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Bush nominates judges who donated to his campaign.

On Thursday, President Bush nominated two judges for high-level positions who gave him campaign contributions while under consideration for positions, a practice ethics experts and many federal judges deem “inappropriate.” The Center for Investigative Reporting notes:

Bush nominated Judge Gene Pratter, of Pennsylvania, to the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, a level just below the U.S. Supreme Court. Pratter, who was featured in the CIR report, “Money Trails to the Federal Bench,” gave $2,000 to Bush in 2003, after interviewing with the White House for her judgeship.

Bush also picked Judge Mark Filip, of Illinois, to be deputy attorney general, the No. 2 spot in the Justice Department. Filip gave Bush $2,000 in 2003, after the president nominated him for his judgeship, as earlier reported by CIR.




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86 Responses to “Bush nominates judges who donated to his campaign.”

  1. Veritas Says:

    If it's inappropriate, Bush will do it. Is there nothing this guy does which is appropriate, honest, or authentic?


  2. Veritas Says:

    Bush's tenure as president is becoming downright "scandalous" and totally inappropriate in every sense of the word. Maybe Kucinich is right - he needs a psychiatric examination - and soon.


  3. Buckie Boy Says:

    Anything inappropriate or illegal will be known in the future as doing a "Bush". This guy is a totally embarassment to our country and should have been removed from office right after 911 or when we discovered that he stole the election.

    Buck Fush


  4. Mad As Hell Says:

    In the very last sentence of an otherwise glowing article about Filip in the Chicago Tribune, they point out that "He did, however, work as a volunteer Republican vote counter in Florida during the 2000 election recount."

    Great. Just what we need.


  5. Wayne Says:

    So, $2000 is the going price for a judgeship now, huh? After you sign over your soul that is.


  6. VerbalKint Says:

    Bush has made an inappropriate use of his life in every possible way.


  7. katy Says:

    that's not ALL filip did for bush... well, maybe...
    google that name: Judge Mark Filip

    University of Chicago Law School > Mark Filip
    Mark Filip graduated from the University of Illinois, summa cum laude, ... In March, 2004, Filip became a United States District Court Judge for the ...
    http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/filip - 13k - Cached - Similar pages
    JUDGE MARK FILIP TRYING TO KILL BUSH-CHENEY INDICTMENTS
    Tom Heneghen reports that a Judge Magistrate named Mark R. Filip is trying to suppress the indictments against Bush-Cheney and other high officials by the ...
    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=78770 - 16k -
    [...]
    MSNBC US judge in Chicago picked for Justice job - Nov 15, 2007
    The move requires US District Judge Mark Filip to give up his lifetime post on the federal bench to join the Justice Department at a time of turmoil, ...
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    Law Blog - WSJ.com : Mukasey Taps Judge Mark Filip As His Deputy AG
    Attorney General Mukasey has tapped Mark Filip, a federal judge in Chicago, to be his deputy attorney general. If confirmed, Filip will replace acting ...
    blogs.wsj.com/law/2007/11/15/ mukasey-taps-judge-mark-filip-as-his-deputy-ag/ - 94k -

    ...


  8. Willy Says:

    It's amazing that the Republicans are so brain dead as to continue following and enabling this criminal. Every action Bush does shows contempt for the rule of law and for the American people. You can't get much lower than Bush has gotten. Way to go, ignorant Republicans.


  9. kasinca Says:

    Dubya Bush Administration = Thugs in a crime family or fascist pigs..take your pick.


  10. dixie blood Says:

    As long as Attorney General Mukasey is in office the DoJ will continue to be corrupt to the RepugniScum core.

    His appointment is a great gift to defense lawyers. Every jury pool in America continues to be tainted by the Botch admin and their puppets including Mukasey!!


  11. kasinca Says:

    The actions of Dubya Bush indicate that he is most probably doing drugs and drinking.


  12. dixie blood Says:

    Comment by kasinca — November 17, 2007 @ 7:21 pm

    I pick both!! Fascist pigs and criminal family!!!


