Rove Decries ‘Nutty’ ‘Vitriolic’ Bloggers Who Spew ‘Bad Words’
Rove Decries ‘Nutty’ ‘Vitriolic’ Bloggers Who Spew ‘Bad Words’
Yesterday, ThinkProgress attended a Yahoo-sponsored Citizen 2.0 event in Washington, DC, at which Karl Rove discussed the intersection of politics and the Internet. Rove lamented the loss of civility in politics on the web, but then proceeded to use his speech as a partisan bashing of the netroots. According to Rove, bloggers are “nutty,” “vitriolic,” and “kooks.” The Washington Times reported on his remarks:
“The Web has given angry and vitriolic people more of a voice in public discourse,” said Mr. Rove, who served as one of President Bush’s top strategists until he resigned this past summer, and is a noted technology nut.
“People in the past who have been on the nutty fringe of political life, who were more or less voiceless, have now been given an inexpensive and easily accessible soapbox, a blog,” Mr. Rove said during a speech about politics and the Web at the Willard InterContinental, a hotel just blocks from his former place of employment.
“I’m a fan of many blogs. I visit them frequently and I learn a lot from them,” Mr. Rove said. “But there also blogs written by angry kooks.”
He also claimed that liberals use more “bad words,” comparing sites like DailyKos and Democratic Underground to Townhall and FreeRepublic. The “netroots often argue from anger rather than reason, and too often, their object is personal release, not political persuasion,” said Rove.
The Internets is not the reason hyperpartisan politics have been elevated; people like Karl Rove are. A look at some of Rove’s contributions to anger and vitriol in public discourse:
– When Bush ran against Democratic Texas governor Ann Richards in 1994, Rove was connected to a rumor that Richards was a lesbian.
– A former Rove staffer said that during the 1996 Alabama Supreme Court race, the campaign of Harold See — run by Rove — “initiated a whisper campaign” that See’s opponent “was a pedophile.”
– “Political operatives” have charged that Rove orchestrated a “widely disseminated rumor that John McCain, tortured as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, had betrayed his country under interrogation and been rendered mentally unfit for office.”
During the Q & A session, Rove admitted that despite the coarseness of the political debate, he hopes the netroots “keep at it” because it helps Republicans. If only the blogosphere were as civil as Karl Rove.
UPDATE: Looks like Rove took some time out to get his picture taken with some of those crazy netroots activists.
UPDATE II: Atrios highlights one of Rove’s oh-so-civil quotes: “We will fuck him. Do you hear me? We will fuck him. We will ruin him. Like no one has ever fucked him!”
UPDATE III: Kos weighs in with more thoughts: “Look, we all know Rove’s M.O. is to attack his enemy’s strongest points, so thanks Karl!”
UPDATE IV: The Washingtonian writes that Rove later IMed MoveOn’s Tom Matzzie, admitting he criticized him:
Rove criticized MoveOn.org’s Tom Matzzie for boasting that an antiwar group would end the war. Later, the two IM’d on a T-Mobile Sidekick provided by Clay Johnson, a Democratic Internet consultant and friend of the antiwar leader. According to Clay, Rove wrote to Matzzie: “This is rove and I did take your name in vain.” He then mysteriously added, “Have enjoyed listening to your [MoveOn?] calls!”

Michael Bassik at TechPresident and Ari Melber at The Notion have more. Danny at Beltway Blogroll notes that “the fact that Rove clearly only likes bloggers who help his cause or share his views shows that he, like too much of official Washington, still doesn’t appreciate the medium. What a shame.”
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November 9th, 2007 at 12:26 pmF*(k you KKKarl!
November 9th, 2007 at 12:27 pm"keep at it"? sure, karl. i'll keep at it. and you keep at it too. 'k?
November 9th, 2007 at 12:28 pmBeefeater sez:
It certainly fits in your case, Beefy.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:28 pmHere KKKarl a few "bad words" for you..."Go FV(K yourself" - quote by Dick Cheney.
Buck Fush
November 9th, 2007 at 12:30 pmKarl Rove has an opinion on bloggers. He is free to be not influenced by the blogs being put up. He is also free to influence the creation of blogs that do support him. If he has decried certain bloggers, that is an indication of his relative lack of intelligence.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:31 pmWho gives a crap about what that tubby little traitor says?
He should just drop dead.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:32 pm..."If only the blogosphere were as civil as Karl Rove".
