the shame the Bush name brought to America. The grandsons better find other outlets to use others.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:15 pm“Do they want to bring back Saddam Hussein, these critics?†the elder Bush told USA TODAY in a rare interview. “Do they want to go back to the status quo ante? I don’t know what they are talking about here. Do they think life would be better in the Middle East if Saddam were still there?“
This sounds WAAAAAAAAAAAY too much like Squealer saying, “Surely you don’t want Jones to come back! Would you rather have Jones back?”
November 9th, 2007 at 1:16 pmThings change in a decade, folks. You know it, I know it.
Greg, Poppy and Brent Scowcroft both vocally and publicly declaimed the Iraq Invasion, in 2002 and 2003. -Daddy-O (about 9 posts above yours–did you read the thread before posting?)
Saddam has another 10 years of violating U.N. decrees and ignoring world opinion under his belt. His sons had come into their own as tyrants who would have assumed the throne.
So what, they were weak, and they were contained. They were also to a large degree, our creation. We also had a bigger problem that we should have been focusing on. bin Laden. Remember him?
Getting rid of all of them was the right thing to do. A solution that needed to be.
No, he was contained. It was an optional war. And the result has been a disaster.
Victory is at hand, people. Recognize that you were wrong to side with our enemies against the United States.
*Yawn*
Haven’t we been hearing this for 4 years now? And didn’t Patreus say that we’d be there for 10 more years? You better send him the memo.
Oh, and being against a war is not the same thing as siding with the enemy. You know it, I know it.
All the people want is an apology from the left for undermining the efforts of the United States. We are a forgiving people.
Don’t confuse kindness with weakness, however.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Ahh… but it is you that needs to apologize. You need to apologize to the families of the several hundred thousand iraqi civilians killed in this disastrous, ill planned, poorly executed, illegal war that you have supported.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:26 pmWelcome to the once great United States of America.
Where years after the Nuremberg trials we’d read our history books and smile and feel proud because we knew we had the moral high ground and had truly done what is right.
America, where when we were kids, we were the good guys.
America, the place where immigrants from all over the world could come and find a refuge from repression, murder and political intimidation.
America, where the middle class was alive and well and secured peace for more than sixty years.
America, where if anyone came here and said anything disparaging about us, we’d say, it’s not true, it’s not true, take it back!
America, where you’d hear people say, this is the greatest country on earth, and wouldn’t hesitate to agree.
America, where after 9/11 the world, including Iran mourned for all those innocent people.
America, where we squandered the good will of the world and became a country resembling a fearful, paralyzed, reactionary dictatorship, and lost the good will of the world, our moral high ground and any semblence of a strong, fearless, hopeful nation.
America, where have you gone? I miss you.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:27 pmAll the people want is an apology from the left for undermining the efforts of the United States. We are a forgiving people.
Don’t confuse kindness with weakness, however.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — November 9, 2007 @ 1:04 pm
Well unfortunately for you, all 68% of Americans want is OUT OF IRAQ! They might forgive you if you leave, if they don’t, count on being the permanent and TINY minority for DECADES. Which of course, I’m fine with!
As for ‘undermining efforts’, you mean like letting mercenaries kill citizens? Sorry, but the GOP undermined itself, due to it’s stupidity. But your lack of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for YOUR MISTAKES is typical GOP victimhood. BORING!!!
November 9th, 2007 at 1:28 pm#68 - Nice post.
Remember that feeling that you had after Bush won in 2004? The despair and dissapointment in my fellow Americans made me tune out for at least 6 months. After the ‘06 elections, I was momentarily elated with the prospect of getting back to the America I once knew and loved. Well, that feeling of dispair is coming back with these spineless Democrats. Nothing has changed, we are STILL headed in the wrong direction - full speed ahead.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:52 pmSr. has been shit on by his troll son since he was birthed. and daddy is just too stupid or inept to deal with his troll, so he gives him praise for killing three quarters of a million human-beings while laying blame on the people of peace.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:15 pmHere’s my caption:
November 9th, 2007 at 2:19 pm“Don’t do it Poppy! O.K., if you really have to do it, please go back in time…lets say 61 years and do it then”.
#68, Thank-you.
I just want to be proud of my country again. I want to be engaged but you’re right, it’s so difficult when you see the Democrats lay down so easily. It’s so maddening and at the same time just makes me throw my hands in the air. Who the hell are they working for? To me it’s all about election year politics, they’re so afraid of being seen as soft on terror that they’ll let pass Mukasey who not only can’t tell us if waterboarding is torture but tells us if there’s a law against it he’ll enforce it….Well, dumba_s! There’s already a law against it, it’s called INTERNATIONAL LAW! It’s called moral law! WTF is going on here?! Sorry, just had to vent.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:21 pmPoppy Bush is in denial about his first-born.
Don’t expect Poppy to admit that he and Barb raised the Georgie Boy very poorly, catering to him to such an extent that the little moron — who failed at everything he ever tried — is completely delusional about himself and the world around him.
41 and Barb raised a sociopath. Now we have to deal with the result of their miserable parental skills.
