State Dept. IG’s brother sits on Blackwater’s board.
State Dept. IG’s brother sits on Blackwater’s board.
During today’s House oversight committee hearing on State Department Inspector General Howard Krongard, “Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) dropped a bombshell: Krongard’s brother, former CIA Executive Director A.B. ‘Buzzy’ Krongard, sits on Blackwater’s board. Blackwater, of course, is a State Department contractor.” Under questioning by Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD), Krongard denied that his brother worked for Blackwater and said he would recuse himself from Blackwater investigations if it’s true:
Cummings: “According to this email, Mr. Prince invited your brother to be at a board meeting to discuss strategic planning. And this meeting is taking place right now, in Williamsburg, Virginia, this week as we speak.Staff contacted the hotel to speak to your brother and the hotel confirmed that he was scheduled to be there. Did you know that?”
Krongard: “No sir, I did not.”
Cummings: “And so, if your brother is a board member, which you said he’s not, but if he is — since I know you’re sensitive to conflict — would you agree that you should recuse yourself of anything dealing with Blackwater investigations?”
Krongard: “Yes, sir. And that was why — first of all, by the nature of my brother’s work, you should understand that we have never discussed his work or my work, so I had no reason to even think that he had any involvement with Blackwater. But, when these things surfaced, I called him and I asked him directly, he has told me he does have any involvement, he does not have any financial interest. If you’re telling me he does absolutely I would recuse myself.”
Cummings: “You will recuse yourself?”
Krongard: “Absolutely.”
Rep. Cummings: “Immediately?”
Krongard: “Absolutely.”
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Blackwater is a honorable organization consisting of heroes from our military. Any kind of insinuation against this body should not be tolerated or propagated.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:29 pman obvious crib from TPM as they have updated this story since. you need to run on back and copy the new facts that have come out over there.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:30 pmYes, sir. And that was why — first of all, by the nature of my brother’s work, you should understand that we have never discussed his work or my work, so I had no reason to even think that he had any involvement with Blackwater.
I can only imagine what Thanksgiving must be like at the Krongard house. All awkward silences and small talk. Everyone just waiting with baited breath for the game to start. I mean, if they don’t talk about work, I can only imagine what other topics are off the table.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:31 pmThey are brothers and he doesn’t know what his brother does for a living? Yeah. I’m buying that one.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:31 pmhits, you are an idiot. the de facto tag of ‘hero’ for military and ex-military personnel to prevent any criticism of national security or defense issues and to bolster the illusion that wingnuts or the Bush WH gives a shit about soldiers is transparent and there is nothing you 30%ers can do about it.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:32 pmBlackwater is a honorable organization consisting of heroes from our military.
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 12:29 pm
This is not entirely accurate. They’re not just heroes from our military, but also heroes from Chilean death squads, South African pro-apartheid forces, and the School of the Americas.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:33 pmBlackwater is a honorable organization consisting of heroes from our military. Any kind of insinuation against this body should not be tolerated or propagated.
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 12:29 pm
I doubt that the problem here is Blackwater’s reputation (although that may be a problem for some people). I suspect it has more to do with a conflict of interest if the State Department Inspector General has a family member directly involved with an organization contracted by the State Department.
It’s exactly this conflict of interest issue that forced Dick Cheney to divest himself of all interest in Halliburton before Halliburton could even be considered for government contracts.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:34 pmtoasterhead,
Your attempt at humor doesn’t cut much ice in this context.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 12:35 pmBush’s deathsquad private SS mercenary assassins have their icy murderous fingers in every thing and place already.
can’t you smell the orwellian police state martial law yet?
November 14th, 2007 at 12:35 pmpinhut,
I would agree with you on the point of who should be called a “hero”. That’s not germane to the point, however. Fact remains that the focus on Blackwater is largely misplaced. They should just be allowed to do their jobs.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 12:36 pmThey are brothers and he doesn’t know what his brother does for a living? Yeah. I’m buying that one.
Comment by IgnoranceIsNotBliss — November 14, 2007 @ 12:31 pm
It’s possible. Not all siblings are close. It’s also possible that sitting on the board of directors of Blackwater isn’t a full-time job (BoD positions seldom are), and that the brother has a day job.