November 9th, 2007 at 12:32 pmCivil! OMG. This from a man who while hiding in the shaddows conducted some of the foulest of dirty tricks throughout his entire career.
The ulitimate "ratf***er" of elections. He is as far away from American principles of democratic elections as can possibly be.
Please excuse me, neo-nazi Mr. Rove, but we are actually living in the real world, and we have real concerns about the death and destruction created by the traitors Bush and Cheney and their pathetic underlings...
November 9th, 2007 at 12:33 pmRove betrayed his country-no interrogation needed.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:34 pmHand over the emails Karl.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:34 pmPeople still want to listen to what Rove has to say? Why is that?
November 9th, 2007 at 12:35 pmCaption:
November 9th, 2007 at 12:35 pmFinally! I get to sit in the King's chair.
The notion of civility in politics is utterly naive. Politics is its own animal, and civility is not sacrosanct in politics
November 9th, 2007 at 12:37 pmThe internet is the worst possible thing that could have happened to the Right. Now their talking points get debunked on an hourly basis.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:38 pmFeel the fear. Karl was pretty adept at manipulating traditional media channels, ie. stupid reporters working for Time magazine like Matt Cooper. When bloggers like Marcy Wheeler can readily expose Rove's mendacity and Cooper's willingness to pass along lies in order to maintain "access" - the whole crooked system becomes unsustainable. Karl's a smart guy. He realizes the ability of people like him to operate in the old ways has been diminished. Evidently, he's not very happy about it.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:38 pmRove lamented the loss of civility in politics on the web,...
Gee, what could it be Mr. Rove? Could it be the two stolen Presidential Elections? Could it be the two wars of imperial aggression illegally launched by Mr. Bush? Could it be Mr. Bush's pathetic racist classist response to Hurricane Katrina and the entirely preventable flooding of New Orleans? I could probably go on all day, but here are a couple of more items: the attempted destruction of our sacred Bill of Rights by Bush and Cheney and their gangster cohorts. Torture? Waterboarding? Geneally acting like stupid fascist thugs?
November 9th, 2007 at 12:39 pmAngry and vitriolic, just like the Roveling...
Rove heading for the fainting couch because of the allegedly "bad language" used by sane bloggers is too funny. The little tub of lard is known to use the F... word quite liberally when he throws a fit.
I thought his avoir-du-poids-ness retired of public life?
November 9th, 2007 at 12:39 pmFrom Al Franken's Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them:
'Where did this malicious tone come from in the first place!? I submit that it can be traced to a day in 1981 when billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife fielded a reporter's question about his financial backing of conservative groups. "You f**cking communist c**t, get out of here," he said to Karen Rothmeyer of the Columbia Journalism Review. He went on to tell her that she was ugly and that her teeth were "terrible".'
November 9th, 2007 at 12:40 pmMakes you wonder if Rove either really believes his BS - in other words, in Rovesylvania, he REALLY doesn't see how divisive he's been and how he's earned all the enmity mods & progs and libs have for his scorched-earth political process - or if he knows he's spewing BS...and he just doesn't care, because he's made his, his buddies have made theirs, and the rest of us can just go eff ourselves as far as he's concerned?
I'm leaning towards the latter.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:43 pmGee, do you think people might be "angry and vitriolic" because Bushco is DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY???
November 9th, 2007 at 12:44 pmMan, if the shoe fits…..
Comment by Beefeater — November 9, 2007 @ 12:27 pm
beefeater let me tell you something about karl you may not know. back when he was a kid karl use to like to hang out at the local docks and give out hand jobs to sailors for candy bars and spare change. and do you know what his nick name was back then? "kookie karl". times have changed. karl's gotten pudgier and pastier but ya know something? deep down inside karl's still "kookie karl".
November 9th, 2007 at 12:44 pmmy favorite person "on the nutty fringe of political life" is Robert Novak.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:46 pmKarl Rove is a criminal. He's like the guy who yells"Fire" in a crowded movie theater. His sole mission is hatred, as proven from all the campaigns he's been involved with. He can shoot his rancid mouth off all he wants, claiming that liberals are angry, etc, but the hatred anyone in this country feels can be traced directily to him. He has split families, friends and some marriages apart. That was his goal! Karl Rove can identify the weak spot for any potential voter, and that's where Karl goes! He has no conscience, no heart, and no decency! He's a very sad little man, who has had a terribly sad little life. Anyone who holds that little man on a pedestal, is just as incompetent and corrupt and hypocritical as Rove. He will write a book, charge a fortune to make speeches, and pretend that he's actually contributed something to society. Get it fast Karl, people are wising up faster that the polar ice caps are thawing!