  13. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    I'm a little astonished at the blatancy and lack of pretense anymore.

    Why don't these characters just walk up to Busch, bow, kiss his ring, and stuff envelopes full of cash into his shaky, sweating hands.


  14. OxyCon Says:

    IOKIYAR


  15. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    George W. Bush has never understood the concept of "conflict of interest", so he certainly wouldn't know what constitutes the appearance of a conflict of interest. He honestly believes (as his former recess-appointed-because-he-was-unqualified-to-be-Ambassador John Bolton recently confirmed) that he has a responsibility to govern for the people who voted for him. So he is incapable of understanding why appointing people to judgeships who gave money to his campaign (even after being interviewed, when it might look like they were buying their nominations) is wrong.

    We cannot wait for Jan '09 for his term to end.


  16. nofltwlt Says:

    I am amazed that anyone would sell themselves out for such a small amount of money - Bush that is.


  17. chriswyse Says:

    Communist China owns the Clintons. At least G.W. helped out to a capitalist.


  18. Witch1 Says:

    All this goes back to the root cause in genetic term's....What we have here is a bad genetic mix that goes back several generation's, all contributed to the miserable end product...g.w.bush, son of g.h.w.bush & bab's, clearly all off spring from this match should be watched closely for all their evil and weeknesses...g.h.w.bush son of prescott (nazi) bush & ?.The present day bush must be a throw back to the grand father..They should not be allowed to hold any office and all should be in jail.....Blessings


  19. had enough Says:

    Is anyone surprised? Now if Bush started behaving with manners of integrity, as he should, that would be a shocker.


  20. cha cha cha Says:

    doesn't this officially make them "activist judges"?


  21. cha cha cha Says:

    "At least G.W. helped out to a capitalist."

    bin laden's a capitalist?


  22. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Communist China owns the Clintons. At least G.W. helped out to a capitalist.

    Comment by chriswyse — November 17, 2007 @ 8:21 pm

    WTF does this mean? It's not even a coherent comment.

    Bush sold his *ss to the Chinese. They're holding a huge pile of his IOUs right now.


  23. Briseadh na Faire Says:

    We have the finest government money can buy.

    Literally.


  24. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    We have the finest government money can buy.

    Literally.

    Comment by Briseadh na Faire — November 17, 2007 @ 8:55 pm

    The FINEST? Sh*t, dude, we should be askin' fer our money back.


  25. Lefty Patriot Says:

    I get it. It's Clinton's fault that Bush is selling judgeships. Cheap.


  26. troll buster Says:

    "Communist China owns the Clintons"
    ================================================
    1) The Saudis have owned the Bush family since GHB was president.

    2) China may soon own the United States, they have already accumulated 1.2 trillion in treasury bills. You wing-nuts will not be able to blame Clinton for that.

    3) Common sense is lost to the simple minded.


  27. Lefty Patriot Says:

    Actually, the Bin Laden family has owned the Bush family for at least two decades. The Bushes were such monumental failures in the oil biz that the Saudis bailed them out, through the Bin Laden's, which is why all family members were rushed out of the country on 9/12.


  28. Gregor Samsa Says:

    The Bush Pay-to-Play administration; what do the Bush loyalists have to say on the subject?

    "Clinton did it too".

    So lame. So weak. So morally bankrupt.


  29. wijg Says:

    #21. doesn’t this officially make them “activist judges”?

    Comment by cha cha cha — November 17, 2007 @ 8:52 pm

    Yes, automatically and 'officially.' Good point!


  30. Aanya Says:

    Hmmm! I thought you had to personally know the Chimp to get a crony appointment? Just a $2,000. investment and you're in!


  31. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    So lame. So weak. So morally bankrupt.

    Comment by Gregor Samsa — November 17, 2007 @ 9:44 pm

    They've got nothing else to go w/ Gregor. Can't you smell that sour stench of desperation that follows wherever a GOOPer goes?

    Why do you think "Buzzy" and "Cookie" backed out of their respective lies and positions so quickly the other day, once they were caught?

