Greg Sargent reports that the “version of the FISA bill that was just reported out of the Judiciary Committee does not — repeat, does not — contain retroactive immunity for the telecom companies.” Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) had threatened to place a hold on any FISA bill that contained immunity. The Judiciary Committee’s action today renders moot the need for such a hold.
UPDATE: Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI) issued the following statement:
“The FISA legislation reported out of the Senate Judiciary Committee today is a distinct improvement over the legislation passed by the Intelligence Committee last month. Though it still falls short in many areas, the bill includes several significant provisions that will better protect the privacy of innocent Americans. I applaud Senator Leahy for the package of changes he put together, and I appreciate my colleagues’ support in passing two additional amendments that I offered to further enhance privacy protections. I hope that, when the full Senate considers this issue, the Majority Leader brings up the Senate Judiciary Committee bill instead of the badly flawed Intelligence Committee alternative.
“There is still much to be done to fix this bill. In addition, the issue of retroactive immunity for companies that allegedly participated in the President’s warrantless wiretapping program will be fought out on the floor. I will continue to strongly oppose retroactive immunity when the full Senate considers this legislation.
“As a member of both the Intelligence and Judiciary Committees I have been fighting for months to pass a strong FISA bill that adequately protects the privacy of Americans who are not suspected of having done anything wrong. I will oppose and filibuster any bill on the Senate floor that fails this test or contains retroactive immunity.”
UPDATE II: Christy Hardin Smith explains what’s going on.
yes!!! let the lawsuits continue and bring the truth!
November 15th, 2007 at 7:04 pmAbout damn time something went right. Maybe they’ve realized retroactive immunity loses them their jobs. Like, lawmaking? Who would need it anymore. And who would be safe?
November 15th, 2007 at 7:14 pmPresident Pouty Face is going to have a tantrum!
-GSD
November 15th, 2007 at 7:16 pmGood thing they got that troop funding out of the way. We wouldn’t 100,000 DoD employees to be laid off and our troops financially contrained on the battlefield.
Today’s leftist talking point (myth): “The DoD can transfer lots and lots of money between “less urgent” accounts to pay for the war! Yeah, that’s they ticket!”
Fact: Only $3.7 billion_ one week’s worth of funding for the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts_ is said to be available for transfer. And even doing that leaves the DoD in a bureaucratic nightmare.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:17 pmAnd even doing that leaves the DoD in a bureaucratic nightmare.
That might be worth holding up funding right there, pant-load.
A bureaucratic nightmare at DoD could be a good thing. After all, it couldn’t be any worse than the circle-jerk that GDumbya and Darth Cheney have been doing over at DoD for the past 5+ years.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:21 pmGood job, Senator Dodd.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:22 pmHillary for Supreme Court ☺☺☺
Today’s leftist talking point (myth): “The DoD can transfer lots and lots of money between “less urgent†accounts to pay for the war! Yeah, that’s they ticket!â€
Comment by Usual Leftist
Who are you and why are you here? Didn’t your Mom say it was time to go to bed? Climb under your bed and go to sleep. You will be safe there.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:22 pmFEINGOLD is a true Democrat as he is a man of and for the people. I’d love to see him get his teeth into campaign finance reform. It will take a man of independence and principle to eliminate the overwhelming financial influence of big business in our election procress.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:23 pmComment by tom — November 15, 2007 @ 7:21 pm
Good thing your an inbred idiot.
Me too, fellow leftist.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:23 pmFact: Only $3.7 billion_ one week’s worth of funding for the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts_ is said to be available for transfer. And even doing that leaves the DoD in a bureaucratic nightmare.
Comment by Usual Leftist — November 15, 2007 @ 7:17 pm
So you believe that it’s OK for BUSH TO MURDER THOSE TROOPS just to protect HIS EGO? Now THAT IS A STUNT - YOU HATEFUL POS!
Now wonder the MAJORITY OF AMERICANS DON’T TRUST THE GOP WITH OUR NATION’S DEFENSE! You’re INCOMPETENT FOOLS!
November 15th, 2007 at 7:24 pmGood thing your an inbred idiot.
Me too, fellow leftist.
Comment by Usual Leftist — November 15, 2007 @ 7:23 pm
Ah, poor pathetic republican MORON, pretending to be a liberal.
See, poor stupid ‘tard, liberals are smart, and you are stupid, so your pretend posts just show exactly HOW STUPID AND DESPERATE you and your PATHETIC PARTY OF LOSERS IS!
November 15th, 2007 at 7:25 pmUsual Leftist is off topic AND has it all wrong–Wolfowitz promised oil profits would pay for the war the Rumsfeld promised would last 6 days, 6 weeks, certainly not 6 months.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:26 pmComment by StratRat — November 15, 2007 @ 7:22 pm
Taunting. Drawing “troll cartoons.” Evading the subject.
All leftist admissions of failure. Great job, fellow leftist! We’re looking dumber each day.
As leftists, we prove that Democrats are more of the same junk.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:26 pmUL and RHF are at it again. What a shock!
G’night humans.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:27 pmYou too trolls.
Give Dodd credit for this one. Let’s see how far it goes, and what the final product is.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:28 pmPreznit f–kwit is going to have a hissy fit.
Taunting. Drawing “troll cartoons.†Evading the subject.
Comment by Usual Leftist
No. The subject is: Who are you and why are you here? You don’t belong, and it is clear you have nothing to add to an educated discussion. Members of TP do not like having a battle of wits with an unarmed blogger. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:30 pmUsual Leftist is off topic AND has it all wrong–Wolfowitz promised oil profits would pay for the war the Rumsfeld promised would last 6 days, 6 weeks, certainly not 6 months.
Comment by Above the Clouds — November 15, 2007 @ 7:26 pm
Even as a fellow leftist, I have to admit that was a moonbat assertion. Absolutely f_in crazy. We look more and more robotic b
But we claim to support the military. Our true colors are now showing…
November 15th, 2007 at 7:30 pmRuss Feingold is “golden” as his name indicates. He is a true patriot who defends our constitution. I wish he’d consider a run for Pres or Veep because this country definitely needs more honest men like Russ.
Retroactive immunity is not only an absurdity but it is against flagrantly against our constitution. These telecoms, seduced by a leader drunk on his own power, blew it and violated the trust and privacy of their clients. For this, they will lose their shirts and deserve what they get for breaking a major law in this country. I have no pity on the telecoms who betrayed the people whom they serve.