November 9th, 2007 at 12:48 pmThis is a typical complaint from a member of the ruling elite. Back in the mid-70's, the Trilateral Commission decried the "excess of democracy" in the 1960s. In those days, people were in the streets and publishing underground newspapers that regularly questioned how the government, corporations and the mainstream media were controlling the flow of information and the context of debate. People like Rove were fine with the new era just as long as the only criticism was coming from Rightwing talk radio; left wing blogs drive these people crazy and, of course, they have to belittle the bloggers as irrational and untrustworthy.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:52 pm'civility"?!?!!?
what about rove's "FREE BEER! FREE WOMEN!"
john mccain's "black baby"?
etc etc etc
what a load of sh*t
& lemme guess, no one called him on it.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:54 pm#19 - Rove has not retired just moved into the shadows so that Henry Waxman can't get at him. Don't kid yourself for one minute that he is still not shoveling shit anywhere he can.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:58 pmOFF TOPIC but has anyone noticed that things are deteriorating in Pakistan (a nuclear power)? Musharraf has just put opposition leader Bhutto under arrest and there are some violent things happenig.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:59 pmWhenever I see he's speaking in front of an audience I wonder what happened to the habit of Vaudeville audiences throwing rotten tomatoes and other veggies at really bad performers. I for one have a nice crisp head of iceberg lettuce with his name on it.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:01 pmWho knew Karl was a concern troll?
November 9th, 2007 at 1:03 pm"Agreed. Just read the posts here about me or any other conservative. There’s more profanity/feigned profanity and name calling per paragraph than any other site I’ve ever been on.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — November 9, 2007 @ 12:59 pm"
Well after you've watched the so-called right wing lie cheat and steal successfully for years you just get sick and tired of it and the frustration is bound to spill out into your discourse. Good theing we've got freedom of speech, eh. But really, check out my post above, number 20. It really is the far wacko right that started the truly malevolent name calling and ad hominem attacks.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:03 pmKarl Rove's mentor was Lee Atwater who taught Rove many dirty tricks, Atwater as he lay dying with cancer admitted that he had been wrong to live his life the way he did. Wonder if Rove will ever have regrets especially the way he treated war hero vets.
And Bigfoot - no one can slime the way of the Coulters, Limbaughs and Rove so don't even try to go there.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:05 pmAgreed. Just read the posts here about me or any other conservative. There’s more profanity/feigned profanity and name calling per paragraph than any other site I’ve ever been on.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — November 9, 2007 @ 12:59 pm
onan! you're back!
so you must like it.
eh?
(it's ok. conservatives are into s&m. btw are you a "dom" or a "sub"?)
November 9th, 2007 at 1:06 pmgummitch- I used to read those underground papers-way cool. The Berkeley Barb and LA Free Press. Also liked the underground comics too. Robert Crumb. Zap, Mr. Natural, and the Freak Brothers were my favorites.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:06 pm>Man, if the shoe fits…..
what if the shoe taps?
November 9th, 2007 at 1:08 pmRemember what Rove did to Max Cleland who lost both legs and arm? Now that is about as low as anyone can go. But just a day in the office for this slime bucket.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:11 pm>There’s more profanity/feigned profanity and name calling per paragraph >than any other site I’ve ever been on.
Theres one simple reason for that you imbred piece of white trash. Of course theres more vitriol on left wing sites than right wing.. right wing doesnt allow any dissent or disagreement, if you dont tow thier line, you get banned, so theres no one to argue with, so naturally things arent going to get as heated. Basically, that makes right wing sites nothing but giant echo chambers, but then again, whats new.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:12 pmRove has done more to damage this country than anyone since Aaron Burr.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:13 pmWTF (to be agreeably coarse) is Karl sitting in? Did he borrow Mr. Burns' wheels for the day? Has he decided to style himself, in retirement (aka, hiding) as some kind of McKinley-era robber baron, or has he just stepped out of his coffin for the occasion?
November 9th, 2007 at 1:13 pmThe only threads on this site with no acrimony are the ones you idiots havent gotten your talking points on, like our ally the turks attracking our ally the kurds, or articles about bushies getting canned for speaking the truth. No ones told you what to think
> imbred piece
whoops.. inbred...