    The F-in' thieves are finally showing some fear, that they might FINALLY start being held responsible for all the crap they've pulled over the last 7 yrs.


  32. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Just a $2,000. investment and you’re in!

    Comment by Aanya — November 17, 2007 @ 9:47 pm

    It's kind of like a fire sale. Stock in "America's CEO" **cough** is WAAAYYY down, so the value of his appointments has tanked accordingly. By next spring, they'll be selling for $500. You'll see.


  33. upright left Says:

    I get it. It’s Clinton’s fault that Bush is selling judgeships. Cheap.

    Comment by Lefty Patriot — November 17, 2007 @ 9:08 pm

    Do you say that because of this study?

    Survey Finds that the Public Lacks Confidence in Presidential Appointments

    "Overall, more than half of the 640 appointees in the analysis had made contributions to candidates Clinton and Bush."
    http://www.brookings.edu/media/NewsReleases/2001/20010906pai.aspx

    I really doubt that it started with Clinton. It's unfair to blame him for Bush having done it. Each president who has done it, and will do it, bears his own responsibility. ;)



  34. Gregor Samsa Says:

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — November 17, 2007 @ 9:49 pm

    Isn't it amazing? Invasions of aggression, wars for oil, rampant cronyism, corruption, incompetence, etc. and sometimes I believe we've only seen the tip of the iceberg.

    ::shudder::


  35. wijg Says:

    It doesn't look like this is anything new:

    Oct. 31, 2006 | At least two dozen federal judges appointed by President Bush since 2001 made political contributions to key Republicans or to the president himself while under consideration for their judgeships, government records show. A four-month investigation of Bush-appointed judges by the Center for Investigative Reporting reveals that six appellate court judges and 18 district court judges contributed a total of more than $44,000 to politicians who were influential in their appointments. Some gave money directly to Bush after he officially nominated them. Other judges contributed to Republican campaign committees while they were under consideration for a judgeship.

    Republicans who received money from judges en route to the bench include Sens. Arlen Specter and Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, Sens. George Voinovich and Mike DeWine of Ohio, and Gov. George Pataki of New York.

    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/10/31/money_trail/


  36. ozma10 Says:

    Is it impeachment time yet??????


  37. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Some gave money directly to Bush after he officially nominated them. Other judges contributed to Republican campaign committees while they were under consideration for a judgeship.

    Comment by wijg — November 17, 2007 @ 10:25 pm

    Wold appear to be a textbook case of graft and kickbacks.


  38. kasinca Says:

    GOP = Thugs of a crime family. Morally corrupt and dishonest to the core.


  39. Briseadh na Faire Says:

    We have the finest government money can buy.

    Literally.

    Comment by Briseadh na Faire — November 17, 2007 @ 8:55 pm

    The FINEST? Sh*t, dude, we should be askin’ fer our money back.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — November 17, 2007 @ 8:57 pm

    We're not the ones who bought and paid for them. They belong to the Ruling Class.


  40. Gregor Samsa Says:

    I obviously have been putting my money in all the wrong places.

    I wonder what $4,000 can buy in this administration.


  41. erock Says:

    I wonder what $4,000 can buy in this administration.

    Comment by Gregor Samsa — November 17, 2007 @ 10:56 pm

    Depends on your competition when bidding.

    One wonders if there's that much left to sell...


  42. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    They belong to the Ruling Class.

    Comment by Briseadh na Faire — November 17, 2007 @ 10:45 p

    Then maybe they should be asking for their money back.


  43. wijg Says:

    Wold appear to be a textbook case of graft and kickbacks.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — November 17, 2007 @ 10:42 pm

    Yep, remember john roberts being part of the 2000 presidential election team that assisted bush-cheney in the election rip-off? I read where Roberts donated $1000.00 to bush.

    Nothing is being done to stop these crooks, they are taking over this country without opposition.


  44. Arn Gunnutes Says:

    Communist China owns the Clintons. At least G.W. helped out to a capitalist.

