Comments on: Right-wing blogs ignore facts to claim ‘liberal bias.’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:10:51 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-4156659 Gregor Samsa Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:04:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/#comment-4156659 <i>Right-wing blogs ignore facts to claim ‘liberal bias.’</i> And this is news because.... ? Right-wing blogs ignore facts to claim ‘liberal bias.’

And this is news because…. ?

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-4156340 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:29:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/#comment-4156340 swordsbane: "Screw balance. Balance is not what we need in the media. Honesty and integrity is." As long as politically connected large corporations run an unregulated media, honesty and integrity will be hard to come by. Large corporations are about profit, not public service. swordsbane: “Screw balance. Balance is not what we need in the media. Honesty and integrity is.”

As long as politically connected large corporations run an unregulated media, honesty and integrity will be hard to come by. Large corporations are about profit, not public service.

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-4156235 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:45:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/#comment-4156235 Let's keep in mind that the management of Newsweek knew first hand before the last presidential election that the Bush administration was lying about a national security issue. Cooper's testimony at the Libby trial was that he and his bosses knew that members of the administration had disclosed Plame's identity and position. So, Newsweek knew that Bush was lying about the Plame affair BEFORE THE ELECTION and chose not to disclose that fact to the American people. This is hardly the sign of a liberal publication. Let’s keep in mind that the management of Newsweek knew first hand before the last presidential election that the Bush administration was lying about a national security issue. Cooper’s testimony at the Libby trial was that he and his bosses knew that members of the administration had disclosed Plame’s identity and position. So, Newsweek knew that Bush was lying about the Plame affair BEFORE THE ELECTION and chose not to disclose that fact to the American people. This is hardly the sign of a liberal publication.

]]> By: Squegeeboo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-4155828 Squegeeboo Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:11:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/#comment-4155828 ralph the wonder llama <em>but I think it’s just because you’re one of our very few rational dissenting voices</em> Well thank you, but I don't know that I would go so far as to call me 'rational' ralph the wonder llama
but I think it’s just because you’re one of our very few rational dissenting voices

Well thank you, but I don’t know that I would go so far as to call me ‘rational’

]]> By: swordsbane http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-4155748 swordsbane Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:43:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/#comment-4155748 So.. let me get this straight... The argument is over balancing the news with both liberal and conservative views? This takes 80+ comments? Did it ever occur to anyone that the liberals will cry conservative bias when the news doesn't say what they want and the conservatives will cry liberal bias when the news doesn't say what they want, and nothing and no one is going to change that by hiring the same number of conservatives and liberals. How about hire people who tell the truth? Screw balance. Balance is not what we need in the media. Honesty and integrity is. So.. let me get this straight… The argument is over balancing the news with both liberal and conservative views? This takes 80+ comments? Did it ever occur to anyone that the liberals will cry conservative bias when the news doesn’t say what they want and the conservatives will cry liberal bias when the news doesn’t say what they want, and nothing and no one is going to change that by hiring the same number of conservatives and liberals.

How about hire people who tell the truth?

Screw balance. Balance is not what we need in the media. Honesty and integrity is.

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-4155708 MapleStreet Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:24:56 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/#comment-4155708 Really Dumb Question: If news media is so liberal biased, why is it that the Bushies have worked so hard and steady to allow a single person or corporation to own more and more stations (see Murdoch, see the current move to allow the video media to own the paper media) ??? I mean if media were so liberal, it seems like the Neocons would want to limit current media folks from buying up more outlets. Really Dumb Question:

If news media is so liberal biased, why is it that the Bushies have worked so hard and steady to allow a single person or corporation to own more and more stations (see Murdoch, see the current move to allow the video media to own the paper media) ???

I mean if media were so liberal, it seems like the Neocons would want to limit current media folks from buying up more outlets.

]]> By: ralph the wonder llama http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-4155701 ralph the wonder llama Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:22:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/#comment-4155701 <em>I don’t understand why everyone complains about the trolls. Its the trolls that make this place interesting. Could you imagine what the threads would look like without the trolls? I imagine it would be awful boring with everyone agreeing with each other and such. Comment by dim wit — November 14, 2007 @ 11:38 am</em> Good point, dim, and I suspect this conflict-driven added activity is what leads TP to keep the trolls around. The problem is, they're like junk food. A few Doritos makes a tasty addition to a sandwich plate, but if you eat nothing but Doritos, you're going to feel very ill very quickly. That's what uber-trolls like "hits" and "Usual left Tit" and TCDon represent: an entire meal of Nacho cheese Doritos, force-fed. Empty calories. Wasted effort. I don’t understand why everyone complains about the trolls. Its the trolls that make this place interesting.

Could you imagine what the threads would look like without the trolls? I imagine it would be awful boring with everyone agreeing with each other and such.

Comment by dim wit — November 14, 2007 @ 11:38 am

Good point, dim, and I suspect this conflict-driven added activity is what leads TP to keep the trolls around.