It’s also possible that somebody is lying through his teeth — either Krongard or Waxman. Question: who would have the biggest reason to do that?
November 14th, 2007 at 12:37 pmmissmolly,
You do have a point, and your rationale is accurate as well.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 12:38 pmConflict of interest only applies when it has nothing to do with national security… then its encouraged….
November 14th, 2007 at 12:38 pmThey are being cornered for their cronyism, and rats hate being cornered.
Ignore (s)hits, it is a Fascist Repukian Neandertard. Never, ever respond to that piece of toilet scum.
Buck Fush
November 14th, 2007 at 12:39 pmI can only imagine what Thanksgiving must be like at the Krongard house. All awkward silences and small talk. Everyone just waiting with baited breath for the game to start. I mean, if they don’t talk about work, I can only imagine what other topics are off the table.
Comment by toasterhead — November 14, 2007 @ 12:31 pm
This is why people will discuss every nuance of shows like Dancing With the Stars or The Bachelor.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:39 pmBuckie Boy,
Your post is supremely amusing, considering the context in which it is made.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 12:41 pmI heard that Blackwater confiscated the guns of citizens protecting their homes during Katrina. The NRA needs to stand up to the mercenaries.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:41 pmActually, I think the brother on the Board of Blackwater is the most unethical of the two. HE should have known his brother’s full time job and his own position were in conflict and he should have informed his brother.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:42 pmSome underpaid clerk at a hotel said “uh, yeah” to Cummings’ staff, resulting in the story -
Mr. Prince invited your brother to be at a board meeting to discuss strategic planning.
which in a leap of faith during questioning becomes
if your brother is a board member
which is taken on faith and reissued as
State Dept. IG’s brother sits on Blackwater’s board
Don’t sensationalize. We’ve got sensory overload as it is.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:42 pmYour attempt at humor doesn’t cut much ice in this context.
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 12:35 pm
It’s really not funny. It’s true: http://www.albionmonitor.com/0404a/iraqmercenaries.html
November 14th, 2007 at 12:42 pmYour attempt at humor doesn’t cut much ice in this context.
Hits
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 12:35 pm
Funny, most of your comments cut the cheese. If you’re unhappy here shits, feel free to leave.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:42 pmI would agree with you on the point of who should be called a “heroâ€. That’s not germane to the point, however. Fact remains that the focus on Blackwater is largely misplaced. They should just be allowed to do their jobs.
Hits
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
if you’d prefer to live in a police state shit, may I suggest North Korea. Some of us prefer the US to go back to the way it was before the Gestapo of Bushco took office.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:44 pmtoasterhead,
Your attempt at humor doesn’t cut much ice in this context.
Hits
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 12:35 pm
Nor does yours, Sh!ts.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:45 pmtoasterhead,
The humor lies not in the element of fact in your statement. It lies in taking that fact and extrapolating it out of context.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 12:45 pmCummings: “You will recuse yourself?â€
Krongard: “Absolutely.â€
Rep. Cummings: “Immediately?â€
Krongard: “Absolutely.â€
Rep. Cummings: “Seriously?â€
Krongard: “Umm, no.â€
November 14th, 2007 at 12:46 pmBuckie Boy,
Your post is supremely amusing, considering the context in which it is made.
Hits
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 12:41 pm
I thought so too,!
November 14th, 2007 at 12:46 pmShayne,
I am not unhappy anywhere – neither here, not anywhere else. Thanks for your concern.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 12:46 pmShayne,
Actually North Korea would be one of the worst places to live – not much by way of infrastructure and the possibilities of success, you see.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 12:47 pmralph the wonder llama,
I have never professed to being the harbinger of humor. That’s an erroneous assumption you make.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 12:48 pmShayne,
I am not unhappy anywhere – neither here, not anywhere else. Thanks for your concern.
Hits
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 12:46 pm
The right drugs will do that for ya.
Ralph
November 14th, 2007 at 12:49 pm#1 – “Any kind of insinuation against this body should not be tolerated or propagated.” Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 12:29 pm
Since when is the truth an “insinuation”?
When the organizations employees are responsible for murder, why do you refuse to hold them accountable?