November 9th, 2007 at 1:13 pmComment by Karleater
No one gives a crap if you and your butt buddy Karl think we're too angry or vulgar. You vomit up these prefab talking point in order to run away from actually addressing something of real substance.
When you and the other fascists take OUR criticisms of YOUR behavior and tone into consideration, then maybe you'll see us worry about how we come off. Until then eat me.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:13 pmYa got a link that’s not from some nutty website? Didn’t think so.
Comment by Beefeater — November 9, 2007 @ 1:09 pm
“But there also blogs written by angry kooks.â€
beefy, i know karl rove and you're no karl rove. you're an angry kook.
(i mean "if the shoe fits", eh?)
November 9th, 2007 at 1:13 pmWTF (to be agreeably coarse) is Karl sitting in? Did he borrow Mr. Burns’ wheels for the day? Has he decided to style himself, in retirement (aka, hiding) as some kind of McKinley-era robber baron, or has he just stepped out of his coffin for the occasion?
Comment by NoOneYouKnow — November 9, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
look closely to the right. see that silvery thing? it's the flush handle.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:15 pmF*** you in the God**** Arse**** Karl. I wouldn't have to cuss if nearly as much if it weren't for your sorry a** you piece of ****
http://www.tshirtinsurgency.com
November 9th, 2007 at 1:15 pmAgreed. Just read the posts here about me or any other conservative. There’s more profanity/feigned profanity and name calling per paragraph than any other site I’ve ever been on.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — November 9, 2007 @ 12:59 pm
Once again, what's so hard to understand about us being angry? BUSHCO IS DESTROYING OUR COUNTY AND ENDANGERING LIFE AS WE KNOW IT!!!
Neocons have become common criminals. They are a bane upon the Earth and must be crushed. They must be disavowed. They must be discredited (though they have done a pretty good job of discrediting themselves). And they must never be allowed to repeat the insane mistakes they have made.
If you are just stupid and blind, as opposed to evil, forgive us if we hurt your feelings. However, I fail to see how calling human garbage "bad names" can be compared to the crimes of the neocons.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:17 pmIraqs new crisis... Parents abandoning thier children..
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/11/09/iraq.children/index.html
November 9th, 2007 at 1:19 pmKarly does look a trifle ridiculous sitting in that big ol chair, kinda like a tiny Hitler on a bentwood throne.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:22 pmI dont recall ever saying the constitution was a GD piece of paper.
And why in the heck would anyone listen to Rove?
November 9th, 2007 at 1:24 pmSame strategy, same thing, but different day from Tubby McTreason Rove. Now it is the Attack of the Killer Leftist Bloggers show. If you ask Rove what he thinks about apple pie, he would say something like "Republican apple pie is the heart of America, a healthy nutritious part of a wholesome diet. Democratic apple pie is an sick nutritiousless fattening poison which pollutes the precious bodily fluids of America".
November 9th, 2007 at 1:25 pmWill 'armloads' of US cash buy tribal loyalty?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20071108/wl_csm/osheikh_1
this is what ive been saying alll along.. what happens when we stop bribing them to play nice?
November 9th, 2007 at 1:26 pm"[The US military] threw money at [the sheiks]," says Col. David Hsu, who heads a team advising Iraq's armed forces in Salahaddin, Saddam's home province. He shows recent digital photographs he captured of smiling sheikhs holding bundles of cash as they posed with US military officers. "You are basically paying civilians to turn in terrorists. Money was an expedient way to try to get results."
Say, who was it that called this walking heart attack a necessary evil?
I think it rhymed with Lush, or Tush, or Flush....lil help here?
November 9th, 2007 at 1:27 pmBetrayus and Chalabi are BFF's now..why? Both of them are slimy weasels who use american money to buy the results they want....any reduction in violence has much more to do with cash being stuffed in every hand that might otherwise carry a gun, and less to do with some magical military strategy thats suddently, magically having amazing results..
November 9th, 2007 at 1:28 pmYou have gone a long way toward proving Karl’s point, and I thank you for that.
Comment by Beefeater — November 9, 2007 @ 1:23 pm
how about just paying me back the five bucks you owe me instead?
November 9th, 2007 at 1:28 pmSounds like Rove got Cheney's behavior on the Senate Floor confused with the blogs...
Ah, GOP hypocrisy! The ONLY VALUE consistent with the party!
November 9th, 2007 at 1:29 pmYou have gone a long way toward proving Karl’s point, and I thank you for that.
