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Black military enlistment drops under Bush.

In the last several years under President Bush, black enlistment in the Army has dropped “by about half.” CBS News reports that this trend is fueled by strong dissatisfaction with Bush’s Iraq policies:

The Department of Defense has studied why black enlistment has plummeted and found many of the people they call “influencers” in the black community – parents, teachers, clergy – feel in general that Bush administration policies have hurt African Americans. And more than any other group, they oppose the war in Iraq. [...]

But even here, there are gung-ho Marines troubled by this war. Albert Thames retired as a staff sergeant 30 years ago.

“The war is very unpopular, and it’s going to get worse,” he said. “As long as it’s a volunteer army, I’d tell ‘em not to volunteer.”

“A recent CBS News poll showed 83 percent of African-American respondents said the Iraq invasion was a mistake. In addition, the president’s approval rating has hit rock-bottom with black voters at about 9 percent, according to a 2006 Pew Research Center poll.”



193 Responses to “Black military enlistment drops under Bush.”

  1. Badmoodman says:

    Kanye West was right.


  2. jb says:

    “A recent CBS News poll showed 83 percent of African-American respondents said the Iraq invasion was a mistake. In addition, the president’s approval rating has hit rock-bottom with black voters at about 9 percent, according to a 2006 Pew Research Center poll.” 4:23 pm

    More evidence that blacks are smarter than the rest of us.


  3. jb says:

    Kanye West was right.

    Comment by Badmoodman — November 11, 2007 @ 4:31 pm

    Of course he was right, He was stating the obvious.


  4. Jackie says:

    To hear the GOP explain it African Americans should be grateful they are allowed to live in the United States and should be willing to die for what ever
    this country wants. It doesn’t matter that Blacks
    are worth but 5 per cent and animals are worth more.
    Minorities are expendable and if they don’t like it
    send them back from where they came. As the
    White House said those who died in this illegal invasion are just numbers not humans. If Blacks
    don’t get back to obeying the Master the South
    will raise again and slavery will come back to make
    this country great again. We don’t need illegal
    immigrants for the fields use Blacks as was done
    before and let the Blacks go to the Middle East and
    die for the US so others can benefit. Yes as the
    White House wants to bomb Iran and send only Backs in to fight don’t ask them just send them. Blacks
    should be honored to die for the US as the US doesn’t think they are equal in the United States.
    This is the thinking of the GOP and some Republicans
    and of course the Christian Religious Right.


  5. ralph the wonder llama says:

    More evidence that blacks are smarter than the rest of us.

    Comment by jb — November 11, 2007 @ 4:33 pm

    Not necessarily; they just see these things more clearly, because the administration has no interest in entertaining them with bread and circuses. As long as the white majority is distracted, BushCo can safely ignore black concerns.


  6. Saint Augustine says:

    I understand when people who disagree with the policies and actions of this administration choose not to enlist.

    What I don’t understand is how people who support the war and the president don’t want to enlist.

    Don’t those who support the President believe enough in the better good they preach to sacrifice their time, their limbs or their lives to defeat their enemy.


  7. VerbalKint says:

    Blacks are more likely to approach a Republican administration with skepticism because of the way Republicans have used the race card in politics, and because Republican policies have been consistently bad for blacks for decades. The only people who still cling to Bush are white evangelical voters who are both unskeptical and uncritical towards their authoritarian leaders.


  8. loretta says:

    I cannot believe that Alan Keyes counts as 9%.


  9. dixie blood says:

    I cannot believe that Alan Keyes counts as 9%.

    Comment by loretta — November 11, 2007 @ 4:49 pm

    Add in fat a$$ Clarence (Uncle Tom) Thomas and you get 9% by weight “before cooking”!!!


  10. gus smith says:

    Very wise and astute group of Americans.


  11. joe cantwell says:

    where’s is “usual leftist”?

    taking the coward’s way out, no doubt.


  12. pete says:

    Of course, most of the worst Reps were scairt away from the Old-Racist-Southern Democrats by all the “uppity black folk”. It would be poetic justice if black voters finish their destruction.


  13. pete says:

    Daryll

    Your lies don’t even scare children anymore, well human children. Peddle your B.S. in Kansas where it’s appreciated.


  14. katy says:

    i watched this show this morning… every sunday, actually… a ritual…

    i was rather surprised at what i was hearing, at what CBS allowed me to hear, over and over – “…I’d tell ‘em not to volunteer.”
    awesome…

    i’m reminded of a call randi rhodes had one day recently… a black man told randi that it was because of dubya that he could not, would not, re-inlist, because he couldn’t accept him as a commander in chief…
    he was hopeful for the 08 elections to get someone he could be proud to serve under and planned to re-inlist then…

    i can’t do that conversation any justice here… know that it brought tears to my eyes… randi was choked up too…


  15. Zooey says:

    Daryll’s nailing himself on the cross again…

    **yawn**


  16. dixie blood says:

    Comment by Daryll — November 11, 2007 @ 6:00 pm

    IGNORE THIS TROLL, IT’S JUST THE SHIFT CHANGE AT THE GOP CENTER FOR PEDOPHILLIA. HE’S HERE TO REPLACE “USUAL LEFTIST”!!! I BET HE USES HIS OTHER HAND!!


  17. pete says:

    Having been beset by evil, they recognize evil through it’s disguise. They may be oppressed, they may be destroyed, but, never again will they be deceived.


  18. katy says:

    hey dixie blood – i need your help here
    it’s weighing heavy… thanks!
    .


  19. upside99 says:

    Katy, obviously this black man was not able to view the broad picture, the purpose why we are fighting this war. We are trying to liberate the Iraqis. We are attempting to give them a taste of our beautiful freedom. As we come upon the day that we memorize and celebrate our veterans, it truly saddens me that you consider these men and women as incompetent people who cannot win a modern war. Would you want your family members or friends to inform you that you cannot be a successful person in life? Think critically about denegrating the skills and intelligence of our military service members.

    Comment by Daryll — November 11, 2007 @ 6:22 pm

    Poor Daryll, He has drunk so myc BushCo Kool-aid, is eyes are floating. Forcing our version of “freedom” on Iraq and Nation Building is a sick way to run a country. And the fact we have lost our freedom to this bunch of Chickenhwak scumbags is almost laughable (if not so painful.)

    And Daryll, I am a Vietnam COmbat vet and marched yesterday as part of the anti-war group in our parade and am doing my partin bringing our brave men and women home, out of Harm’s Way, and to stop fighting DUbya’s ego war and Israel’s race war.