November 14th, 2007 at 12:49 pmShayne,
Good. We agree then.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 12:49 pmActually North Korea would be one of the worst places to live – not much by way of infrastructure and the possibilities of success, you see.
Hits
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
Your boy W vetoes infrastructure bills routinely. Seel you’ll fit right in.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:49 pmralph the wonder llama,
That’s a possibility. You seem to speak with the authority of personal experience?
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 12:50 pmralph the wonder llama,
I have never professed to being the harbinger of humor. That’s an erroneous assumption you make.
Hits
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
My bad. I just assumed no one could be that stupid to actually mean the things you post. I can see now you could be that stupid, and are. My apologies.
Ralph
November 14th, 2007 at 12:50 pmYou seem to speak with the authority of personal experience?
Hits
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 12:50 pm
Why do you assume that?
Ralph
November 14th, 2007 at 12:51 pmDemocrat Soldier,
You call them “murderers”. Not everyone agrees with you. If they are designated as such under US law, in a US court, I will change my opinion. Until then, tough luck – that’s the way the law works.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 12:51 pmWow. Aren’t they just cozy??
November 14th, 2007 at 12:51 pmMy bad. I just assumed no one could be that stupid to actually mean the things you post. I can see now you could be that stupid, and are. My apologies.
Ralph
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — November 14, 2007 @ 12:50 pm
Apparently it isn’t drugs either. Shits is just that clueless.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:51 pmIt lies in taking that fact and extrapolating it out of context.
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 12:45 pm
There’s that word again. I’m not entirely sure you know what “extrapolate” means. I did no extrapolation. I informed you that the staff of Blackwater does not solely consist of “American heroes,” but also former Chilean death squad members, South African pro-apartheid forces, and graduates of the School of the Americas. This is well-documented.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:52 pmShayne,
You make assumptions such as “my boy”. Word of advice – don’t.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 12:52 pmYou call them “murderersâ€. Not everyone agrees with you. If they are designated as such under US law, in a US court, I will change my opinion. Until then, tough luck – that’s the way the law works.
Hits
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 12:51 pm
OK Jake, whatever you say, not.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:52 pmralph the wonder llama,
I do not make the assumption – I am insinuating. You are free to dispel my insinuation.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 12:53 pmShayne,
As opposed to your “clued in” remarks on this thread that are very relevant to the discussion at hand?
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 12:54 pmYou call them “murderersâ€. Not everyone agrees with you. If they are designated as such under US law, in a US court, I will change my opinion. Until then, tough luck – that’s the way the law works.
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 12:51 pm
Since the murders were committed in Iraq, they should be tried in Iraq. Unfortunately, Jerry Bremer wrote contractor immunity into Iraqi law. That’s also the way law works. It’s not going to stop me from referring to them as murderers.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:54 pmIt’s not much of an extrapolation to call them murderers.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:55 pmHey shits: word up, dummy:
Report: Blackwater killings unjustified
By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press
WASHINGTON – Blackwater Worldwide supports “stringent accountability” for any wrongdoing, a spokeswoman says following a report saying federal investigators found that the shooting deaths of at least 14 Iraqi civilians by its guards violated rules of deadly force.
The New York Times cited unidentified civilian and military officials in reporting for Wednesday’s editions that the killings of at least 14 of the 17 Iraqi civilians shot by Blackwater personnel guarding a U.S. Embassy convoy were found to have been unjustified and violated standards in place governing the use of deadly force.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071114/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/blackwater_prosecutions;_ylt=AhF.rvO7×22RHd31mEMFgyCs0NUE
Got murder?
November 14th, 2007 at 12:55 pmYou call them “murderersâ€. Not everyone agrees with you. If they are designated as such under US law, in a US court, I will change my opinion. Until then, tough luck – that’s the way the law works.
Hits
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 12:51 pm
You’re right. Not all of the people that work at Blackwater are murderers. I mean, Blackwater must have cooks and accountants, too.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:56 pmtoasterhead,
The fact in your statement is indisputable. Any conclusion you insinuate from it (the extrapolation) remains irrelevant. I can always say – “The sun rises in the East”. That is a fact, but doesn’t advance the argument we have on the table in any meaningful way.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 12:56 pmBlackwater=Goon Squad
November 14th, 2007 at 12:56 pmralph the wonder llama,
I do not make the assumption – I am insinuating. You are free to dispel my insinuation.
