Gibson: WH deserves a medal for outing Plame.
Gibson: WH deserves a medal for outing Plame.
In his “My Word” segment this afternoon, Fox News pundit John Gibson applauded the White House’s decision to blow the identity of covert CIA agent Valerie Plame. “I’m the guy who said a long, long time ago that whoever outed Valerie Plame should get a medal,” Gibson said. “And if it was Karl Rove, I’d pin it on him myself.” Gibson argued the outing of Plame was justified because “this was about an anti-Bush cabal at the CIA” that needed to be “rooted out.” Watch it:
Given the standards that Bush has set for medals (see Norman Podhoretz, George Tenet, and Paul Bremer), it certainly wouldn’t be outside the bounds of White House ethics to find a way to reward “the most insidious of traitors.”
UPDATE: After revealing Bush was “involved” in distributing “false information” about who leaked Plame’s identity, Scott McClellan was doing some damage control today. Peter Osnos, the founder and editor-in-chief of Public Affairs Books, which is publishing McClellan’s book in April, told NBC that McClellan “did not intend to suggest Bush lied to him.”
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Wonder how much Gibson’s getting paid by his superiors and Bush to say this nonsense? He’s one lying sycophantic, lockstep fascist and disgrace to the american people.
Clearly, Gibson’s one of the fascist propaganda mouthpieces – total scum!
November 21st, 2007 at 7:54 pm“did not suggest that Bush lied to him”….ahahahahah! What a ton of total drivel. You’ve got to be kidding if you think that one american citizen actually believes that Bush is not at the bottom of this writhing morass of eels. We know the truth. We also know the spin coming out of the White house. Nothing coming from the lips of Perino et al is truth or can be trusted. Believe absolutely NOTHING you hear on the ass-licking MSM or the in-the-pocket propaganda tools like the Washington Post or the NY Times. They’re all in it together.
November 21st, 2007 at 7:57 pmLet’s ask Gibson about Sybil Edmonds, shall we??
Let’s all write to every media outlet in the country and press for getting Sybil’s testimony today!
November 21st, 2007 at 7:57 pmOh, wait, it’s on Fox. What a surprise! Where else would you be able to hear someone claiming that an anti-war cabal within the CIA was spinning its evil web to ensnare the foreign policy goals of a duly-elected President. I’m sure the three people who watch this idiot on the tv are lapping it up, while anyone else who runs across this clip is looking for a stiff drink.
November 21st, 2007 at 8:00 pmGibson seems to think a democratic president won’t demand the justice department fully investigate this after Bush leaves office. He’s in for a rude surprise, and for a sizeable portion of crow, after the new administration subpoenas Bush and Cheney. Watching them squirm under oath will be the political spectacle of the decade.
November 21st, 2007 at 8:04 pmthere they go again, publishing cut sentences. Why not just publish the whole thing:
“McClellan “did not intend to suggest Bush lied to him” EVEN THOUGH BUSH DID LIE TO HIM.”
November 21st, 2007 at 8:09 pm.
Ahh, and this anti-Bush cabal consisted of Valerie Plame and…who else?
November 21st, 2007 at 8:12 pmMr. Gibson is insane.
November 21st, 2007 at 8:19 pmGibson said. “And if it was Karl Rove, I’d pin it on him myself.â€
What disturbing fantasies this man has.
Karl Rove? And John Gibson? “Pinned”?
Eww.
Double Eww.
November 21st, 2007 at 8:21 pmComment by gummitch — November 21, 2007 @ 8:00 pm
All you ever need to do is look in the lower left corner of the screen; if it says Faux NoNooz, then that’s all you need to know.
And since Gibby believes in protecting traitors in the WH, then that is all we need to know about him, too!
November 21st, 2007 at 8:26 pmGreat, another chickenhawk drunk behind a microphone besmirching the integrity of a person who did serve her country.
November 21st, 2007 at 8:26 pmOnce again, the fine people at Fox News demonstrate to the world that Neo-Conservativism is a mental disorder.
November 21st, 2007 at 8:27 pmDoes Gibson provide ANY evidence of this “vast Left Wing Conspiracy” at the CIA against President Bush?
November 21st, 2007 at 8:29 pmDo these guys understand what treason means? They’re spewing anti-American comments and supporting some of the most egregious crimes that can be committed against the USA. We live in a bizarro world.