  20. ralph the wonder llama says:

    I blame Jesse Jackson, “Porky” Al Sharpton, the Black Caucus and bloggers like you.

    Comment by Daryll — November 11, 2007 @ 6:00 pm

    Not very Christian, now, is it, Daryll?


  21. dixie blood says:

    Comment by ralph the wonder llama — November 11, 2007 @ 6:35 pm

    Please don’t feed the troll. S/he/it will just sh/it up the entire place.


  22. ralph the wonder llama says:

    obviously this black man was not able to view the broad picture, the purpose why we are fighting this war.

    Comment by Daryll — November 11, 2007 @ 6:22 pm

    Translation: “this black man disageees with me; therefore he is obviously incapable of thinking critically. It is impossible for any human being to disagree with me unless he is limited in intelligence.”

    Doesn’t the Bible warn against Pride, Daryll?


  23. Wayne says:

    Comment by Daryll

    Since YOU support this war, why do YOU NOT support it enough to sign up and fight for your convictions?
    Why do you expect others to fight and die for a war YOU support?

    Coward.


  24. upside99 says:

    Why do you expect others to fight and die for a war YOU support?

    Coward.
    Comment by Wayne — November 11, 2007 @ 6:40 pm

    That is the NeoCon Chickenhawk way; let others shed blood for your profit. Scumbags!


  25. dixie blood says:

    hey dixie blood – i need your help here…
    it’s weighing heavy… thanks!
    .

    Comment by katy — November 11, 2007 @ 6:32 pm

    I’m happy to help, but, with what? What is “it” and why is “it” “weighing heavy?” I’m 5′7 and weigh 145 lbs. I could lose a few pounds but I didn’t realize is showed over the “the series of tubes.”


  26. foreyes says:

    In addition, the president’s approval rating has hit rock-bottom with black voters at about 9 percent, according to a 2006 Pew Research Center poll.” 4:23 pm |
    ———————–

    Once again, black voters are in the forefront in defense of the Constitution.

    If I may say so: Martin Luther King did not die in vain!


  27. upside99 says:

    I have one question, if you see a serious problematic issue within a nation, which could effect the the security of Western Nations, do you believe that other nations should be complacent towards this potential problem?

    Comment by Daryll — November 11, 2007 @ 6:43 pm

    Yes I do, and that is why I am doing everything I can to get the scumbags in the WH out to save our country, and the rest of the world. And hopefully try them for treason.


  28. pete says:

    Having shaken their yokes they shall lead us from our thralldom to false prophets.


  29. katy says:

    “As we come upon the day…”

    TODAY is the day, you idjit sorry-assed parody…

    “memorize”? … like i said…

    and today, my rightwing idjit sister stated that george bush has the most scruples than anyone she knows… which doesn’t say much at all for the kind of people she associates with… and that mostly finishes MY association with her… i had, until today, some notion that she and her husband were coming around… proved me wrong…


  30. upside99 says:

    Wayne, I support our nation in a different manner (DoD Contractor). You do not have to be a military service member to support our nation.

    Comment by Daryll — November 11, 2007 @ 6:48 pm

    That explains a lot. You are more interested in your job than the troops; Keep the Occupation going, at any cost.

    That’s all we need to know about you!


  31. Zooey says:

    2003 – 486
    2004 – 849
    2005 – 846
    2006 – 722
    2007 – 857

    3760 troops dead

    Maybe Daryll has some proof of a decrease in violence in Iraq?

    BTW, Daryll. F_ck off.


  32. dixie blood says:

    [...] I have one question, if you see a serious problematic issue within a nation, which could effect the the security of Western Nations, do you believe that other nations should be complacent towards this potential problem?

    Comment by Daryll — November 11, 2007 @ 6:43 pm

    Now dat dar, is pure unadulterated, genuine strawman RePugniScum bullsh|t plain as day!! Shucks this is very rare jibberish??


  33. katy says:

    dixie – click on that link @ 6:32 pm…

    a discussion on another thread about a comment you made…
    i need to know if it took your meaning wrong or not…
    .


  34. pete says:

    Comment by katy — November 11, 2007 @ 6:50 pm

    The Force is strong, and dark, in our Chimperror. Here’s an article that may help, if you can convince her to read it.

    http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Vanity_Fair_editor_Craig_Unger_on_the_Bush_family_feud%2C_neoconservatives_and_the_Christian_right


  35. upside99 says:

    Comment by Zooey — November 11, 2007 @ 6:51 pm

    Zooey,

    Just read #33, it says all we need to see about him.


  36. dixie blood says:

    That explains a lot. You are more interested in your job than the troops; Keep the Occupation going, at any cost.

    That’s all we need to know about you!

    Comment by upside99 — November 11, 2007 @ 6:50 pm

    Warmongering FACIST!! Nothing more or less!!!


  37. pete says:

    Evil, once recognized, must be destroyed and made as if it had never been.


  38. upside99 says:

    Upside99, so you are basically stating that you support the over-throw of our government as well as other Western Nations?

    Comment by Daryll — November 11, 2007 @ 6:52 pm

    I support the overthrow of this Cabal in power in DC, to SAVE the other Western Nations! Open your eyes, unlike the rest of your 23%ers.


  39. pete says:

    Hi Zooey! I have to admit that “un-holy Daryll” is a refreshing change from the rest of the crop of trolls. How sad is that, for them?


  40. pete says:

    And the innocent will be spared the punishment of their wicked leaders.


  41. upside99 says:

    Comment by pete — November 11, 2007 @ 6:56 pm

    Yea, even if he is a war profiteer and troop hater.


  42. Zooey says:

    Hi pete,

    The Daryll troll always has me shaking my head at his child-like manner.


  43. Zooey says:

    Just read #33, it says all we need to see about him.
    Comment by upside99 — November 11, 2007 @ 6:54 pm

    Yep, I knew that about him. He puts himself above others. Very “christ-like,” wouldn’t you say?

    **eyes rolling**


  44. upside99 says:

    The Daryll troll always has me shaking my head at his child-like manner.

    Comment by Zooey — November 11, 2007 @ 6:59 pm

    And his blind obedience and butt-licking of the War criminal Dubya and Darth Cheney!


  45. Zooey says:

    One place you won’t find Daryll or his kind is TheZoo. Stop by anytime.


  46. pete says:

    Comment by Zooey — November 11, 2007 @ 6:59 pm

    Yea! It quoth the debased gibberish of the feeble-minded.