Hits
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 12:53 pm
It seems rather foolish to insinuate something that one has not assumed. That would be like professing something one does not believe, for dishonest motives.
Unless it’s simply a childish attempt to insult one without acknowledging that fact.
Which is it?
Ralph
November 14th, 2007 at 12:57 pmtoasterhead,
“They should be tried in Iraq” is a sentiment I do not agree with. Protectors of our National Security don’t deserve to be tried anywhere, but on US soil under US laws.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 12:57 pmLeftside Annie,
Your writhing post doesn’t matter. They have not been charged or convicted. Feel free to believe otherwise.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 12:58 pmLuis M,
You are correct. In fact, none of them are murderers, unless proven,
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 12:59 pmSh!ts, don’t bother answering. I’ve had my fill of Doritos.
November 14th, 2007 at 12:59 pmFreedom for Iraq is a sham according to shits. They aren’t allowed to enforce their own laws. Even murder is of no concern as long the US and its mob of mercenaries say so.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:00 pmralph the wonder llama,
Insinuations are consistent with assumptions. The assumption you are referring to here was never made.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:01 pmFront page of the Chicago Tribune. “FBI faults Blackwater in Iraq slayings”. The FBI has found that 14 of the 17 shootings on Sept. 16 were unjustified and violated rules on deadly force. Investigators found no evidence to support Blackwater’s assertaion that they were fired upon. None.
No insinuation.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:01 pmProtectors of our National Security don’t deserve to be tried anywhere, but on US soil under US laws.
Hits
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 12:57 pm
They don’t deserve to be anywhere but on US soil, too. When will they bring them back to the USA?
November 14th, 2007 at 1:01 pmralph the wonder llama,
I can understand
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:01 pmShayne,
You make assumptions such as “my boyâ€. Word of advice – don’t.
Hits
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 12:52 pm
That wasn’t me knucklehead. Maybe you should reread the thread.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:02 pmjb,
They are allowed to enforce their laws. They should try – that’s their job. We shouldn’t worry about that. Remember that the Taliban was also “enforcing their laws” a few years ago. Didn’t stop us from going in.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:02 pmBlackwater has never been hired to protect our national security. I challange anyone to provide evidence that would support such a flimsy opinion as that.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:02 pmUnder any normal US administration, Blackwater would be fired and disbanded. But they pray to Jeebus, so everything is cool.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:03 pmLuis M,
On that point, I partially agree. I think they stand to fight. They are in the wrong fight right now. The job in Iraq is long completed. Now, we should get out.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:03 pmAs opposed to your “clued in†remarks on this thread that are very relevant to the discussion at hand?
Hits
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 12:54 pm
I know very few people who defend the role of Blackwater. You’re just “special” in that short bus way 23 percenter.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:04 pmHits, by your reasoning Blackwater should just kill itself….just enforcing…
November 14th, 2007 at 1:05 pmYou’re right. Not all of the people that work at Blackwater are murderers. I mean, Blackwater must have cooks and accountants, too.
Comment by Luis M — November 14, 2007 @ 12:56 pm
Naw, Blackwater probably subcontracts Halliburton to provide food and other ancillary services. Blackwater just does murder and now spying.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:05 pmShayne,
I do not defend Blackwater. I am against a declaration of their guilt before a fair trial.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:07 pmjb,
If they pose a threat to our National Security, then yes.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:07 pm“Writhing”…?
Is that what you call telling the truth these days, sHits…?
OK. Whatever. Isn’t it time for Wapner, sweetie…?
November 14th, 2007 at 1:08 pmI hate to say it but Hits is very effective at spamming a thread. Everybody please hit the report abuse flag. And I’ll try to ignore him.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:09 pmI do not defend Blackwater. I am against a declaration of their guilt before a fair trial.
Hits
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 1:07 pm
How will they get a fair trial when the administration worked out arrangements that they cannot be held responsible by the government of Iraq?
November 14th, 2007 at 1:10 pmLeftside Annie,
I was merely trying to ridicule your post.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:11 pmI do not defend Blackwater. I am against a declaration of their guilt before a fair trial.
