“I don’t see any reason why we should have had this massive press interest in what’s going on,” Stevens said. “It’s just an investigation of a federal agency. They go on all the time.” TPM has more. (HT: Hotline)
“I don’t see any reason why we should have had this massive press interest in what’s going on,†Stevens said.
Yes, of course…since corrupt politicians are a dime a dozen, right, Stevens?
Any Congresscritter, regardless of party affiliation, who is convicted of misusing their office for personal or political gain should be taken out back and shot twice in the head. You’d see these crooks straighten up in a hurry…
“I don’t see any reason why we should have had this massive press interest in what’s going on,†Stevens said. “It’s just an investigation of a federal agency. They go on all the time.â€
I mean, after all, this is still the Bush administration. Dude, where’s my bridge?
Yeah, if this had involved a blow job between consenting adults, I’m sure Mr. Stevens would admit that it’s worth 24 hour a day blanket coverage, special prosecutors, and a $50 million budget for investigations. Criminal corruption and graft just don’t quite measure up to those blow jobs between consenting adults.
Poor Ted Stevens – he once had a mind but has now forgotten where he put it! He’s one of the reasons this country needs term limits. This sad old fool should have been gone long ago.
Stevens has a point… his type of corruption is pretty standard for Republicans. What’s the big fuss?
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — November 16, 2007 @ 1:52 pm
Hell, he may not even be the most corrupt senator in Alaska! Remember Young is having his “issues” as well.
WHY do the people of Alaska send us such a$$Klowns???
Anybody remember Congressman Ventura in the Doonesbury strip back in the late 70’s (he held the CA seat that eventually went to Lacey Davenport)? He was undone by scandal when he was caught screwing his secretary in a motel room. His reaction when he got caught? “But EVERYBODY does it!”
WHY do the people of Alaska send us such a$$Klowns???
Comment by upside99
Because they have become used to living off the dole from the US government. Many people in Alaska live off the checks they get from the government because of the pipeline. They have become fat and rich and just want a politician who will protect their interests, even if it is ripping off the Federal Government. If you are corrupt, what better representative could you have than one who is entirely corrupt too.
“It’s just an investigation of a federal agency. They go on all the time.â€
Apparently, the RNC is in the final stage of its master plan — they’ve lowered the bar on integrity among politicians far enough that they think they can get away with anything. Stevens is planting the first rivet with this casual dismissal of corruption investigations.
I don’t see any reason for the media to be concerned about a “CrooK” who took money for his vote either. Why are they concerned about a Senator who took a bribe? I mean doesn’t the media have better things to do than cover a FBI investigation into bribery, obstruction of justice, lying to investigators all by a sitting United States Senator? What has this country come too? The next thing you know they will be asking Judy Guiliani about his shady dealings with lying, cheating, former nominees for Chief of Homeland Security. Not that Rudy’s crooked business partners who was having an affair in an apartment meant for tired 9-11 recue workers is wrong. It’s not like Fox News asked that lady to lie about the affair to cover up for Rudy or anything.
Amazing how the disease of senile dementia trivializes everything around an individual. Ted Stevens is textbook. “just another investigation….” Perhaps he’s so out of touch mentally that he doesn’t realize they’re investigating him even though they’re crawling all over his house! Wow! This guy is seriously in need of a nursing home room and NOW.
Goodness knows, Shadow, soon they may even begin investigating what Rudy knew and when he knew it regarding 911. After all, it seems to be his main area of expertise. If I were Rudy, I’d be very careful about how much emphasis he’s placing on his 911 experience – the fact is that the public still only knows the tip of the 911 iceberg which is sinking the Bush Titanic and will take Rudy’s little lifeboat down into the eddy with it.
When the dems swiftboat Rudy’s “real 911 experience”, it ain’t going to be a pretty site. The people, upon discovering the truth, will be so bereft and angst-filled that I suspect that there will be a major revolution when the facts are outed. Plenty of dems know the facts – and it’s just a matter of time before the pull out the big ones and sink the GOP.
Poor Ted Stevens – he once had a mind but has now forgotten where he put it! He’s one of the reasons this country needs term limits. This sad old fool should have been gone long ago.