    Plus it’s just plain mean. No wonder it wishes death on people. It must be an awful way to live.


  47. upside99 says:

    Yep, I knew that about him. He puts himself above others. Very “christ-like,” wouldn’t you say?

    **eyes rolling**

    Comment by Zooey — November 11, 2007 @ 7:01 pm

    You would think he would be too ashamed to even admit that while posting his BushCo Chickenhawk crap, but then he is a quasi-Xian and a Repug, I guess.


  48. Zooey says:

    It must be an awful way to live.
    Comment by pete — November 11, 2007 @ 7:02 pm

    Only for the people around him. Daryll hasn’t a clue.


  49. Zooey says:

    …he is a quasi-Xian and a Repug, I guess.
    Comment by upside99 — November 11, 2007 @ 7:03 pm

    …and a self-hating black man.


  50. pete says:

    One place you won’t find Daryll or his kind is TheZoo. Stop by anytime.

    Comment by Zooey — November 11, 2007 @ 7:02 pm

    I’ve been lurking. I just seem to need the vitriol to inspire participation. It’s one of my flaws I hope to correct. But, in the meantime, I’ll keep poking trolls and watching them splutter.


  51. dixie blood says:

    Comment by katy — November 11, 2007 @ 6:52 pm

    My first post on that thread is as follows:

    And Afganistan is exporting heroin/poppies/etc in record numbers…The CIA, NSA, FBI run drugs into the country (and weapons out) and look the other way, etc.

    Comment by dixie blood — November 10, 2007 @ 5:43 pm

    A troll (Kilo) came along and tried to insinuate that I was talking about running drugs out of America and weapons out of Afgansistan. Most readers understood my comment. Only the troll did not.

    I hope this helps. If not please provide more details or specific links to comments using the date/time link to the right of the poster.


  52. Zooey says:

    …but you must admit that once the surge was umplemented, military casualty statistics decreased compared to the earlier and mid part of 2007.
    Comment by Daryll — November 11, 2007 @ 7:04 pm

    The only thing I’ll admit is that after you’ve killed all the people who disagree with you, the level of violence will go down. BUT THE PROBLEM STILL EXISTS. Just wait until people are encouraged to return to their homes, due to the lessening of violence. The you’ll see a f_cking surge!

    Why are you so stupid?


  53. Zooey says:

    Comment by pete — November 11, 2007 @ 7:04 pm

    Cesspool parties every Saturday night. Anything goes. ;)


  54. katy says:

    5′7 and weigh 145 lbs.

    YOU’RE SKINNY AS A RAIL!!!
    btw…


  55. Xisithrus says:

    but you must admit that once the surge was umplemented, military casualty statistics decreased compared to the earlier and mid part of 2007.
    Comment by Daryll — November 11, 2007

    They did not decrease 2007 has the highest death rate, for our troops, in Iraq and Afghanistan


  56. pete says:

    Gotta go, so I’ll leave you with this.

    American Evangelicons better hope their candidate, Rudy, doesn’t win. He’ll just sell their souls to the Pope for absolution. He Sins, They pay.

    I almost wish it could happen, though, I would have to find a new country that respects human intellect.


  57. Xisithrus says:

    And please, Daryll, when you talk of war please differentiate between thw war on terror and the freedom operation. Thx


  58. jb says:

    The surge was supposed to allow political progress by September. It is now well into November. Another stalling tactic by Bushco to keep the gravy train running from the US treasury to military industrial complex. Sounds like Daryl is riding the train or perhaps pulling the train. Over a million innocent Iraqi men, women and children are now experiencing the ultimate freedom: Death. Daryl is so proud.


  59. Zooey says:

    I almost wish it could happen, though, I would have to find a new country that respects human intellect.
    Comment by pete — November 11, 2007 @ 7:12 pm

    You’ll have a lot of us following you out of the country.
    Neo-Illegal Aliens — American Version


  60. Xisithrus says:

    Let me just say this Daryll if you think that you are being Gods helper by fomenting war for the return of jesus and your salvation, Think again.

    DO NOT HELP FOMENT WAR.


  61. katy says:

    pete @ 6:53 pm – thank you for that… i will read it shortly…
    now i have to clean up from family work day…


  62. Zooey says:

    Comment by Daryll — November 11, 2007 @ 7:14 pm

    Daryll = A weenie with something to prove. :-D

    The Flying Spaghetti Monster is not pleased!!


  63. dixie blood says:

    Jesus’ will shall prevail.

    Comment by Daryll — November 11, 2007 @ 7:14 pm

    More evidence that the stupid are EXTRA religious!!!

    (sing along)

    Jebus loves me this I know
    Because I’m stupid, so I know
    He loves RePugniScums this I know
    Because I’m stupid, so I know


  64. Xisithrus says:

    Jesus said that no weapon formed against us (especially the soldiers) shall prosper. Liberals and Democrats, you are that weapon -Daryll

    GOD is not a Republican nor a Democrat.Stop putting GOD after mankinds political ideology!


  65. katy says:

    thanks dixie – that’s what i figured…
    just wanted to be sure…
    .


  66. Nat says:

    Upside99, so you are basically stating that you support the over-throw of our government as well as other Western Nations?
    Comment by Daryll — November 11, 2007 @ 6:52 pm

    If the Bush Crime Syndicate is not out of the White House by January 20, 2009 then I guess we’ll have to overthrow them.


  67. Xisithrus says:

    The Flying Spaghetti Monster is not pleased!!

    Comment by Zooey — November 11, 2007 @ 7:17 pm

    Actually thats Karma =)


  68. dixie blood says:

    GOD is not a Republican nor a Democrat.Stop putting GOD after mankinds political ideology!

    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 7:18 pm

    I think God doesn’t exist and I wish the same for Daryll and his other brother Daryll!!!


  69. jb says:

    I guess it’s good to read the bible, but to comprehend what you are reading, Daryl, is the object.


  70. ralph the wonder llama says:

    I support our nation in a different manner (DoD Contractor).

    Comment by Daryll — November 11, 2007 @ 6:48 pm

    Thanks for your “sacrifice”, Daryll.

    Oh wait — you’re not sacrifing. You’re profiting.


  71. Xisithrus says:

    I think God doesn’t exist and I wish the same for Daryll and his other brother Daryll!!! Comment by dixie blood

    Do you believe you have a soul?


  72. dixie blood says:

    Do you believe you have a soul?

