Comments on: White House: Reality Of Iraq War Has A Well-Known Liberal Bias http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:09:42 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: acetsar http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-4156930 acetsar Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:10:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/#comment-4156930 DEM. they did three things when they came in. Raise the minimum wage to $7.25 an hour, maybe in one step. Cut the interest rate on student loans in half. Allow the government to negotiate directly with the pharmaceutical companies for lower drug prices for Medicare patients. Broaden the types of stem cell research allowed with federal funds. Sorry #4 cry about everyone pushing them around. where have they gone all you see is crying about Bush, stop crying about Bush do something to show us your still trying. One thing dont stop the money to are troops without them all of us get to go fight. (truth). Sorry this is all about the spending on the war and a report that came out this week. I heard that and first thought was REP. have to say something about the report then the money then ............. STOP the sh!t the people are smarter now and they see you! U-TUBE shows alot but again money control that too. DEM. they did three things when they came in. Raise the minimum wage to $7.25 an hour, maybe in one step. Cut the interest rate on student loans in half. Allow the government to negotiate directly with the pharmaceutical companies for lower drug prices for Medicare patients.
Broaden the types of stem cell research allowed with federal funds. Sorry #4 cry about everyone pushing them around. where have they gone all you see is crying about Bush, stop crying about Bush do something to show us your still trying. One thing dont stop the money to are troops without them all of us get to go fight. (truth). Sorry this is all about the spending on the war and a report that came out this week. I heard that and first thought was REP. have to say something about the report then the money then …………. STOP the sh!t the people are smarter now and they see you! U-TUBE shows alot but again money control that too.

]]> By: acetsar http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-4156840 acetsar Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:30:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/#comment-4156840 Bush said at first this is going to cost us alot of money, time and respect. I love this report "Iraq and Afghanistan at $1.6 trillion". I'm sorry but these idiots cant tell you what is going to happen. DEM. Lazy, lazy cry babys why the report now just to start sh!t. I want a report on all the little projects they have in there state. REP. greedy , same as the DEM. Where is all the money really, I want to know! They dont know people get to a level an think its ok my asst. will handle it. I have noticed the Asst. are stealing money and putting money in the freezer. (REP) I will tell you about the DEM. later. :) Bush said at first this is going to cost us alot of money, time and respect. I love this report “Iraq and Afghanistan at $1.6 trillion”. I’m sorry but these idiots cant tell you what is going to happen. DEM. Lazy, lazy cry babys why the report now just to start sh!t. I want a report on all the little projects they have in there state. REP. greedy , same as the DEM. Where is all the money really, I want to know! They dont know people get to a level an think its ok my asst. will handle it. I have noticed the Asst. are stealing money and putting money in the freezer. (REP) I will tell you about the DEM. later. :)

]]> By: impeachcheneythenbush http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-4156725 impeachcheneythenbush Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:09:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/#comment-4156725 "A senior adviser to Bush told this to Suskind. …guys like me were ”in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who ”believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ”That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. ”We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.” - Ron Suskind “Without a Doubt” Any guesses who this "senior advisor" was? Suskind never revealed that. “A senior adviser to Bush told this to Suskind. …guys like me were ”in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who ”believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ”That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. ”We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”
- Ron Suskind “Without a Doubt”

Any guesses who this “senior advisor” was? Suskind never revealed that.

]]> By: impeachcheneythenbush http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-4156724 impeachcheneythenbush Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:08:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/#comment-4156724 Oct. 24, 2007 - Dana Perino - ($2 trillion war cost) "I'm not worried about the number." January 5, 2007 - Tony Snow (milestone of 2500 dead American troops due to Iraq War) - "It's a number." What IS real to these people? Oct. 24, 2007 – Dana Perino – ($2 trillion war cost) “I’m not worried about the number.”

January 5, 2007 – Tony Snow (milestone of 2500 dead American troops due to Iraq War) – “It’s a number.”

What IS real to these people?

]]> By: oscarmadison http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-4156714 oscarmadison Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:55:38 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/#comment-4156714 <blockquote>The Bush administration has now requested a total of over $800 billion for the direct costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.</blockquote> <blockquote>Borrowing this money has resulted in an additional $60 billion in interest on war-related debt so far, with decades of future payments to come. </blockquote> 60 billion in interest payments, to who? who benifits for years and years to come from interest payments like these? these wars are quit an investment for whoever underwrites these fiasco's of death.

The Bush administration has now requested a total of over $800 billion for the direct costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Borrowing this money has resulted in an additional $60 billion in interest on war-related debt so far, with decades of future payments to come.

60 billion in interest payments, to who? who benifits for years and years to come from interest payments like these?

these wars are quit an investment for whoever underwrites these fiasco’s of death.

