O’Reilly’s Contrived ‘War On Christmas’ Is Back
On his Fox News show last night, Bill O’Reilly kicked off his annual conniption fit over a perceived “War on Christmas.” O’Reilly’s target last night was a decision by the Fort Collins, Colorado City Council to celebrate the holiday season with “an educational museum display, plain wreaths and garlands on city property, and trees with white lights” rather than traditional Christmas decorations such as trees with “colored lights.”
In the segment, O’Reilly called the decision by the city’s Holiday Display Task Force — which he incorrectly called the holiday diversity task force — “insane” and “an assault to diminish Christmas for secular progressive reasons.”
His right-wing guest, Denver talk radio host Dan Caplis, went even further, calling it “something out of the old Soviet Union”:
DAN CAPLIS: Yes. Well, Bill, this is horrible. I mean, this should be a wake-up call to every member of your audience. If this kind of attack on American values can happen in Fort Collins, it can happen everywhere.
You have this arrogant minority that wants to go to the point of stripping away Christmas trees and colored lights. I mean, this sounds like something out of the old Soviet Union. And people need to be very aware.
This group on the left is mobilized. They’re sophisticated. They’re determined. And if you don’t stand up and fight for your culture, they will take it away from you.
O’Reilly concurred, saying “Caplis is right.” Watch it:
The goal of Fort Collins’ proposals is to make sure that government-funded displays are as inclusive as possible. Employees at their desks and private citizens in general can “erect whatever display or symbols they so choose.”
As the Coloradoan’s Robert Moore notes today, O’Reilly “got some basic facts…wrong” about the committee he was complaining about, like “its name and number of members.”
More importantly, O’Reilly is behind in his outrage. Last year, he launched his “First Salvo in 2006 War Over Christmas” nearly two weeks earlier on October 27, complaining to former Sen. John Danforth (R-MO) about “lawsuits all over the country by the ACLU, objecting to Christmas carols, Christmas displays.” [Fox News 10/27/06]
If 2007 is anything like previous years, “secular progressives” have plenty of vitriol from O’Reilly to look forward to:
- Describing the “War on Christmas,” O’Reilly claimed “Every company in America should be on its knees thanking Jesus for being born. Without Christmas, most American businesses would be far less profitable.” [11/29/05]
- O’Reilly compared Catholic leaders’ silence over “war” on Christmas to Church’s reaction to pedophilia scandal. [12/14/05]
- “[Y]ou’re a moron … [i]f you don’t believe” the “secular progressive movement” is behind “war” on Christmas, claimed O’Reilly on his radio show. [12/19/05]
- O’Reilly lauded Wal-Mart’s decision to use the phrase “Merry Christmas” as a victory in the “culture war battle” for those who “want to retain the Christmas tradition.”[11/13/06]
Watch out “secular progressives,” the “war on Christmas” is back and O’Reilly’s got his eye on you.
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hypocrisy part of the american culture?
November 9th, 2007 at 1:24 pmOH SHUT THE FU*K UP O’RIELLY.
TALK ABOUT FU*KING WHINING!
November 9th, 2007 at 1:25 pmI think our company’s greeter will use this phrase this year —
Merry Christmas! Convert to Christianity or die!
November 9th, 2007 at 1:26 pmHonestly, why does TP even give this guy space on this blog? We all know what a horse’s ass he is. Waste of space.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:26 pmchristmas doesn’t officially start until billy puts up his office loofah tree. all the pretty female production assistants are expected to enthusiastically help in the decoration ceremony even though it’s not included in their job descriptions.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:26 pmDuh! The X-mas troops are all over the place TWO WEEKS EARLY.
I was just out getting lunch and someone two feet away from me said, “Thank Goodness.” What a bunch of secular propaganda. If that guy isn’t trying to kill Jesus’s birthday, then I’m a manipulated simpleton.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:27 pmBill O’Reilly is SO wrong.
It’s not a “War” on Christmas. It’s at best an extended police action in the North Pole that has unleashed decades-long tensions between different elf tribes. Yes, the inter-elf conflict is tragic, but an inevitable consequence of removing the Santa Claus junta. These are just the “birth pangs” of a new Arctic.
And yes, it’s an expensive occupation, but with luck, there’s still a chance for all the toy revenue to pay for the occupation.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:29 pmI wonder if O’reilly knows most of the ‘Christmas look’ he is whining about came from Pagan celebrations. You know? They don’t have fir or spuce pine trees in the deserts of Jerusalem. How come we decorate pine trees instead of desert shrubs? And Santa Claus? He came from European and Scandinavian festivities. So what eactly is Mr. Loofa crying about?
November 9th, 2007 at 1:31 pmYou have this arrogant minority that wants to go to the point of stripping away Christmas trees and colored lights.
Indeed, how on earth could we celebrate Christmas without the pagan symbolism.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:33 pmRatings StratRat, he’s crying about/for ratings.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:33 pmCan someone point to the book and verse in the bible that talks about lighted trees and wreaths please? I’m confused here how these objects tell the story of Jesus’s virgin birth. Does the lighted tree symbolize heaven? with the tree being god and the indvidual lights being angels? If that’s what it is, then it would make sense that wreaths symbolize the virgin mary’s IUD, a god given barrier to the coporal sperm of joeseph. If there’s another explanation, I’m all ears.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:35 pmWatch out for OSanta Bin Klaus.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:36 pmJeez…we haven’t even had the first skirmish in the War on Thanksgiving yet and they’re jumping right in to the War on Christmas.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:37 pmOf course there is a War on Christmas. There’s a lot of people that hate Christmas and Christians out there. But that’s okay. Christians need not be influenced by such diatribes. Strong belief in one’s self counteracts the most vicious hatred. As long as we ensure the vileful elements of society stay downtrodden or in prison we should be okay. Combine that with making sure that rogue nations don’t get to threaten our national security, and we should be golden!
November 9th, 2007 at 1:37 pmOnly 45 sniping days left until X-mas!
November 9th, 2007 at 1:38 pmconsidering that a signfiicant chunk of falafelman’s audience wont’ be having a very merry xmas this year, i’d think his yammering on and on and on about it will only annoy them.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:38 pmDeck the halls with balls of O’Rielly, fa la la la la, la la la la
November 9th, 2007 at 1:39 pmTis the season of Christmas folly, fa la la la la, la la la la
I agree with Dumb_Fox above — Why would secular people work to remove pagan trees and lights from the Christmas celebration?