    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 7:22 pm

    No I have a conscience which is must more useful!!!


  73. pete says:

    I think God doesn’t exist and I wish the same for Daryll and his other brother Daryll!!!

    Comment by dixie blood — November 11, 2007 @ 7:21 pm

    And all their other brothers Darylls. Alas, it may require physical force.


  74. jb says:

    Daryl, how much did you get when you sold your soul?


  75. dixie blood says:

    If I had a soul I would be fighting for only myself!!!


  76. jb says:

    Daryl, did you sell your conscience too or were you born without one?


  77. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Jesus’ will shall prevail.

    Comment by Daryll — November 11, 2007 @ 7:14 pm

    Just more evidnce that Daryll is either a fake or a theological moron.

    Jesus was the Son, the messenger. It’s GOD’s will that Christians respect.

    The words of Jesus (presumably) and the WILL of GOD.

    Of course, that distinction might be too finely drawn for one of such Manichean sensibilities as Daryll.


  78. Xisithrus says:

    If I had a soul I would be fighting for only myself!!!

    Comment by dixie blood

    But you are fighting for many, other souls, yes?


  79. dixie blood says:

    Daryl, did you sell your conscience too or were you born without one?

    Comment by jb — November 11, 2007 @ 7:26 pm

    Hold on one minute here. Who sold their conscience here? ‘Cause I’m buying!!! Whadda I miss?


  80. Zooey says:

    Actually thats Karma =)
    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 7:21 pm

    It’s all karma, my friend. :-)


  81. Xisithrus says:

    Daryll, by your own belief God created all of mankind, and now you call them weapons? How so is this? You are calling your brothers and sisters weapons formed against you?


  82. Xisithrus says:

    It’s all karma, my friend. :-)

    Comment by Zooey — November 11, 2007 @ 7:29 pm

    Thats why I like you so much Zooey, you have great insight. Names are just that.


  83. dixie blood says:

    But you are fighting for many, other souls, yes?

    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 7:27 pm

    No, we can’t discuss souls until survival is assured!!! And even then we have to climb through philosophy and religious/supertition free thinking to get to the definitions of a “soul,” whatever that might turn out to be.

    I LOVE SOUL MUSIC!!!


  84. Xisithrus says:

    Call it Karma, Callit God, call it the flux and the flow of the aether, call it energy, call it atoms, call it what you wish it. We are all creatures of energy and so what shoule we call that energy? X or Chi, the life force.


  85. Xisithrus says:

    Comment by dixie blood — November 11, 2007 @ 7:33 pm

    You need only look at the energy that course thru you at this time, without it we would be immovable rocks.


  86. jb says:

    Soul or conscience. It doesn’t take much of either to know that killing a million people for imaginary WMD, or oil, or phony Freedom on the March slogan, or showing off shock and awe or WORLD DOMINATION, is just plain wrong.


  87. Zooey says:

    Thats why I like you so much Zooey, you have great insight. Names are just that.
    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 7:32 pm

    We are all creatures of energy and so what shoule we call that energy? X or Chi, the life force.
    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 7:34 pm

    Thank you, my friend. :-) I like to call it life.


  88. pete says:

    I think that existential discussion, among sapient beings, frightens the Darytroll. Especially when scary, Pagan, words like Karma and conscience (you can’t spell conscience without science!) are introduced.


  89. Xisithrus says:

    Thank you, my friend. :-) I like to call it life.

    Comment by Zooey

    Life it is!


  90. dixie blood says:

    Call it Karma, Callit God, call it the flux and the flow of the aether, call it energy, call it atoms, call it what you wish it. We are all creatures of energy and so what shoule we call that energy? X or Chi, the life force.

    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 7:34 pm

    Call it what it is “Grasshopper”. The luck of the gene pool and too much time on your hands!!! Get a job already! And not as a preacher, that don’t count!!!


  91. Xisithrus says:

    Science used to be called magic, or heretics.

    What then is magic? Methods unlearned.


  92. jb says:

    And not as a preacher, that don’t count!!!

    Comment by dixie blood — November 11, 2007 @ 7:39 pm

    But, but, but, I’d only have work one day a week.


  93. Xisithrus says:

    Call it what it is “Grasshopper”. The luck of the gene pool and too much time on your hands!!! Get a job already! And not as a preacher, that don’t count!!! Comment by dixie blood — November 11, 2007 @ 7:39 pm

    I dont preach to people, but surely you recognize that energy makes your heart beat and your mind think? And that energy, such as the magnetic field around earth makes this a living planet?


  94. dixie blood says:

    You need only look at the energy that course thru you at this time, without it we would be immovable rocks.

    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 7:35 pm

    As a mushroom I must disagree! I have more energy than rocks myself and I live on sh|t in the dark. Not much energy here but I FEEL ALIVE!!!


  95. pete says:

    But, but, but, I’d only have work one day a week.

    Comment by jb — November 11, 2007 @ 7:40 pm

    And you would only have to read one book to learn EVERYTHING! Hey! I’m going to a Bible “College”. sarc off


  96. jb says:

    A fungus among us. The ultimate recycler. Thanks. I myself am a scavenger.


  97. Xisithrus says:

    Comment by dixie blood — November 11, 2007 @ 7:39 pm

    Actually I dont believe in ‘time’ in the normal sense. As for jobs, lol, I have done more work than you would ever know.


  98. dixie blood says:

    Hey! I’m going to a Bible “College”. sarc off

    Comment by pete — November 11, 2007 @ 7:43 pm

    I went to Bible College and they sent me back to the third grade!!


  99. Zooey says:

    Get a job already! And not as a preacher, that don’t count!!! Comment by dixie blood — November 11, 2007 @ 7:39 pm

    Wow. That’s insulting.


  100. Xisithrus says:

    As a mushroom I must disagree! I have more energy than rocks myself and I live on sh|t in the dark. Not much energy here but I FEEL ALIVE!!!Comment by dixie blood

    You diagree that you exist in a giant dynamo? What so then created our magnetic field about this earth?


  101. jb says:

    There are jobs and then there is the real work.


  102. Xisithrus says:

    What Dixie Blood causes you to think? Atoms?


  103. dixie blood says:

    Actually I dont believe in ‘time’ in the normal sense. As for jobs, lol, I have done more work than you would ever know.

    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 7:46 pm

    Now, there you go, attacking me and my work ethic!!

    Well, if you grew up on a dirt farm without slave labor available you might have worked a little harder than me, I’m not that big your know, otherwise not so much!!