Poppy Bush can thunder all he wants. It won’t change one iota to the fact that he raised, nurtured, aided, and abetted, someone who is clearly mentally unstable, of low intelligence and intellectual curiosity, and who is totally unfit to deal with the realities of today’s world unless he can be the dictator of that world.
Poppy Bush’s first born is at best a moron, in the sense that his I.Q. is below 100. At worst, he is a nasty little tinpot dictator. I tend to believe the latter. Fortunately, tinpot dictators tend to be thrown out of office at some point or another. So, there is hope.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:22 pmThere’s something mentally wrong with the entire Bush clan. The lot of them need to be rounded up and imprisoned for life so they can’t do any more damage to the United States (and our planet) than they’ve already done. The time has come for a clean sweep of these cretins to get them off the street forever.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:27 pmTender: “There’s something mentally wrong with the entire Bush clan.”
It’s similar to the problem with European royalty. The Bush clan represents American aristocracy. Bush was the 17th legacy from his family to attend Yale. The string of legacies began in the 1840’s. This family has been exploiting people, natural resources and our political system for more than 160 years. They’re so far out of touch that they might as well be extraterrestrials.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:50 pm#76-RCJR: The Bush crime spree is over. It’s taken a while, but dear Georgie W. f—ed it up for them. Avarice catches up with the purveyors of same at some point. This is the Bush-clan’s Waterloo. And it’s about time.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:57 pm#77 - I wish you were right. You’re more optimistic than I. We have been enabling them for years.
November 9th, 2007 at 3:05 pmDaddy Bush will be doing alot more crying and lying for his idiot baby son George. The plan Daddy Bush had in 1996 has back fired because the Middle East Leaders were smarter and played the old man for the fool he is. Yes Americans watched the GOP try to bring down Bill Clinton and put their plan in action. Americans fell for all of it hook line and sinker. But the Middle East Leaders had already done their homework and knew baby George was a true idiot. Yes Cheney is a criminal and would steal the gold tooth out of a family members mouth. So they studied the GOP idiots carefully and laid out their own plan to destroy the US. As we see today our US economy is in 9 trillion dollar debt, our soldiers are left out with no safe equipment, health care or jobs. We see our brave soldiers as homeless but we do nothing about it.
November 9th, 2007 at 3:22 pmSup prime is just one of the many crimes the GOP have committed over the past 7 years. Daddy Bush now has to save his baby son not only from indictment in the US but also an International indictment of War Crimes. When Cheney is charged he will use his health condition as an excuse. Even those GOP Law Makers who are resigning and not running for re-election got their stolen money and put it in off shore accounts.
#79: Think Napoleon. Think Cesar. They thought they could rape their countries and people ad infinitum. The same surprise they got awaits the Bush clan. It’s over for them, and they know it. Hence all the ballyhooing of late. The good news is the “we” that enable them has shrunk to the minority. Majority rules, and the majority is finally getting it right in this country. Even the numbskulls are coming around.
November 9th, 2007 at 3:39 pmStrange pic to post on Senior, because he looks like he is considering loading the gun with ammunition to commit suicide.
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Why does the old man still gives interviews ?? Come on !! It is so hard to just retire to one of his ranchs ??
November 9th, 2007 at 5:10 pmTender chicken: “This is the Bush-clan’s Waterloo. And it’s about time.”
W has not only ruined a family political dynasty, but an entire political movement. He’s failed at everything he has ever done except for getting elected to public office. He couldn’t even get into prep school without a legacy. He couldn’t even get into U of Texas Law School despite a Senator for a Grand Dad and a Congressman for a father. He ran several businesses into the ground despite incredible funding. He distinguished himself as a baseball owner by making one of the worst player trades in the last 20 years. He couldn’t even hold on to a plum position on the Carlile Group’s corporate board. Reagan couldn’t stand him. He’s broken everything he’s ever touched.
November 9th, 2007 at 5:28 pmCaption contest:
Lessee . . where’s the booolett ? and which one of these leeeevers is the trigger ?
November 9th, 2007 at 5:31 pmPapa Bush, you should be crying for the American people and the Iraqis because we are suffering at the hands of your idiot and incompetent son! And yes!!!! We were better off with Saddam!!!!!
November 9th, 2007 at 5:37 pmTiffany, I think he’s crying for Jeb. Jeb was the achiever and W has ruined his political future.
November 9th, 2007 at 5:59 pm#84-RCJR: And we’ve only seen the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the damage Bush has done to the country. I don’t believe there’s Secret Service enough to protect the Bush clan when it all comes out. They’d be smart to run to South America and go into hiding like the Nazi-cowards did after World War II.
November 9th, 2007 at 6:07 pmHe looks like Hitler.
November 9th, 2007 at 6:09 pm>Saddam has another 10 years of violating U.N. decrees and ignoring >world opinion under his belt.
So did Israel. So what? Lets face it, all that changed it saddam decided to invade one tiny country we didnt tell him to. Thats it. The only WMD he had was the stuff we gave him to use on other people. THe irony of that escapes bufoons like you. The fact dick cheney very accuratelly predicted what would happen if you invaded iraq over 10 years ago, then seemed to forget everything he said also escapes you to. Let me guess, 9-11 changed everything, including the laws of physics and human psychology?
