Comments on: Bush Administration Stokes Fear Of Massive Army Layoffs To Force Congress To Drop Redeployment

By: zarembisty

zarembisty — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:51:58 +0000

Big words from Mr. Murtha but unfortunately we all know how it is going to end. Pass the “Democrats” version of the bill. Bush Veto. Pass the “Bush” version of the bill because “that’s the right thing to do”. Why not save themselves some time and just pass the Bush version to begin with. Then they could start their vacation early.
I am ashamed to have voted for a democratic congress in the last election. I have never seen such a spineless bunch of idiots who cave under the slightest of pressures.

By: Bartolo

Bartolo — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:59:22 +0000

In the good old days, when budget issues would arise between Congress and the White House, the latter would get the Park Service to threaten to close down the Washington Monument to tourists; the idea being that Congress-people would get heat from constituents wanting to visit D.C.

Now we have come to a better world where civilian employees of the War Dept are threatened with furloughs; here the idea being that we have so many effing bases around the country and world that everyone’s ox will be gored.

By: Bruce Gorton

Bruce Gorton — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:04:06 +0000

cold_hard_left

So your definition of supporting the troops amounts to holding them and their families hostage?

Gee, I wonder how most veterans would view that.

By: gharlane

gharlane — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 03:53:38 +0000

We are where not because the Democrats were powerless, we are where we are because the Democrats are complicit in the pro-war agenda.
Comment by Abby â€” November 20, 2007 @ 5:59 pm

Thatâ€™s crap! What a bunch of bull crap! Sorry, but this whole affair is the failure and responsibility of the GOP, and for you to try to pin it on the democrats is just â€˜tarded. What are you, a Republican propagandist or a green party fool? Itâ€™s hard to tell the difference, considering the green party gets most of its money from the GOP!

Comment by republicans hate facts â€” November 20, 2007 @ 6:40 pm

Way to present a cogent, rational argument there, RHF! Let’s see — name calling (”bull crap”, “‘tarded”, “What are you, a Republican propagandist or a green party fool?”)

What’s factually inaccurate or logically inconsistent in Abby’s post? Hmm?

Sadly, it’s not only Republicans who hate facts.

By: gharlane

gharlane — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 03:50:44 +0000

he Democrats must make this a very public issue by using some message discipline for once. The talking points are:

[snip]
Comment by JMOHR â€” November 20, 2007 @ 2:36 pm

Great suggestions, JMOHR. I place the odds of them doing so at about 27 million to one. Have you forgotten which party we are talking about?

Abby @73 also has a point.

By: MapleStreet

MapleStreet — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 03:43:37 +0000

Don’t pay attention to Murtha. He never served in the military. In fact, does anyone have any proof that his name is really Murtha ? I heard that his middle name was Osama.

(/sarcasm)

By: Keith

Keith — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:16:39 +0000

I think this quote from Henry Kissinger reveals the true feelings of Republican neocons:

â€œMilitary men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.â€

By: Abby

Abby — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:59:06 +0000

This is what professional wrestling looks like, folks. They put up great show where the Democrats get to show some backbone before finally funding the occupation of Iraq (for the troops, people, for the troops) that BOTH the corporate pro-war Parties want. There’s OIL under them sands, or have you forgotten?

Don’t you get it yet? We would not be where we are if we had an opposition Party, even a very small opposition Party, because the Constitution, correctly adhered to, is the great equalizer. We are where not because the Democrats were powerless, we are where we are because the Democrats are complicit in the pro-war agenda.

By: impeachcheneythenbush

impeachcheneythenbush — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:48:42 +0000

“QUESTION: How many billions have we spent already for the Defense Department?

PERINO: The Defense Department says that they need this funding in order to keep the war running, as well as to keep these civiliansâ€¦

QUESTION: Maybe they donâ€™t want the war to keep running.”

BINGO!!!!

By: missmolly

missmolly — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:39:04 +0000

Helen was the hero here. She didnâ€™t let little â€˜eva braunâ€™ off the hook. How anyone can claim to be a christian and then look at America and simply lie to them is unconscienable. I guess little dana thinks Bush can make her sins go away.

Comment by StratRat â€” November 20, 2007 @ 2:19 pm

God bless Helen Thomas! It will be a sad, sad day when she leaves the press room for good.

By: Xisithrus

Xisithrus — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:27:22 +0000

Comment by cold_hard_left â€” November 20, 2007 @ 2:37 pm

Now thats good for national security. Did you know there are 737 bases worldwide and that many are not in any congress persons backyard?

I saw we take all the pork $$ from republican earmarks first.

By: Xisithrus

Xisithrus — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:24:07 +0000

Comment by PaulD â€” November 20, 2007 @ 4:15 pm

Only a brainwashed person would call themselves compassionate, moral, value voter would beat and shock somebody for being against muslim freedom operations in Iraq..

Meanwhile Vicks going to prison for dog fighting….And Mike Tyson will spend one day in jail for a DUI and drugs.

Bizarro World.

By: Xisithrus

Xisithrus — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:18:41 +0000

This just another partisan Bush canard as he could easily create an executive order or fund the war thru his unfiscal budget.
You see keeping the war funded thru supplementals means he can make it look as if the congress is not funding the war, keeping it going and going and going when he SHOULD be funding the war thru the budget and not having this same debate every three months.
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By: PaulD

PaulD — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:15:02 +0000

This isn’t really related (except in terms of rhetorical tactics that keep the war going) but I have to share this.

This is an incredible video of people on FOX & Friends claiming that anti-war demonstrators from Code Pink should be tazed and beaten:

VIDEO –
FOX & Friends: Code Pink People Should Be Tazered, Beaten
http://test.redlasso.com/service/svc/clip/playClip?fid=18e5cf09-afd0-4975-b04b-2c6e7e488a36

By: Xisithrus

Xisithrus — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:08:52 +0000

Comment by fleetadmiralj

Can you say Walter Reed?

By: crackpotpress

crackpotpress — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:08:37 +0000

Why can’t they just Pink Slip Blackwater/Halliburton employees?

By: LividLib

LividLib — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:05:15 +0000

Dumbass,

To quote your Uncle Dick, “Go F_CK yourself!”

By: fleetadmiralj

fleetadmiralj — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:49:35 +0000

It’s not just layoffs are union busting. It’s also cutting counseling for troops, suspending environmental measures, and cutting off social services.

Basically they’re cutting out all the “quaint” liberal-type things the government is providing.

By: Veritas

Veritas — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:30:54 +0000

I’d love to see Congress stand up to this newest in a long line of Bush charades. He’s lying through his teeth and the country knows it. He’s crying like a baby and making idle threats. Let him threaten and even take action. It will only make him and the GOP look even worse.

By: Mugsy

Mugsy — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:30:07 +0000

I say, “Call their bluff and let them do it.”

If they think the *Democrats* will get the blame and the country will side with the Bush Administration when tens of thousands are laid off, no one will point to the guy three steps down the line, they’ll blame the nimrod whose name is on the order to fire them.

Go ahead Georgie, Make our day!