Come on ACLU et al and bring on the lawsuits while Bush stews and steams - soon he’ll have smoke billowing out of his ears….and deservedly so.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:32 pmThis is a “ground zero” issue. If the dems cave, the walkout is imminent, the voter walkout, that is.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:33 pmComment by StratRat — November 15, 2007 @ 7:30 pm
I brought a good subject. It looks as if I’ve struck I nerve.
Don’t say I didn’t warn you about being indifferent, unable to anticipate the consequences of your own actions, fellow leftist.
Also, “StratRat” and “educated discussion” can’t fit in the same sentence.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:34 pm“Fact: Only $3.7 billion_ one week’s worth of funding for the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts_ is said to be available for transfer.”
Link? And “is said to be” by who?
November 15th, 2007 at 7:34 pm#17 It’s quite possible to support the troops - those brave men and women who believed Bush’s lies and found themselves betrayed by him; however, it’s equally possible to not support this war. Every american supports the troops; the majority of americans DO NOT support Bush’s “blood for oil” war.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:35 pmPlease ignore the troll and use the red flag as your revenge. Three trolls have been tossed so far this week. Keep up the good work people, you can clean up this troll problem.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:35 pmlets just wait and see what happens before this session comes to an end….I don’t have my hopes up very high.lets just say the dems haven’t got a good track record right now.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:36 pmOr by whom, for the grammar nazis.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:36 pm#22..>Veritas….thank you…..well said
November 15th, 2007 at 7:37 pmTaking a broad view of this topic of fascist corporatist spying on the American people by the Bush gangsters since they stole our Democracy in 2000, here are a few more words:
Broaden yourself beyond bird-watching and try the exciting new hobby, fascist-watching…
In the back of the last two issues of The Bird Watcher’s Digest, there were articles that suggested the filling your car’s trunk with a variety of natural history guides, including books on variously, insects, mammals, reptiles, wild flowers, shrubs, trees and even rocks and minerals and geology. All to equip you for any natural history questions of identification or understanding which might come up on your driving bird-watching field trips. The articles were trying to broaden the horizons of many traditional bird-watchers, who often watch only birds, and ignore other life forms.
This is all well and good, but I have a modest suggestion on how bird-watchers can really broaden their horizons: by getting into the exciting new world of fascist-watching. Fascists have been springing up in 21st century America like wild mushrooms after a heavy spring rainstorm. Actually, fascist-watching is very easy; you don’t need any binoculars, spotting scopes or field guides; you don’t even have to go outdoors at all; you simply turn on your cable or satellite-fed television set and you will see many fascists, squawking and screaming, fussing and fuming, sliming and smearing, jiving and lying. These fascists can be often spotted on three major corporate propaganda channels, Fox, MSNBC and CNN, which masquerade as “news” channels. If you care to go further afield (so to speak) you may visit some of the many so-called “religious” channels, which are mostly just spewing christo-fascist intolerance and hate for any and all that don’t agree with their every pronouncement… If this doesn’t satisfy your urges for fascist-watching, you can always turn to CSPAN most any afternoon and listen to Ms. Dana Perino, the cute new blonde secretary for the fascist Liar-in-Chief, El Supremo Busho.
As you will soon discover, there are many different kinds of fascists to be seen, beard, identified on television and then added to your “life list.” Christo-fascists, fearmongering-fascists, corporatist-fascists, imperial-fascists, neocon-fascists and war-fascists. Seen ‘em, identify ‘em, collect their images, take some field notes and soon you will be an expert fascist watcher. You may even spot a clucking chickenhawk or two. Then you can give ‘em “the bird”…
November 15th, 2007 at 7:37 pmtheswan: The dems know that this illegal spying on americans as well as retroactive immunity for the telecoms IS the issue that will either win the WH for the dems in 08 or they cave and lose it. It’s all up to them. The people of this country have had enough and will show no mercy when it comes into their living rooms, their backyards, their telephones and computers……There’s a very palpable level of serious anger coursing through the veins of every american regardless of their party affiliation over being spied upon…this is a HUGE issue for both parties vis-a-vis their chances in 08.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:37 pmIllegal spying on americans cuts through party lines (anyone old enough to remember party lines on phones?? No pun intended:)) and is the pivotal issue to salvaging the remnants of the constitution of this country.
Illegal spying is not about Republican or Democrat; in fact, many Reptards have been spied on, no doubt about it.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:40 pmWhat a more nifty method for ensuring that congress forms a line and marches in lockstep behind Bush than implying that they’ve been spied on and their “dirty laundry” is now known and will be used against them. It wasn’t long ago that we called this “blackmail”.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:41 pmSo, has Diane Fienstein posted an amendment for immunity yet?
November 15th, 2007 at 7:44 pm#29>Veritas….I’m counting on that…..so when it comes down to a trial….I’m hoping someone out there has the dirt on the repugs.I know it’s wrong….but sometimes you have to fight fire with fire…it would be poetic justice if this backfired on them.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:44 pmAm i awake or dreaming ? Is this all on the level ?Keep it up democrats and I may even see my faith restored but you’d better keep working for it .
November 15th, 2007 at 7:46 pmA fair days wage for a fair days work ,
Glad to see you’ve got it in you !
we still call it blackmail……..at least back here in the real world.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:46 pmOval 1234: Love it! It’s so incredibly true. That’s why I keep my tube turned off and instead research the net for the facts. I’m sickened by the cavalcade of morons spewing fascists doctrines all day long. Since we don’t know what to believe on any news channel right now, why watch at all? I only have one personal factoid to insert which runs contrary to your comment about Ms. Perino, Bush’s “scapegoat du jour” and that is the descriptive adjective “cute”. I don’t happen to find anything cute or even remotely attractive with a young airhead spewing nonsense and drivel in an attempt to cover for her liar boss every day as though she is doing something relevant or even remotely credible. She’s chattel - like a piece of inocuous furnishing with nothing going on between the ears except that which she is “scripted” to narrate. Ew….Frankly, anyone who takes a job in which they will be required to lie to the american people daily and repeatedly needs a total psychiatric workup to see if they’re even capable of a modicum of sanity. Blond Looney Tune would be a more apt assessment of Ms. Dana Du Jour.
Loved your schtick though. Especially loved the “give ‘em the bird” to which I will add and then retire to have some fun watching the debate tonight……”Give em the bird; vote for a third”. A very serious contendor independent candidate is on the horizon, folks….stay tuned.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:48 pmmudshark: You know that when the telecoms get nervous, there will be songbirds who sing. And some of the singing will be about Republicans; on that you can count. I’m wondering about the swath of Repubs who have suddenly decided to leave office…..say, like FatAssHasturd??