Secularists don’t need to declare war on Christmas, the “Christians” have obsrured and corrupted its meaning all by themselves….
November 9th, 2007 at 1:41 pmOh no! I have white lights that I put on my Christmas tree. I didn’t know that colored lights are Christian and white lights are secular! Ohhhhhhhhhh noooooooooooooooooo…..
November 9th, 2007 at 1:42 pmFalafel guy a little early for his attack on Christmas. LOL! I think he is just a tad jealous for attention since Limbaugh and Beck are in the race for the gold on Olbermann’s show. Bill-O is certainly entertaining all of us while TV show writers are on strike.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:42 pmRatings StratRat, he’s crying about/for ratings.
Comment by hellinabucket
I forgot about O’Reilly’s demographic…
November 9th, 2007 at 1:43 pmOh come all ye hateful
November 9th, 2007 at 1:46 pmFearful and the ignorant
Oh come ye Oh come ye to help push a lie…….
“There’s a lot of people that hate Christmas and Christians out there.”
Name one, one that has a national or even regional stage, and be sure to provide examples of that hatred.
Re 14
“As long as we ensure the vileful elements of society stay downtrodden or in prison we should be okay”
Are you refering to poor people in general, or just the mexicans and negroes? And how are the downtrodden and imprisoned “elements” attacking Christmas?
“Combine that with making sure that rogue nations don’t get to threaten our national security, and we should be golden!”
Do you really think that Fort Collins is a “rogue nation”? You really are home-schooled. And why do you want orielly to give you a golden shower?
November 9th, 2007 at 1:49 pmOf course there is a War on Christmas. There’s a lot of people that hate Christmas and Christians out there. But that’s okay. Christians need not be influenced by such diatribes.
Comment by hits — November 9, 2007 @ 1:37 pm
But they have been. The evangelicals and others have convinced themselves and their base that they’re the enslaved minority fighting against the secular progressive pharoah. They made up the bullshit War on Christmas to tie in with the bullshit War on Terror.
You can’t rally the base by shouting “we have a comfortably overwhelming demographic majority” at them. You have to make them think they’re oppressed. You have to make them think there’s a scary enemy out there who hates Christians, whether it’s islamofascism or secular progressives.
I’d like to know how many of these “Christians” celebrate Christmas by doing something Christian, like volunteering at a soup kitchen or donating toys for homeless children.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:49 pm#4 +1. So much other items of seriousness to discuss and organize for.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:50 pmDamn! I wanted to get my War on Christmas shopping done early this year. As usual, it snuck right up on me.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:51 pmPutting white lights on a “holiday” tree = attack on American values
Torturing = hunky dory
Yeah, bet Jesus would be down with that, as well.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:51 pmI’d like to know how many of these “Christians†celebrate Christmas by doing something Christian, like volunteering at a soup kitchen or donating toys for homeless children.
Comment by toasterhead
Or think that killing is wrong.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:52 pm“CONTRIVED”??????
Can’t any of you remember as far as back as LAST XMAS???????? If you can you’ll know what Bill’s talking about!
November 9th, 2007 at 1:52 pmI think I would enjoy a visit to the Fort Collins Museum in December, if I lived anywhere near there. It would be delightful to see exhibits showing how Christmas is celebrated (hopefully from a number of different places in the world), as well as Chanukkah (starting sundown December 3), Eid al-Adha (on or around December 20), and Kwanzaa (starting December 26). Maybe they would even have displays for the way non-Abrahamic religions observe the winter solstice.
How in the world does this translate into a “war on Christmas”? Is O’Reilly unhappy that other holidays get recognized, too? Or does he just feel the need to create outrage for ratings?
November 9th, 2007 at 1:53 pmOh no! I have white lights that I put on my Christmas tree. I didn’t know that colored lights are Christian and white lights are secular! Ohhhhhhhhhh noooooooooooooooooo…..
Comment by missmolly — November 9, 2007 @ 1:42 pm
SINNER!
November 9th, 2007 at 1:53 pmyou will burn in hell for that!
“…trees with white lights†rather than traditional Christmas decorations such as trees with “colored lights.â€
sounds racist to me
November 9th, 2007 at 1:54 pmI”’d like to know how many of these “Christians†celebrate Christmas by doing something Christian, like volunteering at a soup kitchen or donating toys for homeless children.
Comment by toasterhead
Or think that killing is wrong.
Comment by Juan C”
A few years ago, when Christmas actually fell on Sunday, one of thse big mega Fundi churches where I live gave the members a DVD of a service so they didn’t have to come in to church. Really.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:55 pmNo one in my neighborhood uses colored Christmas lights anymore. There’s been nothing but clear lights for at least 5 or 6 years. I bet all my very conservative GOP and holier than thou Christian neighbors will be horrified to learn they are part of a “war on Christmas”. Who knew?
November 9th, 2007 at 1:56 pmJebus H. Keerist, Billy - shut the everlovin’ *BLEEP* up, ya moron.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:56 pmI’ll call your “war on Christmas” and raise you a “war on Terra”. My hole card is a mushroom cloud and I have clubs showing.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:57 pmA few years ago, when Christmas actually fell on Sunday, one of thse big mega Fundi churches where I live gave the members a DVD of a service so they didn’t have to come in to church. Really.
Comment by Bobwurst — November 9, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
Did it come complete with a Powerpoint presentation of song lyrics and subtitles telling people when to stand and sit?
November 9th, 2007 at 1:58 pmWar on Christmas = WMD in Iraq
Straw men to divert attention from the real issues of the day.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:00 pmWhile I wouldn’t call it a war on Christmas, there is a minority in our society who want us to embrace diversity instead of Christmas which is sad since America’s culture is largely based on Christianity. Christmas should be celebrated on all levels. It hardly requires a diversity task force to make sure we include every minority.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:01 pmR.K.Milholland’s Something Positive:
There is no God. My desk is full of ponies.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:03 pm“embrace diversity instead of Christmas ”
Comment by Roger_Roger — November 9, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
You seem to suggest embracing diversity is somehow worse than embracing christmas.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:03 pmDid it come complete with a Powerpoint presentation of song lyrics and subtitles telling people when to stand and sit?