Hits
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 1:07 pm
What about the dead Iraqi people? Blackwater acts as judge jury and executioner in a foreign country no less. Sounds like a war crime to me, but lets wait till the Hague brings in the verdict.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:11 pmBlackwater was hired to protect our diplomats. Not to protect our national security.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:11 pmShayne,
…and your responses do not constitute spamming because….?
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:11 pmShayne,
Precisely my point – ignore Blackwater and carry on with life.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:12 pmThank GOD for the wonderful technology that gives such a strong voice to so many who don’t deserve it.
Who’d a thunk there were so many fools who enjoy the sound of their own thoughts echoing in the vacuum of the internet’s bathroom(”chat-room”)?
Take a long, hard look – talking loud and/or often doesn’t mean you’re relevant, but rather, makes you look quite insane.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:12 pmGreat. NOW hits want proof….
But he was more than willing to invade with very little validated proof.
And he’s willing to call Balckwater’s mercenaries ‘heroes’ without proof.
But he’s willing to ‘try’ them in an US court when he knows damn well that they been given immunity by the state dept so ‘proof’ is irrelevant.
Thanks hits, I thought you were another Republican sycophant, it turns out, you’re all about the ‘proof’.
Now, prove to me you actually care about the rule of law.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:12 pmjb,
The dead Iraqi people most probably happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Too bad.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:13 pmIs our military so depleted that it can’t provide protection for diplomats?
November 14th, 2007 at 1:13 pmMcE,
I am willing to give some latitude to folks from Blackwater and the military, when it comes to doling out the “Hero” tag.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:14 pmjb,
The dead Iraqi people most probably happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Too bad.
Hits
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
Sure to win hearts and minds. Disgusting and Unamerican.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:14 pmthere is nothing honorable about these WAR CRIMINALS! They got what they deserved in Falujah, and as long as they are helping the FACIST STATE OF AMERICA illegaly occupy Iraq, they are nothing but WAR CRIMINALS!
November 14th, 2007 at 1:15 pmThe dead Iraqi people most probably happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Too bad.
- hits
And what’s a few dead Iraqis either way right? They were probably waiting in line to join AlQueda.
What’s a polite way to call someone a heartless sociopath?
November 14th, 2007 at 1:15 pmIs our military so depleted that it can’t provide protection for diplomats?
Comment by jb — November 14, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
Not that I’m aware of. Seems to me that that argument has been raised as well. It should be our military that is protecting our diplomats. Not the private army of shrubco.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:15 pmOne WORD for Blackwater and the WAR CRIMINAL Mr. Prince: ACCOUNTABILITY!
November 14th, 2007 at 1:16 pmProtectors of our National Security don’t deserve to be tried anywhere, but on US soil under US laws.
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 12:57 pm
Please explain how murdering innocent, unarmed Iraqis protects our national security.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:16 pmjb,
We are not in the business of winning hearts and minds – merely ensuring our survival and that of our intelligence.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:16 pmI am willing to give some latitude to folks from Blackwater and the military, when it comes to doling out the “Hero†tag.
Hits
Plenty of latitude for credit, not much for blame, eh?
November 14th, 2007 at 1:16 pmYou guys, (s)hits is spamming the site and taking over the thread, AGAIN, do not respond to (s)hits posts. Just look at this thread, every other posts is from that idiot. STOP IT, just STOP IT.
We all know he is a Fascist Brownshirt Lockstep War Pig, you don’t need to try point that out.
Just a suggestion, I never respond to that scum bag. (Jake D. Fake)
Buck Fush
November 14th, 2007 at 1:17 pmFALUJAH!!!!! WAR CRIMINALS!!!!!
November 14th, 2007 at 1:17 pmMcE,
We do not know what the Iraqis intended to do. It does not appear that they had any connections with Al Qaeda. However, that’s irrelevant to the situation.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:17 pmralph the wonder llama,
I can understand
Hits
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 1:01 pm
The evidence here says otherwise, but one may admire your continued attempts. Perhaps with enough help from patient TPers, you may eventually understand.
Here’s hoping.
Ralph
November 14th, 2007 at 1:17 pmAnd whatever happened to Personal Responsibilityâ„¢? I thought that was the cornerstone of the Republican party….except when it comes to actually taking responsibility….