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-4156689 Chocolate Jesus Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:31:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/#comment-4156689 thank god we're taking bigfwats advice and not letting accountants run this war... thank god we’re taking bigfwats advice and not letting accountants run this war…

]]> By: Bartolo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-4156676 Bartolo Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:26:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/#comment-4156676 Perino said she’s “not worried about the number.” Of course she's not worried. The incoming Democratic administration will inherit the mammoth debt and worthless dollar given them by aWol. Perino said she’s “not worried about the number.”

Of course she’s not worried. The incoming Democratic administration will inherit the mammoth debt and worthless dollar given them by aWol.

]]> By: Briseadh na Faire http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-4156637 Briseadh na Faire Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:43:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/#comment-4156637 Merlin, it sounds like a quote from 1984! Merlin,

it sounds like a quote from 1984!

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-4156587 MapleStreet Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:30:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/#comment-4156587 I find it odd that the neocon mantra is to shout at how taxes are bad and the America does best when his money is in his own pocket and not paid for taxes, etc. etc. But then, obliviously takes this action which raises gas prices (effectively a tax on the american public in everything from transportation to plastics to agriculture higher prices), and gives each family a debt of $ 20 K I find it odd that the neocon mantra is to shout at how taxes are bad and the America does best when his money is in his own pocket and not paid for taxes, etc. etc.

But then, obliviously takes this action which raises gas prices (effectively a tax on the american public in everything from transportation to plastics to agriculture higher prices), and gives each family a debt of $ 20 K

]]> By: DieNowForPeace http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-4156586 DieNowForPeace Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:30:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/#comment-4156586 Unfortunately for the Shrub, <strong>reality </strong>has an <strong>intellectual </strong>bias. Unfortunately for the Shrub, reality has an intellectual bias.

]]> By: Bad Eye http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-4156564 Bad Eye Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:45:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/#comment-4156564 Bush may not have asked America to sacrifice, but he thinks we have. From an interview with Brian Williams, 8/29/06: WILLIAMS: The folks who say you should have asked for some sort of sacrifice from all of us after 9/11, do they have a case looking back on it? BUSH: Americans are sacrificing. I mean, we are. You know, we pay a lot of taxes. America sacrificed when they, you know, when the economy went into the tank. Americans sacrificed when, you know, air travel was disrupted. American taxpayers have paid a lot to help this nation recover. I think Americans have sacrificed. <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14576012/" rel="nofollow">Link.</a> Bush may not have asked America to sacrifice, but he thinks we have.

From an interview with Brian Williams, 8/29/06:

WILLIAMS: The folks who say you should have asked for some sort of sacrifice from all of us after 9/11, do they have a case looking back on it?

BUSH: Americans are sacrificing. I mean, we are. You know, we pay a lot of taxes. America sacrificed when they, you know, when the economy went into the tank. Americans sacrificed when, you know, air travel was disrupted. American taxpayers have paid a lot to help this nation recover. I think Americans have sacrificed.

Link.

]]> By: sacopenapa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-4156562 sacopenapa Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:44:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/#comment-4156562 TWO MILLION OF CIVILIANS ARE DEAD IN IRAQ, BECAUSE OF THE USA, WHO LIED ABOUT WMD, DEMOCRACY PROMOTION, WHILE OIL CORPORATIONS, MERCENARY ARMIES AND BUSH AND THEIR FRIENDS PROFITED. WAR CRIMINALS! USA=WAR CRIMES. TWO MILLION OF CIVILIANS ARE DEAD IN IRAQ, BECAUSE OF THE USA, WHO LIED ABOUT WMD, DEMOCRACY PROMOTION, WHILE OIL CORPORATIONS, MERCENARY ARMIES AND BUSH AND THEIR FRIENDS PROFITED. WAR CRIMINALS! USA=WAR CRIMES.

]]> By: sacopenapa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-4156559 sacopenapa Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:40:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/#comment-4156559 WAR CRIMINALS SHOULD NOT BE IN CHARGE, THEY SHOULD BE TRIED AND EXECUTED! WAR CRIMINALS SHOULD NOT BE IN CHARGE, THEY SHOULD BE TRIED AND EXECUTED!

]]> By: Merlin http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-4156557 Merlin Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:40:00 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/#comment-4156557 A senior adviser to Bush told this to Suskind. ...guys like me were ”in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who ”believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ”That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. ”We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.” - Ron Suskind “Without a Doubt” And that is what they are doing and have been doing since 2001. They do what ever they damn well please and the people have to clean up their mess. "If they haven't got bread, let them eat cake," is a very current attitude coming out of BushCo. "What's a few trillion bucks?" I'm not worried about it, she says! Set up the head seperator, folks. Maybe it will put some sense of reality on the table. A senior adviser to Bush told this to Suskind. …guys like me were ”in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who ”believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ”That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. ”We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”
- Ron Suskind “Without a Doubt”

And that is what they are doing and have been doing since 2001. They do what ever they damn well please and the people have to clean up their mess. “If they haven’t got bread, let them eat cake,” is a very current attitude coming out of BushCo. “What’s a few trillion bucks?” I’m not worried about it, she says! Set up the head seperator, folks. Maybe it will put some sense of reality on the table.