Comment by Beefeater — November 9, 2007 @ 1:23 pm
And so has Anne Coulter, you should be thanking IT instead...
November 9th, 2007 at 1:30 pmAgreed. Just read the posts here about me or any other conservative. There’s more profanity/feigned profanity and name calling per paragraph than any other site I’ve ever been on.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — November 9, 2007 @ 12:59 pm
You mean like your post on the previous thread that flung the 'feigned bad word' traitor at liberals?
Ah, the HYPOCRISY of the GOP TROLLS, consistently, foolishly pathetic.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:30 pmHey Beefeater, who was it that told a senator to FOff!
Bwah. Karls just being a good lil hypocrite and doing what he has awlays done, lame others for their weakness.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:32 pmMy guess is that Jeff Gannon had a "personal release" in Mr. Rove's face.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:33 pmI fear he is referring to me.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:33 pmAlso, calling a sh!t-stain a sh!t-stain is description, not abuse.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:34 pm>You mean like your post on the previous thread that flung the ‘feigned >bad word’ traitor at liberals?
Right.. imagine for a moment what vile flame-wars redstate would degenerate into if we were able to go on there without getting banned and talk down to them like bigfwat does to us
November 9th, 2007 at 1:35 pmJust consider the source.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:36 pmbeefy will return in 30 minutes. please be patient.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:37 pmoh come on the guys nickname is Turdblossom. And we all know that is a pile of necessary evil bovine manure, both names given to him by the Bush family.
And need I remind the trollocons that he called himself Grendel and Moby Dick?
November 9th, 2007 at 1:39 pmAnd need I remind the trollocons that he called himself Grendel and Moby Dick?
Comment by Xisithrus — November 9, 2007 @ 1:39 pm
grendel and moby dick? man that's conceited.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:42 pmAnyone notice that the trolls come here specifically to incite anger with their passive aggressive style of posing strawman questions in a feigned polite manner. They then act offended by the response they deservedly receive, offer nothing of value to the debate on the topic of a thread, have no facts to back up their assertions but they still come back EVERY day. Yes Mr. Rove, we understand your methods and that of your flying monkeys but unfortunately for you and your party the facts just aren't on your side of any argument. The Right is clearly flustered by lib.prog blogs because they haven't sussed out a way to undermine them. Too bad about that "free speech" thing huh, Mr. Rove?
November 9th, 2007 at 1:44 pmOh and by the way...GO CHENEY YOURSELF!!!
grendel and moby dick? man that’s conceited.
Comment by joe cantwell
Eh, Moby Dick swallows men whole! Just ask Gannon!
November 9th, 2007 at 1:45 pmYou have gone a long way toward proving Karl’s point, and I thank you for that.
Comment by Beefeater
He wasn't making a point, he was trying to smear leftwing blogs. No one is listening to Bush or him any longer. Or you.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:46 pmComment by A Patriot Acting — November 9, 2007
Its the same tired DARVO method, it helped bring them to power and they now have no other methodology
First make a radical untrue ignorant statement: Edwards is a faggot, The troops are phony,
Then Deny it.
Then Attack
Which Reverse
Victim
and Offender
Its what rapists do when they blame the victim for wearing sexy clothes its twisted logic just like all things neo-kooks do or say.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:51 pmSh!t-stains, sh!t-stains! They are all effing sh!t-stains!!!
November 9th, 2007 at 1:54 pmNovember 9th, 2007 at 1:55 pm
I love how blogs and bloggers are always ignored and slammed like they are an unvoting or irrelevant minority. Then Atrios puts up a "please donate to this awesome progressive" post on Eschaton and suddenly that person has a million dollars. I love it.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:00 pmI take it a sh!t-stain is a natural result of putting underwear around a turd blossom.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:01 pmRove needs to get the memo post haste -- you know the the one that emphatically concludes his irrelevance. Permanent Republican majority indeed. Shouldn't he be in jail or pushing down little old ladies or something?
November 9th, 2007 at 2:01 pmRove of the Thousand Year Repukelickin reign is having diffculty dealing with his irrelevance.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:10 pmIt sounds as though Rove is crying about his own downfall to me, since blogs had much to do with it.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:16 pmAlso, rove is crying because the playing filed has been leveled, and you know how the "cheat to win" Repubs hate it when their opponents are on equal footing.
Rove better get his crying towel ready, because whoever wins the Repub primary is going to be ripped to shreads by us bloggers. Rightfully so I may add.
