Here is some proof of this collusion as I see it. Look at both of these answers and see how Obama is deliberately protecting Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party as a whole. But he is doing so to the detriment of the voting public by mirroring her stance on Iraq before the year 2013. The American people deserve to have a say on the war, and with this crap going on we wont have any say at all.

Obama On Iraq War, 2013
http://test.redlasso.com/service/svc/clip/playClip?fid=995976a7-4b49-4c8a-ba8f-1a52d2736dfe

Clinton On Iraq War, 2013
http://test.redlasso.com/service/svc/clip/playClip?fid=48e72937-39f7-4e7f-9dce-c653802b3237

How much airplay did General Sanchez’s recent remarks about iraq being a “nightmare” and the surge being a “desparate play” get from your so called liberal media?

How many news stories have there been about the NON-EXISTENT political progress the surge was supposed to buy time for? (and when I say “buy” time, I mean that literally)

Anybody know what happened to IRaqBodycount.org ? That was a damn good reosource for credible, cited sources about the reality of the violence thats still ongoing in iraq….

Uhm huh. Its has nothing to do with the fact that the iraq government recently made reporting on the aftermath of bombings illegal, right?

Its not the fact that every major news outlet is in the hands of big business, defense contractors, etc it is? Last I checked, at best, body counts have dropped as much as 50 percent…if half the violance is still there, you think they can’t find any of it to report on? Or you think that maybe some of the millions and millions of dollars that is going to bribe the people who used to be taking shots at us is going to grease the palms of the newsmakers as well? Or do we only bribe people to not kill our soldiers?

AMEN!!

Because the situation on this progressive site was getting intolerable with troll dung taking almost every thread off topic with long diatribes and down-right LYING in order to cause a brouhaha that defeats the purpose of this site, Think Progress added registration requirements, including cookies. It is a small price to pay, in my opinion. Being able to report trolls for abuse, and having the offending trolls identified with cookies so they can’t use multiple aliases has cleared a LOT of troll dung off the threads.

I admit that I almost reported YOU for abuse for your troll-like comment, “I knew this site was a fake and cant (sic) handle anti american comments…”

However, I thought better of it and decided to give you the benefit of the doubt.

You are wrong. This site is NOT fake.

However, you are right when you point out the importance of the figure of “…how many inncoent (sic) Iraqis have died because of MORON bush…”

Getting reliable data about exactly how much death and destruction the U.S. has caused from the current corrupt, criminal administration, is difficult, if not IMPOSSIBLE! They don’t WANT us to know!

So much for freedom of speach ………. I knew this site was a fake

and cant handle anti american comments

what i was saying before is the figures dont mean anhything above the most important figure is how many inncoent Iraqis have died because of MORON bush

I already have done that, troll buster, and I would ask all other progressive posters on the TP site, who are sick to death of the troll’s off-topic dung cluttering up all the threads, to do the same.

Thanks.

Now back to the topic:

Increasing the U.S. troops by 37,000 from the level when Rep. Murtha said, “Our military has done everything that has been asked of them, the U.S. can not accomplish anything further in Iraq militarily. It is time to bring them home…,” to the level this month has produced the results shown in The Gavel.

I say, two years later:

Our military has done everything that has been asked of them, the U.S. can not accomplish anything further in Iraq militarily. It is time to bring them home!

Please, troll buster, don’t respond; REPORT it!

Thanks.

Please don’t just ignore the off-topic troll. REPORT it for off-topic ABUSE!

Thanks.

Now on to the topic:

US Troops in Iraq

November 2005 – 138,000

November 2007 – 175,000

Source: THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTION Iraq Index, Tracking Variables of Reconstruction & Security in Post-Saddam Iraq, page 24 (http://www.brookings.edu/saban/~/media/Files/Centers/Saban/Iraq%20Index/index.pdf).

Adding that data to metrics offered by The Gavel and you have an even more complete metrics to assess how the situation in Iraq has changed in the past two years.

Your right, dbadass. My bad.

The topic here is Rep. Murtha’s being smeared for being correct two years ago. A discussion of impeachment is on another thread.

I am writing a series of three articles that put forward the reality of that need in terms of world opinion, the crimes of this administration, and ultimately the danger of allowing this kind of behavior to continue unchecked.

This is the first.

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2007/11/18/so-impeachment-will-make-the-us-look-bad-to-the-rest-of-the-world-is-that-so/

Please do NOT respond to this Troll. Responding to the troll will take us off topic. Report it for Abuse.