]]> By: sacopenapa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-4156556 sacopenapa Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:39:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/#comment-4156556 Hahahahahahaaaaa! I still remeber the arrogancy of the WAR CRIMINAL Rumsfeld saying that it would be a quick War and an a cheap one too!!!! Hahahahaha! You don't need islamic extremists to destroy the US. You have the WAR CRIMINALS in the White House and in the Pentagon doing it for them, very efficiently!!!! The US is hated around the globe, its image revelled (Abu Graib, Fahlujah, Guantanamo Bay...) and uncle Sam will have a hell of a lot of trouble trying to sell his fish next time! Hahahahahaha! 3860!!!!Hahahahahahahahaaaaaa! Hahahahahahaaaaa! I still remeber the arrogancy of the WAR CRIMINAL Rumsfeld saying that it would be a quick War and an a cheap one too!!!! Hahahahaha! You don’t need islamic extremists to destroy the US. You have the WAR CRIMINALS in the White House and in the Pentagon doing it for them, very efficiently!!!! The US is hated around the globe, its image revelled (Abu Graib, Fahlujah, Guantanamo Bay…) and uncle Sam will have a hell of a lot of trouble trying to sell his fish next time! Hahahahahaha! 3860!!!!Hahahahahahahahaaaaaa!

]]> By: Briseadh na Faire http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-4156542 Briseadh na Faire Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:06:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/#comment-4156542 $2,500,000,000. It's just a number. <blockquote>On March 27, 2003, Wolfowitz told a Congressional panel that oil revenue earned by Iraq alone would pay for Iraq's reconstruction after the Iraq war; he testified: "The oil revenues of that country could bring between $50 and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years. Now, there are a lot of claims on that money, but … We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction and relatively soon.”</blockquote> 3864 Dead Americans. It's just a number. <blockquote>"Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties." Bush, discussing the Iraq war with Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson in 2003, as quoted by Robertson.</blockquote> Meanwhile, let's make tax cuts for the Ruling Class permanent, and veto Healthcare and Education for children. $2,500,000,000.

It’s just a number.

On March 27, 2003, Wolfowitz told a Congressional panel that oil revenue earned by Iraq alone would pay for Iraq’s reconstruction after the Iraq war; he testified: “The oil revenues of that country could bring between $50 and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years. Now, there are a lot of claims on that money, but … We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction and relatively soon.”

3864 Dead Americans.

It’s just a number.

“Oh, no, we’re not going to have any casualties.” Bush, discussing the Iraq war with Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson in 2003, as quoted by Robertson.

Meanwhile, let’s make tax cuts for the Ruling Class permanent, and veto Healthcare and Education for children.

]]> By: dixie blood http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-4156516 dixie blood Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:13:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/#comment-4156516 Katy, "33% went to the top 1%" (from your link and quote) I was wrong, instead of 20% going to the "top 1%" it was "33%." Proves my point even further!!! Katy,

“33% went to the top 1%” (from your link and quote)

I was wrong, instead of 20% going to the “top 1%” it was “33%.” Proves my point even further!!!

]]> By: Doc Rock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-4156510 Doc Rock Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:05:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/#comment-4156510 And the SOBs will all be dead and gone when my grand kids are being crushed under these crooks' debt! And the SOBs will all be dead and gone when my grand kids are being crushed under these crooks’ debt!

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-4156497 bilbobaggins Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:56:56 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/#comment-4156497 This is the message that the Democrats need to pound day after day after day until the sheeple finally get it. If they can't see the wrongness of occupying another country, perhaps they can see the wrongness of their children and great grandchildren paying for Bush's folly. I truly believe that most Americans have no idea what this war is costing us, financially, morally and physically. This is the message that the Democrats need to pound day after day after day until the sheeple finally get it. If they can’t see the wrongness of occupying another country, perhaps they can see the wrongness of their children and great grandchildren paying for Bush’s folly. I truly believe that most Americans have no idea what this war is costing us, financially, morally and physically.

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-4156496 katy Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:56:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/nussle-attack-iraq-hidden/#comment-4156496 dixie - i just paraphrased (plagiarized?) from this: <em>Bush's tax cuts have gone overwhelmingly to the very richest of Americans. Of $1.7 trillion in total cuts, $578 billion or 33% went to the top 1% of income earners according to Citizens for Tax Justice. The top 20% of income earners received 71% of all tax cuts. http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0108-20.htm</em> dixie – i just paraphrased (plagiarized?) from this:

Bush’s tax cuts have gone overwhelmingly to the very richest of Americans. Of $1.7 trillion in total cuts, $578 billion or 33% went to the top 1% of income earners according to Citizens for Tax Justice. The top 20% of income earners received 71% of all tax cuts.

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0108-20.htm

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