Actually, it came with a strong electroshock buzzer you sit on. When the buzzer zaps you, stand up!
November 9th, 2007 at 2:04 pmStupid_Stupid, you really ought to shut up.
Your bigotry is showing, there, sparky.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:04 pmChristmas should be celebrated on all levels. It hardly requires a diversity task force to make sure we include every minority.
Comment by Roger_Roger — November 9, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
That’s true - we never see how Muslims or Jews or Hindus or Buddhists or Animists celebrate Christmas - why are they left out???
November 9th, 2007 at 2:05 pmWhile I wouldn’t call it a war on Christmas, there is a minority in our society who want us to embrace diversity instead of Christmas
Comment by Roger_Roger — November 9, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
Any evidence of this? How big a “minority”? Do you think there really IS a “movement” that’s worth paying attention to?
And since when are “diversity” and “Christmas” mutually exclusive?
Sheesh.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:05 pmI would think that the commercialism of Christmas has bastardized the holiday more than anything else. More children associate it with Santa than they do Jesus. Do you think O’Reilly will take issue with that? He’s such an idiot.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:05 pmOOOOOHHHHH NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Not …….DIVERSITY!!!!!!!!!!
November 9th, 2007 at 2:06 pmBill Oreilly is such a dolt. There are just as many if not more christians in the democratic party than the amoral, corrupt, stalled homophobes on the right…
November 9th, 2007 at 2:06 pmLet me be the first to say, I hate Christmas! Even when I was a devout Christian (which I was - Lutheran to be exact), I recognized that the religion of capitalism is really what this holiday is about! Bill-O just makes my point more relevent. Quit shoving it down my throat and trying to make me ashamed of my own beliefs!
November 9th, 2007 at 2:07 pmAnd since when are “diversity†and “Christmas†mutually exclusive?
Sheesh.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — November 9, 2007 @ 2:05 pm
In the brains of closed-minded bigots, they are and always have been.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:07 pmI wish I had the time to worry about this imaginary “war on Christmas”. I am busy worrying about those who are fighting in REAL COMBAT AND WILL MISS this year’s “War” here in the states.
O’Reilly is just a stupid gas bag, what bothers me is that so many more people will have an opinion and care about what this schmuck talks about rather than the destruction of the USA and the blood being spilled daily in Iraq.
I am getting tired and worn out. How many people go through the day without even thinking about those who we sent to be maimed and killed? I think about Iraq most of the day EVERY DAY. I wish I had the luxury of caring about such stupidity.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:08 pmDoes anyone really care about this puffed up excuse for a reactionary commentator? Mr. Bill has marginalized himself with his ridiculous diatribes and pathetic drooling harassment of women in his workplace. As if he really gives a damn about the Christ in Christmas. Bah, humbug!
November 9th, 2007 at 2:09 pmOH MAN, I’m askeered of DIVERSITY!!!!!!!!
Ralph — HOLD ME!!!!
November 9th, 2007 at 2:09 pmMan, I’m having to do my “War on Christmas” shopping earlier and earlier each year….
November 9th, 2007 at 2:09 pmBillo needs to get a life and a real job, instead of resident asshat at Fux news.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:10 pmZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…
November 9th, 2007 at 2:13 pmI wish I had the time to worry about this imaginary “war on Christmasâ€. I am busy worrying about those who are fighting in REAL COMBAT AND WILL MISS this year’s “War†here in the states.
Comment by DanCaveman — November 9, 2007 @ 2:08 pm
The two are very related, though. The same fearmongering war hawks who whipped up the base to support the war in Iraq use the same techniques to keep them whipped up for the War on Christmas. And they’re going to use the same techniques for the wars on Iran and Syria.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:13 pmDid it come complete with a Powerpoint presentation of song lyrics and subtitles telling people when to stand and sit?
Comment by toasterhead
And a full body kneeling doll of a victim of possession, so you can strip Satan out of him.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:13 pm#39 - Roger: NO, our country was founded on diversity! Have you read the Federalist papers???? It wasn’t until the 50s and McCarthyism did we get Christianity infused in our government sponsered culture. This was the time when “In God We Trust” was put on our money and when the pledge was rewritten to include “under god”.
I hate when people use this false argument!
November 9th, 2007 at 2:14 pmWhile I wouldn’t call it a war on Christmas, there is a minority in our society who want us to embrace diversity instead of Christmas which is sad since America’s culture is largely based on Christianity. Christmas should be celebrated on all levels. It hardly requires a diversity task force to make sure we include every minority.
Comment by Roger_Roger — November 9, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
But Christmas was BANNED by our founding fathers. Why do you HATE AMERICA and our VALUES so much Roger?
November 9th, 2007 at 2:16 pm“If this kind of attack on American values can happen in Fort Collins, it can happen everywhere.”
Huh. Who knew that Christmas decorations were American values?
November 9th, 2007 at 2:16 pmAnd a full body kneeling doll of a victim of possession, so you can strip Satan out of him.
Comment by Juan C. — November 9, 2007 @ 2:13 pm
You probably have to provide your own rattlesnakes, though. UPS won’t ship them.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:17 pm“If this kind of attack on American values can happen in Fort Collins, it can happen everywhere.â€
Huh. Who knew that Christmas decorations were American values?
Comment by AMcG773 — November 9, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
Actually, celebrating CHRISTMAS is an attack on American Values. First it was BANNED by the founding fathers. Second, it’s a PAGAN holiday, not a CHRISTIAN one!
November 9th, 2007 at 2:18 pmBut Christmas was BANNED by our founding fathers. Why do you HATE AMERICA and our VALUES so much Roger?
Comment by republicans hate facts — November 9, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
I just learned that George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and all the other secular progressives who wrote this country’s founding documents didn’t put up ANY Christmas lights AT ALL! None! No white lights, no colored lights (well, 3/5ths of them), NOTHING!
Do you know what this means? It means that the secular progressives have invented TIME TRAVEL!!!
November 9th, 2007 at 2:20 pmOreilly, you idiot. READ THIS:
and for the record I am a christian Bile O’lielly!