Rove would be wise to shut his pie-hole, pronto. The more he reminds the U.S. population that he still exists, the more he sets himself up to have his a$$ thrown in prison for treason, where he and Bush and Cheney and the rest of the enabler republiscums belong.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:24 pmI take it a sh!t-stain is a natural result of putting underwear around a turd blossom.
Comment by Xisithrus — November 9, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
That's a very good theory, however, since the sh!t-stains in the halls of power quash scientific research, we may never know for sure.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:24 pmFYT.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:36 pmhere's some angry vitriol for you, Karl:
You're a traitor. You released to the press the name of a covert CIA agent working to stop the proliferation of Iraq's WMDs, at a time when our nation was at war to stop the same proliferation of Iraq's WMDs.
The penalty for treason is death. Says so in the Constitution.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:39 pmIsn't it time we saw all of these traitors swinging from a rope? Nothing short of a public hanging will be sufficient retribution for their acts of treason and war crimes.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:42 pmLying Lieberman & Trudblossom are setting the stage for regulated internet access.
When Congress voted against Net Neutrality, is was the first step in allowing corporate control of free speech via blogging.
Soon, you will be charged a subscription fee to access 'level 2' of the internet. Will you pay to blog? Do you think free speech is what the Roves of the world really want?
Pay attention, folks. Daily news is mostly just a diversion to keep sheepeople thinking they know what they think.
Look at 'retroactive immunity' for Telcoms. They're in a position to do anything for whomever controls the WH; in fact, they already have.
This is not a party issue. This is about power, control and then sustaining that control.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:50 pmPeriod.
“But there also blogs written by angry kooks.â€
Like those at redstate and michelle malkin's sites.
You gotta love Karl. He's ever the optimist. I almost spit out my coffee when I read that he thinks blogs help Republicans. I guess he doesn't realize that the 2006 Democratic victory had a lot to do with the internet.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:58 pmComment by bilbobaggins — November 9, 2007 @ 2:58 pm
He did the math.
November 9th, 2007 at 3:01 pmAgreed. Just read the posts here about me or any other conservative. There’s more profanity/feigned profanity and name calling per paragraph than any other site I’ve ever been on.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Are you telling me that if progressives were allowed to post on conservative blogs (which they currently aren't), that the conservatives would be civil to them and not call them names? Just listen to Malkin and Coulter. Do you think they are civil?
People on this blog and others do use bad words. Sometimes that's the only way you can voice your frustration at people who are destroying this once great nation.
November 9th, 2007 at 3:05 pmNeocons: "We never met a fact, feeling, ideal or young boy we can't pervert".
November 9th, 2007 at 3:06 pmCriminals like Karl Rove abhore the internet and the blogs because their activities are outed immediately. There's no hiding from the internet, as the Bush Crime Cabal knows all too well.
Imagine if we didn't have this critical venue as a means of keeping them "on guard"? The crime activity would be rampant and no one would know about any of it, thanks to the whoring MSM.
November 9th, 2007 at 3:09 pmLook! It's Dr. Evil from the Austin Powers movie!
November 9th, 2007 at 3:11 pmHe wasn’t making a point, he was trying to smear leftwing blogs. No one is listening to Bush or him any longer. Or you.
Comment by lefty
Unfortunately there are still 24% of the sheepepole in this country who still listen to Bush and Karl. It's sad, but true.
November 9th, 2007 at 3:13 pmOne can almost feel sympathy for the 24%ers. The poor saps don't realize that Bushco would gleefully torture every last one of them for a vote or a shiny nickel. They actually think that their complicity makes them immune. Poor saps.
November 9th, 2007 at 3:25 pm#98, Beeteater,
Kind of like restrooms?
Maybe Senator Craig can 'help you out'.
November 9th, 2007 at 3:27 pmI think the 24% refuses to admit they're wrong because they know by doing so they confess they are complicit in the deaths of our troops and the innocent Iraqis, the ruination of one of America's great cities, New Orleans, the destruction of our government, and our Constitution, and the pillaging of our treasury. Ignorance for them is bliss. So we need to keep making it impossible for them to turn a blind eye to what they, and they alone allowed to happen to this country. They are no better than a serial killer in a courtroom who pleads innocent, knowing full well he is guilty. And they all deserve the same punishment our country would level at a serial killer. Treason = Death.
November 9th, 2007 at 3:32 pmKarl who ?
November 9th, 2007 at 3:32 pmSEE Karl Rove has been coming onto TP as various a-hole posters. I wonder which screen-names the pudgy creep used on here?