The problem is, they’re like junk food. A few Doritos makes a tasty addition to a sandwich plate, but if you eat nothing but Doritos, you’re going to feel very ill very quickly.

That’s what uber-trolls like “hits” and “Usual left Tit” and TCDon represent: an entire meal of Nacho cheese Doritos, force-fed. Empty calories. Wasted effort.

]]> By: Leftside Annie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-4155684 Leftside Annie Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:17:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/#comment-4155684 73 - Now *that* would be interesting!! Maybe even woodenheaded conservatives could recognize batchit crazy if it were snugged up against rational thought... Or not... 73 – Now *that* would be interesting!!

Maybe even woodenheaded conservatives could recognize batchit crazy if it were snugged up against rational thought…

Or not…

]]> By: ralph the wonder llama http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-4155682 ralph the wonder llama Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:16:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/#comment-4155682 Squegeeboo, I have come to the point where I just ignore everything "hits" posts. However, I found your conversation with him really entertaining. Maybe I'm being childish, but I think it's just because you're one of our very few rational dissenting voices, and "hits" is one of our most irrational trolls. The altered dynamic is what I found entertaining. That, and your clearly-voiced rebuttals of virtually everything "hits" posted, rebuttals he was unable to comprehend, evidently. Well done. Squegeeboo, I have come to the point where I just ignore everything “hits” posts. However, I found your conversation with him really entertaining. Maybe I’m being childish, but I think it’s just because you’re one of our very few rational dissenting voices, and “hits” is one of our most irrational trolls.

The altered dynamic is what I found entertaining. That, and your clearly-voiced rebuttals of virtually everything “hits” posted, rebuttals he was unable to comprehend, evidently.

Well done.

]]> By: joe cantwell http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-4155680 joe cantwell Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:14:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/#comment-4155680 Another bunch of useless comments where everyone focuses on the moron hits and what he/she has to say. Don’t complain about trolls if you’re intent on feeding them. Just hand over the keys and say “you won”. All a troll is interested in is misdirection, not discussion and you’re buying right into it. This thread is useless. Comment by Dave C — November 14, 2007 @ 11:28 am i think you're missing the "fun factor". no on likes trolls but you can have fun messing with their heads (it's easy!) and besides if you want to push past their bullshit do it with better ideas and opinions. whining about "useless threads" is useless. you're smarter than they are (everyone is). start acting like it. Another bunch of useless comments where everyone focuses on the moron hits and what he/she has to say. Don’t complain about trolls if you’re intent on feeding them. Just hand over the keys and say “you won”. All a troll is interested in is misdirection, not discussion and you’re buying right into it. This thread is useless.

Comment by Dave C — November 14, 2007 @ 11:28 am

i think you’re missing the “fun factor”. no on likes trolls but you can have fun messing with their heads (it’s easy!) and besides if you want to push past their bullshit do it with better ideas and opinions. whining about “useless threads” is useless. you’re smarter than they are (everyone is). start acting like it.

]]> By: hellinabucket http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-4155612 hellinabucket Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:44:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/#comment-4155612 I hope that Newsweek will not only let them both write opinion pieces, but have a line of questioning presented to both. Let both answer the same questions and present their answers side by side so all who read can easily see the differences and decide for themselves instead of each side crowing about their own talking points. Let them decifer each debate with the same questions and see where they fall. I hope that Newsweek will not only let them both write opinion pieces, but have a line of questioning presented to both. Let both answer the same questions and present their answers side by side so all who read can easily see the differences and decide for themselves instead of each side crowing about their own talking points.

Let them decifer each debate with the same questions and see where they fall.

]]> By: dim wit http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-4155599 dim wit Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:38:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/#comment-4155599 Comment by Dave C — November 14, 2007 @ 11:28 am Recommend (0) | Report Abuse I don't understand why everyone complains about the trolls. Its the trolls that make this place interesting. Could you imagine what the threads would look like without the trolls? I imagine it would be awful boring with everyone agreeing with each other and such. Comment by Dave C — November 14, 2007 @ 11:28 am
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I don’t understand why everyone complains about the trolls. Its the trolls that make this place interesting.

Could you imagine what the threads would look like without the trolls? I imagine it would be awful boring with everyone agreeing with each other and such.

]]> By: missmolly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-4155597 missmolly Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:37:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/#comment-4155597 The obvious guesses would be Malkin or Coulter but we’ll just have to see. Comment by FearandSmear — November 14, 2007 @ 9:58 am That would be very good for the progressives if Newsweek got a flaming nutcase to represent the conservative side. And since conservatives actually support people like Maklin and Coulter, they wouldn't be able to complain when the readership of Newsweek sees a racist lunatic next to a rational progressive. The obvious guesses would be Malkin or Coulter but we’ll just have to see.