November 21st, 2007 at 8:30 pmIF THE WHITE HOUSE DESERVES A MEDAL FOR OUTING VALERIE PLAME. HITLER DESERVES TO BE BEATIFICATED, CANONIZED AND PARDONED. THIS IS THE STATE OF THE FSA, FACISTS STATES OF AMERICA (FORMER USA), TODAY… WHERE AN IBECIL FROM FOX CAN SAY THAT AN ACT OF TREASON DESERVES A MEDAL! FOX DESERVES THE PRESIDENT YOU HAVE!
November 21st, 2007 at 8:32 pmJust one day after excerpts from the upcoming Scott McClellan tell all book suggested President Bush lied about the roles of Karl Rove and Scooter Libby in the Plamegate affair, the publisher is now back-tracking on the explosive claim. But despite a spokesman’s assertion that McClellan “did not intend to suggest Bush lied to him,” a seemingly forgotten 2005 story from the New York Daily News suggests otherwise.
As Perrspectives, Talking Points Memo, the Washington Note and other blogs noted in October 2005, the New York Daily News’ Tom DeFrank revealed that President Bush was apoplectic with Karl Rove in the fall of 2003 over his role in the outing of Valerie Plame.
For the details, see:
November 21st, 2007 at 8:35 pm“NY Daily News: Bush Furious with Rove Over Plame Leak in 2003.”
McClellan SHOULD COME CLEAN! OUT THE WAR CRIMINALS!!! NOW!!! HANG BUSH, CHENNEY, WOLFOWITZ, PERLE, RICE, GATES, NEGROPONTE, AND ALL INVOLVED IN THE FSA’s WAR CRIMES (FSA, FACISTS STATES OF AMERICA)
November 21st, 2007 at 8:36 pmJust whne you think you’ve FINALLY heard, the craziest, nastiest, stupidest thing someone from Fox will ever say…
November 21st, 2007 at 8:40 pmhttp://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/10/20031007-4.html
Office of the Press Secretary
October 7, 2003
NOTE THREE MONTHS AFTER THE STORY FIRST BROKE:
Q Scott, in October of 2001, the President hit the roof over a classified leak of information from Congress. Yet, on this particular leak that you’re dealing with now, he was silent from the 14th of July until 10 days ago. Why did he choose to hit the roof over one leak of classified information, but say nothing about another?
MR. McCLELLAN: We spoke about this the other day, and I’ll be glad to go back through it. One, when this report was published, there was — well, keep in mind, first, that there’s a process in place for reporting the leaking of classified information, and that process worked in this instance.
HE ACKNOWLEDGES THE INFORMATION WAS CLASSIFIED.
Q Well, it was followed in the last instance, too, but he saw fit to hit the roof about it, to shrink the circle of people who were — had access to classified information. And in this particular case, the leak of the CIA agent’s name, equally as sensitive information as was leaked out of the Senate Intelligence Committee in October, the President says nothing about it.
THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THIS INFORMATION LEAK IS “EQUALLY SENSITIVE.â€
The White House goes BAT SHIT when one leak occurs, but seems to love it when an EQUALLY SENSITIVE leak occurs that SERVES THEIR TRAITOROUS AGENDA.
She knew the truth about the WMD program in Iran.
THAT is why they outed Plame. It wasn’t just about her, it was about shutting down BREWSTER JENNINGS.
Personalizing it only serve their interests.
It was about BREWSTER JENNINGS.
November 21st, 2007 at 8:42 pmHere we go again….loyalty to ‘the party’ and the supreme leader trumps loyalty to the country.
November 21st, 2007 at 8:43 pmHow did this disease get established in this country? Didn’t we fight a world war and conduct a decades long cold war against these types of anti-democratic ideologies?
Gibson argued the outing of Plame was justified because “this was about an anti-Bush cabal at the CIA†that needed to be “rooted out.â€
Nothing like persecuting the victim in a crime and falling flat on your back for the criminal. Gibson probably will write to Bush in jail asking to marry him when he gets out.
November 21st, 2007 at 8:43 pmIn Gibson’s mind, “Pro-Truth” = “Anti-Bush”
I’m anti-Bush, because I am pro-Truth.
Thanks for defining yourself, John.
November 21st, 2007 at 8:46 pmI think Gibson is positioning himself to win a prize in Josh Marshall’s contest at TPM. Competition should be fierce among the idiots at Fox for the Worst Commentator or Biggest Lie or Most Outrageous…
November 21st, 2007 at 8:48 pmHere it is from the neocon’s mouth… claiming he is for treason. Wasn’t treason punishable by death at one time? Hundreds may have lost their lives with this outing. Oh well, the neocons seem to love death.