November 9th, 2007 at 3:42 pmI think the 24% refuses to admit they’re wrong because they know by doing so they confess they are complicit in the deaths of our troops and the innocent Iraqis, the ruination of one of America’s great cities, New Orleans, the destruction of our government, and our Constitution, and the pillaging of our treasury. Ignorance for them is bliss. So we need to keep making it impossible for them to turn a blind eye to what they, and they alone allowed to happen to this country. They are no better than a serial killer in a courtroom who pleads innocent, knowing full well he is guilty. And they all deserve the same punishment our country would level at a serial killer. Treason = Death.
Comment by Tender Chicken — November 9, 2007 @ 3:32 pm
That bears repeating. I think you might appreciate "The Authoritarians" if you haven't read it already. It's not encouraging but it is educational.
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
November 9th, 2007 at 3:45 pmthere is no god.
how else can you explain this?
if there was a god, when Rove had the GALL to call ANYBODY "angry and vitriolic" the earth would crack open and swallow him hole.
forget god, why don't people laugh derisive laughter in the man's face?
what the hell is wrong with the world? Rove and Joe Lieberman are Miss Manners?
what's wrong with this picture?
November 9th, 2007 at 4:27 pmPredictions of the next 911 by a Professional Geologist.
http://www.H2onE2.com Glacial Respiration, Conceptual Ring of Ice, The End of Linear Western Religion
A Geological Exploration of an E2 Earthen Planet And the H2 Human Species
Author: B Billy Marse, Professional Geologist
Brief Description:
http://www.H2onE2.com is an exploration of the universe, geology, climate, biology, humans, psychology, folklore and ancient structures to uncover the beginning and disclose the end of linear western religion. The true DaVinci Code behind the bible is not a supreme spiritual power but a scientific record of climate change described as Glacial Respiration. The Greek philosophers originated the practice of communicating a hidden idea or message in the short story format, as a metaphor. In the bible, metaphors conceal historic climate change within the fanciful stories. The theory of Glacial Respiration explains the myth behind the Holy Grail, structures such as the Great Pyramids, Stonehenge, Easter Island and is the knowledge that was collected in the Jewish Ark of the Covenant.
The environmental changes of Glacial Respiration determine all biological evolution and can explain why higher forms of intelligent humans developed. Further, Glacial Respiration releases the secret hidden by the Knights Templars, Masonic Order and all religions. Uncovers an advanced Blue-Blooded semi-industrial Atlantian Civilization that was built and destroyed many times over for the last million years. The book ends with an explanation of how linear western religion will be physically ended and describes the construction of the doomsday device capable of fulfilling its own self defining prophesy, “Revelationsâ€. H2onE2 is a mind-expanding experience that stimulates the soul, instinct, intellect and is an almanac to the past, present and future of humanity. Rise, awaken and evolve into H3 human consciousness.
The discovery:
November 9th, 2007 at 4:50 pmAs a Professional Geologist, I attempted to link the Dust Bowl/Great Depression to a pre-glacial condition or mechanism and ended up writing the book H2onE2. I felt that there was a strong connection between the Dust Bowl and transition back into Glacial Winter. I did notice that my professors scientifically crumbled every time I mentioned the relationship. I could not go back in time or locate indisputable proof. The proof came from understanding all educational disciplines including history and theology. I soon discovered that all religious text both eastern and western continually described significant climate change conditions relating to Glacial Respiration. For years I fought off mixing science and religion until I discovered that the origins of all religions were founded or created to help humans psychologically survive the harsh earthen environment. Without reason I soon accepted that the world's complicated religions were the same. This came true and I continued to write and discover. Everything came into place as though I was unlocking a 10,000-year-old puzzle. I also realized this puzzle was opened before I discovered it, by someone else, some other group. If so, further understanding of this knowledge might be extracted from significant historical events. Lastly, this is the vital information needed to make future predictions.
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double standard, TP?
the UPDATE II will not get through the filter, it seems...
this is a test...
November 9th, 2007 at 4:56 pmyep...
November 9th, 2007 at 4:57 pmHey, c'mon people, chill out already. After all, we're talking about a guy who no less a revered liberal icon than Donna Brazile - Al Gore's 2000 campaign manager, in case you didn't know - loves almost like a brother. And this from a lady who originally hails from New Orleans, no less, supposedly raped and ruined by the nefarious and heartless Bushies.