  104. dixie blood says:

    What Dixie Blood causes you to think? Atoms?

    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 7:50 pm

    The question is stupid and contrast oranges and apples. However, I will indulge your idiocy.

    I am able to think because I am free of supertitious, fearfull thoughts imposed by religious boogey men.


  105. Xisithrus says:

    Now, there you go, attacking me and my work ethic!! -DB

    I did no such a thing, I said I have done more work than you could or would know which has nothing to do with your work habits.

    Personally, I think your a good person DB, and what we disagree on is by what we call things. I feel we are speaking of the same things with different names =)


  106. Xisithrus says:

    I am able to think because I am free of supertitious, fearfull thoughts imposed by religious boogey men.

    Comment by dixie blood — November 11, 2007

    I have never, on this forum, spoken of boogie men, I have spoken of energy.


  107. Xisithrus says:

    If you choose to call that energy Karma, or God, or Satan, or Life, or whatever, fine, please dont accuse me of cowering to superstition, as thats your projection and not what, or how, I think.


  108. dixie blood says:

    I said I have done more work than you could or would know

    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 7:57 pm

    Based on what a$$wipe? Got facts???


  109. Xisithrus says:

    Based on what a$$wipe? Got facts???

    Comment by dixie blood

    The fact is you dont know me DB and when I describe what work I have done is not a belittlement against you. You dont know what I have done. Its that simple.


  110. dixie blood says:

    If you choose to call that energy Karma, or God, or Satan, or Life, or whatever, fine, please dont accuse me of cowering to superstition, as thats your projection and not what, or how, I think.

    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 8:00 pm

    I “choose to call that energy” superstition. You choose to put a god name on your superstitions!!! OK,here you go, I believe in the God of Checkers. Yes, I said it!!! Phu(ck Backgammon!! Will I be struck dead?


  111. katy says:

    what a strange turn this thread took…

    hey, remember this:

    “A recent CBS News poll showed 83 percent of African-American respondents said the Iraq invasion was a mistake. In addition, the president’s approval rating has hit rock-bottom with black voters at about 9 percent…”

    that last part is of particular interest…
    good news for dems?
    which?
    .


  112. dixie blood says:

    The fact is you dont know me DB and when I describe what work I have done is not a belittlement against you. You dont know what I have done. Its that simple.

    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 8:03 pm

    I didn’t claim to out work me you did stupid!!~!


  113. Xisithrus says:

    I “choose to call that energy” superstition. -DB

    Karma superstition whatever. Your still only describing, redescribing energy


  114. Zooey says:

    Comment by dixie blood — November 11, 2007 @ 8:06 pm

    Xisithrus is not a troll.

    Maybe you could stop acting like one, dixie.


  115. dixie blood says:

    You dont know what I have done. Its that simple.

    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 8:03 pm

    Back at cha moron!!


  116. Xisithrus says:

    I didn’t claim to out work me you did stupid!!~!

    Comment by dixie blood

    No, I typed this.
    I said I have done more work than you could or would know
    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 7:57 pm

    You inferred I did more WORK than you, but the sentence doesn’t reflect that. Its says I did more WORK than YOU know. Not that I did more work than you =)


  117. Xisithrus says:

    Back at cha moron!!
    Comment by dixie blood

    Naw, you have accused me of being stupid, moronic, superstitious, of prosletyzing..nice try [notice I dont devolve into name calling]


  118. dixie blood says:

    Maybe you could stop acting like one, dixie.

    Comment by Zooey — November 11, 2007 @ 8:11 pm

    Which God or whiff in the air should I subscribe to here? Xisithrus is annoying. Look at the endless questions about soul, etc. Jebus, give it a rest. What did I do to Xisithrus to deserve this? He ask me questions and answered each with manners. Then he stopped liking my answers and started to attack my work ethic, without facts. This a$$wipe started in with me!! Now, you want me to back down or something? WTF?

    Go back and read every post and get back to me.


  119. had enough says:

    Black military enlistment drops
    Could it be the black folks are not war mongers as compared to some racist white folks?
    Ray Taliaferro will have fun with this topic when he comes on at 1am pst http://www.kgoam810.com/


  120. Zooey says:

    Go back and read every post and get back to me.
    Comment by dixie blood — November 11, 2007 @ 8:18 pm

    You are assuming I haven’t been following the “discussion.”

    Xisithrus has every right to ask anyone questions, you are free to ignore them.


  121. Xisithrus says:

    Maybe you could stop acting like one, dixie.
    Comment by Zoo

    Its OK Zoo. Thx.


  122. impeachy keen says:

    That 9% figure seems astronomically high! I personally have met 0.00 black people who support Bush. I’ve seen maybe two of these rare individuals on television (not counting Condi, Clarence Tom-ass or Alan Keyes), and one would hope that they’ve since changed their minds, since this was over a year ago.

    I don’t see how any black person could watch the news coverage of Hurricane Katrina and feel patriotic or fail to empathize with people in Iraq who also have no clean water or electricity, and who are also told that all the armed men are aiming those guns at them for their own “security.”


  123. Xisithrus says:

    Go back and read every post and get back to me.
    Comment by dixie blood

    Why? I know what I typed. You accused me of things and I accused you of none.


  124. dixie blood says:

    Naw, you have accused me of being stupid, moronic, superstitious, of prosletyzing..nice try [notice I dont devolve into name calling]

    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 8:17 pm

    No you did not resort to name calling! I did! You resorted to questioning my work experience, ethic, etc. way before my name calling so stop trying to be the victim here!!! Whaaaahhhaaa!!! WWhhhahahahhaaa..Now you wanna be a harder worker than me and crybaby too? That’s phucking phunny! How can you be a big cry baby and out work me too???


  125. Zooey says:

    Its OK Zoo. Thx.
    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 8:22 pm

    Ok, Zep.


  126. Xisithrus says:

    I did not question your work ethic DB.

    I asked if you had a soul. Nor did I say I was a harder worker but that you didn’t know MY work experience. And I have not cried about anything. Its not in my nature to do so So lets start again.

    Do you have a soul?


  127. Buckie Boy says:

    I am going to my “closet” to “flog myself “then read “parts of the” bible “that I support my sick views of the world”

    Comment by Gayrll

    Just thought I would clear that up for him,

    Buck Fush


  128. dixie blood says:

    Your attempt to be the victim here is complete BULLSH|T!! I’ve spent the entire evening defending free thinkers against the superstitions of those who believe in a “soul” or God name or some sh|t and now you think you’re the victim?