November 21st, 2007 at 8:51 pmSo now treason is OK, but it is not OK to lie about a private affair that is absolutely no one’s business except the wife’s?
Are the masses waking up yet… seeing this MSM for what it really is? It was hour after hour for weeks on Clinton’s affair… not much on the treasonous killer Bush crime family.
ha!! – gibby is out of his f**king mind!! – he says all the way during his speel that plame and wilson were trying,on purpose,to disrupt bush’s war plans – think about that – gibby is admitting that bush wanted to go to war before he got joe wilson’s report!!! – i thought that wilson’s report was crucial in bush deciding WHETHER OR NOT to go after saddam…..at least that’s what we were told…..john gibson,todays worst and plain dumb-as-dogs**t person in the world!!!
November 21st, 2007 at 8:51 pmBeyond commonly used rhetoric at Fox, using ‘My Word’ , Gibson did not add anything to the story of Plame.
November 21st, 2007 at 8:53 pmWhile pretending to get some substance to his claims,nothing was new or proven.
Gibson like others in Fox network seem not to care about the truth,simply mashing few words,as if they were facts together does not bring substance to the story.
Gibson is known to write fluff like he did in the past in his book about war on Christmas and the like.
He in fact questioned Mrs. Palme,her husband loyalty , he accused also others he called cabal working against the interests of this country.
A big and unfounded accusation that he did not support,but went on to make on his show.
Gibson
Our government has been seized by thugs and the “media” is a comedy sketch gone horribly wrong. The nightmare continues, and worsens, with each passing hour. Then, when a member of the inner circle “slips” and confirms our worst fears; history is rewritten on the fly. The only question that really matters is, “will there even be any scraps for the survivors to fight over?”
November 21st, 2007 at 8:54 pm.
I didn’t know that outing a covert CIA agent is an American Principle worthy of a medal.
Gibson hates American Principles.
Why else would he suggest rewarding Treason?
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November 21st, 2007 at 9:01 pmNot only was the outing of Valerie Plame, a covert CIA agent, a crime–it was a treasonous act that jeopardized a war-relevant intelligence operation and the operatives involved while they were working for the US on Iraq war-related activities. This deliberate act of petty revenge is far more heinous than John Walker Lindh’s naivete. All of the perpetrators and their accessories, before aand after the fact, should rot in Guantanamo.
November 21st, 2007 at 9:03 pmHere we go again….loyalty to ‘the party’ and the supreme leader trumps loyalty to the country.
How did this disease get established in this country?
Comment by flavorino
Because of the incredible stupidity and laziness of most Americans.
November 21st, 2007 at 9:13 pmPlame was part of the pro-truth cabal within the CIA who objected to the White House demanding any kind of suggestion that Iraq was doing something wrong—-even if it was 15-20 years old or from an extremely unreliable source like Curveball.
She was head of a group preventing proliferation of WMD in Iraq and Iran. Anyone in the Middle East with connections to Brewster Jennings & Associates could have been killed.
November 21st, 2007 at 9:21 pmThis is another bootlicking, asskissing, brownshirt, talking moron from the FAUXNOIZ network who is helping the fasicist pigs of the neo-conservative cabal destroy our country. This Mr. Bad Hair should be sent to suffer the torture he supports. Treason is treason even if it is by the asskissers lovers.
November 21st, 2007 at 9:37 pmWould anyone expect something different from FOX NEWS?
This is the WH’s propaganda agency! There must be big bucks rolling from the WH into FOX. And they can afford it – they control the OIL in Iraq.
I expected more from John Gibson. But I also expected more from Tony Snow at a certain time….
November 21st, 2007 at 9:39 pmFirst you vehemently deny that anyone in the Bush White House would do such a despicable thing. Then you attempt to minimalize the outing by suggesting that Plame wasn’t covert. Then you argue that the American public doesn’t really care about this nonsense, and that the issue is much ado about nothing. And now you want to give a medal to those responsible.
November 21st, 2007 at 9:46 pmIt’s very hard to admit that the real enemy is us. (At least the sh!t-stains in charge and their sycophants.) The encouraging sign is that many of us have crossed that bridge. It will, most assuredly, get worse but there is some hope.
