Majority believe Bush has committed impeachable offenses.
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Majority believe Bush has committed impeachable offenses.
A new American Research Group poll finds that 55 percent of voters believe President Bush has “abused his powers” in a manner that rises “to the level of impeachable offenses under the Constitution,” yet just 34 percent believe he should actually be impeached. Fifty-two percent say that Vice President Cheney has similarly abused his powers, with 43 percent supporting impeachment.
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Does Congress know?
November 13th, 2007 at 7:18 pmWhy the discrepency? If he abused power at the level of impeachable offences, why shouldn’t he be impeached?
Sh!t or get off the pot!
November 13th, 2007 at 7:19 pmHa!!!!
November 13th, 2007 at 7:19 pmBush beats Bill Clinton in one area: more Americans think he shold be impeached.
November 13th, 2007 at 7:21 pmHa!!!!
Comment by John Kerry — November 13, 2007 @ 7:19 pm
What, you’re suddenly facing the reality that the majority of Americans know what criminals you republicans are, and that your evasiveness is about to screw you in 2008? Or are you just delusionally laughing to avoid facing the reality that the majority of Americans already know? That the GOP is the party of hypocrisy, corruption and criminality!
November 13th, 2007 at 7:21 pm55 percent of voters believe President Bush has “abused his powers†in a manner that rises “to the level of impeachable offenses under the Constitution,†yet just 34 percent believe he should actually be impeached. Fifty-two percent say that Vice President Cheney has similarly abused his powers, with 43 percent supporting impeachment.
- - And another little known American Research Group poll also found that 68% of the voters polled had no idea what impeachment meant.
November 13th, 2007 at 7:21 pmDoes Congress know?
Comment by StratRat — November 13, 2007 @ 7:18 pm
Yes, but the Republicans in Congress don’t care - and therefore any impeachment exercise is seen by the party leaders as a futile exercise. I’m not sure I agree with their stand, but I do understand where it comes from. They realization that the GOP officials are more concerned with party loyalty, than constitutional integrity and honesty. Ah, the irony, considering all of the whining the GOP did about Clinton soiling the good name of the whitehouse!!!!
November 13th, 2007 at 7:23 pmOr are you just delusionally laughing to avoid facing the reality that the majority of Americans already know? That the GOP is the party of hypocrisy, corruption and criminality!
Comment by republicans hate facts
People with mental issues always overcompensate for their lack of understanding with a smirk or giggle. It is textbook…
November 13th, 2007 at 7:23 pmthis is old hack
November 13th, 2007 at 7:23 pmDarth Cheney should definitely be impeached for abuse of power.
GDumbya, on the other hand, should just plain be fired for gross incompetence.
November 13th, 2007 at 7:23 pmIs Nancy PollLoser listening?
NO!!
Spineless, corporate suckup!!!! This girl needs a ride home now!!!
November 13th, 2007 at 7:24 pm#6 — or who the President of the United States was! But 68% did know what neato new fashion trend Paris Hilton will be sporting for the holiday season or who Britney Spears currently is banging.
November 13th, 2007 at 7:24 pmImpeach, try for war crimes, upon conviction, hang by the neck until . . . . . he[[ freezes over !!!
November 13th, 2007 at 7:25 pm#8: “People with mental issues always overcompensate for their lack of understanding with a smirk or giggle. It is textbook…”
November 13th, 2007 at 7:25 pm- - That reminds me, when is Bush’s next press conference?
Bob, Dems won’t impeach the president or the vice. Dems have a leadership (like “I-like-the-camera-Pelosi. and “please, butter my toast”, Reid) that are too afraid to rock the boat, especially when they’re in it.
November 13th, 2007 at 7:26 pmCWITMN?
Cheers,
November 13th, 2007 at 7:28 pmbushco is running out the clock, leaving it to the Democrats to clean up after the elephants.
November 13th, 2007 at 7:28 pmWhat percentage supported Nixon’s impeachment before the process started, or Clinton’s for that matter? Is there a critical mass? Since we no longer live in a democracy, it doesn’t matter what the majority wants anyway, right?