Comment by Veritas — November 16, 2007 @ 1:58 pm
Veritas- I will agree with you about Ted, as I have on most, if not all issues, but not on term limits. I should have a right to vote for whom I wish. Term limits is not a falesafe. Prosecute, impeach or vote out of office those who we find not suitable for office.
Term Limits just offers another avenue for big money to infiltrate politics. Grab another politico coming up the pipeline from the local level with some name recognition. No experience. But name recog. Term-limit the old guy, finance the new. Process starts anew.
Then, you introduce them to an administrative pipeline, well entrenched since the 90’s as Civil Servants, whose job it is to make them understand how it all works. That spells control by the non-elected. That is not democracy.
Comment by leftcoast — November 16, 2007 @ 3:25 pm
I think that term limits would be the simplest way, to avoid the “entitlement factor” in our legislators, though not necessarily the best. A local political science prof proposed this interesting idea:
He proposed that legislators should face an “automatic recall” half way through each term. No campaigning would be allowed. It would be a simple “yes/no vote” based on the legislator’s record and adherence to campaign promises. This would serve to prevent the common practice of voting for personal gain through the first few years followed by a few high profile votes to reclaim support.
BTW, he also proposed that legislators must resign their office to run for another office. This would not stop reelection campaigns, but would prevent “absentee legislators” (I can think of several current candidates who fit this description.) running for other offices.
Regardless, we must find a way to “check and balance” our legislators.
pete,
I think there is merit to the suggestions.
But, do you not think that an “automatic recall” will do nothing more than re-set the clock for more of the same?
Re: “Checks and balances”: it has been the Bush Co. Neocons who have re-constituted the Constitution. The Process of the House and Senate has been ripped apart by the Repubs in the last decade. Until that process is regained it matters not who we elect.
Comment by leftcoast — November 16, 2007 @ 4:06 pm
Perhaps I didn’t do the idea justice. As I understood it, the “automatic recall”, would be like an “employee review”. It would also, as I understood it, provide an opportunity to judge the effectiveness of legislators without giving them a bully pulpit for self aggrandizement. I think that “down votes”, on a few of the worst offenders, would serve as a warning to all.
As for checks and balances: while I agree our system has never been worse, I think the rot started long ago and isn’t unique to any one party. So long as legislators can’t be fired (Unless they are censured by their peers. And, we all know that, virtually, never happens.) they are able to do as they please between “election cycles”. A “review” or “recall” would serve to put the ultimate power back in the hands of voters. And, hopefully, would force them to account for their actions.
As things stand now we are vulnerable to the whims of the powerful. I don’t know that removing the Republicriminals, and crushing the neocons, will be enough. Something must be done to send a clear message to ALL elected officials. The threat of being removed mid-term, based on their records without the opportunity to campaign, would go a long way towards meeting that goal.
The Tedster insists he’s done nothing but serve the interests of his constituents. And yes I’ve heard many Alaskan folk (the white ones) are bassackword types who are seeking independence from government.
Ted Stevens is a federal agency?
November 16th, 2007 at 1:47 pm“Nothing to see here. Move along.”
November 16th, 2007 at 1:47 pmStevens is senile, but heck Alaskans do not seem to notice it.
November 16th, 2007 at 1:48 pm“I don’t see any reason why we should have had this massive press interest in what’s going on,â€
Maybe if you weren’t a corruptable sh*t-heel, you wouldn’t have this worry on your plate, IDIOT.
November 16th, 2007 at 1:49 pm“Why don’t you concentrate on something important, like OJ?”
November 16th, 2007 at 1:50 pm“I don’t see any reason why we should have had this massive press interest in what’s going on,†Stevens said.
Yes, of course…since corrupt politicians are a dime a dozen, right, Stevens?
Any Congresscritter, regardless of party affiliation, who is convicted of misusing their office for personal or political gain should be taken out back and shot twice in the head. You’d see these crooks straighten up in a hurry…
November 16th, 2007 at 1:51 pmStevens has a point… his type of corruption is pretty standard for Republicans. What’s the big fuss?
November 16th, 2007 at 1:52 pm“I don’t see any reason why we should have had this massive press interest in what’s going on,†Stevens said. “It’s just an investigation of a federal agency. They go on all the time.â€
I mean, after all, this is still the Bush administration. Dude, where’s my bridge?
November 16th, 2007 at 1:52 pmJust to be perfectly clear regarding my post #6, I’m not advocating murder. I’m advocating capital punishment.