November 9th, 2007 at 2:22 pmDo you know what this means? It means that the secular progressives have invented TIME TRAVEL!!!
Comment by toasterhead
That was funny.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:22 pmO’Reilly claimed “Every company in America should be on its knees thanking Jesus for being born. Without Christmas, most American businesses would be far less profitable.â€
Ahhh, yes! The TRUE meaning of christmas!
November 9th, 2007 at 2:22 pmProfits!
And if I dont put up X [Chi or Life] MAS lights its because the cost of electricity!!!
November 9th, 2007 at 2:23 pmWhile I wouldn’t call it a war on Christmas, there is a minority in our society who want us to embrace diversity instead of Christmas which is sad since America’s culture is largely based on Christianity. Christmas should be celebrated on all levels. It hardly requires a diversity task force to make sure we include every minority.
Comment by Roger_Roger — November 9, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
Our culture is “largely based on Christianity”? Which part of “our culture” would that be, Roger2? Cheesesteaks? Hot rods? Britney Spears?
Everyone I know who is busy not embracing Christmas is, well, not Christian. Morons like Bill O confuse “Christmas” with all the trappings like trees and lights and Christmas cards and, almost forgot: shopping! It’s hardly a religious holiday (holy day) for most Americans, even if they make their annual church visit just to pretend they’re Christian.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:23 pmThere are just as many if not more christians in the democratic party than the amoral, corrupt, stalled homophobes on the right…
Comment by Xisithrus — November 9, 2007 @ 2:06 pm
I think you’re taking the term “Christian” too literally. You seem to be using the term “Christian” to refer to those who actually follow the teachings of Christ and put them into practice. In today’s politicial climate, “Christian” basiclly means one who proclaims loudly that one is a Christian.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:24 pmRepublicans need their divisive issues to further their causes, whether it’s the war on Xmas or the war against immigrants. Stirring the pot of hate seems to be like a snort of cocaine to the sociopathic right-wing.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:25 pmI’m here, Annie, I’m here… we won’t let those evil Diversitives get ya…
November 9th, 2007 at 2:26 pmIn today’s politicial climate, “Christian†basiclly means one who proclaims loudly that one is a Christian.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — November 9, 2007 @ 2:24 pm
Didn’t Jesus say that was a no-no? I vaguely remember something about not boasting in the temple and all that.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:27 pm- Describing the “War on Christmas,†O’Reilly claimed “Every company in America should be on its knees thanking Jesus for being born. Without Christmas, most American businesses would be far less profitable.†[11/29/05]
Yes, I’m sure that crass commercialism was the VERY REASON behind the birth of Jesus Christ! I’m sure He was in favor of buying family and friends a lot of crap they didn’t need, egged on by endless advertising!
/sarc off
November 9th, 2007 at 2:28 pmWhy is Bile Oleilly attacking the Jewish people?
November 9th, 2007 at 2:29 pmThey dont put up Xmas trees. Bill is an anti-semite!
“They don’t have fir or spuce pine trees in the deserts of Jerusalem.”
I bet they didn’t have electricity for all those colored tree lights, either!
November 9th, 2007 at 2:30 pmO’Reilly claimed “Every company in America should be on its knees thanking Jesus for being born. Without Christmas, most American businesses would be far less profitable.â€
OMG. That is just wrong on so many levels…. :o/
November 9th, 2007 at 2:31 pmGotta love that left leaning history channel:
“The family was also becoming less disciplined and more sensitive to the emotional needs of children during the early 1800s. Christmas provided families with a day when they could lavish attention-and gifts-on their children without appearing to “spoil” them.
As Americans began to embrace Christmas as a perfect family holiday, old customs were unearthed. People looked toward recent immigrants and Catholic and Episcopalian churches to see how the day should be celebrated. In the next 100 years, Americans built a Christmas tradition all their own that included pieces of many other customs, including decorating trees, sending holiday cards, and gift-giving.
Although most families quickly bought into the idea that they were celebrating Christmas how it had been done for centuries, Americans had really re-invented a holiday to fill the cultural needs of a growing nation.”
November 9th, 2007 at 2:31 pm72 - Oh, thankyouthankyouthankyou, Ralph!!!!
I feel ever so much better now. ;o)
November 9th, 2007 at 2:32 pmDidn’t Jesus say that was a no-no? I vaguely remember something about not boasting in the temple and all that.
Comment by toasterhead — November 9, 2007 @ 2:27 pm
Not to mention, Jesus never met a Christian.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:32 pmI think you’re taking the term “Christian†too literally.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama
Eh? I certainly dont think politicians are christian nor do I think Bile here is either, hes more of a Mammonnite, and was really speaking of the unelected salus populi.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:32 pmIn today’s politicial climate, “Christian†basiclly means one who proclaims loudly that one is a Christian.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — November 9, 2007 @ 2:24 pm
Which is a shame, since that causes many of us Christians to be afraid to admit it.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:32 pmWhile there is no war on Christianity, the Christians definitely have a war on SCIENCE and MEDICINE! The lunatic Christian Soldiers this week called for the murder and terrorizing of Doctors! What a bunch of freaks!
http://news.yahoo.com/ s/ ap/ 20071109/ ap_on_re_us/ abortion_threats_1
November 9th, 2007 at 2:33 pmWhy is Bile Oleilly attacking the Jewish people?
They dont put up Xmas trees. Bill is an anti-semite!
Comment by Xisithrus — November 9, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
They’re unperfected. Try to keep up!
November 9th, 2007 at 2:33 pmI found this on KOS and liked it bunches:
You can have your “Under God” back when I get my “Liberty and Justice For All” back.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:33 pmKE - The Blog
OMG. That is just wrong on so many levels…. :o/
Comment by Leftside Annie — November 9, 2007
Thats why I consider him a Mammonist.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:34 pmjpoke42: “NO, our country was founded on diversity!”
Jpoke, here’s the Father of our Country agreeing with you:
“If they are good workmen, they may be of Asia, Africa, or Europe. They may be Mohometans, Jews or Christians of any Sect, or they may be Atheists.”
November 9th, 2007 at 2:35 pm– George Washington, letter to Tench Tilghman asking him to secure a carpenter and a bricklayer for his Mount Vernon estate, March 24, 1784.