November 21st, 2007 at 10:01 pmHi BART
Did you see my link to the video? Cool huh?
November 21st, 2007 at 10:09 pmGibson deserves to have a large sharply pointed medal shoved up or down any orifice until he STFU.
November 21st, 2007 at 10:10 pmGibson wants to pin a medal on KKKarl for TREASON!!!….well when you think about it…..treason and Fixed Nooz….fits rather well.
November 21st, 2007 at 10:30 pmand I agree with Bartlebee…the Wilsons deserve the Medal of Freedom…for standing up, not just for them but for the country as a whole.
November 21st, 2007 at 10:34 pmEven if Dumbya is given the benefit of a doubt – something he most surely doesn’t deserve – and let’s say he didn’t know the truth — then he was duped, played for a fool by Cheney, Rove, Card, Libby — all of whom are far smarter than Bush.
November 21st, 2007 at 10:46 pmWhen he learned the truth, he didn’t fire them, he joined them. That makes him a co-conspirator, aiding and abetting the crime of treason. They will stonewall until the end, but there can’t be any denial. They need Dumbya though to keep them all out of prison – he is the only one who can pardon all of them. As for Fox, those propagandists will never admit anything incriminating. They obviously don’t find anything wrong with treason, particularly when committing treason gets your guy out of hot water.
Brewster Jennings was going to show that there were no WMDs, and the White House wouldn’t want that to get out. They would rather blow the cover of an agent, all her contacts, and the years-long work of investigating weapons proliferation, than lose their “golden opportunity” for the control of oil.
This war of lies and death was all for oil.
Gibson is either bat-sh!t crazy, or he is so blinded by his extreme partisanship that he has become one of them.
November 21st, 2007 at 10:52 pmHe makes ridiculous claims “if Joe Wilson had found WMD in Iraq, he wouldn’t have admitted it.” Gibson is a repulsive, disgusting, lying, albino hack, who thinks he should decide when treason is a good thing. Shows us how twisted his mind is.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — November 21, 2007 @ 10:42 pm
Yep. The banana thingy.
November 21st, 2007 at 10:53 pmSeems to me there’s an Anti-American cabal in the Off-White House, Johnny boy. How bout investigating treason, traitor.
November 21st, 2007 at 10:55 pmThe next administration is going to have a lot of cleaning up to do.
November 21st, 2007 at 10:57 pmI really don’t want to let bygones be bygones, I want responsibility and accountability. And lots of rope.
Comment by Marie — November 21, 2007 @ 10:46 pm
You raise a very interesting point. Rather than a veil of “executive privilege” wouldn’t it make sense to try and convict the “little fish” then just pardon them? Granted, Bushie isn’t the sharpest knife on the tree, but, one of the brains should have tried this ploy.
I’m not fond of the idea of criminals, or idiots, seizing control of our country. But idiotic criminals REALLY tick me off.
November 21st, 2007 at 11:04 pmThe “OUTING COVERT CIA AGENTS MEDAL”. Yes, I think Bush deserves that medal and should wear it with utmost dishonor.
After that, I think Gibson should give Bush the “STARTING PHONEY TRILLION DOLLAR WARS BASED ON LIES AND DECEIT MEDAL”. By all means, Bush deserves every traitorous Republican medal they can think up for him to receive.
November 21st, 2007 at 11:05 pmGeez, louise, I didn’t realize that medals were given to traitors. I thought the gallows were given to traitors.
November 21st, 2007 at 11:10 pmThis continuing Republican scandal will make it easier for Mitt and Rudy and the rest of the GOP field to unlock their lips from Bush’s ass–especially since Karl Rove appears to have lost his magical grip on the GOP purse strings–I guess manuevering a sitting president with an approval rating at 88% down to 27% has its consequences. This is the Republican Party’s new set of norms: war, death, corruption, and debt.
November 21st, 2007 at 11:14 pmBush is not not running in ‘08, but many Republicans are and Bush’s Republican failures at home and abroad are making their lives difficult.
November 21st, 2007 at 11:17 pmNo matter! Believe it or not, george Bush is NOT running for President in ‘08!
Comment by John Kerry — November 21, 2007 @ 11:13 pm
believe it or not, neither is john kerry!
you’re setting a new low for stupid tonight!
November 21st, 2007 at 11:31 pmI’m sure there are many things that can be pinned on Karl Rove.