November 14th, 2007 at 1:17 pmconstantly trying to equate blackwater and the military is an insult. why do trolls hate the troops?
November 14th, 2007 at 1:18 pmtoasterhead,
You have what is known as “hindsight”. The folks at Blackwater didn’t. You also jump to conclusions.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:18 pmHowever, that’s irrelevant to the situation.
Hits
I bet it’s relevant to someone who got shot.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:19 pmMcE,
Precisely. Especially, when the “blame” is unproven.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:19 pmIts has been 5 years… and it will never end until the FACIST STATE OF AMERICA leave! “Mission acomplished”, “we are making progress”, meanwhile, in the very fortifyed green zone: BOOMMMMMM!HAHAHAHAHAHA!
November 14th, 2007 at 1:20 pmWe are not in the business of winning hearts and minds – merely ensuring our survival and that of our intelligence.
Hits
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 1:16 pm
It`is painfully obvious that any intelligence you may have had has been sacrificed for a god of fear. You are dead meat.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:20 pmIf you haven’t read the TPM comments you may want to. Some interesting info there on his brother “Buzzy”.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:20 pmralph the wonder llama,
I will continue to listen. After all, that’s the liberal mantra.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:20 pmMcE,
Precisely. Especially, when the “blame†is unproven.
Hits
And your buds in the state dept will make sure it CAN’T be proven
November 14th, 2007 at 1:20 pmWe are not in the business of winning hearts and minds – merely ensuring our survival and that of our intelligence.
Hits
Comment by hits
Funny thing is, Darwinism (your mental “crutch”) revealed that the more socially concerned primates were more successful than the “go-it-alone” violent primates. Social grouping allowed for more survivability and evolution. Non-social primates did NOT EVOLVE.
So by your mental crutch’s account, your should be extinct, or swinging from a dirty tire in my local zoo.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:21 pmWe do not know what the Iraqis intended to do.
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 1:17 pm
Live a full and productive life, maybe?
Good thing our heroes from Blackwater were there to keep that from happening.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:21 pmMcE,
To someone who got shot, it doesn’t matter anymore.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:21 pmWAR CRIMINALS!
November 14th, 2007 at 1:21 pmjb,
What you call fear, I call intelligence.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:22 pmMcE,
Not necessarily, but it’s possible.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:22 pmMcE,
To someone who got shot, it doesn’t matter anymore.
Hits
Heh, you may actually, finally, made an accurate statement.
Now, go tell that to the friends and family of the dead.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:22 pmtoasterhead,
I know. How unfortunate, isn’t it?
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:24 pmHits=Chicken shit and renames it intelligence.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:25 pmMcE,
They will have to live with this collateral damage. Unfortunate. But they may as well blame Saddam Hussein for inviting the American’s in to Iraq in the first place, failing which none of these events would have occurred?
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:25 pmjb,
Quite irrelevant
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:25 pmWhat you call fear, I call intelligence.
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 1:22 pm
And what I call documented fact you call “extrapolation,” so it’s obvious that neither English nor intelligence are your strong suits.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:26 pmHits paraphrased, “It’s all Saddam’s fault”
That’s it I’m done. When it gets irrational, I leave. Next, he’ll be blaming Clinton….
November 14th, 2007 at 1:27 pm14 of the 17 shooting deaths on Sept. 16th by Blackwater have been found to be unjustified and violated rules on deadly force by the FBI. Blackwater is in violation and will be prosecuted.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:28 pmYes, the violent, go-it-alone for survival sake primates threw the weaker ones out of the tree tops. However, the “weaker”, more socially aware primates formed groups and learned to rely on and take care of each other, survive better, and evolve.
Aggressive, myopic apes never gained the benefits of societal interaction and therefore fell behind the curve of our evolution.