The lunatic Christian Soldiers this week called for the murder and terrorizing of Doctors! What a bunch of freaks!
Comment by republicans hate facts — November 9, 2007 @ 2:33 pm
Hope there’s room for them at Gitmo!
November 9th, 2007 at 2:35 pmThey’re unperfected. Try to keep up!
Comment by gummitch — November 9, 2007
Oh, your right, my bad, I forgot heaven was a drunken, prostitute filled republican convention!
November 9th, 2007 at 2:36 pmI was raised in a very strict Chistian environment and I don’t remember ever being asked to get on my knees and pray to Santa Claus.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:36 pmIt becomes clearer, with each passing day (hour? minute? second?), that there is nothing Christian about the, self proclaimed, Christians in BillO’s camp. I can’t come up with a one-word description but “Evil” springs to mind.
BTW, how funny would it be if it turns out that they switched to white lights because, like my community, they want to save the cost of colored lights? Of course, in BillO’s world, only “Leftists” want to actually reduce government spending.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:37 pmThere is no “War on Christmas”, it is all BS made up by the ReichWingers to divid the country even more. Everyone likes Christmas, presents, lights, cards, holiday dinners, kids with red noses and snow. Bill 0 IQ is a blowhard, period. He just hates respecting other religious traditions that he doesn’t understand, typical repukian bigot.
Buck Fush
November 9th, 2007 at 2:37 pmBill’s guest: “Sure, Bill, I’ll discuss this “war on christmas,” but first I’d like to know if you know the difference between a falafel and a loofah.”
O’Reilly: “Cut her mike! Cut her mike!”
November 9th, 2007 at 2:42 pm#45 Christmas is a Christian Holiday, period. It is not a Holiday for the world religions. While the other religions are free to convert to christianity and celebrate, they certainly don’t have to. My only point is the government should never force a company or any part of America not to celebrate Christmas by decorating. If the government is against christmas lights, christmas trees, and cross’, then the government is horrribly wrong. We should be able to show our christian symbols anytime and anywhere.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:50 pmroger roger, where do you get the government is against anything?
November 9th, 2007 at 2:56 pmStupid_Stupid - sorry, your ignorance is showing now.
“Christmas” is a holiday cobbled together by the Church from a whole bunch of PAGAN traditions, including the Roman Saturnalia, the celebration of the Winter Solstice, and the Scandinavian celebration of Yule, etc. etc. etc.
When American was founded, celebrating Christmas here was frowned upon.
Most of the traditions we have now were instituted by German IMMIGRANTS. (Oh no!!! NOT from IMMIGRANTS!!!)
And here you are, blathering about how it’s a “Christian” holiday.
You really ought to just sit quietly in the corner and observe, Roger. Truly. And that suggestion comes from the heart.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:56 pmp.s. Jesus was a Jew. NOT a Christian.
Just sayin’.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:58 pmThey are not “forcing” anyone not to celebrate. There is no law prohibiting celebration of Christmas. The day they pass that law, I will be fighting along side you in the “War On Christmas”; however, when they continue to use MY tax dollars to celebrate ANY religion, they better make sure they make an effort to represent EVERYONE.
I don’t even know why I respond to you. You are being ridiculous. Please show me where they barred you from showing your Christian symbols “anytime and anywhere” that YOU OWNED. Just like I can’t put Festivus decorations on YOUR lawn, does not mean you are starting a “war on Festivus”.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:59 pm“Christmas is a Christian Holiday, period.”
A Christian holiday about the birth of a Jew. How diverse.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:59 pmMy only point is the government should never force a company or any part of America not to celebrate Christmas by decorating.
Comment by Roger_Roger — November 9, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
R2, can you provide evidence of this ever happening? When has the government ever forced “a company or part of America not to celebrate Christmas”?
November 9th, 2007 at 3:00 pm#45 Christmas is a Christian Holiday, period. Comment by Roger_Roger — November 9, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
Then why isn’t it in the bible?
It is not a Holiday for the world religions. Comment by Roger_Roger — November 9, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
Actually it’s a holiday of PAGAN RELIGIONS. In fact, it’s just the Feast of Saturn renamed!
While the other religions are free to convert to christianity and celebrate, they certainly don’t have to. Comment by Roger_Roger — November 9, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
You already did! You CONVERTED TO PAGAN HOLIDAYS! AH THE IRONY!
My only point is the government should never force a company or any part of America not to celebrate Christmas by decorating. Comment by Roger_Roger — November 9, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
What, only RELIGIOUS FANATICS like YOU AND O’REILLY should force them? OUR GOVERNMENT BANNED CHRISTMAS because it’s a PAGAN HOLIDAY for CENTURIES!
If the government is against christmas lights, christmas trees, and cross’, then the government is horrribly wrong. We should be able to show our christian symbols anytime and anywhere.
Comment by Roger_Roger — November 9, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
PAGAN SYMBOLS. The CHRISTMAS TREE, MISTLETOE, ETC., are not CHRISTIAN, they are PAGAN SYMBOLS - DUM BASS! Read your BIBLE, where does it ever mention a CHRISTMAS TREE? YOU ARE A PAGAN YOU STUPID, STUPID LITTLE LOSER!
November 9th, 2007 at 3:01 pmPoor Rogers doesn’t realize that MODERN CHRISTMAS are in fact creations of Dickens and Coca Cola - and NOT CHRISTIANITY!!! What a stupid little ‘tard!
Why do HATE AMERICAN VALUES and CHRISTIANITY SO MUCH ROGER? WHY ARE YOU SUCH A HATEFUL PAGAN?
November 9th, 2007 at 3:04 pmThis is one of my favorite aspects of the MYTH OF CHRISTMAS!!!
That’s right folks, the CHRISTIAN TRADITIONS that Roger and O’Reilly whine about DIDN’T EVEN EXIST WHEN THE NATION WAS FOUND!
They are PURELY FICTIONAL FABRICATIONS!!!! HOW PATHETIC IS THAT?