November 15th, 2007 at 7:50 pmVeritas….any hint to who that might be…..and please don’t say Ron Paul.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:50 pmComment by barfly — November 15, 2007 @ 7:34 pm
The U.S. Secretary of Defense. The U.S. Secretary of the Army.
Our servicemen and women can’t afford your politics.
http://ap.google.com/ article/ ALeqM5jHviLgA-6oAnT6tVgNAytnwYr2KwD8SUC6EO2
November 15th, 2007 at 7:50 pmDid they censure DiFi as they’d planned?
November 15th, 2007 at 7:51 pmMy psychic powers are waning tonight but I’d say it will be Al Gore, despite his denials over the months. Al’s always left the door open to possibilities and by the time the new year rolls around and we are left with a sorry lot of candidates, most of whom are “establishment candidates” so it’s the lesser of two evils, I think he may feel compelled to run. I’ve also heard rumor today that Lou Dobbs isn’t ruling it out either. There’s still plenty of time which means “plenty of hope” for all of us that we can right this rapidly sinking fascist ship. Sweet dreams….all….catch ‘ya tomorrow!
November 15th, 2007 at 7:54 pm(anyone old enough to remember party lines on phones?? No pun intended:))
I thought party lines were great as a kid, listening in on the neighbor girls conversations…ok, I was a warped kid. And it was a good pun!
November 15th, 2007 at 7:54 pmI get it. You dems are caving into Desiree Fairooz. Desiree FaiROOOZ, an indicted psychopath.
I didn’t know you dems get your marching orders directly from Code Pinko. Speaks volumes about your education.
No matter. Even if you lose 100,000 more DoD votes, you’ve got all of those convicted felons, whose vote you’ve worked hard to restore, knowing they’ll all vote for you in packs.
Gotcha.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:55 pmOf course they didn’t censure DiFi yet. The CA Dem party is blocking it, because they know what their party wants more than their party.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:55 pmConvicts can’t vote stupid fu*k.
Think Progress, clean this sh!t off of your website.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:56 pmThanks, Left Coast Mike! It was typed before I realized what I’d typed. Cutting across party lines….that it does. Wasn’t it a huge pain in the arss though when you wanted to make a call? I remember it well.
November 15th, 2007 at 7:57 pm“The U.S. Secretary of Defense. The U.S. Secretary of the Army.”
Excuse me, but they don’t have the credibility they once had. Yet you continue to genuflect at every new administration pronouncement; very strange behavior this late in the war. One could make the case that since you’ve been so thoroughly deceived before, questioning their judgements now would amount to a tacit admission of your past bad judgement.
“Our servicemen and women can’t afford your politics.”
Oh, irony! I get it!
That’s another piece of wingnut irony
November 15th, 2007 at 7:59 pmSpudge: I thought the censure was a done deal yesterday. If these sorry dems don’t become vertebrate soon, they’ll become an unrecognizable, smarmy inosseous blob of gelatinous adipose and superficial fascia!
November 15th, 2007 at 7:59 pmComment by Spudge Boy — November 15, 2007 @ 7:56 pm
Your party has worked to restore their voting rights after a period of time.
(Heh, then you people rail against criminals….)
November 15th, 2007 at 7:59 pmComment by barfly — November 15, 2007 @ 7:59 pm
Your tactics will backfire, don’t worry, and it’ll show at the polls.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:00 pmAs the Senate Judiciary Committee prepared to debate the renewal of FISA revisions made in August, President Bush and his Republican allies in Congress are endorsing a unique double-standard when it comes to immunity for telecommunications firms. Within the United States, they argue, service providers such as AT&T and Verizon must cooperate with U.S. government demands for access to Americans’ electronic communications and should be immune from citizens’ lawsuits. But in China and elsewhere, as Republican reaction to this week’s Yahoo saga suggests, not so much.
For the details, see:
November 15th, 2007 at 8:00 pm“FISA, Yahoo and the GOP Double-Standard on Telecom Immunity.”
Spudge: “Of course they didn’t censure DiFi yet. The CA Dem party is blocking it, because they know what their party wants more than their party.”
I may be wrong about this, but I think it is California Democrats who are actually calling for the censure. Among Dems, Bush currently enjoys a whopping 9% approval rating in California.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:01 pmComment by Veritas — November 15, 2007 @ 7:57 pm
Especially during my teen years, damned girls next door would never get off the line. I guess that was why I listened in on conversations.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:02 pmRuss feingold , THANK YOU , you make me proud .
November 15th, 2007 at 8:02 pmCan you have a word with chuck schumer ,I used to like him too ..
“Your tactics will backfire, don’t worry, and it’ll show at the polls.”
Comment by Usual Leftist
More irony, in that it was just a short year ago that all wingnuts were making the same pronouncements about the mid-term.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:02 pmComment by Spudge Boy — November 15, 2007 @ 7:56 pm
Censorship much?
November 15th, 2007 at 8:04 pmComment by barfly — November 15, 2007 @ 8:02 pm
Excessive use of literary terms.
You should be fined for arrogant righteousness, leftist. All proceeds will go towards the salary and benefits, aiding affected DoD employees laid off as a result of Democrat funding incompetence.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:06 pmCapt Jack
November 15th, 2007 at 8:07 pmIf they censure Di feinstein I’ll humbly admit theyv’e done something I can get behind ……. TWICE in a row which is a new record !
But I will still hold their feet to the fire unless they continue the trend . Too much is at stake here and business as usual will no longer fly .
Keep em honest .
Yee ha! Way to go Democrats. They may actually be finding their spines. Perhaps they have finally come to realize that the majority of the people in this country are behind them and want them to start standing up to Bully Boy Bush. That means both the House and Senate versions DO NOT contain immunity for the Telcoms. It looks like our calls and letters had the desired effect!
November 15th, 2007 at 8:08 pmNow on to mordor………..
November 15th, 2007 at 8:09 pmWe leftists want to run the government, every aspect of.
We will take no criticism. We will fire who ever we want. No problem, we have our government lawyers to get us off the hook.
We leftists crave power. We are all a little snippy pack of Dwight Schrutes.
We are the majority. We are the majority. Only registered progressives will have jobs. All others will be forced to “live in their mother’s basement’s” just to fulfill our clownish “troll narratives.”
Democratic principles aren’t the problem. We, the nutty commenters on this site who claim to represent them, are.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:11 pmFact: Only $3.7 billion_ one week’s worth of funding for the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts_ is said to be available for transfer. And even doing that leaves the DoD in a bureaucratic nightmare.