Operation Bribe Everyone in Iraq Not To Shoot At Us: bigfoot’s definition of victory
http://news.yahoo.com/ s/ csm/ 20071108/ wl_csm/ osheikh_1
November 9th, 2007 at 6:09 pm#87-RCJR: And I say thank god that any future Jeb may have had politically has been ruined by his brother. We have one thing then to thank Georgie W. for.
November 9th, 2007 at 6:15 pmTender: “They’d be smart to run to South America and go into hiding like the Nazi-cowards did after World War II.”
Well, he did recently purchase a 100,000 acre ranch in northwest Paraguay and the government of Paraguay did recently enact a law saying people within its borders were not subject to rulings by the World Court - just a coincidence I’m sure, but that ranch may represent Bush’s worst-case end-game.
November 9th, 2007 at 7:03 pm#92-RCJR: That doesn’t sound coincidental. That sounds like it’s by design. Amazing. Someone in Paraguay got bought. Better them than us.
November 9th, 2007 at 7:21 pmY’all know old 41 is getting an aircraft carrier named after him right? I had been racking my brain trying to figure out how the hell he deserved it. Then I remembered whose administration was doing the naming. Oh yeah!!! Had to put myself in the “DUH!” column for the duration.
This is what inbreeding brings us, folks. When your “leadership” derives in its entirety from less than one percent of the gene pool (the richest but probably the most worthless one percent in terms of anything but bucks), GW is a perfect example of what you’re gonna get in place of leaders.
November 9th, 2007 at 7:26 pmdementia has set in the old man’s brain…. i guess living with Babs doesn’t/didn’t help.
November 9th, 2007 at 7:26 pm#61 Comment by O. Bigfoot — November 9, 2007 @ 1:04 pm
All the people want is an apology from the left for undermining the efforts of the United States. We are a forgiving people.
What fantasy world are you living in? You, of the 24%ers. This post of yours is so far outside the bounds of reality it boggles the mind! An apology??? You are as insane as your megalomaniac leader, “W”.
Don’t confuse kindness with weakness, however.
What ever are you babbling about? Kindness??? First you have to be sane to know what kindness means. Weakness??? You aren’t weak! You are crazy. Go back to LG Footfungus and cavort with your kind.
November 9th, 2007 at 7:56 pm41 has, it seems, a wonderful reputation here amongst the powerful and the media. The all knowing father. Hero of WWII. President who “did it right” in Iraq, and who was threatened with death (and who we “rightly” must avenge). Yet the dirty side of his ledger is huge. CIA chief to pardoner of the Iran Contra criminals and a lot in between.
Should we believe, or even pay attention to, anything this terrible man says? And what would we expect his children to be? After all, he set their (personal) example and groomed them after his image. All with the help of that paragon of “goodness,” his wife. (And as it is generally understood, mother sets the childs course in life, while father shows him how to do it.)
From “Bush on the Couch” by psychiatrist Justin Frank:
“Referred to by her children as “The Enforcer,” Barbara Bush has by her own admission always been the family disciplinarian. She was, from most accounts, a cold taskmaster, and she spanked the children readily. Called “the one who instills fear” by a close family friend, she would boldly break up fights between her sons, “bust them up and slap them around,” according to a brother-in-law.”
“the one who instills fear”! And “W” learned his lesson well. Instilling fear and punishing any one who doesn’t agree with his “god driven mission” in life. Yup, par for the course.
Keep flappin’ your gums, 41, you useless failure of a father. It won’t help.
November 9th, 2007 at 8:38 pmCaption contest;
Maybe I should just “check out!” Guns are so messy, though…
November 9th, 2007 at 8:42 pmAnybody know how long this man’s been dead?
And why hasn’t anybody told him yet?
November 9th, 2007 at 9:36 pmSaddam was a monster, but his most monstrous deeds occurred in the late 80s. If we really think it’s our job to rid the world of monsters, why wait 15 years?
It’s endemic… failure to take responsibility, blame the other guy.
November 10th, 2007 at 8:06 amWe Americans stood there and watch GWB destroy the principles on which America stands. I have seen the enemy and he is us.
““Do they want to bring back Saddam Hussein, these critics?â€
That kind of asinine statement destroys any possibility for rational discussion of public policy. This is the type of statement that Republicans have thrived upon for the last 3 decades and part of the reason why stupid, catastrphic public policy is the norm rather than the exception.
November 10th, 2007 at 8:55 am“This is what inbreeding brings us, folks. When your “leadership†derives in its entirety from less than one percent of the gene pool ”
From comment 94 by Iain
I believe that Iain is seriously right. The very rich and old money rich breed only within their class. This small group is too limited to produce anything but rubbish. Weaknesses are magnified and strengths distorted.
Think of the gene pool that produced Richard Mellon-Scaife, the drunken half-wit who actually thought that Goldwater would win in ‘64 in a landslide.
November 10th, 2007 at 9:12 am