    As anyone with a brain knows here you don’t engage me unless you are ready to complete the battle. Why did you rattle my cage to begin with moron??? You started this sh|t!!! Did you really need to ask me about my soul today?? WTF??? I don’t care about you or your soul. Why couldn’t you show the same respect and ignore me? You had to mouth off didn’t you?


  129. bilbobaggins says:

    Don’t those who support the President believe enough in the better good they preach to sacrifice their time, their limbs or their lives to defeat their enemy.
    Comment by Saint Augustine

    No.


  130. Xisithrus says:

    Why did you rattle my cage to begin with moron??? You started this sh|t!!!

    What battle? Seems to me the battle your having is internal,having nothing, really, to do with me.

    The question is straighforward, a yes or no would suffice.


  131. dixie blood says:

    Do you have a soul?

    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 8:36 pm

    No, I have a conscience which is much more useful.


  132. Xisithrus says:

    Your attempt to be the victim here is complete BULLSH|T!! I’ve spent the entire evening defending free thinkers against the superstitions of those who believe in a “soul” or God name or some sh|t and now you think you’re the victim? -DB

    You misinterpret what I said. As electrons flow thru a wire an Electro magnetic field is created, and you as a human, have electrons that flow thru your nervous system. YOU are an electromagnetic being, that is not superstition. Its Physics and its the reality of your existence.


  133. dixie blood says:

    What battle? Seems to me the battle your having is internal,having nothing, really, to do with me.

    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 8:41 pm

    You started in with me by asking if I have a soul in a post here earlier in the day. Before then I didn’t know or give 2 shi|ts ’bout you!! Get it?? As I answered your questions along the way you suddenly questioned my work ethic or life expericene or something. At that point I DECIDED TO DEFEND MYSELF. Why are you in my life today? I never posted anything toward you. WTF?


  134. katy says:

    dixie blood… i have to ask… you don’t have to answer…
    are you a man or a woman?
    i am very curious… hate to even guess…


  135. dixie blood says:

    You misinterpret what I said. As electrons flow thru a wire an Electro magnetic field is created, and you as a human, have electrons that flow thru your nervous system. YOU are an electromagnetic being, that is not superstition. Its Physics and its the reality of your existence.

    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 8:44 pm

    What’s that have to do with asking me if I have a soul? I didn’t misinterpret sh|t!

    You ask, “Do you have a soul?”

    I said “No…”

    Now you start talking about “Electro magnetic[sic] field[s]“?? You are a kook!!!

    Now, you wanna buy some magic marbles???


  136. bilbobaggins says:

    Go back and read every post and get back to me.
    Comment by dixie blood

    Xisithrus told Zooey he liked her so she is defending him. I too believe that Xisithrus is being very annoying towards you Dixie. Why don’t you just ignore him?


  137. bilbobaggins says:

    Xisithrus has every right to ask anyone questions, you are free to ignore them.
    Comment by Zooey

    And you are free to butt out. Why is it you choose to take sides Zooey? Is all it takes for someone to tell you they like you for you to defend them when they are being an annoying jerk?


  138. katy says:

    uh oh…
    fyi – xisithrus, aka zep tepi, and zooey go way back…


  139. had enough says:

    Zooey, I will agree that there has been a gradual annual increase in military casualties, but you must admit that once the surge was umplemented, military casualty statistics decreased compared to the earlier and mid part of 2007.

    Comment by Daryll

    Such crap and a desperate grab for straws to right the wrongs…
    Nothing is working or can be justified in this illegal invasion massacre we caused.


  140. Xisithrus says:

    What is the problem here? Do people really think that without bodily energy they could exist?

    What the do you call that energy Bilbo?


  141. dixie blood says:

    dixie blood… i have to ask… you don’t have to answer…
    are you a man or a woman?
    i am very curious… hate to even guess…
    …

    Comment by katy — November 11, 2007 @ 8:53 pm

    I am everything to everyone. I love humanity, people suck!! What sex is the virgin born Jesus? Did Jesus have all the XY sh|t inline without a human father? Does sex matter? If so, please provide details below.

    If it helps I’m a decrepit old white racist a$$hole with an old AppleII and a telnet connection to the “series of tubes.” Happy ASCII!!


  142. bilbobaggins says:

    What the do you call that energy Bilbo?
    Comment by Xisithrus

    Sorry, you aren’t going to drag me into this. I’m with DB. I have no idea if I have a soul, but I do know I have a conscience. And the only God I believe in is my own personal God. I am a god unto myself and I and only I determine my destiny.

    Now, please don’t respond to this because I have no need to get into a psychic, philosophical discussion with you.


  143. katy says:

    dixie blood – i’m only curious… it really doesn’t matter…
    just wanted to know if my instinct is correct…
    i detect the passions of a woman…
    but the language, at times, of a sailor man!
    just curious… not to judge, as i have a foul mouth also…


  144. dixie blood says:

    Comment by bilbobaggins — November 11, 2007 @ 8:57 pm

    I got sucked in with the question “Do you have a soul?” and I said “No, I have a conscience which is more useful” and the landslide began.” Sh|t, had I known I would have said “I have 6; no more for me please. Thanks anyway!”


  145. Xisithrus says:

    Nobody sucked you in Dixie Blood, a conscience is the same as a soul.


  146. Zooey says:

    And you are free to butt out. Why is it you choose to take sides Zooey? Is all it takes for someone to tell you they like you for you to defend them when they are being an annoying jerk?
    Comment by bilbobaggins — November 11, 2007 @ 8:57 pm

    Excuse the f_ck out of me, but Zep and I have been acquainted for at least two years.

    Why don’t you go back to dictating to people that they should ignore trolls — while failing to do so yourself?

    God, you are a know-it-all pompous ass.


  147. Xisithrus says:

    You simply call a soul conscience. That was the point of this exercise.

    What you call blue, I say is Red. What you say is conscience I say is electrical waves…


  148. dixie blood says:

    dixie blood – i’m only curious… it really doesn’t matter…
    just wanted to know if my instinct is correct…
    i detect the passions of a woman…
    but the language, at times, of a sailor man!
    just curious… not to judge, as i have a foul mouth also…
    …

    Comment by katy — November 11, 2007 @ 9:11 pm

    One of my best friends sailed a small boat from the south Pacific back to the USA by herself after being divorced in a south Pacific country by a scumbag husband and abandoned.

    You know girls who attend “mandatory college” also have a rich language feature.