Comment by Usual Leftist
So loon rightist (you are certainly no leftist). Please prove what you are saying here. A link to a reputable source will suffice. And if you can’t prove what you are saying, STFU!
November 15th, 2007 at 8:11 pmMany second- and third-tier law firms will now be looking for the sudden fame and prestige that attains to such a showy trial. I’ll bet the legal backwaters are roiling at the opportunity to “make their bones” on the national stage by suing the telecoms.
There’s PR gold in them thar’ hills.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:13 pmRuss Feingold is “golden†as his name indicates. He is a true patriot who defends our constitution. I wish he’d consider a run for Pres or Veep because this country definitely needs more honest men like Russ.
What I would love to see is Feingold leaving the Democratic party and starting a new “Progressive Party”. Then he should run for President and bring Jim Webb with him as his Vice President. What a dynamic duo that would be.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:14 pmFreedom of speech doesn’t cover fascist who are trying to destroy my country. I took an oath and I still live by it. You are a domestic enemy.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:16 pmComment by bilbobaggins — November 15, 2007 @ 8:11 pm
I provided links. Since “STFU” is only one of the 25 words you’re able to write and read, it’s no surprise you didn’t locate it.
Does blabbing “STFU” give you a good adrenaline rush, fellow leftist? If so, ask if your local high school will take you back.
http://www.wral.com/news/political/story/2049440/
November 15th, 2007 at 8:17 pm“So loon rightist (you are certainly no leftist). Please prove what you are saying here. A link to a reputable source will suffice. And if you can’t prove what you are saying, STFU!”
Comment by bilbobaggins
The link he provided says this:
Gates Jawbones Hill on War Spending
By The Associated Press – 2 hours ago
GATES’ THREAT: Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Thursday that unless Congress passes funding for the Iraq war within days, he will direct the Army and Marine Corps to begin developing plans to lay off employees and terminate contracts early next year.
Now, give the troll the benefit of bad reader comprehension: he suggests it says Gates only has enough cash for a couple months - yet the article only says that Gates “will begin developing plans” in a few months without the funding - not that he’ll run out of money at that time. Big difference.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:18 pmSorry, but you would be wrong. It is not the CA Dems calling for censure.
Looky here
November 15th, 2007 at 8:18 pmNo, but seeing you tried for treason would be a rush.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:19 pmThe U.S. Secretary of Defense. The U.S. Secretary of the Army.
Our servicemen and women can’t afford your politics.
http://ap.google.com/ article/
Comment by Usual Leftist
Your source is Gates. Yeah right, like he’s going to tell the truth. Now if the source was the Congressional Budget Office (the only non partisan office in government left), I might believe it. But just because Gates says so, not buying it.
Actually, the Democrats have a perfect solution to the war funding problem. Give Bush just enough money to keep the troops safe and cut all funding for the contractors. That will bring our troops home rapidly! And the Republicans won’t be able to say that we don’t “support the troops”. Nope, we just don’t support the mercenaries.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:20 pmAnd his other link says the same thing.
Damn that home-schooling! They can’t even read a news article correctly.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:21 pmLook, I’m a forward thinking (Vietnam, WAH! WAH!), highly educated at a “top-tier” school (Look at what I learned - STFU, STFU, STFU!) and I am an upscale leftists. I need power, and I want it.
It’s not that what I’m seeing is an outrage. It’s that I, the minority leftist, don’t have the power to do it myself. That resonates among my fellow leftists.
Sincerely,
Usual Leftist
November 15th, 2007 at 8:21 pmB.S., STFU
Ready to admit your poor reader comp, UL?
November 15th, 2007 at 8:22 pmDid they censure DiFi as they’d planned?
Comment by Veritas
That is supposed to happen this weekend. I used to live in California and from what I hear the people of California are more than pissed at Diane. She better be planning on retirement because there is no way she will be re-elected in 2010.
My theory is that she is allowing her true colors to come out (corporate whore who loves to funnel money to her hubby) because she doesn’t plan on running again. When I lived in California I never voted for Diane Feinstein. I wanted to vote for someone who challenged her, but no one ever stepped up to the plate.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:23 pmDoes blabbing “STFU†give you a good adrenaline rush, fellow leftist? If so, ask if your local high school will take you back.
http://www.wral.com/news/political/story/2049440/
Comment by Usual Leftist — November 15, 2007 @ 8:17 pm
Does spreading stupid comments give you a rush, rightie? Or is your daddy’s winkie that does that for you?
November 15th, 2007 at 8:23 pmLook, I’m a forward thinking (Vietnam, WAH! WAH!), highly educated at a “top-tier†school (Look at what I learned - STFU, STFU, STFU!) and I am an upscale leftists. I need power, and I want it.
It’s not that what I’m seeing is an outrage. It’s that I, the minority leftist, don’t have the power to do it myself. That resonates among my fellow leftists.
Sincerely,
Usual Leftist
B.S., STFU
Comment by Usual Leftist — November 15, 2007 @ 8:21 pm
Poor undereducated right wingnut nuts, with their education and intellectual envy - how typical! They’re the minority party, and the MAJORITY of Americans disagree with them on VIRTUALLY EVERY POLICY, yet they whine, moan and piss about how liberals are the minority! AH THE IRONY! Reality has a liberal bias, and it’s unkind to you Usual Rightist Hack!
November 15th, 2007 at 8:25 pmComment by barfly — November 15, 2007 @ 8:21 pm
The present Secretary of Defense has great credibility. You haven’t proven otherwise. Offering an accurate assessment , as opposed to your 9AM-1AM TP.org leftist diatribe, doesn’t invalidate his assessment.
Since you seem intent on evading the issue, are you claiming that the department is posturing, that they can operate off of money grown on trees?
November 15th, 2007 at 8:26 pmBut, the republocratic party is in control.
74% of America wants us the fu*k out of Iraq and 55% want Bush Impeached. That isn’t happening.
The number of CA Democrats that want DiFi impeached is high also, but that isn’t going to happen either.
We will just have to keep listening to the fascists like the dumb fu*k troll in this thread as they destroy our nation one piece at a time.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:26 pmSo, to review: Ul attempted to assert that the military only has enough cash for a couple months - yet the articles he cites both say something completely different. When this is pointed out to him, he ignores it.
By this standard, he’s no leftist, usual or not. We take the time to actually read things.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:26 pmComment by republicans hate facts — November 15, 2007 @ 8:25 pm
I know that 100% of Americans disagree with you — you’re a confirmed psychopath, a permanent minority. You just want us to know that through the prism of your political ramblings. A Democrat vs. Republican issue, you don’t get to hide behind, moonbat.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:28 pm“Since you seem intent on evading the issue, are you claiming that the department is posturing, that they can operate off of money grown on trees?”