November 9th, 2007 at 3:06 pmHmmm. Maybe I’ll start my own war. Every time a Wal Mart cashier wishes me a Merry Christmas, I’ll reply with either Happy Solstice, Kwanzaa, Hanukkah, or Ramadan. Of course in order to do this, I’d have to actually shop at Wal Mart…
November 9th, 2007 at 3:06 pmdon’t even know why I respond to you. You are being ridiculous. Please show me where they barred you from showing your Christian symbols “anytime and anywhere†that YOU OWNED. Just like I can’t put Festivus decorations on YOUR lawn, does not mean you are starting a “war on Festivusâ€.
Comment by DanCaveman — November 9, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
Wait, wait. Roger has launched a war on Festivus? Time to air our grievances!
November 9th, 2007 at 3:07 pmBoy, no kidding! Walk into any department store today and you can see clearly that Christmas is under attack!!
Is that not what O’Reilly meant?
November 9th, 2007 at 3:07 pmYou could just put everything back and walk out of the store if any employee wishes you a “merry christmas”. Would be very interesting if you were at the checkout counter.
November 9th, 2007 at 3:09 pmWouldn’t it be great if Jesus returned on Christmas day?
Of course, the American Evangelicons would probably nail the poor, long haired, freak to another cross. They don’t hold with no “peace and luv” talk.
November 9th, 2007 at 3:12 pmI much prefer Festivus.
Especially the pole & feats of strength.
Serenity Now!
November 9th, 2007 at 3:15 pmI celebrate christmas BECAUSE it’s a pagan holiday. Blasted christians have stolen all my holidays. We should have a war on religion.
November 9th, 2007 at 3:21 pmWar on Christmas? If anything it’s inescapable!
November 9th, 2007 at 3:28 pmWhat a lunkhead.
Must be a slow news day in the eyes of BillyO. Never mind Pakistan is getting close to a revolution……and they got nukes.
We should have a war on religion.
Comment by Nature Rules — November 9, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
Now you’re talk’n!
November 9th, 2007 at 3:28 pmIs it THAT time of year again? Then it’s time to open up the “Osama’s homobortion pot and commie jizporium” (thank you Jon Stewart).
November 9th, 2007 at 3:31 pm“…I’ll reply with either Happy Solstice, Kwanzaa, Hanukkah, or Ramadan.”
Comment by progressive homeschooler — November 9, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
Great idea, but instead of Ramadan, go for Eid al-Adha instead (Ramadan was in September/October). Eid al-Adha is on December 20, and the proper greeting is “Eid Mubarak!” (EED mu-BAR-ack).
THAT will baffle them.
November 9th, 2007 at 3:34 pmO’Reilly is a certified moron, so nothing more needs to be said about him!
November 9th, 2007 at 3:39 pmY’all are crackin’ me up today - thanks for the multiple giggles!!!
November 9th, 2007 at 3:47 pmZimzone sez:
Personally, I prefer the Airing of Grievances. ^_^
I got a lot of problems with you people! And now, you’re gonna hear about it.
November 9th, 2007 at 3:47 pmWhile I wouldn’t call it a war on Christmas, there is a minority in our society who want us to embrace diversity instead of Christmas which is sad since America’s culture is largely based on Christianity. Christmas should be celebrated on all levels. It hardly requires a diversity task force to make sure we include every minority.
Comment by Roger_Roger — November 9, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought most to be deprecated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society. [George Washington, letter to Edward Newenham, October 20, 1792
There is nothing which can better deserve our patronage than the promotion of science and literature. Knowledge is in every country the surest basis of public happiness. [George Washington, address to Congress, 8 January, 1790
Religious controversies are always productive of more acrimony and irreconcilable hatreds than thsoe which spring from any other cause. [George Washington, letter to Sir Edward Newenham, June 22, 1792
Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity.
-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782
But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782
I concur with you strictly in your opinion of the comparative merits of atheism and demonism, and really see nothing but the latter in the being worshipped by many who think themselves Christians.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Richard Price, Jan. 8, 1789 (Richard Price had written to TJ on Oct. 26. about the harm done by religion and wrote “Would not Society be better without Such religions? Is Atheism less pernicious than Demonism?”)
November 9th, 2007 at 3:51 pm#45 Christmas is a Christian Holiday, period. It is not a Holiday for the world religions. While the other religions are free to convert to christianity and celebrate, they certainly don’t have to. My only point is the government should never force a company or any part of America not to celebrate Christmas by decorating. If the government is against christmas lights, christmas trees, and cross’, then the government is horrribly wrong. We should be able to show our christian symbols anytime and anywhere.
Comment by Roger_Roger — November 9, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
We should ban Christmas. it cheapens Christianity. it’s not even on Jesus’ birthday. It cheapens our country to call it a Christian nation.
November 9th, 2007 at 3:56 pmLOL, TMM, LOL!
November 9th, 2007 at 3:59 pmDid it come complete with a Powerpoint presentation of song lyrics and subtitles telling people when to stand and sit?
Comment by toasterhead
And a full body kneeling doll of a victim of possession, so you can strip Satan out of him.
Howza bouta toy guy/lady in a wheelchair who is miraculously cured, gets up and boogies to the hymns?
November 9th, 2007 at 4:01 pmI love this thought:
I believe there is an important distinction to be made between religion and spirituality. Religion I take to be concerned with belief in the claims to salvation of one faith tradition or another–an aspect of which is acceptance of some form of meta-physical or philosophical reality, including perhaps an idea of heaven or hell. Connected with this are religious teachings or dogma, ritual, prayers and so on. Spirituality I take to be concerned with those qualities of the human spirit–such as love and compassion, patience, tolerance, forgiveness, contentment, a sense of responsibility, a sense of harmony, which bring happiness to both self and others.
-His Holiness the Dalai Lama
November 9th, 2007 at 4:03 pmand the proper greeting is “Eid Mubarak!†(EED mu-BAR-ack).
THAT will baffle them.
Comment by missmolly — November 9, 2007 @ 3:34 pm
And they’ll think you are wishing a happy Egyptian President’s day!
November 9th, 2007 at 4:11 pmIs it any coincidence that this just landed in my inbox?
JONES DECRIES HUD POLICY STIFLING RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS OF CHRISTMAS
Washington, D.C. – In a letter today to Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Secretary Alphonso Jackson, Third District Representative Walter B. Jones (R-NC) expressed his concern over a HUD directive to its Community Managers and Administrators on October 29, 2007, regarding holiday decorating. The memo covers HUD policy for holiday decorations in common areas. The memo states: “Unfortunately, in today’s world, we can’t wait for someone to tell us to do things differently, we have to be pro-active.â€
“Mr. Secretary, it is unacceptable to deny residents of their constitutionally guaranteed religious liberties in order to pro-actively not offend others,†Congressman Jones wrote.