Comment by FearandSmear — November 14, 2007 @ 9:58 am

That would be very good for the progressives if Newsweek got a flaming nutcase to represent the conservative side. And since conservatives actually support people like Maklin and Coulter, they wouldn’t be able to complain when the readership of Newsweek sees a racist lunatic next to a rational progressive.

]]> By: PatrioticLiberalChristian http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-4155594 PatrioticLiberalChristian Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:36:00 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/#comment-4155594 I hope PLC is paying attention to the “debate”. Comment by gummitch — November 14, 2007 @ 10:16 am Unfortunately, I wasn't (or fortunately). It didn't take hits long to devolve, did it. I still stand by my opinion that hits seemed to start the day off without trolling and I still think we should always give the troll the opportunity to change. But after two or at most three troll posts, they should be ignored or talked about behind their back only. hits has certainly met the criterion for today. I hope PLC is paying attention to the “debate”.

Comment by gummitch — November 14, 2007 @ 10:16 am

Unfortunately, I wasn’t (or fortunately). It didn’t take hits long to devolve, did it. I still stand by my opinion that hits seemed to start the day off without trolling and I still think we should always give the troll the opportunity to change. But after two or at most three troll posts, they should be ignored or talked about behind their back only. hits has certainly met the criterion for today.

]]> By: pete http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-4155579 pete Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:28:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/#comment-4155579 <em>the rest of us are to be ignored.</em> Comment by judyinnm — November 14, 2007 @ 11:21 am I wouldn't mind if they ignored dissenting opinions. It's the effort to criminalize dissent that makes my blood boil. the rest of us are to be ignored.

Comment by judyinnm — November 14, 2007 @ 11:21 am

I wouldn’t mind if they ignored dissenting opinions. It’s the effort to criminalize dissent that makes my blood boil.

]]> By: Dave C http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-4155578 Dave C Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:28:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/#comment-4155578 Another bunch of useless comments where everyone focuses on the moron hits and what he/she has to say. Don't complain about trolls if you're intent on feeding them. Just hand over the keys and say "you won". All a troll is interested in is misdirection, not discussion and you're buying right into it. This thread is useless. Another bunch of useless comments where everyone focuses on the moron hits and what he/she has to say. Don’t complain about trolls if you’re intent on feeding them. Just hand over the keys and say “you won”. All a troll is interested in is misdirection, not discussion and you’re buying right into it. This thread is useless.

]]> By: Bruce Gorton http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-4155572 Bruce Gorton Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:24:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/#comment-4155572 Art What they would term balanced, normal people around the world term "Batzchit insane" Art

What they would term balanced, normal people around the world term “Batzchit insane”

]]> By: judyinnm http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-4155567 judyinnm Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:21:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/#comment-4155567 Any media source is going to be labeled "liberal" if they dare to present any viewpoint not in lockstep with rightwing dogma, even when it is presented in conjunction with right wing dogma - get used to it. Being indignant about this fact of life is kinda like continuing to be amazed at how indifferent georgejr is to the will of American people; and the ongoing criminal enterprise called the Federal government. In the world of bush & the wingers, only their point of view has any validity, the rest of us are to be ignored. Any media source is going to be labeled “liberal” if they dare to present any viewpoint not in lockstep with rightwing dogma, even when it is presented in conjunction with right wing dogma – get used to it.

Being indignant about this fact of life is kinda like continuing to be amazed at how indifferent georgejr is to the will of American people; and the ongoing criminal enterprise called the Federal government. In the world of bush & the wingers, only their point of view has any validity, the rest of us are to be ignored.

]]> By: Art http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-4155557 Art Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:13:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/#comment-4155557 "Balanced", to them, means everything on their side of the teeter-totter. “Balanced”, to them, means everything on their side of the teeter-totter.

]]> By: joe cantwell http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-4155552 joe cantwell Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:11:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/14/right-wing-blogs-ignore-facts-to-claim-liberal-bias/#comment-4155552 “tcdon can’t make it. he has a prior commitment (klan rally).” Comment by joe cantwell It appears that TCDon may have been voted off the island. Everything he posted yesterday was removed. Maybe if enough of you flagged hits, he could end up joining TCDon in exile. Comment by troll buster — November 14, 2007 @ 11:04 am you may have a point. "<em>You are free to ignore and not be influenced by my opinions.</em>" is a cut and paste from yesterday's comments. he's stealing from himself. can't imagine how he didn't expect anyone to notice. <strong>hits</strong>, do you have anything to say for yourself young man? “tcdon can’t make it. he has a prior commitment (klan rally).”
Comment by joe cantwell
It appears that TCDon may have been voted off the island. Everything he posted yesterday was removed. Maybe if enough of you flagged hits, he could end up joining TCDon in exile.

Comment by troll buster — November 14, 2007 @ 11:04 am

you may have a point.

“You are free to ignore and not be influenced by my opinions.” is a cut and paste from yesterday’s comments. he’s stealing from himself. can’t imagine how he didn’t expect anyone to notice.

hits, do you have anything to say for yourself young man?

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