Here’s your banana. If you’re good, I’ll throw you an old Samsonite suitcase to play with later.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:28 pmBlackwater was not fired upon. Findings of the FBI investigation.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:29 pmBlackwater=war criminals
November 14th, 2007 at 1:29 pmHits=good german
toasterhead,
Your documented fact is a fact. No arguments. What you insinuate from it is the extrapolation. Further, I do not claim any superiority over you or others in regards to the English language. I must admit, though, that I am amused you bring it up.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:29 pmMcE,
On the contrary, I believe Bill Clinton was one of the smartest and most intelligent Presidents we ever had.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:29 pmA seperate military review of the Sept 16 shootings concluded that all the killings were unjustified and potentially criminal.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:34 pmYet another thread chock full of hits and his progressive friend’s useless banter. When will you learn that he is a PAID disrupter? He cruises through this blog ALL DAY, more than often the first poster on a thread. He never says anything of substance or fact and manages to goad many of you into inane conversations with his mock civility and pseudo intelectual counter points. His life is lived in sheer terror and EVERY one of his assinine rantings is backed by his overwhelming desire for self preservation and support of our most corrupt administration. Although he is a wiley troll (sticks to the topic and remains civil) his troll sh*t none the less stinks just as bad as any of the other resident flying monkeys. Do you think you will change his mind? Do you think new visitors to this blog will glean insight from these ridiculous postings? Do you think they will actually RETURN when EVERY thread is basically a point/counter point with this snivelling fear-filled troll. My theory is that the RNC has a crew of trolls not unlike the seven dwarves: surley, shakey, scaredy, etc. This troll’s main job is to play on the fears that Our Dear Leader would like permanently instilled in us despite the lack of substance or credence to the supposed threat. Like one poster said in a previous thread “you’ve got a better chance of being hit by lightening than to actually be killed by a terrorist.” DON’T TAKE HIS BAIT!
November 14th, 2007 at 1:35 pm44 posts by Hits including #1. Please report abuse because this is an important topic he’s ruined.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:35 pmOn the contrary, I believe Bill Clinton was one of the smartest and most intelligent Presidents we ever had.
Hits
Comment by hits — November 14, 2007 @ 1:29 pm
Smartest AND most intelligent, Hits? Effing brilliant aren’t you?
November 14th, 2007 at 1:38 pmA Patriot Acting,
Quite an interesting theory. Quite irrelevant too.
Hits
November 14th, 2007 at 1:43 pmBlackwater is a honorable organization consisting of heroes from our military.
Blackwater is a for-profit business that pays good soldiers to end their commitment to god and country and carry guns for the benefit of private enterprise instead.
November 14th, 2007 at 2:00 pmHits got deleted. Reporting abuse and emailing the administrators actually works.
November 14th, 2007 at 2:17 pmHITS continually proves himself to be both a liar and a coward. He is a poor excuse for a person. See his first quote.
I am truly amazed that any dissent from this pinhead’s view of the world is tantamount to thought crime. But then other posters start bringing out that Blackwater has hired foreigners with unsavory reputations. Hits begins to wiggle:
Note that we have gone from national heroes who are beyond question to just plain old working Joe’s who are trying to do a job. But what about the fact that these people may have wrongfully used deadly force and killed innocent people? Should we not be concerned? Of course not, because there has to be legal proof.
Gosh, thats better than US soldiers receive over seas where there are Status of Forces Agreements that determine jurisdiction over military personnel accused of a crime. Guess what, in many countries the foreign government can try our military personnel or reserve the right to try our military personnel if the US either does not or cannot take action.
But Hits just shifts his position to keep the argument going. He is not really defending them. He just wants Blackwater to have a fair shake:
November 14th, 2007 at 2:26 pm
I think the final nail in the coffin was when I reported abuse and pointed out that “hits” was responsible for over a third of the posts in this thread.
November 14th, 2007 at 2:27 pmI think the final nail in the coffin was when I reported abuse and pointed out that “hits†was responsible for over a third of the posts in this thread.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
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GMTA
>But he’s willing to ‘try’ them in an US court when he knows damn well that >they been given immunity by the state dept so ‘proof’ is irrelevant.
The state department immunity issue relates only to the statements they made. The main impediment to them being charged in america is that, ironically, america has no jurisdiction over them for crimes they commit in iraq. i believe this was intentional, so they could do things like murder and torture with impunity.
strangely enough, if an american goes overseas and ends up having sex with a 17 year old girl from that country, the american government can charge him with a crime.
November 15th, 2007 at 6:34 amif he kills a 17 year old girl from that country, the american government can take no action against him… f@cked up world we live in, huh?