Comments on: Civil Rights Protesters Surround The Justice Department, Demand More Focus On Hate Crimes

By: old_hack

old_hack — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:18:14 +0000

I think “hate crime” is a bad idea. its like “terrorism” “hate” its subject to spin. its open to interpretation. It just creates more divide. I love seeing people marching and demanding more rights I’m just sick of reverse racism. Fight fire with water.

I believe in drawing a line. but where you draw that line is what generates that measures success. Do you really believe we can eliminate “Hate”… Hate?.. Well generate more love god damn it.

By: jerseyboyblue

jerseyboyblue — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:18:37 +0000

Daryll, it is clear that you are uneducated abou the causes of poverty and crime. Lack of education, lack of job oppurtunity, and an overwhelming sense of powerlessness. I take it that you don’t have much interaction with black people.

By: JMOHR

JMOHR — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:29:45 +0000

There goes a true racist (Daryll). I grew up in the 50’s and 60’s. I got to see first hand how blacks were treated in the North. Pay disparity, lack of opportunity and just plain prejudice. The South was worse with legally segregated in schools, public accommodation, anti-miscegenation laws, the KKK and (my favorite) nooses to intimidate. One would naturally think that it would take a several generations to overcome the disabilities in education, social connection and racism. Daryll’s attitude just proves the problem.

By: katy

katy — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:27:33 +0000

did jesus teach you to talk like that?
such a fraud you are…

By: VerbalKint

VerbalKint — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:24:48 +0000

Abby,

Clearly you don’t understand the legal notion of a hate crime. First, the act commited must be illegal under our laws, regardless of the victim or intent. Second, it must be categorized as a type of crime to which the hate-crime statute is to be applied. Typically this means violent crimes against a person: assault, murder, etc. Only then can a hate-crime statute be applied. To apply the statute would require showing that the victim belonged to a protected class (e.g. racial minority, gay) and demonstrating that hate against that class was the motive for the crime. Your notion that merely hating something will be outlawed has no legal connection whatsoever to the purpose or design of hate-crime laws.

By: Bartolo

Bartolo — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:51:03 +0000

On the low number of hate crimes prosecuted by the Bush league Justice Dept., just think if it were being done by a Dem administration. The Wurlitzer would be going crazy. As it is this will be old news tomorrow.

By: foolme1ns

foolme1ns — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:11:38 +0000

Another veto threat from Mr. Relevancy. So apparently he is relevant if he is against sick children, victims of hate crimes, veterans, the poor, the elderly, in general, the American people, but FOR retroactive immunity for criminal corporations.

So in Bush world, criminals = good, sick children = bad. Republican values baffle me.

By: katy

katy — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:27:50 +0000

excellent job…

that one should be bannished for good…

thanks!

g’nite…

By: katy

katy — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 04:56:21 +0000

attention please…

we need a clean up of aisles 14 thru 17 please…

thank you.

By: katy

katy — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 04:22:29 +0000

no maher tonight… found this on the site… appropos to this:

New Rule:
“In America, it’s not the haves and have-nots.
It’s the haves and the been-hads.”

By: katy

katy — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 04:11:02 +0000

not able to read the comments… maher is on any minute…

i just want to say HOO-RAAAAH for this action!

and TP – the next antiwar/peace march had better get, on this site,
at LEAST the same amount of space, in the same timely manner,
as this civil rights march is getting now…
thanks…
…

maybe no maher tonight…
later, maybe…

By: Xisithrus

Xisithrus — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 04:05:05 +0000

Cmon now, the DOJ needs to spend more time making powerpoint presentations and helping the repubs win elections they cant be bothered with this stuff

/snark

By: MapleStreet

MapleStreet — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:54:01 +0000

Unfortunately, I’m sure the Shrub mafia has reported this as them being so effective against crime – after all, there’s a 70% drop in hate crime.

By: Abby

Abby — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:49:37 +0000

Abby, do you know the difference between hate and a hate crime? Because it sure seems like you donâ€™t. They are quite different things.

Comment by Lefty Patriot â€” November 16, 2007 @ 9:27 pm
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As I understand this:

(1) Hate, today, would be a degrading depiction of the Prophet Mohammad.

(2) Hate crime would be when our greatest ever deliberating legislative body in History had declared such depictions illegal, against the law and prescribed a penalty for which is now deemed a crime.

Is there anything more to it than that? I’d like to know. I don’t come here to issue a final decree. I come here to give my 2 cents and collect everybody else’s 2 cents.

Peace.

By: Jay Randal

Jay Randal — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:58:12 +0000

Lots of problems in the US now, but this is what happens when fascist leaders like Bush gain power > everything goes down the tubes. Expect things to get worse next year. Heck the drought in Georgia might result in Atlanta having no potable water, thus massive panic, and the first big city in America to be put under martial law.

By: joe cantwell

joe cantwell — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:35:28 +0000

andromeda dude,

it’s big, but not as big as….

dreamcrusher’s ego!

right, dc?

By: Lefty Patriot

Lefty Patriot — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:27:06 +0000

Abby, do you know the difference between hate and a hate crime? Because it sure seems like you don’t. They are quite different things.

By: had enough

had enough — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:17:59 +0000

Sheila Jackson Lee one of my favorites.
The lack of interest, funds, respect towards Katrina victims by this current administration speaks volumes and may have been the turning point for many. Actions, or lack of, speak louder that words.
I am in support of the demonstrations and feel they are justified.
But the bigger picture: We have huge class issues in which the black race is included.

By: Abby

Abby — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:42:15 +0000

This is an important issue and needs to be addressed in the larger context of what kind of a society we have degenerated into or at least what we’re headed towards BUT the hate crime bill is NOT the answer.

If anything it’s a slippery slope leading straight to Hell. What about hate towards Muslims or my hate towards jesus-freaks, or the nutjob’s hate for liberals or Bush’s hate for Iran or the world’s hate for Bush. What qualifies as a hate crime in what case? Who decides? Muslims find any depictions of the Prophet Mohammad offensive and degrading depictions, positively hateful. What about a law against that? You get the idea.

A really wish a propaganda pushed Republican-kind of quick fix “solution” is avoided at all costs. This is NOT a Black or White issue, no pun intended.

OK, fine, pun intended but you know what I mean.

By: ForTruth

ForTruth — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:30:42 +0000

Hey Andromeda dude,

I read about that earlier, and I wonder what the universe has in store. Maybe those Russian cult freaks know something. LOL.