And, well, I am completely unsurprised to hear such cretinous buffoonery from Gibson. He is a blustering, brick-faced poltroon.
November 21st, 2007 at 11:34 pmWell, the JK troll has proven itself insane. It keeps trying the same, irrelevant, argument and hopes for a different result. If any of you know the JK troll , personally, please get it some help. There are meds that can help.
November 21st, 2007 at 11:35 pmJohn Gibson,
For the sake of argument, let’s say there was an anti-Bush cabal at the CIA that needed to be rooted out.
If you had just an iota of intelligence, wouldn’t you think there would be a more effective and less conspicuous way to accomplish the task? You could just transfer people to God forsaken posts around the world. You could just terminate their employment. Or…
…if you thought you were so above the law and you had your head so far up your backside you didn’t think your oath to uphold Constitution was supposed to be taken seriously; then I guess you might think committing treason to settle a personal score woud be a commendable course of action.
John Gibson you are worse than those who have commited the crime. You make me want to spit bile!
November 21st, 2007 at 11:53 pmFOX is State Sponsored TV.
November 21st, 2007 at 11:59 pmShameful disgusting FOX.
Best description ever.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:02 amYou guys seem to forget that nobody got charged for outing Plame, even though Armitage confessed.
So apparently, she wasn’t an agent!!! DUH!
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:04 amOh, and by the way, Arn Gunnutes you need so serious professional help. Your delusional.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:06 amThen why no charges, hmmm?
Maybe an agent, but not covert.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:09 amSuch vitriol. No, McCellan didn’t. Come on, keep up with the news!!!
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:11 amPlame and Wilson are pigs. Their suit got tossed, no one got charged. Talk about distorted fact hating ….
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:12 amComment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 12:04 am
You’ve discredited yourself.
NEXT ALIASS PLEASE!
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:15 amWe invaded the whole country, captured and tortured all of the people who would have tried to buy, refine and and make weapons out of the uranium and we can’t find one piece of evidence that Iraq tried to purchase yellowcake or had a serious program in place to justify the purchase. And the people in our government who deal with these issues on a daily basis and respected the seriousness of going to war, let alone on false pretenses are the real traitors? Other than Sadam being a really bad guy, a fact that many of the key players in the lead up to war should have dealt with in the Reagan years, name one thing that this administration got right on this war. Just one! FOX News is propaganda, period! Wouldn’t it be nice if there were a government agency, say like the FCC, that you could report FOX to?
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:15 amWow, such insights. Not all agents are created equal. Come on, somebody explain why no charges were brought against anyone except Scooter for an inconsistent memory.
WHY WASN’T ARMITAGE CHARGED?
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:15 amOh, and MSNBC and the New York Times are a the paradigm of objective reporting????
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:16 amCome on, Armitage confessed to the special prosecutor. Why wasn’t he charged?
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:17 amIf Plame was a covert agent how come no charges? Armitage outed her to Novak!
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:17 amSimply can’t refrain from name calling here, huh?
Answer the question about Armitage, his alleged crime was what the special prosecutors was looking for in the first place.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:19 amArmitage is a democrat.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:20 amWhy wasn’t he charged?
Whether mastermind or not, it was a crime?
Why no charges.
Plame wasn’t a covert agent!!!!
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:21 amAmazing, simply amazing.
No one here wants to hear the truth!
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:22 amThe crime doesn’t require an evil intent, only that he did it. He did it and should have been charged, but wasn’t. So the only obvious conclusion is that Plane wasn’t a covert agent within the meaning of the statute.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:25 amNO IT DID NOT.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:26 amClearly you want to believe lies. So be it.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:27 amNo Baffbee, wrong on 2 counts!!!
Mclellan clarified today and cleared Bush.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:29 amIn this country one isn’t charged unless the prosecution decides to prosecute. In this case charges would have to be brought by the DOJ. Bush has turned the DOJ into a front to cover his illegal actions. Eventually, however, Bush’s private legal team (the DOJ) will be fumigated and justice will return to the halls of power.
I’ll write the rest of this real slow:
Those accused of these crimes are in charge
of prosecuting said crimes.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:32 amYou can be guarranteed that the Bush Thugs have been calling all the MSM talking heads and superiors and laying down the threats if they don’t spin this away from the Mafia Don Bush.
Criminals All.
Bush/Cheney
Hague Trials ‘09
Buck Fush
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:34 amCome on, use the gray matter. If all he did was mention a name and didn’t say she was an agent then indeed there was no crime. However, he did mention that she was an agent and should have been charged!