    Maybe you need to ramp it up Katy?


  149. Xisithrus says:

    All that exists are atoms and empty space Dixie Blood, the rest is just opinion -Democritus of Abdera.

    And you, DB are made of Atoms or Adams…=)


  150. dixie blood says:

    What you call blue, I say is Red. What you say is conscience I say is electrical waves…

    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 9:16 pm

    Ok, Xisithrus! I have eletromanegtic activity somewhere in my being. Are You Happy NOW?


  151. Xisithrus says:

    So, Dixie Bood, then lets us talk of quantum particles, muons, gluons, up quarks, down quarks, spin and all that good stuff.


  152. Xisithrus says:

    Comment by dixie blood — November 11, 2007

    Am I happy for your life form? Of course, I respect all life. =) even after the names you called me, which, really, dont mean anything.

    You take care now DB, your a good thinker, and a good person.


  153. dixie blood says:

    I like spin!! Well, not the RePugniScum kind…


  154. Xisithrus says:

    I have many great friends of scalar proportions Dixie and I consider you one of them. Goodnite DB.


  155. katy says:

    You know girls who attend “mandatory college” also have a rich language feature.
    Maybe you need to ramp it up Katy?
    Comment by dixie blood — November 11, 2007 @ 9:18 pm

    i don’t get it… maybe because i’ve never attended college,
    mandatory or otherwise…
    ramp WHAT up?

    good on your best friend! what an amazing awesome scary journey
    that must’ve been… impressive woman!


  156. dixie blood says:

    So, Dixie Bood, then lets us talk of quantum particles, muons, gluons, up quarks, down quarks, spin and all that good stuff.

    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 9:21 pm

    This is rich! How do you relate your original question “Do you have a soul?” to quantum physics? I can tolerate the impossible for only so long.


  157. had enough says:

    Excuse the f_ck out of me, but Zep and I have been acquainted for at least two years.

    Why don’t you go back to dictating to people that they should ignore trolls — while failing to do so yourself?

    God, you are a know-it-all pompous ass.

    Comment by Zooey

    Zooey… chill.


  158. Zooey says:

    Zooey… chill.
    Comment by had enough — November 11, 2007 @ 9:30 pm

    I’m chillin’. :-)

    I just don’t appreciate bilbo’s hypocritical and patronizing attitude.


  159. had enough says:

    We are starting to resemble the republicans….eating our own.


  160. dixie blood says:

    i don’t get it… maybe because i’ve never attended college,
    mandatory or otherwise…
    ramp WHAT up?

    good on your best friend! what an amazing awesome scary journey
    that must’ve been… impressive woman!
    …

    Comment by katy — November 11, 2007 @ 9:29 pm

    Education does not matter. A life of learning does. I meant nothing by “ramp it up” except to illicit more outrage and cursing in the world.

    Yes, my friend is massively impressive. She raised a boy alone who is attending University now under full scholarship.


  161. katy says:

    bilbobaggins’ remark to zooey was rather unbelievable…
    out of character for a bilbobaggins… but maybe not…

    just sayin’…


  162. Zooey says:

    We are starting to resemble the republicans….eating our own.
    Comment by had enough — November 11, 2007 @ 9:36 pm

    Sorry, but bilbo had no reason to make a personal attack on me.

    Maybe TP has changed more than I thought.


  163. katy says:

    another reason i ask, dixie blood, is because i want to call you just “dixie”, as i have an old friend, dixie, a woman…
    and i don’t want to offend, if you are a man…
    but i think you are another strong woman, such as YOUR friend…
    i know that you crack me up at times… goodly…

    g’nite all…
    time to unfold and kick back…


  164. pete says:

    Wow, I leave for awhile and… wow. Are we sure there isn’t a name-jacking, or demonic possession, going on? If not, we’re gonna get a bunch of, extra, crap from the trolls when they stumble on this one.

    Just sayin’.


  165. Xisithrus says:

    This is rich! How do you relate your original question “Do you have a soul?” to quantum physics? I can tolerate the impossible for only so long.

    Comment by dixie blood — November 11, 2007 @ 9:29 pm

    Cant you see the paralells thruout history and time to explain our existence? First you attack me for being superstitious and now you attack me for being knowledgeable in physics? Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge what you are made of?


  166. Xisithrus says:

    Well to be fair, you didn’t know the difference between having a conscience and having a soul – and the concept of a soul is superstitious -rhf

    Its all waves my friend, ALL WAVES


  167. Xisithrus says:

    Religion tends to have that effect on people, it’s a pretty destructive force for the most part.

    Comment by republicans hate facts — November 11, 2007

    No, its not religion, its those who seek monetary gains that USE religion as a means to war!!


  168. dixie blood says:

    Comment by katy — November 11, 2007 @ 9:52 pm

    Sorry katy, I don’t have or won’t friends. I have goals and targets. And I hate much of what I see happening around me! My ONLY FRIEND is DEMOCRACY. Once that’s gone I am and y’all are DEAD!!!


  169. Xisithrus says:

    Sorry katy, I don’t have or won’t friends

    Hello Mr P.


  170. pete says:

  171. katy says:

    no way, zep… dixie blood is none other than dixie blood…
    definetely not the mr.p…

    i’m gone now…
    see yas.


  172. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 9:53 pm

    Well to be fair, you didn’t know the difference between having a conscience and having a soul – and the concept of a soul is superstitious. Why? Because unless you can scientifically prove it to be in existence, it’s superstition (that’s the definition).

    Comment by republicans hate facts — November 11, 2007 @ 9:55 pm

    I’m a little unsure about the wisdom of jumping in here, but I don’t think it’s fair to say that Xisithrus “doesn’t know the difference between” a consecience and a soul. I think the point he was making was that, in his view, what DB calls a conscience may in fact be close to Xisithrus’s concept of soul.

    To extrapolate from that judgment to an inability to tell the difference I think is a stretch, especially if you’re going to base a further argument on that assumption.


  173. Xisithrus says:

    no way, zep… dixie blood is none other than dixie blood…
    definetely not the mr.p…

    i’m gone now…
    see yas.

    Comment by katy — November 11, 2007 @ 10:11 pm

    I understand what you say.


  174. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Religion tends to have that effect on people, it’s a pretty destructive force for the most part.

    Comment by republicans hate facts — November 11, 2007

    No, its not religion, its those who seek monetary gains that USE religion as a means to war!!