Comment by Usual Leftist
Your assertion was just debunked. The articles say that Gates will begin making contingency plans in a few months, not (as you wrongfully asserted) that they will actually run out of money at this time. Why is that so hard for you to grok?
November 15th, 2007 at 8:29 pmLast week, DiFi said she favored telcom immunity. Getting her to switch her vote on immunity was a huge victory for the Courage Campaign and other pro-censure advocates.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:31 pmComment by barfly — November 15, 2007 @ 8:26 pm
They’re running out of money, and quick. Of course, their will be minor differences of opinion by the accountants, but the fact is that DoD operations will start feeling the strain — very soon, if not now.
But everything is ok, according to us lefties. We just love being drama queens, regardless of the cost to DoD. It’s just all to jab at BushKKK.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:32 pmfrom upthread: Today’s leftist talking point (myth): “The DoD can transfer lots and lots of money between “less urgent†accounts to pay for the war! Yeah, that’s they ticket!â€
Fact: Only $3.7 billion_ one week’s worth of funding for the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts_ is said to be available for transfer. And even doing that leaves the DoD in a bureaucratic nightmare.
Comment by Usual Leftist —
Where did you pull this 3.7 billion figure from? It’s not in either of your cited links.
Making sh*t up again, I see.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:33 pmI know that 100% of Americans disagree with you — you’re a confirmed psychopath, a permanent minority. You just want us to know that through the prism of your political ramblings. A Democrat vs. Republican issue, you don’t get to hide behind, moonbat.
Comment by Usual Leftist — November 15, 2007 @ 8:28 pm
Bahaha, poor stupid Wingnut, can’t even keep up with your own little lie!!! Your assertion is guaranteed to be wrong, as is your opinion - but that won’t change you from avoiding the sad news that reality has a liberal bias - and that you’re an ignorant toad.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:34 pmThey’re running out of money, and quick. Of course, their will be minor differences of opinion by the accountants, but the fact is that DoD operations will start feeling the strain — very soon, if not now.
But everything is ok, according to us lefties. We just love being drama queens, regardless of the cost to DoD. It’s just all to jab at BushKKK.
Comment by Usual Leftist — November 15, 2007 @ 8:32 pm
Congress has the right to fund, or not fund at their discretion. If bush decides he prefers to murder troops, than bring them home, then that’s on Bush’s head - and the head of lunatic supporters such as yourself!
November 15th, 2007 at 8:35 pmThey’re running out of money, and quick. Of course, their will be minor differences of opinion by the accountants, but the fact is that DoD operations will start feeling the strain — very soon, if not now.
I realize this is the closest your highly-partisan brain can come to an apology, so I’ll quit beating you up for your poor reading comprehension.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:35 pmComment by barfly — November 15, 2007 @ 8:29 pm
There should be no contigency plans. You should be providing the vital funding. Think that’s a fallback argument for you..employees forced to be laid off?
Yet, the 109th “do nothing” congress seemed to do pretty well in funding the troops. A “do nothing” title correction is in the works.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:36 pmSince you seem intent on evading the issue, are you claiming that the department is posturing, that they can operate off of money grown on trees?
Comment by Usual Leftist — November 15, 2007 @ 8:26 pm
It doesn’t need to grow on trees, it’s the constitutional duty for it to be allocated by Congress. If they don’t allocate, the president doesn’t have a right to it - PERIOD!
November 15th, 2007 at 8:36 pmI know that 100% of Americans disagree with you — Comment by Usual Leftist — November 15, 2007
You are delusional. 63% of Americans want the US out; 72% of the troops in Iraq want the US out; 71% of Iraqis want the U.S. militrary out; and 75% of Americans think Bush is a bad president. So… who’s in the minority?
You rightwingers had it all — the White House, both houses of Congress, and Supreme Court — and what did you do? You threw it all away, acheiving nothing but a nightmarish military fiasco, and now you’ve spoiled your party’s brand for years and years to come. You can forget about the legacy of Reagan: from now on, the GOP is identified with military disaster and fiscal idiocy. Suck it up.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:37 pmComment by barfly — November 15, 2007 @ 8:35 pm
Do your job and provide the funding, little girl. How’s that so hard for you to understand? This country doesn’t run on Code Pink finger-painted protests and leftist drivel.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:37 pmYet, the 109th “do nothing†congress seemed to do pretty well in funding the troops. A “do nothing†title correction is in the works.
Comment by Usual Leftist — November 15, 2007 @ 8:36 pm
Yeah, forget the legislation to raise the minimum wage, or the legislation to help give health insurance to poor children! Just because Bush DOES NOTHING and VETOES the legislation, doesn’t mean Congress did nothing - it meant the REPUBLICANS DID NOTHING - you POOR STUPID LITTLE ‘TARD!
November 15th, 2007 at 8:37 pmDo your job and provide the funding, little girl. How’s that so hard for you to understand? This country doesn’t run on Code Pink finger-painted protests and leftist drivel.
Comment by Usual Leftist — November 15, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
Ah, poor little homophobe - what exactly about YOURSELF do you loathe again Craig? Is that why you are feigning care for the big bad military - SELF FEAR?
Actually Congress has a right to CHOOSE what to fund or not, it’s their job to DECIDE, not to ALLOCATE ON YOUR DEMAND, little girl!
November 15th, 2007 at 8:38 pmAnd what does the polling this week say? That the public wants the Democrats to decide. So STFU cowardly Republican!
“Which political party — the Democrats or the Republicans — do you trust to do a better job handling the situation in Iraq?”
November 15th, 2007 at 8:40 pmDemocrats Republicans
50 34
This country doesn’t run on Code Pink finger-painted protests and leftist drivel.
It doesn’t run on the bile of spit-flecked, beet-faced blowhards like you, either. It runs on representative democracy. Dig it!
November 15th, 2007 at 8:40 pmComment by republicans hate facts — November 15, 2007 @ 8:38 pm
Your 9PM straightjacket session is upcoming, twat.
Last time America checked, you’re incompetent to decide nor opine on anything.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:40 pm“Do your job and provide the funding, little girl.”
I’m sorry if you can’t read any better, but you should direct your ire at the folks who allowed you to reach adulthood without the necessary reading skills - your parents.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:41 pmHe called me a beet face.