November 13th, 2007 at 7:29 pmAttention Halliburton and Blackwater Employees. Please prepare to waterboard 55% of America. Stat.
-Caligula Bush
November 13th, 2007 at 7:32 pmSince we no longer live in a democracy
Certainly doesn’t seem like it…
November 13th, 2007 at 7:32 pm#7 Republicans Hate Facts:
They realiz[e] that the GOP officials are more concerned with party loyalty, than constitutional integrity and honesty.
Actually, the GOP is just into hanging onto power by any means necessary. They know they’re in for a world of hurt once they lose “state secrets privilege”, “executive privilege”, and control of the DoJ and the filibuster power in the Senate. That’s the prime directive. From that comes the impetus to party loyalty (as well as to obvious hypocrisy and lying through their teeth).
Cheers,
November 13th, 2007 at 7:33 pmBob, in 1776 the majority favored the British.
November 13th, 2007 at 7:33 pm[…] that are too afraid to rock the boat, especially when they’re in it.
Comment by leftcoast — November 13, 2007 @ 7:26 pm
They are in it allright!! They are complete sell outs to the obscenely rich, facists, corporate barons that are running and ruining our once great Democracy!!!
These enemies of Democracy have taken over.
And how are you going to stop this sh|t???
November 13th, 2007 at 7:33 pmThe silly Bush cultist’s well-fashioned and thoughtful reply? “Ha!!!”
Land o’ goshen, you’ve got us there, gomer! Hell of an argument!
November 13th, 2007 at 7:35 pmAnd how are you going to stop this sh|t???
November 13th, 2007 at 7:36 pmdixie blood
Viva la revolucion!
#12 the interestingly monikered No More Bush:
But 68% did know what neato new fashion trend Paris Hilton will be sporting…
… or not sporting, as the case may be (cf. Brittney). ;-)
Sorry if I caused anyone to lose their lunch…
Cheers,
November 13th, 2007 at 7:37 pm“The Constitution is just a God-damn piece of paper! So what are you going to do about it?”-George W. Bush
November 13th, 2007 at 7:38 pmImpeachment is impossible. Any attempt is political theater.
What is possible? Elect a Dem to the Oval office and give Dems supermajorities in each house. Then, demand that they immediately investigate any number of actions these people have taken and indict them for federal crimes and war crimes. There is no statute of limitations on war crimes.
November 13th, 2007 at 7:41 pmAnd this is before a single hearing in Congress. I may have had to resume breathing after going past blue, but the Democratic Party is selling short the capacity of the American people to rise up and support what is actually critical if the USA wishes to resume it’s Constitutionally-limited Representative Democracy.
November 13th, 2007 at 7:43 pmit’s = its
November 13th, 2007 at 7:43 pmViva la revolucion!
Comment by leftcoast — November 13, 2007 @ 7:36 pm
Good answer!!! You and I are gonna git’a'long.
November 13th, 2007 at 7:46 pmComment by dixie blood — November 13, 2007 @ 7:46 pm
November 13th, 2007 at 7:49 pmI’m as Independent as I can try to be. I don’t want big money dynasties for America. And, Let’s find the right people. If they don’t have it after a couple of years throw their asses out.
The whole point of Impeachment is to get the criminal out of office and out of control. If Impeachment is impossible, can (or will) someone please make a citizen’s arrest? ;)
Viva la revolucion!
Si!
November 13th, 2007 at 7:50 pmWell, duh…when you are a WAR CRIMINAL who has done multiple crimes you need to be impeached, and why 55% believe his has done just that and yet 34% believe that he should be says alot about just how bad GW666 has done, people are so frustrated with him that they don’t know just what to do with him.
Buck Fush
November 13th, 2007 at 7:50 pmImpeachment is impossible. Any attempt is political theater.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — November 13, 2007 @ 7:41 pm
Col. Ripper,
I must repectfully disagree to a high degree.