    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 9:59 pm

    Here I’m going to have to stand by RHF — it IS religion. It’s also those who misuse it for material gain, but religion itself is a means for people to identify themselves, and as such is a very emotional subject — not a rational one for most people. When those who cling to a denomination identity are also told that their’s is the Only True Way, it’s not a great leap to a justification for War.


  175. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    I think it’s time to switch to decaf, folks.


  176. dixie blood says:

    No, its not religion, its those who seek monetary gains that USE religion as a means to war!!

    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 9:59 pm

    How shall we know the difference if we all claim to be religious. I’m more religious/god fearing than you? Bullshit!!!! Who is the USER here and who decides?

    Xisithrus, you are a religious moron!! What are you using religion for and why do you which to quantum physics when you can’t answer the tough religious questions posed perviously.

    I’ve made up my mind. Xisithrus is a mental midget who has just enough grasp of languge to start a useless debate. Soul vs. Quantum physics?? Give me a phc(king break.

    This is sincere!! Xisithrus phu(k you~~~!!! You are a waste of time and carbon!!


  177. dixie blood says:

    No, its not religion, its those who seek monetary gains that USE religion as a means to war!!

    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 9:59 pm

    How shall we know the difference if we all claim to be religious. I’m more religious/god fearing than you? Bullshit!!!! Who is the USER here and who decides?

    Xisithrus, you are a religious moron!! What are you using religion for and why do you which to quantum physics when you can’t answer the tough religious questions posed previously.

    I’ve made up my mind. Xisithrus is a mental midget who has just enough grasp of languge to start a useless debate.

    Soul vs. Quantum physics??

    Give me a phc(king break.

    This is sincere!! Xisithrus phu(k you~~~!!! You are a waste of time and carbon!!


  178. dixie blood says:

    Sorry for the double post, TP farted…


  179. Xisithrus says:

    Okay, DB, lets suppose that religion never existed.

    Do you really think that the military industrial complex would cease to exist?


  180. Xisithrus says:

    Sorry for the double post, TP farted…

    Comment by dixie blood

    Hello again Mr P


  181. dixie blood says:

    Okay, DB, lets suppose that religion never existed.

    Do you really think that the military industrial complex would cease to exist?

    Comment by Xisithrus — November 11, 2007 @ 10:25 pm

    Yes! But, who would create the quarks and spins? The military or Buddah? And what’s the difference between oranges, true or false?

    You are a “mental” midget!!!


  182. pete says:

    Well ralph, I have a slightly different take. It depends on whether the religion, or denomination, is aggressive or passive. Aggressive religions which seek to hold, or subvert, secular authority are dangerous as heck. Passive religions (philosophies if you prefer) like Zen Buddhism tend to exist within an accepting, secular, framework. They tend to be harmless if not beneficial.

    When a government claims authority from an Infallible Creator? It’s disastrous for someone and, ultimately, for everyone involved.


  183. pete says:

    We kill what we fear and we fear what we can not understand. That’s the basics.


  184. foreyes says:

    Daryll’s nailing himself on the cross again…

    **yawn**

    Comment by Zooey — November 11, 2007 @ 6:08 pm
    —————

    Nailing himself on the cross again? Please, explain!


  185. Xisithrus says:

    Comment by republicans hate facts — November 11, 2007 @ 11:09 pm
    Reverse.


  186. Xisithrus says:

    Yes I understand that your comment is the reverse of reality, and that you don’t…

    Comment by republicans hate facts

    Yeh your right.


  187. bilbobaggins says:

    I just don’t appreciate bilbo’s hypocritical and patronizing attitude.
    Comment by Zooey

    You don’t find your attitude towards dixie blood patronizing? Perhaps you should look in the mirror Zooey. And as far as my telling people to stop feeding the trolls, I gave that up a long time ago as a lost cause. And I do participate occasionally just to join in on a game of whack a troll. If you can’t beat them, join them.

    And I agree, chill Zooey.


  188. bilbobaggins says:

    Sorry, but bilbo had no reason to make a personal attack on me.
    Maybe TP has changed more than I thought.
    Comment by Zooey

    Zooey telling dixie blood to stop acting like a troll is not a personal attack but my telling Zooey to butt out is a personal attack.

    Go figure.


  189. sisyphus says:

    Just out of curiosity, how many whites are not enlisting under GWB, compared to how many whites were enlisting before GWB?
    Why isn’t that a headline?


  190. The Shadow says:

    As usual Daryl has made an azz out of himself by repeating the bull that the rightwing spreads like so much cow shlt. Look Daryl if you can’t think for yourself, then remember the quote: “A mind is a terrible thing to waste”. Wake up and stop smell Dubya’s shorts, if you look at the death toll among our troops it’s gone up not down. Explain how if more troop die than in any year of the war so far, that’s progress? You ignorant statements show you don’t support the troops at all, because if you did, you wouldn’t want them to die.

    Believe me Daryl as a veteran I know what it’s like to lose my friends in combat. I went to the VA Hospital last year for treatment, and met a Iraq war vet with no legs. He was in the VA Support office complaining about not receiving benefit for disability. It made me so mad I couldn’t stand to watch him beg for something he more than deserves. If you really want to do something, then get off your butt and go the the VA Hospital and you’ll see the same thing I did. Neglect, denial, and a ungreatful government, which uses our troops and then throws them away like trash.

    Don’t take my word for it, go and see for yourself. But don’t just look at the surface, check with the wounded troops. Ask them if they are getting the benefits them so much deserve. You will soon stop singing stupid republican tune you’re so fund of.


  191. YouCantHandleDaTruth says:

    This war is immoral started by an immoral person, blacks can see this clearly because of Bush antagonistic attitude towards us.


  192. pete says:

    Of course, overall enlistment is shrinking as well. Also, the number of enlistees being granted “deferments” for medical, legal and moral issues is growing. Some “experts” are predicting that the number of “special cases” will amount to, as much as, 25% of all new recruits. Perhaps the militariy’s new recruiting slogan should be:

    “The Few, The Proud, The Unemployable”

    The bottom line is that U.S. military forces are shrinking in numbers of “combat ready” troops, in overall capability, in readiness to respond to emergencies and morale. This unwanted war is eviscerating our ability to secure national security.

    Thanx George.


  193. texaslady says:

    Yesterday on Sunday Morning show with Charles Osgood, great interview with several black Marines from now and other wars. ALL agreed Iraq is not the place to enlist for black young people.

    Remember the line, what if they held a war and nobody came? It is time for that to happen now. Let George get his nephews and nieces into his war.



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