    Comment by chriswyse — November 17, 2007 @ 8:21 pm

    Which is why Bush's UNCLE had a LOCK on importing from China to the USA, right?

    "This is GW's Uncle Prescott, Jr. During the embargo on China, his company was the only US firm allowed to do business there, exporting communications satellites.
    He recently retired as the Chairman of the USA-China Chamber of Commerce, which might be one reason China isn't part of the Axis of Evil. (more on China) He also has ties to Manuel Noriega (below)."

    http://www.hereinreality.com/familyvalues.html

    Such a STUPID azs-licker of the Bushes you are...

    Sincerely,

    NRA Gun Nutes


  45. Jackie Says:

    Here's the 411 on Mark Filip. He and Pat Fitzgerald were both in line for the Special Prosecutor's job. Mark was given the Judgeship because Pat got the SP job. Now Mark is a true loyal criminal Bushie/GOP. As side from his donation he also held back on cases involving GOP/White House matters. Mark was a good boy to his fellow Republicans. He played ball and did it well. Fitz just did his job so you know how that goes. Mark did such a good job for the GOP he was appointed Deputy AG and when the Bush Administration's term is over Mark will return to his Judgeship. Next move for a young man who knows how to protect the White House crime family. This is a lesson to all future lawyers who want to sell their souls to the Devil. Do what Mark Filip did and you will be rewarded. Now for those honest lawyers you will have to wait for an honest President to get a job. The new Attorney General and his Deputy will continue in the direction of Al Gonzales and take direction from Dick Cheney and yes Karl Rove. Karl might have left the job but he's still running the DOJ office as normal. Look for more loyal Bushies to be put in positions to make sure the crime wave continues.


  46. barfly Says:

    Is it impeachment time yet??????

    Comment by ozma10

    Oh, please.

    The standard now for impeachment is blow jobs. Even Condi won't touch the little commander-in-chief.

    That's why he's copping feels from other heads of state. What are they gonna' do about it? Start a war 'cause he's sexually frustrated and resorting to his gropey frat house ways? Why do you think Laura always has that dazed stare at State functions? My bet is she's on meds to relieve the PTSD, after sex with Don Juan Bush.


  47. Perry logan Says:

    George W. Bush used to suck dick at Yale:

    "In 1984 I watched George W. Bush enthusiastically and expertly perform a homosexual act on another man, one Victor Ashe."
    http://bushssecretlifein84.tripod.com/

    Maybe we can impeach him for that.


  48. Doc Rock Says:

    What do you expect from an on-going criminal enterprise that no one in a position of authority and trust is willing to take on?


  49. orionATL Says:

    somebody ought to let the alabama and wisconsin u.s. attorney's offices, among others, know about this.

    giving positions of influence to persons who contributed to your campaign was the basis for the successful (political) prosecutions of former alabama gov don siegelman and a wisconsin state purchasing agent.

    i think both cases may have used some variant of the rico statutes.

    anyway it sounds like,

    george bush should be indicted (if he's a democrat)

    or

    george bush was just doping what politicians have done for centuries (if he is a republican).

    different strokes for different folks, don't you know.

    courtesy of your

    UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF (in)JUSTICE.


  50. orionATL Says:

    correction:

    "doing" not "doping".


  51. Badger Says:

    giving positions of influence to persons who contributed to your campaign was the basis for the successful (political) prosecutions of former alabama gov don siegelman and a wisconsin state purchasing agent.
    Comment by orionATL — November 18, 2007 @ 8:23 am

    ...Succesful Temporarily. This bogus,politically inspired prosecution was quickly thrown out on appeal.

    from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinal..

    After being convicted by a federal jury in Milwaukee in June of two felonies accusing her of steering a controversial state contract to a travel agency linked to Gov. Jim Doyle's re-election campaign, she resigned a $77,300-a-year state job. In a highly unusual move, federal appeals judges tossed out those convictions on Thursday immediately after hearing oral arguments and ordered her released from prison that very day.