In the memorandum, several “Holiday Hints†are given to help with decorations. The second Holiday Hint states that: “Any religious symbols or religious words associated with Christmas should not be used. For example, the following items should not be on display: nativity scene (or any people represented in the nativity scene alone or together), the Star of David, angels, etc. This means no angel on your Christmas tree either.†The fourth states: “Christmas dinners, parties, and get-togethers are acceptable.… To be on the safe side you can always call them ‘Holiday’ parties.â€
“In the past few months I have seen several shocking examples of religious references banned by the federal government,†Jones continued. “These included the Architect of the Capitol banning the word ‘God’ on flag certificates, the Department of Veterans Affairs banning the 13-fold recital, and the Bureau of Prisons purging several religious books from chapel libraries. Luckily, in each of the above examples, an outcry of public opposition led to a reversal of policy.â€
“It is my hope that the Housing and Urban Development policy with regard to religious symbols will be reversed as well,†Jones concluded.
To read the HUD memorandum, visit: http://www.jones.house.gov/files/fairhousing.pdf.
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© 2006 All Rights Reserved, Walter Jones
November 9th, 2007 at 4:13 pmI am familiar with O’Reilly from his days back in Boston at WHDH-TV. He was an arrogant moron pig even then. I am stressing PIG…Things don’t change, Billy Boy!!! . God has a special place for you Billy…you and anyone who talks a good Christian talk but doesn’t walk the walk. You are scum.
November 9th, 2007 at 4:15 pmyou know something. I really think this crap is bumming me out. I used to LOVE the Christmas season. I mean, I still do but something has changed and I think Bill is most of the reason. there used to be a great feeling of good will in the air. now, tightlipped people are looking at me sideways if I give a secular greeting.
those greedy bastards. they love the word “Christ” so much they are willing to spend their christmas season being HALL MONITORS, sniffing around and making sure that other people are using words that THEY approve of.
what the hell kind of christmas spirit is that? MANY people celebrate MANY things this time of year. it used to be this was a time we could all have something in common. not anymore.
and another thing…
“Christmas”, as celebrated by most people IS, to a great extent, a secular holiday! how many people put up christmas trees and only go to a christian church if there is a wedding or a funeral? a LOT.
guys like Bill just won’t be happy until everybody is as miserable as they are.
November 9th, 2007 at 4:19 pmChristmas is not a holiday, it’s a church service: “Christ Mass”.
As has been said before, most of the holiday traditions are pagan in origin. Seasonla revelry was justified as understandable exitement at the prospect of attending the Christ Mass.
Jesus is not the reason for the season. Jesus is the EXCUSE for the season.
November 9th, 2007 at 4:20 pmTO all the dip sh!ts out there like Roger_Roger, the three wise men from the east were MUSLIM scholars. Live with it dill weed. The Bible had diversity long before you racist son of a b!tches were on this planet.
November 9th, 2007 at 4:20 pmAnd just the opposite holds true as well.
November 9th, 2007 at 4:22 pmTO all the dip sh!ts out there like Roger_Roger, the three wise men from the east were MUSLIM scholars. Live with it dill weed. The Bible had diversity long before you racist son of a b!tches were on this planet.
Comment by Spudge Boy — November 9, 2007 @ 4:20 pm
I’m not sure that’s entirely accurate, since language that produced the word “Muslim” wasn’t due to be invented for a few centuries. But they were most likely early Arabs or Persians.
November 9th, 2007 at 4:25 pmBan Christmas entirely; it’s the only way to get it to move inside to Christian places. I’m sick of having it shoved in my face for 6 weeks, and O’Reilly’s bullshit last year caused me to spend no money on gifts for christmas. That’s the effect he’s having: to ruin the holiday and hurt the merchants. I am very vocal about religious christmas crap in publicly-funded places, and I won’t allow it. and John Roberts can’t do a thing about it.
rightards haven’t the faintest idea of Christ’s teachings, being the mass-murdering, selfish pigs they are.
November 9th, 2007 at 4:26 pmyep… my niece got her message out early this year - a reheated, and re-worked-added-onto, missive “by” ben stein…
i wrote back:
the only people ragging about christmas are your fox news and limpballs idiots… ben stein is another idiot… but a sweet one… and this is old…
mountain out of molehills … and it’s distracting you from the real problems…
thanks for thinking about me, but don’t send bs like this…
real news and facts and truths, i’m all for… for instance - HERE is the actual essay by ben stein:
http://www.snopes.com/ politics/ soapbox/ benstein2.asp
start reading through THESE stories, if you want something REALLY worth fretting about:
http://thinkprogress.org/ … http://www.crooksandliars.com/ … so many…
take care!
November 9th, 2007 at 4:31 pm.
TO all the dip sh!ts out there like Roger_Roger, the three wise men from the east were MUSLIM scholars. Live with it dill weed. The Bible had diversity long before you racist son of a b!tches were on this planet.
Comment by Spudge Boy — November 9, 2007 @ 4:20 pm
I’m not sure that’s entirely accurate, since language that produced the word “Muslim†wasn’t due to be invented for a few centuries. But they were most likely early Arabs or Persians.
Comment by toasterhead — November 9, 2007 @ 4:25 pm
Islam wasn’t scheduled to appear for nearly 600 years; in all probability, the Magi were Zoroastrian priests.
November 9th, 2007 at 4:32 pmComment by Roger_Roger — November 9, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
“Christmas is a Christian Holiday, period.”
– In its purest form, yes. However, it has become so infused with symbolism and customs from other cultures and pagan rituals that it’s sometimes difficult to tell that the Christian aspect of Christmas is celebrating the birth of Christ. All the rest of the associations of the holiday either came from other cultural rituals or were contrived later.
“It is not a Holiday for the world religions.”
– No, Christmas is a holiday for Christians. However, Christmas does come at a time when other religions also have holidays. If Christians didn’t want to share, they should have chosen to celebrate the birth of Jesus at a time of year other than the winter solstice.