November 16th, 2007 at 1:53 pmYeah, if this had involved a blow job between consenting adults, I’m sure Mr. Stevens would admit that it’s worth 24 hour a day blanket coverage, special prosecutors, and a $50 million budget for investigations. Criminal corruption and graft just don’t quite measure up to those blow jobs between consenting adults.
November 16th, 2007 at 1:55 pmAlaska–leave this guy out on the ice already. And quickly–before it all melts.
November 16th, 2007 at 1:56 pmPoor Ted Stevens – he once had a mind but has now forgotten where he put it! He’s one of the reasons this country needs term limits. This sad old fool should have been gone long ago.
November 16th, 2007 at 1:58 pmThat’s right Ted, nothing to worry about at all. Just keep going about your daily business, nobody, like the Feds, are paying any attention at all.
Nothing but net, whoosh.
November 16th, 2007 at 2:04 pmLOOK – BRITNEY SPEARS!! And Linsay Lohan spent a couple of minutes in jail, too!! And OJ has to stand trial (again).
November 16th, 2007 at 2:07 pmStevens has a point… his type of corruption is pretty standard for Republicans. What’s the big fuss?
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — November 16, 2007 @ 1:52 pm
Hell, he may not even be the most corrupt senator in Alaska! Remember Young is having his “issues” as well.
WHY do the people of Alaska send us such a$$Klowns???
November 16th, 2007 at 2:08 pmToo bad Teddy isn’t related to Darren.
November 16th, 2007 at 2:17 pmHe could have Samantha twitch hre nose and make the investigation go away!
Anybody remember Congressman Ventura in the Doonesbury strip back in the late 70’s (he held the CA seat that eventually went to Lacey Davenport)? He was undone by scandal when he was caught screwing his secretary in a motel room. His reaction when he got caught? “But EVERYBODY does it!”
Ted Stevens’ protests are reminding me of this.
November 16th, 2007 at 2:30 pmWHY do the people of Alaska send us such a$$Klowns???
Comment by upside99
Because they have become used to living off the dole from the US government. Many people in Alaska live off the checks they get from the government because of the pipeline. They have become fat and rich and just want a politician who will protect their interests, even if it is ripping off the Federal Government. If you are corrupt, what better representative could you have than one who is entirely corrupt too.
November 16th, 2007 at 2:39 pmMN has it’s own ‘bridge to nowhere’, but it’s for a tragic reason.
Stevens & Young need to go. Now.
These are the same types who have allowed oil & fishing interests to literally rape Alaska’s beautiful natural resources.
I’ll second putting them out on the ice…hope they have Happy Feet!
November 16th, 2007 at 2:41 pmWhy yes, it’s MUCH easier to be corrupt and on the take when nobody knows about it!!
/sarc off
November 16th, 2007 at 2:46 pm“It’s just an investigation of a federal agency. They go on all the time.â€
Apparently, the RNC is in the final stage of its master plan — they’ve lowered the bar on integrity among politicians far enough that they think they can get away with anything. Stevens is planting the first rivet with this casual dismissal of corruption investigations.
November 16th, 2007 at 2:46 pmI don’t see any reason for the media to be concerned about a “CrooK” who took money for his vote either. Why are they concerned about a Senator who took a bribe? I mean doesn’t the media have better things to do than cover a FBI investigation into bribery, obstruction of justice, lying to investigators all by a sitting United States Senator? What has this country come too? The next thing you know they will be asking Judy Guiliani about his shady dealings with lying, cheating, former nominees for Chief of Homeland Security. Not that Rudy’s crooked business partners who was having an affair in an apartment meant for tired 9-11 recue workers is wrong. It’s not like Fox News asked that lady to lie about the affair to cover up for Rudy or anything.
November 16th, 2007 at 2:57 pmAmazing how the disease of senile dementia trivializes everything around an individual. Ted Stevens is textbook. “just another investigation….” Perhaps he’s so out of touch mentally that he doesn’t realize they’re investigating him even though they’re crawling all over his house! Wow! This guy is seriously in need of a nursing home room and NOW.