  52. Lefty Patriot Says:

    It figures that somebody with the gutter-level morals of the coward bigfoot would give a free pass to lawbreaking and immoral activities, thereby furthering the destruction of the democracy that he claims to love so much, while refusing to defend it in any way. And what difference does it make if there are laws against it or not? Bushco cares not for laws, except to break them every chance it gets. bigfoot is an antiAmerican traitor, happy to find a 24-hour platform to spew his treason and hatred of American law and justice. No surprise from a lily-livered coward the likes of him.


  53. Briseadh na Faire Says:

    They belong to the Ruling Class.

    Comment by Briseadh na Faire — November 17, 2007 @ 10:45 p

    Then maybe they should be asking for their money back.

    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — November 17, 2007 @ 11:04 pm

    They got their money's worth with the repeal of the Estate Tax: Perpetual Dynasties.


  54. Badger Says:

    When was the Estate tax Repealed??? The tax rate was lowered years ago , but repealed??? I must have missed that.


  55. Clumberfeet Says:

    Hanging Judge Roy Bean, the only law west of the Pecos.

    Not quite progressive.


  56. dbadass Says:

    Comment by O. Bigfoot — November 18, 2007 @ 8:47 am

    So it's safe to assume that you have no problem with cronyism when it occurs in democratic administrations?


  57. Badger Says:

    Cronyism leads to corruption.

    Incompetent Cronyism leads to whatever you call Bush's record.


  58. willyloman Says:

    Many people, not just Fox News viewers, don't fully understand the need for impeachment of Cheney and then Bush.

    I am writing a series of three articles that put forward the reality of that need in terms of world opinion, the crimes of this administration, and ultimately the danger of allowing this kind of behavior to continue unchecked.

    This is the first.

    http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2007/11/18/so-impeachment-will-make-the-us-look-bad-to-the-rest-of-the-world-is-that-so/


  59. troll buster Says:

    Please ignore Onan the troll


  60. Briseadh na Faire Says:

    When was the Estate tax Repealed??? The tax rate was lowered years ago , but repealed??? I must have missed that.

    Comment by Badger — November 18, 2007 @ 9:38 am

    Congress has passed tax laws that have changed the estate tax. Since 2003, the top rate has been lowered from 49% by one percentage point per year; in 2006 the top rate was 46%. If the US Congress makes no changes to US tax law, the top rate will continue to drop by one percentage point per year until 2009 when the top rate is scheduled to be 45%; in 2010 all estates will be taxed at 0%;

    Bush & Co want to make this 0% rate permanent.


  61. Briseadh na Faire Says:

    From the ABA Model Rules of Professional Conduct:

    a judge or a judicial candidate* shall not:

    ***
    (4) solicit funds for, pay an assessment to, or make a contribution to a political organization or a candidate for public office;

    ***


  62. katy Says:

    yea but those are "Model Rules", BnF...
    waddya want here? eh?


  63. Marie Says:

    This is the pattern of Bush. Reward your friends, supporters and cronies -- experience, integrity, knowledge be damned.
    So, a couple thousand dollars today will buy you a plum from Bush tomorrow.


  64. Exley Says:

    A far more disturbing story:

    Hillary Clinton Takes Cash From Recipients of Husband's Controversial Pardons
    ABC News

    Three recipients of controversial 11th-hour pardons issued by former President Bill Clinton in January 2001 have donated thousands of dollars to the presidential campaign of his wife, Democratic front-runner Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., according to campaign finance records examined by ABC News, in what some good government groups said created an appearance of impropriety.

    "It's not illegal," Melanie Sloan, executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, told ABC News. "But, of course, it's inappropriate and she should return the money. It does raise the appearance that this is payback. "One can only hope that she wasn't yet aware of who made the donations," said Sloan.

    One of the pardonees who has become a donor to Sen. Clinton is David Herdlinger, a former prosecutor in Springdale, Ark., who, according to press accounts at the time of his pardon pleaded guilty in 1986 to mail fraud after taking bribes to reduce or drop charges against defendants charged with drunken driving offenses.