The world is watching. This is, in my simplistic opinion, the BEST reason to just start the process!! It will send a sign to the world that there is hope; that someday we can correct this sh|t even if it’s not now.
We need to send a BIG A$$ SMOKE SIGNAL OUT NOW!!!!
THE WORLD IS WATCHING!!!!!
November 13th, 2007 at 7:52 pmIt would be much higer if there were if there were impeachmenet investigations.
The polls for Nixon were even lower - before investigations started. But after they started and the evidence was laid out, the American people were informed and they favored impeachment. So did Congress (both parties) and that led to Nixon’s resignation.
November 13th, 2007 at 7:53 pmChimpy and his cabal of sociopathic criminals have done more damage to this great nation than all of its enemies combined could ever have dreamt of doing. America will never fully recover…odds are it will never recover at all.
“Worst president ever†doesn’t even begin to cover it.
November 13th, 2007 at 7:54 pmIt would be much higer if there were if there were impeachmenet investigations.
The polls for Nixon were even lower - before investigations started. But after they started and the evidence was laid out, the American people were informed and they favored impeachment. So did Congress (both parties) and that led to Nixon’s resignation.
Comment by Dave de Give — November 13, 2007 @ 7:53 pm
Right on point!!
Don’t wait on Sen. Hairball Ried or Nancy PollLoser to get this done! They are going to help the RePugniScums phlush this Democracy down the drain!!!!
November 13th, 2007 at 7:58 pmDuh.
Now, how do we get this impeachment thing going?
Paging Nancy I’ve-got-my-head-buried-up-Bush’s-ass Pelosi. The people are talking. ARE YOU LISTENING OR ARE YOU GETTING ANOTHER FACE LIFT?
November 13th, 2007 at 8:07 pmI agree that the dems are doing nothing. Does anyone know why? After the 06 elections I was starting to feel upbeat…like something was going to be done. As of yet, nothing.
November 13th, 2007 at 8:26 pmtoday randi rhodes went through the list of projects on the
house schedule… she wondered what they had planned that
was making them “too busy” to deal with impeachment hearings…
not much of a list actually… pretty pathetic…
check out some of the other info on her site:
November 13th, 2007 at 8:31 pmhttp://www.therandirhodesshow.com/live/
why?
[…]
Wasserman Shultz: […] So we replace the Vice President, and then we go through a confirmation process in the House of Representatives of confirming the new Vice President, and we will squander the opportunity to move this country in a new direction when what we should be focusing on are those issues I just listed and many others, and focusing our efforts on expanding the Democratic majority and electing a Democratic President.
Schultz: That’s what it’s all about …
Wasserman Shultz: It is …
read more from that interview here:
http://www.dailykos.com/ storyonly/ 2007/ 11/ 8/ 141239/ 890
i’m sure there’s more elsewhere… it was quite the interview…
November 13th, 2007 at 8:38 pm…
We see now the GOP’s long game working itself out.
Nixon damn near got impeached. Reagan, and Bush I, should have been, after Iran Contra. That’s three straight GOP administrations. The party knew the next time that particular sword was drawn again, it would probably be against another GOP president — they have ‘rule of law’ issues, it would seem.
The target of the Clinton’ impeachment was impeachment, not Clinton.
By turning it into a salacious farce, the whole process was reduced to a joke, and that was the point. Actually getting Clinton convicted and removed would have been lagniappe.
The important thing was for the American people to have a profound skepticsm towards the whole impeachment process — and the poll shows that it worked.
November 13th, 2007 at 8:54 pmimpeach the twit and his sidekick now and get it over with.the sooner the better…..before he claims Martial law.
November 13th, 2007 at 9:14 pmLet’s not all get the vapors over this poll, folks. Kos has done its research well in shopping for their pollster. This is from the ARG site:
“Britt Beemer understands, probably better than anyone else in America today, how consumers think, why they think that way, and what obstacles must be overcome to generate a sale. Clients who follow Beemer’s research-based recommendations grow several times greater than their competitors, earning him a reputation as one of America’s leading business strategists.