Baddie powder.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:41 pm“Do you think the United States should keep its military forces in Iraq until civil order is restored there, even if that means continued U.S. military casualties; OR, do you think the United States should withdraw its military forces from Iraq in order to avoid further U.S. military casualties, even if that means civil order is not restored there?”
Keep Forces Withdraw Forces
43% 54%
That’s right, the Majority of Americans want the troops out PERIOD!
November 15th, 2007 at 8:41 pmYour 9PM straightjacket session is upcoming, twat.
Last time America checked, you’re incompetent to decide nor opine on anything.
Comment by Usual Leftist — November 15, 2007 @ 8:40 pm
Ah, the poor rightwing ‘tard can’t handle that he’s a shrill out of touch minority - so now he’s decided that he’s both sexist and homophobic!
Yep, that’s the classic GOP bringer of hate, bigotry, ignorance and stupidity we’ve all come to expect!
November 15th, 2007 at 8:42 pmLast time America checked…
You speak for America? Har har har!! This demonstrates why rightwingers can’t achieve squat: they live in Fantasyland.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:43 pmHe called me a beet face.
Baddie powder.
Comment by Usual Leftist — November 15, 2007 @ 8:41 pm
Well, with that monkey butt/face of yours - it’s kinda hard to tell which is your face isn’t it fat boy Mr. Pee?
November 15th, 2007 at 8:43 pmComment by koko the talking gorilla — November 15, 2007 @ 8:40 pm
To you, it’s a “representative democracy” the few times leftocrats win. Other than that, it’s “you stole it from me! WAH!”
Loser leftist.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:43 pm“He called me a beet face.
Baddie powder.”
Comment by Usual Leftist
What are you drinking - so I can stay away from it?
November 15th, 2007 at 8:43 pmYou speak for America? Har har har!! This demonstrates why rightwingers can’t achieve squat: they live in Fantasyland.
Comment by koko the talking gorilla — November 15, 2007 @ 8:43 pm
When your head is buried firmly in your fat @ss like Mr. Pee’s is, what can you expect other than asphyxiation induced hallucinations!
November 15th, 2007 at 8:44 pmTo you, it’s a “representative democracy†the few times leftocrats win. Other than that, it’s “you stole it from me! WAH!â€
Loser leftist.
Comment by Usual Leftist — November 15, 2007 @ 8:43 pm
You mean like the current situation where Democrats are IN CHARGE, and all the GOP can muster is OBSTRUCTIONISM? That kind of DEMOCRACY?
Or were you referring to the almost 50 years of Democratic rule, compared to the 12 years of Republican rule that collapsed faster than Craig in a stall!
BAHAHAHAHA, yeah, you keep Dreaming Fat Boy!
November 15th, 2007 at 8:45 pmYeah, this is terribly unpopular!!!
BHAHAA, Mr. Pee, AS STUPID AS EVER!
“Do you think Democrats in Congress have gone too far or not far enough in opposing the war in Iraq?”
Too Far Not Far Enough
November 15th, 2007 at 8:46 pm35 55
Comment by barfly — November 15, 2007 @ 8:41 pm
It’s all perfectly clear, barfy.
It you decided to twist the Secretary’s words it’s not my problem, nor that of my parents.
The Secretary needs the funding, his department needs to run. The troops have operations to cover in the field. Contingency plans have only a temporary effect as a stop-gap.
Who has the reading comprension again, barfy?
November 15th, 2007 at 8:47 pmat least as bad as the immunity provision were the unconstitutional provisions for blanket warrants. Although obscure, preventing blanket warrants is probably more important than preventing retroactive immunity.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:47 pm.
Back on topic, there are many second- and third-tier law firms who’ll be gearing up to take on the telecoms, lookin to make their bones on a high-profile case such as this. Ya’ gotta love that capitalist system - especially when it’s used against capitalist toadys.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:47 pmEveryone, please flag post 102 so that the administrators purge this @sshole again? Will everyone be so kind?
The troll droppings from Mr. Pee is stinking up the place again with his incredible stupidity!
November 15th, 2007 at 8:48 pmBush’s nightmare is just beginning. That arrogant prick will rue the day he stole the White House. Now that the GOP Senate has split with Bush on health care, his whole house is going to come crashing down.
Will he have total psychotic meltdown? It may get scary.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:48 pmThe Secretary needs the funding, his department needs to run. The troops have operations to cover in the field. Contingency plans have only a temporary effect as a stop-gap.
Who has the reading comprension again, barfy?
Comment by Usual Leftist — November 15, 2007 @ 8:47 pm
No, the Secretary WANTS the funding, Congress DECIDES what the Secretary NEEDS - MORON!
November 15th, 2007 at 8:48 pmComment by republicans hate facts — November 15, 2007 @ 8:46 pm
11 mins. until your straightjacket, ‘MichaelIsRetarded’ hates America.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:48 pm11 mins. until your straightjacket, ‘MichaelIsRetarded’ hates America.
Comment by Usual Leftist — November 15, 2007 @ 8:48 pm
BAHAHAHA, poor Mr. Pee, with his fat head stuck up his fat @ss, yet again, is lecturing others on why they should wear HIS STRAITJACKET - a word he CAN’T SPELL, but that he SURE DOES NEED!
November 15th, 2007 at 8:49 pm“It you decided to twist the Secretary’s words it’s not my problem, nor that of my parents.”
Yeah, your college instructors were just thrilled with the job your parents did home-schooling you. Can you spell “remedial education?” I know that you can!
November 15th, 2007 at 8:49 pm11 mins. until your straightjacket, ‘MichaelIsRetarded’ hates America.
Comment by Usual Leftist — November 15, 2007 @ 8:48 pm
Oh, and michael/Mr. Pee - YOU ARE RETARDED!
November 15th, 2007 at 8:50 pm“Who has the reading comprension again, barfy?”
Comment by Usual Leftist —
I just proved that…
November 15th, 2007 at 8:51 pmYeah, your college instructors were just thrilled with the job your parents did home-schooling you. Can you spell “remedial education?†I know that you can!
Comment by barfly — November 15, 2007 @ 8:49 pm
That explains why he keeps trying to use words, phrases and concepts he doesn’t understand! That poor fat, stupid little bigot! What his father must have done to him as a little boy for him to turn out to be such a hateful f88k!
November 15th, 2007 at 8:51 pmComment by republicans hate facts — November 15, 2007 @ 8:48 pm
Congress also thinks the Secretary can just “transfer money” between accounts, when that would pay for one week of the conflicts. Democrats are living in fantasy land, writing legislation off moveon.org and the nastiest of code pink.
Democrats have no idea what they’re talking about, neither do they understand burdens they’ve placed on the DoD.