    Now a life and business coach in Georgia, Herdlinger was pardoned by President Clinton in January 2001; he donated $1,000 to Sen. Clinton's presidential campaign in August.

    Insurance agent Alfredo Regalado, who gave Hillary Clinton $2,000, was pardoned by her husband for failing to "report the transportation of currency in excess of $10,000 into the United States," according to the Department of Justice.

    John Deutch is a different case, having served as President Clinton's CIA director. Pardoned by President Clinton for charges he had mishandled government secrets -- but before the Department of Justice could file the proper paperwork against him --

    http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=3866786&page=1


  65. katy Says:

    good for CREW... always on the job!
    ...

    you can stop panting now, ex...
    ...


  66. Exley Says:

    Katy,

    I agree...A nice job by the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washingtonm is catching the Clinton campaign's highly questionable fundraising...

    But isn't it odd that ThinkProgress, which purports to be so concerned with public corruption, did not run the story?

    Oh, wait...It's Hillary....I guess it is not surprising that TP tried to bury the story after all....


  67. Jane E. Schneider Says:

    Good morning, er, afternoon, Exley! Please keep in mind that not all of us are fans of Senator Clinton. Personally, I believe that she is too much in the pockets of certain big corporations and industries, and she certainly would not be my nominee.


  68. Jane E. Schneider Says:

    BTW, I am more than happy to have CREW out there rooting out unethical behavior in BOTH parties.


  69. katy Says:

    "TP tried to bury the story"???

    in 2 threads???

    whatever floats your boat...


  70. Badger Says:

    Comment by Exley — November 18, 2007 @ 12:10 pm

    Exley....you have no evidence that Clinton's staff KNEW these contributions were from improper donors when they were first received them ....or that she failed to gave them back when she found out about them. Believe me...the Bad press was hardly worth a couple Grand$$$.
    And for your comment that TP hasn't posted comments critical of Sen. Clinton...give me a break.


  71. Exley Says:

    #72 Jane....Good afternoon (feels like morning) to you too!

    Yes, I know a lot of posters here are not big Hillary fans. But the fact is that she is the front-runner for the Democratic nomination of president. Therefore, I find it amusing that the editors of ThinkProgress, who purport to be so concerned about public corruption, turn a blind eye to suspect activities conducted by John Podesta's former boss.

    On another, more important topic, I am thrilled that the negotiations with Yorvit Torrealba fell through...What was Omar thinking???? Yorvit Torrealba was not going to lead us to the Promised Land.


  72. bilbobaggins Says:

    doesn’t this officially make them “activist judges”?
    Comment by cha cha cha

    Nope, they are only "activist judges" when they are appointed by a Democrat. If they are appointed by a Republican, they are "strict constructionists".


  73. bilbobaggins Says:

    Bush sold his *ss to the Chinese. They’re holding a huge pile of his IOUs right now.
    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    I'm sorry TRS, I have to disagree with you. Bush sold our *ss to the Chinese.


  74. katy Says:

    "suspect activities conducted by John Podesta’s former boss."

    another notch lower on the credential ladder...

    that's enough for that one...


  75. Jane E. Schneider Says:

    Yorvit Torrealba was not going to lead us to the Promised Land.

    Comment by Exley — November 18, 2007 @ 12:32 pm

    Not with a name like "Yorvit"! :)

    As regards TP and Hillary, I'm just not here often enough to notice any pro-Clinton bias from TP. Of course, there's plenty of people here who post anti-Clinton comments even when they're off-topic, so her faults aren't totally ignored.


  76. bilbobaggins Says:

    It figures that somebody with the gutter-level morals of the coward bigfoot would give a free pass to lawbreaking and immoral activities, thereby furthering the destruction of the democracy that he claims to love so much, while refusing to defend it in any way.

    OBigFootInMouth says it's not illegal. He is wrong, it is illegal. It's called bribery. How is this any different than Ted Stevens steering contracts to someone who remodeled his house virtually for free? And Ted Stevens is being investigated for this bribery scheme.