“Predatory Marketing” teaches businesses
1.) How to avoid making the wrong decisions.
2.) How to develop a strategy that works from the beginning.
3.) How to make your customer notice your company.
Most extraordinary is Beemer’s central message that the fastest way to increase market share is to attack competitors at their strong points, not their weak ones. In short, if you want to win market share, you have to convince consumers that the major things your competitors do well you can do better.”
So - what stronger point can Bush have than the legitimacy of his office? ARG conducts a poll aimed at that strong point and voila! Kos wins market share among consumers - in this case voters - that the Dems are better at governance.
Look to see any and all affiliated with Kos from here on saying “a majority of Americans think Bush has commited impeachable offenses”. Look to see no one from Kos mention that less than half of these same Americans think Bush ACTUALLY SHOULD BE IMPEACHED. Explain that for me.
A silly thread on a silly poll. There Will Be NO Impeachment, you guys are spinning your wheels! Look at how the Dem leadership wanted to shunt Kucinich and 333 into the rubber room and it was the Repubs who kept it alive. Give it up and MoveOn.
November 13th, 2007 at 9:16 pmLet’s not all get the vapors over this poll, folks. Kos has done its research well in shopping for their pollster. This is from the ARG site:
A silly thread on a silly poll. There Will Be NO Impeachment, you guys are spinning your wheels! Look at how the Dem leadership wanted to shunt Kucinich and 333 into the rubber room and it was the Repubs who kept it alive. Give it up and MoveOn.
Comment by Keltoi at Night — November 13, 2007 @ 9:16 pm
Can’t attack the message, so attack the messenger. Typical wingnut stupidity from STUPID KELTOI!!!!
There’s NOTHING SILLY about this poll, unless you’re saying that the GOP COMMISSION polls about impeaching Clinton were also silly? STUPID HYPOCRITICAL LITTLE SLVT!!! YOU REALLY ARE STUPID!!!
Look to see no one from Kos mention that less than half of these same Americans think Bush ACTUALLY SHOULD BE IMPEACHED. Explain that for me. Comment by Keltoi at Night — November 13, 2007 @ 9:16 pm
Maybe because they know you WINGNUTS in Congress wouldn’t convict HITLER if he were your GOP President? Or because they saw what a waste of time and money the Clinton impeachment was - and you’ve successfully created IMPEACHMENT FATIGUE? Or maybe it’s because they prefer that congress bloody Bush’s nose on votes - something you WINGNUT GOP HACKS won’t do?
Sorry, but your CONFUSION is nothing but an expression of your STUPIDITY, not your insight, little girl!
November 13th, 2007 at 9:43 pmAnd these numbers are exactly the reason we need articles and hearings. Even if they aren’t convicted, the public will finally hear the facts about Bushco and then these numbers will go up–way up.
November 13th, 2007 at 10:09 pm“Majority believe Bush has committeed impeachable offenses.”
our children is learning!
November 13th, 2007 at 10:10 pmWhat is wrong with the sheeple in this country? Don’t they see the harm that is being caused by allowing our President to break the law with impunity? How can they think he has committed impeachable offenses and not think he should be impeached? The reason why impeachment was put into our constitution was to address the kind of abuses that Bush has perpetuated on this country.
November 13th, 2007 at 11:10 pmPeople with mental issues always overcompensate for their lack of understanding with a smirk or giggle. It is textbook…
Comment by StratRat
The scariest example of this was when Bush was talking about WWIII and Iran. While he was basically threatening to start WWIII, he was smirking and then he did his patented giggle. The pathology of the many is beyond comprehension.
November 13th, 2007 at 11:13 pmLet’s not all get the vapors over this poll,
So Keltoi, what are you going to have to say the day that Bush declares our constitution null and void, arrests the liberal Supreme Court justices, shuts down Congress and declares martial law?