If the problem accelerates, I’m warning you leftists that it will not reflect on you favorably. That goes without saying.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:52 pmComment by barfly — November 15, 2007 @ 8:51 pm
Shatchafaceyaoldcoot.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:54 pmCongress also thinks the Secretary can just “transfer money†between accounts, when that would pay for one week of the conflicts. Democrats are living in fantasy land, writing legislation off moveon.org and the nastiest of code pink.
Democrats have no idea what they’re talking about, neither do they understand burdens they’ve placed on the DoD.
If the problem accelerates, I’m warning you leftists that it will not reflect on you favorably. That goes without saying.
Comment by Usual Leftist — November 15, 2007 @ 8:52 pm
BAHAHA, you WHINE about the Democrats not knowing what they’re talking about - as they fulfill both their constitutional and elected duties to represent the people?
You’re WARNING US? BAHAHAHA, what, that maybe when our Democratic leadership grows some b@lls, that they’ll steamroll you in 2008?
yep, you should warn us, to remind us exactly why listening to LOSERS LIKE YOU is a BAD IDEA - You Fat Stupid little bigot!
November 15th, 2007 at 8:55 pmI’m warning you leftists…
Um, thank you for your concern. Anything else?
November 15th, 2007 at 8:55 pmShatchafaceyaoldcoot.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:55 pmComment by Usual Leftist — November 15, 2007 @ 8:54 pm
suckyourdadysdickeverynight?
“Democrats have no idea what they’re talking about, neither do they understand burdens they’ve placed on the DoD.”
I’m still waiting for you to provide a link to your “3.7 billion dollar” assertion.
Did you get it from Rush? Is that why you can’t back it up?
November 15th, 2007 at 8:55 pmbarfy has offered nothing plasible here tonight. It’s just old, cantankerous, and is on a smear campaign.
Too bad he’ll never be hired to be the Secretary of Defense.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:55 pmUm, thank you for your concern. Anything else?
Comment by koko the talking gorilla — November 15, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
Advice from a ‘tarded Republican - yeah we all know how ACCURATE those fools are! What a moron!
November 15th, 2007 at 8:56 pmPlease, folks, ignore the troll. Report it for abuse.
Remember the topic: Judiciary Committee strips telecom immunity from FISA bill.
November 15th, 2007 at 8:58 pmbarfy has offered nothing plasible here tonight. It’s just old, cantankerous, and is on a smear campaign.
Too bad he’ll never be hired to be the Secretary of Defense.
Comment by Usual Leftist — November 15, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
Mr. Pee is projecting is own incompetence against others. Too bad he’ll never be competent enough to hold down any job that requires human interactions! How long do they give you on the computer in prison anyway - ‘tard?
November 15th, 2007 at 8:59 pm“Too bad he’ll never be hired to be the Secretary of Defense.”
Comment by Usual Leftist
Or did your mom get frustrated with your lack of focus and just do your homework for you? With such a lack of reading skills one would wonder how you function in the day-to-day world - trust-fund baby?
November 15th, 2007 at 8:59 pmComment by barfly — November 15, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
It’s directly in the article. Thanks for bothering not to read it, then commenting on an empty tank.
Here, I’ll be a gentlemen and supply it to you again.
http://www.wral.com/news/political/story/2049440/
Paragraph 5 contains the $3.7 billion figure.
Pot, meet the “reading comprehension” kettle.
November 15th, 2007 at 9:00 pmbarfy has offered nothing plasible here tonight…
Vwersus you, who has left pile after stinkin’ pile of steaming turd crap on the podium? What a worthless bowl of dog snot you must be. It must really suck to be you.
November 15th, 2007 at 9:00 pmIf this bill gets through the full Senate, will Dubya veto it because it doesn’t contain the immunity?
November 15th, 2007 at 9:02 pmIt’s directly in the article. Thanks for bothering not to read it, then commenting on an empty tank.
Here, I’ll be a gentlemen and supply it to you again.
http://www.wral.com/news/political/story/2049440/
Paragraph 5 contains the $3.7 billion figure.
Pot, meet the “reading comprehension†kettle.
Comment by Usual Leftist — November 15, 2007 @ 9:00 pm
Congress decides, and they represent the will of the people - no matter what you and your neo-nazi neo-fascists tendencies prefer, Mr. Pees on himself because he’s fat and stupid!
November 15th, 2007 at 9:02 pmComment by barfly — November 15, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
Yep, lack of reading skills, coming from one who can’t even read “$3.7 billion” in a linked article without me pointing out the paragraph which it’s contained.
Please, teach the world about “reading comprehension,” barfy.
November 15th, 2007 at 9:04 pmComment by koko the talking gorilla — November 15, 2007 @ 9:00 pm
You’re a vitriol robot stuck behind your computer rambling. Just the way Bush wants it.
Must suck to be you.
November 15th, 2007 at 9:05 pm“Pot, meet the “reading comprehension†kettle.”
Comment by Usual Leftist
Hey, Blackey! Actually that was the second link - your first link said nothing about 3.7 billion, that’s why I asked. And you believe Gates - why? Your assertion that he’d begin terminating contracts in a few months is still debunked, by the way.
November 15th, 2007 at 9:06 pmYep, lack of reading skills, coming from one who can’t even read “$3.7 billion†in a linked article without me pointing out the paragraph which it’s contained.
Please, teach the world about “reading comprehension,†barfy.
Comment by Usual Leftist — November 15, 2007 @ 9:04 pm
Congress decides, that’s the law. Get over it!
You’re a vitriol robot stuck behind your computer rambling. Just the way Bush wants it.
Must suck to be you.
Comment by Usual Leftist — November 15, 2007 @ 9:05 pm
Pure Projection from the vitriol robot! BORING ZZZZZZzzz
It DOES SUCK to be you - that explains your posts - loser!
November 15th, 2007 at 9:07 pmHey, Blackey! Actually that was the second link - your first link said nothing about 3.7 billion, that’s why I asked. And you believe Gates - why? Your assertion that he’d begin terminating contracts in a few months is still debunked, by the way.
Comment by barfly — November 15, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
Mr. Pee is a born liar, and incompetent fool. That’s why he pretended that something was in an article, where it wasn’t. He just enjoys lying.
November 15th, 2007 at 9:08 pm“Mr. Pee is a born liar, and incompetent fool. That’s why he pretended that something was in an article, where it wasn’t. He just enjoys lying.”
To be fair, I missed the 3.7 bil. in the second link - but neither link proves his assertion. They do just the opposite.