What I think we all need to learn from this touching and unlikely friendship is that, even though there will inevitably be issues on which people of honor and goodwill may differ, at the end of the day we're all loyal and patriotic Americans who share the same basic goals of peace, prosperity, harmony and perpetually low interest rates. To paraphrase Rodney Dangerfield's famous plaint: Why can't we all just respect each other and get along?
If you have even a smidgeon of intellectual honesty in your soul, you'll have to admit that Donna's generous and inclusive approach makes a heckuva lot more sense than the endless vitriol of the insane, hysterical, ultra-extremist bloggers, be they left, right, or sensible centrist.
November 9th, 2007 at 4:58 pmThanks TurdBlossom,
Though you resigned from your posisition in disgrace, please don't stop catapulting your propoganda.
You're too easy a target. :')
Troubled
November 9th, 2007 at 6:23 pmPlease excuse the shameless promotion, but I posted a brief mention of this post on my blog today. TheChrisBerryBlog
November 9th, 2007 at 6:58 pmHey Karl, ever the expression, "it takes one to know one"?
November 9th, 2007 at 7:18 pmHe is no longer a guv employee, so fu(k him and
KILL KARL ROVE!!!!!!!
November 9th, 2007 at 9:17 pmKILL KARL ROVE!!!!!!!
KILL KARL ROVE!!!!!!!
KILL KARL ROVE!!!!!!!
KILL KARL ROVE!!!!!!!
KILL KARL ROVE!!!!!!!
KILL KARL ROVE!!!!!!!
KILL KARL ROVE!!!!!!!
KILL KARL ROVE!!!!!!!
KILL KARL ROVE!!!!!!!
KILL KARL ROVE!!!!!!!
KILL KARL ROVE!!!!!!!
KILL KARL ROVE!!!!!!!
Whenever I see he’s speaking in front of an audience I wonder what happened to the habit of Vaudeville audiences throwing rotten tomatoes and other veggies at really bad performers. I for one have a nice crisp head of iceberg lettuce with his name on it.
Comment by lefty
Oh, OH I got a cinder block. Yup, right through his scrawny, milky white head...DEAD.
November 9th, 2007 at 9:37 pmOh, somebody called Rove a "bad word"; they called him a liar.
But Rove himself is an angel, calling Ann Richards a "lesiban".
It's all perfectly clear. At least in Rove's small mind.
November 9th, 2007 at 11:54 pmOh heavens! Not bad words!
Get bent, Karl.
November 10th, 2007 at 1:07 amOh heavens! Not bad words!
Get bent, Karl.
Comment by Zooey — November 10, 2007 @ 1:07 am
Yeah, it's not like Cheney uses them on the senate floor, or Bush flips off the cameras! There's NO HYPOCRISY in this WHINY LITTLE KKKARLISM!!!
There's NOTHING VULGAR about murdering hundreds of thousands of people for oil! That's just GOOD CLEAN FUN compared to VULGAR WORDS!!! The wingnuts like KKKARL sure have their priorities straight don't they?
November 10th, 2007 at 3:43 amIf you have even a smidgeon of intellectual honesty in your soul, you’ll have to admit that Donna’s generous and inclusive approach makes a heckuva lot more sense than the endless vitriol of the insane, hysterical, ultra-extremist bloggers, be they left, right, or sensible centrist.
Comment by Concern Troll — November 9, 2007 @ 4:58 pm
And what did that REACHING OUT give us? AN IMPEACHMENT from the WINGNUTS over a freaking affair!
Sorry, but you 'indie' types need to get off your *sses and realize that the WINGNUTS are WORKING TO DESTROY OUR DEMOCRACY. Your FAKE CONCERN is just TYPICAL GOP SH!!!T! Grow a pair you stupid coward!
November 10th, 2007 at 3:45 amwow...vitriol coming from the man who wrote the book on how to divide a nation..how to tear families apart...simply by feeding them bullsh!t...this guy is truly amazing...he has no conscience what so ever.And he's still stirring up the sh!t.Typical repug behavior..first the authoritarian,then the spin attacks....he must of been Geobbels in another life...or...Himmler.
November 11th, 2007 at 12:07 amBoo!
November 11th, 2007 at 9:57 amRove should be behind barrs!
November 11th, 2007 at 1:33 pmIf the USA was not a FACIST STATE, a crook like him would have been locked up long time ago! Treason used to be a crime in the US...
November 11th, 2007 at 1:35 pm