November 13th, 2007 at 11:16 pmI have no delusions that a vote of impeachment will fail in the Senate. But, that’s OK. It’s the right thing to do. Bush/Cheney and the Republican Crime Syndicate have a clear record meets the “high crimes and misdemeanors” threshold. Taken as a whole, I think their collective actions indicate a willingness to destroy this country while profiting from their policies.
It will fail because the Republicans will vote as a block against it. That’s OK. The American people can hold them accountable (or not) when they are up for re-election.
But the impeachment trial accomplishes a few very important things-
(1) It tells the world that we do not accept the actions of this administration…that we do hold them accountable.
(2) It provides a warning for future wannabe dictators that they screw with the Constitution at their own personal risk.
The political calculus as to whether the impeachment will win or lose in the Senate is of secondary importance. The principal of holding Presidents accountable for their illegal actions is what’s at stake. If we accept this systematic criminality, we are providing future criminals with a precedent.
I am disappointed that the Democrats won’t persue this…but I also understand what they are up against. Our Republican owned mainstream press will frame this as a reckless and irresponsible act. 24-7. How will that impact on the voter’s thinking in 2008. I know I would welcome it, but I’m not sure Democrats could make their case to the public without distortion from the media.
Secondly, I wonder if there isn’t some serious fear that cornering Bush/Cheney in an impeachment trial might precipertate a scortched earth reaction? These guys, I’m convinced, are guilty of capital crimes. But they also have their hands on the nuclear trigger….if they are as nutz as I think they are, what would they have to lose in unleashing Doomsday scenario?
November 13th, 2007 at 11:48 pmSo Keltoi, what are you going to have to say the day that Bush declares our constitution null and void, arrests the liberal Supreme Court justices, shuts down Congress and declares martial law?
Comment by bilbobaggins — November 13, 2007 @ 11:16 pm
Well, my friend of a few months, I guess I’ll tap my response to you on the prison walls we share when it happens. Because at that point anyone who ever logged on to this site will be rounded up. And man, my personal vision of hell is being outnumbered 40 to 1 by you guys saying “We told you so!” While Daryll quotes the Bible in my defense. Shiver.
It would have to happen after Bush declared himself President for life. I happen to live in an area where that declaration would be met with insurgency; well armed, well informed, deeply conservative, Republican voters to a man.
But it isn’t going to happen. The ONLY way it ever could happen is if there were nuclear weapons used against the USA, delivered by terrorists. I fear that world more than anything else because then indeed the mask would come off. I am not a Reactionary, but I know damn well there are many of them in this country; there is a nascent Christo-Fascism waiting in the wings. I understand this. And the best way to forestall it is to defeat the enemy it throws up before us.
The problem is, a good part of the people reading this think Bush is completely capable of cooking off a nuke in the States to justify Dictatorship.
I am pretty damn cynical, but I am not that bad yet.
November 13th, 2007 at 11:50 pmWhat percentage meets the level at which congress will take action?
November 13th, 2007 at 11:50 pmWhy aren’t they listening to us?
What would be the peercentage who believe Bush/Cheney should be impeached if the mainstream media were actually acting as journalists and not propagandists? If the news media had actually investigated claims made by Bush&Co pre-war? If the media had actually challenged Bush? If they had actually performed their duty as the fourth estate.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:01 amAs poorly as I think of Bush/Cheney/Rumsfield/the whole neocon parade. All I can say is be careful. Impeach Cheney and Bush can pardon him. Impeach Bush and you could get President Cheney.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:34 amCrimes like this.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ elizabeth-holtzman/ beyond-mukaseys-confirma_b_72242.html
We now know the reason why Mr. Mukasey refused to acknowledge that waterboarding meets the legal definition of torture, or at the very least cruel, degrading and inhuman treatment clearly had nothing to do with not being briefed about the procedure. If he didn’t know at the time of the Senate committee hearing, he certainly learned afterwards that the US considered waterboarding criminal and prosecuted it for at least a century. The real reason, as to mainstream news analysts now acknowledge, was that publicly admitting waterboarding is torture or cruel and inhuman would have put the President in jeopardy of criminal charges.