November 16th, 2007 at 2:58 pmGoodness knows, Shadow, soon they may even begin investigating what Rudy knew and when he knew it regarding 911. After all, it seems to be his main area of expertise. If I were Rudy, I’d be very careful about how much emphasis he’s placing on his 911 experience – the fact is that the public still only knows the tip of the 911 iceberg which is sinking the Bush Titanic and will take Rudy’s little lifeboat down into the eddy with it.
November 16th, 2007 at 3:00 pmWhen the dems swiftboat Rudy’s “real 911 experience”, it ain’t going to be a pretty site. The people, upon discovering the truth, will be so bereft and angst-filled that I suspect that there will be a major revolution when the facts are outed. Plenty of dems know the facts – and it’s just a matter of time before the pull out the big ones and sink the GOP.
November 16th, 2007 at 3:02 pmTed Stevens is nothing more than a cockroach. It’s no wonder he doesn’t like the light of day shining on him.
November 16th, 2007 at 3:22 pmPoor Ted Stevens – he once had a mind but has now forgotten where he put it! He’s one of the reasons this country needs term limits. This sad old fool should have been gone long ago.
Comment by Veritas — November 16, 2007 @ 1:58 pm
Veritas- I will agree with you about Ted, as I have on most, if not all issues, but not on term limits. I should have a right to vote for whom I wish. Term limits is not a falesafe. Prosecute, impeach or vote out of office those who we find not suitable for office.
November 16th, 2007 at 3:25 pmBridges to nowhere are massively interesting.
November 16th, 2007 at 3:36 pmTerm Limits just offers another avenue for big money to infiltrate politics. Grab another politico coming up the pipeline from the local level with some name recognition. No experience. But name recog. Term-limit the old guy, finance the new. Process starts anew.
Then, you introduce them to an administrative pipeline, well entrenched since the 90’s as Civil Servants, whose job it is to make them understand how it all works. That spells control by the non-elected. That is not democracy.
November 16th, 2007 at 3:41 pmComment by leftcoast — November 16, 2007 @ 3:25 pm
I think that term limits would be the simplest way, to avoid the “entitlement factor” in our legislators, though not necessarily the best. A local political science prof proposed this interesting idea:
He proposed that legislators should face an “automatic recall” half way through each term. No campaigning would be allowed. It would be a simple “yes/no vote” based on the legislator’s record and adherence to campaign promises. This would serve to prevent the common practice of voting for personal gain through the first few years followed by a few high profile votes to reclaim support.
BTW, he also proposed that legislators must resign their office to run for another office. This would not stop reelection campaigns, but would prevent “absentee legislators” (I can think of several current candidates who fit this description.) running for other offices.
Regardless, we must find a way to “check and balance” our legislators.
November 16th, 2007 at 3:56 pmpete,
November 16th, 2007 at 4:06 pmI think there is merit to the suggestions.
But, do you not think that an “automatic recall” will do nothing more than re-set the clock for more of the same?
Re: “Checks and balances”: it has been the Bush Co. Neocons who have re-constituted the Constitution. The Process of the House and Senate has been ripped apart by the Repubs in the last decade. Until that process is regained it matters not who we elect.
Comment by leftcoast — November 16, 2007 @ 4:06 pm
Perhaps I didn’t do the idea justice. As I understood it, the “automatic recall”, would be like an “employee review”. It would also, as I understood it, provide an opportunity to judge the effectiveness of legislators without giving them a bully pulpit for self aggrandizement. I think that “down votes”, on a few of the worst offenders, would serve as a warning to all.
As for checks and balances: while I agree our system has never been worse, I think the rot started long ago and isn’t unique to any one party. So long as legislators can’t be fired (Unless they are censured by their peers. And, we all know that, virtually, never happens.) they are able to do as they please between “election cycles”. A “review” or “recall” would serve to put the ultimate power back in the hands of voters. And, hopefully, would force them to account for their actions.
As things stand now we are vulnerable to the whims of the powerful. I don’t know that removing the Republicriminals, and crushing the neocons, will be enough. Something must be done to send a clear message to ALL elected officials. The threat of being removed mid-term, based on their records without the opportunity to campaign, would go a long way towards meeting that goal.
November 16th, 2007 at 4:43 pmThe Tedster insists he’s done nothing but serve the interests of his constituents. And yes I’ve heard many Alaskan folk (the white ones) are bassackword types who are seeking independence from government.
November 17th, 2007 at 9:40 am