“While the other religions are free to convert to christianity and celebrate, they certainly don’t have to.”
– Agreed, but what’s your point here? Is there some imaginary hidden agenda you are railing against? Are you suggesting that one can’t celebrate unless they convert to Christianity? Other religions have their own holidays. Plus, in our multi-cultural environment, there’s a fair amount of cross-over. My best friend is Muslim; I am Christian. I celebrate Eid with her, and she celebrates Christmas with me. Neither one of us feels any restriction upon what we may or may not celebrate.
“My only point is the government should never force a company or any part of America not to celebrate Christmas by decorating.”
– Individuals may celebrate and decorate on their own property as they wish, as long as the decorations meet community decency standards (a naked gyrating Virgin Mary might not qualify). People who live in some subdivisions may be restricted by homeowners association covenants.
– Private businesses may celebrate and decorate as they please, also to community standards.
– The government cannot tell anyone not to display religious symbols on their own property (unless they create some sort of hazard). That would violate the “freedom of religion” portion of the first amendment.
“If the government is against christmas lights, christmas trees, and cross’, then the government is horrribly wrong.”
– The government isn’t against ANY of these things. But why are you talking about a cross in a discussion about Christmas? Just in case you’re confused, the cross has to do with the death of Jesus. Christmas is about the BIRTH of Jesus.
“We should be able to show our christian symbols anytime and anywhere.”
– And you can. On your own property. Or on somebody else’s property if you have permission. And, in many cases, on public property if you have a permit. However, when you are asking for a lavish taxpayer-funded display to celebrate a single religion at the exclusion of all others, this violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. There are ways to have centralized public displays that don’t violate the Establishment Clause, however. One — have a multi-cultural display that doesn’t endorse a single religion. Two — have displays that are funded by private groups instead of by taxpayers. Many communities allow for one of these options, or both.
There is NO war on Christmas. You are permitted to celebrate your holiday pretty much any way you wish — as you always have. This “war” is just a delusion of the right-wing.
November 9th, 2007 at 4:32 pmComment by Liberals Are Filled With Hate — November 9, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
Ya just can’t fix stupid.
November 9th, 2007 at 4:32 pmComment by Liberals Are Filled With Hate — November 9, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
Liberals Are Filled With Hate sez:
Yeah, g*ddamnit, you scumbag babykilling liberal haters are going to put up Christmas trees and wish everybody “Merry Christmas” — or we’re going to beat the livin’ sh*t out of your scumbag asses!!!
HAVE A G*DDAMN MERRY CHRISTMAS — OR ELSE!!!!!!
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Don’t hurt me, LAFWH!!! Jesus, I promise I’ll have a merry Christmas!! I promise!! Don’t kill me, please!!
November 9th, 2007 at 4:33 pm#126:
“If there is no war on Christmas, then STFU and let people put up trees in public schools and other places. Otherwise, go down in flames over trying to stifle America’s favorite holidays.”
If there is no war on Christmas then Bill O’reilly should STFU. That’s the point.
Nobody hates Christmas of Christians, and nobody is trying to stop people from celebrating Christmas. It’s just that the government should not be endorsing religion. There are plenty of secular aspects that government can embrace and plenty of non-governmental venues where people can observe the religious aspects.
“Radical left-wing hatemongers like yourselves will have to go to Iran to celebrate your favorite holiday.
TP = babykillers and anti-Christian bigots.”
Look who’s being a hatemonger.
November 9th, 2007 at 4:36 pmCareful, Squeaky - he may kill you.
November 9th, 2007 at 4:38 pmTP = babykillers and anti-Christian bigots.â€
Look who’s being a hatemonger.
Comment by Squeaky Wheels — November 9, 2007 @ 4:36 pm
nothing like the birth of Christ to bring out the very best in his followers.
what a sick fool LAFWH is.
November 9th, 2007 at 4:41 pmThis annual stupid nonissue makes me giggle uncontrolably. What a stupid waste of time. Do whatever you want around those days, say whatever you want. Get a freaking crip weirdos. What’s up with this weird Christain insecurity with their thinnly disguised Pagan influenced holidays? Leave each other alone for “God’s” sake! A heartfelt happy whatever you do seems righteous thing for all
November 9th, 2007 at 4:41 pmIf there is no war on Christmas, then STFU and let people put up trees in public schools and other places. Otherwise, go down in flames over trying to stifle America’s favorite holidays.
The Supreme Court will ensure the right to celebrate Christmas under John Roberts. Bet on it. Radical left-wing hatemongers like yourselves will have to go to Iran to celebrate your favorite holiday.
TP = babykillers and anti-Christian bigots.
Comment by Liberals Are Filled With Hate — November 9, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
I can see that your idea of Christmas spirit and my idea of Christmas spirit are quite different — I wonder what Jesus thinks of your post?
November 9th, 2007 at 4:44 pmGreat idea, but instead of Ramadan, go for Eid al-Adha instead (Ramadan was in September/October). Eid al-Adha is on December 20, and the proper greeting is “Eid Mubarak!†(EED mu-BAR-ack).
THAT will baffle them.
Comment by missmolly
Thanks. That would really confuse them.
Oh, and I will NOT put up with a war on Festivus.
November 9th, 2007 at 4:46 pmHow is a Christmas tree related to the Christian holiday? I don’t remember any conifers in that story.
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How is a Christmas tree related to the Christian holiday? I don’t remember any conifers in that story.
Comment by dbadass — November 9, 2007 @ 4:46 pm
You’re not familiar with the piney forests of Bethlehem? ask TCDumbass, he’ll make something up.
November 9th, 2007 at 4:51 pmComment by Liberals Are Filled With Hate — November 9, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
What right do you, BillO, or anybody have to tell a community how to celebrate a holiday? If the people of this town want to celebrate with roman candles and jack-o-lanterns; THAT IS THEIR RIGHT!!!
Maybe there isn’t a Christian majority in this particular town. Maybe they don’t want YOUR beliefs pushed down their throats. Maybe they just don’t give a rip. If the community is upset with the decision of the committee then they should change the people on the committee. That’s how democracy is supposed to work. And, barring a catastrophe, that’s how it’s going to work in ‘08. And, if fate is just, the evil of the “religious right”