The War Crimes Act of 1996 makes cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment of detainees a violation of the Geneva Conventions and a federal crime. In addition, a 1994 law, 18 USC Section 2340 (a), makes it a federal crime to engage in torture outside the US, it also applies to those who conspire with (or aid and abet or order) torture outside the US. Both statutes apply to any US national, including the President, the Vice President and other top officials, as well as subordinates, such as CIA officers or other US personnel. If the President ordered, directed or authorized waterboarding or other forms of torture or mistreatment, he may have violated these laws. They carry the death penalty in cases where victim dies. In such cases there is no statute of limitations, so the President could be subject to prosecution for the rest of his life.
In a February 2002 memo, then White House counsel Alberto Gonzales warned President Bush about exposure to criminal liability under the War Crimes Act, mentioning the danger that future independent counsels or prosecutors might seek to enforce the law (they generally prosecute top government officials, including presidents). He therefore recommended opting out of the Geneva Conventions, famously calling them “obsolete.” His theory was that if the Conventions didn’t apply, then the War Crimes Act wouldn’t apply, so no prosecutions could be brought. The President accepted Gonzales’ theory and suspended the Conventions ’s protections for suspected Al Qaeda detainees.
But in June 2006 the Supreme Court rejected this theory and held the Geneva Conventions applicable to the treatment of all detainees, leaving the President open to liability for violating the War Crimes Act. So in October 2006 the White House effectively pardoned itself by slipping a little-noticed provision into the Military Tribunals Act, conferring effective immunity from the War Crimes Act on high-level officials by making it retroactively inoperative, from 1996 to 2006. Public attention was focused on habeas corpus and other controversial provisions in the bill, so it passed more or less unscrutinized.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:25 amCan someone ask Nancy Pelosi why she is not acting President and george bush and dick cheney not facing the death penalty.
he War Crimes Act of 1996 makes cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment of detainees a violation of the Geneva Conventions and a federal crime. In addition, a 1994 law, 18 USC Section 2340 (a), makes it a federal crime to engage in torture outside the US, it also applies to those who conspire with (or aid and abet or order) torture outside the US. Both statutes apply to any US national, including the President, the Vice President and other top officials, as well as subordinates, such as CIA officers or other US personnel. If the President ordered, directed or authorized waterboarding or other forms of torture or mistreatment, he may have violated these laws. They carry the death penalty in cases where victim dies. In such cases there is no statute of limitations, so the President could be subject to prosecution for the rest of his life.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:27 am.
PRINCIPLES!
It’s all about
PRINCIPLES!
Is torture EVER an American Principle?
Is spying on your own people, in contravention of the very law crafted to protect these same people from such an abuse EVER an American Principle?
Zoning free speech is an American Principle?
Etc….
.
November 14th, 2007 at 2:13 amAmericans no longer demonstrate a willingness to hold their leaders accountable, and thus begins America’s descent into Africa.
November 14th, 2007 at 2:58 amMapleStreet
Which is why the US constitution actually has an exception to the president’s ability to pardon: A president cannot pardon in the case of impeachment.
Which is to say that Ford’s pardon of Nixon was actually downright unconstitutional.
November 14th, 2007 at 3:00 amA number of us who pay attention have long been aware of the deceit and corruption of the Bush-Cheney (and formerly Delay) triumviri; however, it is the willingness of the Democratic majority (and near majority) to confront them seriously on any substantive issues that has me most concerned. I’m afraid we have more ONO Democrats than we can tolerate!
November 14th, 2007 at 6:34 amDavis X Machina @43,
That’s a very interesting observation. I wondered at the time why the Republicans were pushing so strongly for impeachment for such a trivial affair. You are correct, though. All the Republican Presidents (perhaps with the exception of Ford) have deserved impeachment for legitimate reasons. With impeachment out of the picture, they need only get power through the vagaries of the democratic process in order to rape and pillage on a massive scale (as they have done these past 7 years). If we refuse to pursue it for such a blatant case as Bush 43, then I fear the procedure is truly dead.