November 15th, 2007 at 9:10 pmTo be fair, I missed the 3.7 bil. in the second link - but neither link proves his assertion. They do just the opposite.
Comment by barfly — November 15, 2007 @ 9:10 pm
What, a Republican used a detail to conflate it into an unrelated conclusion? THE SHOCK! ;)
November 15th, 2007 at 9:12 pm“What, a Republican used a detail to conflate it into an unrelated conclusion? THE SHOCK! ;)”
Comment by republicans hate facts
True; he never admitted being wrong - another republican trait.
November 15th, 2007 at 9:26 pmLeftist: It’s clear that you failed the 8th grade grammar level. It’s “whom”…..remember that…..fire whomever we want. And, for the record spelling was not your forte either evidently - whoever/whomever are not two words. What country were your educated in BTW? Clearly, you’re foreign to this one and may come from the 7th planet - you know, Ur-anus??
November 15th, 2007 at 9:26 pmMr. Pee/Leftist/About 500 other equally schizophrenic monikers: Get a life while you’re out educating yourself as well, TrannyDude.
November 15th, 2007 at 9:28 pmComment by Veritas —
Give him some slack, V; he hasn’t replied because those pesky adult diapers are so hard to correctly position. He’ll be back after his Depends break.
November 15th, 2007 at 9:31 pmWow! A wole hal-hour without new ULtroll droppings. Did TP hire an evening moderator, or is it busy whacking off?
November 15th, 2007 at 9:39 pmDamn!!! I’m feeling this strange emotion… a sense of… hope…. and euphoria…
You da Man, Russ, you da Man!!!
DON’T BACK DOWN, Dude!!!
November 15th, 2007 at 9:52 pmNo telecom immunity. That’s the rule of law, right people?
November 15th, 2007 at 9:56 pmIt’s AMAZING how someone who calls themself “Ususal Leftist” sounds like a Nazi azzhole-licker of MURDERER Bush the COXUCKER punk
TRAITOR to the USA.
NOT like a leftist at all…
On a thread about Afghanistan on 7/12, I pointed out that the Bush family have been TREASONOUS to the USA for 70 years, and the Nazi
wrote: “Arn Gunnutes=douchie”. Note post 221:
http://thinkprogress.org/ 2007/ 11/ 10/ deadliest-year-in-afghanistan/
So much for intelligent discourse, and DEFINITELY not how leftists behave, because we THRIVE on INTELLIGENT DISCOURSE.
Don’t even bother to answer the little Nazi azzhole-licker of the TREASONOUS Bush the AWOL coward TRAITOR coxucker PUNK.
Sincerely,
NRA Gun Nutes
November 15th, 2007 at 9:59 pmI don’t live in Wisconsin, but I used to get my T.V. from there. I remember when Russ first ran for office. He said that he intended to be “the conscience of the Senate”. I think he has exceeded his promise and expectations. He’s one of the best people in politics. Possibly the best period!
November 15th, 2007 at 10:00 pmComment by Arn Gunnutes — November 15, 2007 @ 9:59 pm
I think the UL troll has been extirpated, I hope. If so; IT’S ABOUT TIME!
November 15th, 2007 at 10:02 pmI, almost, look forward to it’s reappearance under another name so it can be slapped down again.
Probably this time as “francie”.
Sincerely,
NRA Gun Nutes
November 15th, 2007 at 10:03 pmProbably this time as “francieâ€.
I think “Vichy France-ee”, as I like to call it, may be verboten as well. Methinks that TP is trying to exercise more control during their “pledge drive”. They can’t be pissing off potential donors.
November 15th, 2007 at 10:09 pmBravo to Leahy and Feingold, but Feinstein, Schumer, and Lieberman will jump ship in full Senate vote probably or Bush will veto it anyways. I wish I could be more optimistic, but Dems caving in DC happens all the time.
November 15th, 2007 at 10:24 pmThat drop in DOD funding hits a little too close to psyops home for some of our resident troll(s) methinks…
November 15th, 2007 at 10:43 pmMy question is why after 4 years of this war/occupation are we still funding it with emergency funding bills? Isn’t it time for Bush/DOD to put this in the budget?
November 15th, 2007 at 11:15 pmshit, take all the money from the DOD, let the “secretary” have bake sales. There’s enough left ot get the troops home, where everybody wants them. the DOD needs no more money, they threw away what they had.
November 15th, 2007 at 11:22 pmUsual Leftist. Another reptard bilge-rat with a rhetorical gimmick who’ll post a zillion comments and say nothing at all.
November 16th, 2007 at 12:52 amWHen I read that it took something like 3.7bln to keep the troops in iraq for one WEEK, according to UL, I stopped, and I stared at the number. If this number is true, this is all the reason I need to call for us out of Iraq YESTERDAY.
3.7 bln per week.
At 80,000 per student for a typical 4 year public university, you could put 46,250 students through school for the cost of one week in Iraq.
At $50,000 per year per family, you could pay a decent living wage to 74,000 families for the cost of one week in Iraq.
At $26,000 per year for our budget, you could pay for our expenses and one hundred fourty two thousandthree hundred six other families like us! All for the cost of one week(!!!) in Iraq!
You could give over $3000 a week to every man, woman, and child in the city of Denver every week for the cost of fighting in Iraq.
If you ended the war right now, you could refund $641 per year to every man, woman, and child in America. $641 tax refund for you, your wife, and each child in your family.
THANK YOU, Usual Leftist, for showing in stark terms what a massive money sink this war is. Think about it. $3.7bln. PER WEEK. You could have a lottery where a MILLION winners took home $3700 for that gawd-awful number.
I couldn’t have sunk the Iraq war better if I tried!
November 16th, 2007 at 12:56 amSorry about the bold, I must have missed a closing tag somewhere.
November 16th, 2007 at 12:57 amYeah, but you see, there aren’t any screaming children, no body parts cartwheeling through the air, no AYRABS burning to death in shot-up cars. You see when you need to kill others to feel good about yourself, Jeremy, your plan is just one hell of a bummer. Lift people up instead of blowing them to bits? WASTE OF TIME.
November 16th, 2007 at 1:01 amLET THE LAW BRAKERS, THE CONSTITUTION TRAMPLES TO FACE ACCAOUNTABILITY! YES MR. BUSH, ACCOUNTABILITY! SOON OR LATER IT WILL COME TO YOU AND THE REST OF THE WAR CRIMINALS!
November 16th, 2007 at 1:39 amThe Dems have stones after all! Litlle ones, but they’re there!
November 17th, 2007 at 3:22 pm