  77. bilbobaggins Says:

    Fact is, there’s no law against people contributing to political campaigns. Lots of people do it.
    Comment by O. Bigfoot

    You know, OBigFootInMouth, you are incredibly stupid. Of course there is no law to contributing to campaigns. There is a law against contributing to campaigns in return for something, like a Judgeship. That's called bribery by most people.


  78. bilbobaggins Says:

    Therefore, I find it amusing that the editors of ThinkProgress, who purport to be so concerned about public corruption, turn a blind eye to suspect activities conducted by John Podesta’s former boss.

    Could it be because this has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton and her campaign for President?

    There is no pro Hillary bias on this blog. If anything it is more anti Hillary than pro Hillary.

    Also, the only reason why she is the front-runner is because the MSM has anointed her front runner status and they are ignoring the other candidates. She also has the largest "name recognition" factor. That's the same thing that is going on with Rudy. Most people have no idea who Guiliani is or what he stands for. They just recognize his name from 911.

    At this moment Hilliary is in a statistical dead heat in Iowa with Obama and Edwards. So, Hillary as the Democratic candidate is far from a done deal.


  79. bilbobaggins Says:

    A far more disturbing story:
    Hillary Clinton Takes Cash From Recipients of Husband’s Controversial Pardons

    You gotta love the Republiscum hypocrisy. There's nothing wrong with a potential judge making contributions to Bush's campaign, and then they magically become a judge. But there is something wrong with Hillary taking a campaign contribution from someone who her husband pardoned. Both are wrong and both need exposure. But in the Republiscum bizarro world, it's only wrong if it is done by a Democrat.


  80. Badger Says:

    OT... but Frank Rich has a very interesting piece in Sunday's NY Times about Mr. Giulianni. And Frank Rich's column is now FREE online.


  81. tombaker Says:

    pay to play - that's the Righty way!!

    lie to get in the game

    cheat and line your pockets

    get caught and blame a democrat

    repeat as necessary

    only thing worse than a Righty politician is the rube voting for him.


  82. tombaker Says:

    ex doesn't even need strawmen anymore - he just uses strawman ghosts now

    rhetorically adept, but strategically recherche.


  83. upright left Says:

    Both are wrong and both need exposure.
    Comment by bilbobaggins — November 18, 2007 @ 12:51 pm

    Finally, a lib acknowledging that a Dem did the same thing that Bush is being slammed for and the Dem is actually wrong for doing it too! No excuse for why the Dem had to do it, no "Repubs made him do it," a Dem did something wrong and bears responsibility for it himself. What a fine day for such a wonderous revelation. ;)


  84. Lefty Patriot Says:

    Finally, a lib acknowledging that a Dem did the same thing that Bush is being slammed for and the Dem is actually wrong for doing it too! No excuse for why the Dem had to do it, no “Repubs made him do it,” a Dem did something wrong and bears responsibility for it himself. What a fine day for such a wonderous revelation. ;)

    Comment by upright left — November 18, 2007 @ 5:23 pm

    UL, you need a remedial English course, you obviously don't understand the language, or sarcasm, or irony. did Hillary pardon these people? No. did they contribute in hopes of a pardon? well, hardly, they contributed afterwards, long after. Talk about straw men, you're pathetic.


  85. upright left Says:

    UL, you need a remedial English course, you obviously don’t understand the language, or sarcasm, or irony. did Hillary pardon these people? No. did they contribute in hopes of a pardon? well, hardly, they contributed afterwards, long after. Talk about straw men, you’re pathetic.

    Comment by Lefty Patriot — November 18, 2007 @ 9:11 pm

    Sorry, bud, too late. A lib admitted a Dem was wrong for something other than failure to try to impeach Bush. Nearly every other post ignored the fact that this practice is common to both parties and is wrong no matter who does it. None would say it's gone on for years and is wrong, period; only that Bush is wrong for doing it. One lone lib finally acknowledged it. ;)



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