November 14th, 2007 at 8:23 amThis level of support for impeachment is phenominally high, considering the all-but-complete media blackout surrounding the impeachment issue.
November 14th, 2007 at 8:25 am“I call on all governments to join with the United States and the community of law-abiding nations in prohibiting, investigating, and prosecuting all acts of torture … and we are leading this fight by example.Quoted in “The Dark Art of Interrogation,” The Atlantic Monthly, October 2003
GEORGE W. BUSH
Our Dear Leader is ASKING us to DO SOMETHING to STOP him!
November 14th, 2007 at 8:36 am“The probability that we may fail in the struggle ought not to deter us from the support of a cause we believe to be just.”
Abraham Lincoln
ARE YOU LISTENING PELOSI? REID?
November 14th, 2007 at 8:36 amDo you hear that, Nancy? Or are you so afraid of being “soft” on terrorism and/or bought and sold by the Israeli Lobby?
Get a backbone and impeach the “son of a Bush”.
November 14th, 2007 at 8:49 amread this :
http://www.911truth.org/ article.php?story=20071108213559326
November 14th, 2007 at 8:51 amOf course, if nothing is done now — whoever gets in the White House in 2009 will not want to give up the executive power grab that the Bush Killing Machine have gotten away with the past 7 years.
November 14th, 2007 at 8:56 amobviously, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats aren’t part of the majority… but, since they’re part of the Political Elite like the Repigs, it doesn’t matter what the majority wants / believes… they blithely ignore the “will of the people” and stand by one of their own
November 14th, 2007 at 9:07 amWhen the dems take over in 2009 and begin to use the same powers that Bush has taken for the executive office, we will see a huge outcry of “abuse of power” and pressure will come to remove those unitary powers.
But that will be because the repugnicans will be unable to bear the thought of a democrat having powers they want only for them selves and their anointed ones.
Rightfully, no president should have the unitary powers that Bush has taken, and which have been tacitly blessed by the congress, but the outcry of “abuse” has been stifled for the duration.
November 14th, 2007 at 10:56 am“Majority believe Bush has committed impeachable offenses.”
Too bad we don’t live in a democracy. It might actually mean something then.
November 14th, 2007 at 11:19 amTHE REST OF THE WORLD DOES NOT THINK HE COMMITED IMPEACHABLE OFFECES… THE REST OF THE WORLD KNOWS HE HAS COMMITED THEM. THE USA IS STANDING ALONE IN THE WORLD COMMUNITY! WAKE UP AMERICA!
November 14th, 2007 at 1:47 pmDon’t forget to impeach Cheney first. That’s mighty important.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:49 pmForget about impeachment. Let’s have Bush and Cheney “enhancedly” questioned to see if they are crooks. It is a matter of national security! I bet the two of them would have a lot of fascinating intelligence to share with, euhm….you know…. the people. Bringing the Bushies to Gitmo would serve the troops right for having been sent to Baghdad in the first place.
November 14th, 2007 at 5:29 pmWhat is the margin of error on this poll? It’s not necessarily a majority. Still, this is a big improvement. It is enough that Congress should take notice. What I take from this poll is that more people need to be educated about what Bush has been up to.
The thing about this poll that baffles me the most is that so many people don’t think it’s worth impeaching Bush for impeachable offenses. The only thing I can think of to give them the benefit of the doubt is that they think impeach automatically means remove from office. Do they really think that we shouldn’t even hold a hearing to investigate known impeachable offenses?
If progressives just started calling Bush’s actions what they are, un-American, we might get more attention. The GOP does it so why can’t we fight fire with fire?
November 14th, 2007 at 5:30 pm60. Bruce Gorton,
I hope that you are right. But I’ve seen enough to know that there is the law as it is written and there is the law as it is interpreted and there is the law as it is applied.
In the case of Ford and Nixon, Ford did it. Nixon now seems to be in the process of coming back into public favor.
November 14th, 2007 at 5:31 pm