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:34 amMclellan clarified today and cleared Bush.
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 12:29 am
Another bald-faced lie. His publisher issued the statement in order to avoid possible lawsuits.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:35 amI’m not staying up past my bed time to argue with this idiotic POS.
G’night humans.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:36 amYou too troll.
With Hillary going down in flames, I’m gonna really enjoy the election next year when another republican takes office!!!
LMFAO!
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:38 amtsk, tsk, all the name calling. can’t you guys carry on an intelligent conversation without resorting to such school yard behavior?
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:41 amDennis, you like Dennis??
snicker, snicker
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:44 amyou guys like the UFO believer?
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:45 amsnicker
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:45 amNo wonder there is so much vitriol on this site.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:47 amFitzgerald couldn’t hold hearings.
A judge could.
Fitzgerald could participate.
A shame you guys can’t think for your selves.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:50 amNo wonder there is so much vitriol on this site.
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 12:47 am
Treason does tend to bring out vitriol among people who love their country more than any particular party or person.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:50 amBaffbe, may I suggest professional counseling? You really do need some assistance with your delusional rants.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:52 amPlame may have been working for the CIA, but nobody proved she was a covert agent or Armitage should have been charged.
Can’t get around those facts.
And nobody here has been able to suggest why he wasn’t charged.
But that doesn’t stop you from denigrating someone whose trying to help you understand.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:55 amtsk tsk tsk, what a bozo.
Is that better barffbe?
Do you feel justified in your name calling now?
Does your pathetic microscopic ego feel better now that I called you a name.
Still doesn’t change the facts that Armitage should have been charged.
LMFAO
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:57 amWho’s the new fool, this one is a throw back for sure.
Hey, Con10 suck on this, oh wait you’d like that…my bad.
Gosh, they could at least supply an intelligent one, the regular RNC trolls must be on Thanksgiving holliday.
Buck Fush
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:58 amNo you delusional twit, she may have been working on some code named operation, but not as a covert agent, otherwise Armitage would have broken the law.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:59 amDang, I did it again, another name.
I suppose your feel even more justified.
Oh, well, everyone knows that anything on 60 minutes is the truth.
Oh, wait a minute, didn’t Dan Rather get in trouble for false information on 60 minutes?
Hmmmm, I’m pretty sure I recall something like that.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:01 amcon10tious loses every time out, and never learns. fact-free and antiAmerican, as always. just like the little boy marching in the parade, when called on for being out of step, claims that everybody else is out of step. nothing new here, con10tious, enjoy hillary’s destruction of the right wing using the powers of the unitary exec. it will be grand; perpwalks every day, whole republican wings of federal prisons. lay in plenty of popcorn.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:02 amI reported as Abuse for Spamming the site.
Con10 sounds like Jake D. Fakes little sister.
Buck Fush
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:03 amOh, so you would rather believe that Armitage having confessed to Fitzgerald wasn’t sufficient for a prosecution?
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense…. NOT!
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:03 amReasonable discourse is spamming the site???
I guess you like thinking individuals would prefer to simply have everyone concur with every little utterance rather then proceed with civil discourse.
Oh, and your clever little subterfuge is supposed to hide your cussing?
Pathetic, truly pathetic!
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:06 amThe new troll is talking about lack of credibility for getting things wrong?
How about the entire Bush administration that got their facts wrong about Iraq’s WMD?
Not to mention that, this late in the game, everyone knows Plame was indeed a covert agent. The director of the CIA himself said so.
These trolls argue like Creationists: Belief in spite all evidence.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:08 amWhy would a democrat advance a Bush conspiracy?
snicker
That’s truly funny!
snicker
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:08 amOh, wait a minute, didn’t Dan Rather get in trouble for false information on 60 minutes?
Hmmmm, I’m pretty sure I recall something like that.
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 1:01 am
Actually, the information was perfectly true, and remains so. Your rightwing noise machine managed to once again cloud the issue with lies and irrelevancies, the usual Republican treason, something they do very well, and you support them at consistently. they face the gallows; you’re just an irrelevant member of the lunatic fringe of American society.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:08 amcome on get over the WMD stuff. Even Hillary made a speech about them. And John voted for them before he was against them.
That’s right, if you can’t win on the facts, back peddle and smear.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:10 amThat’s right, if you can’t win on the facts, back peddle and smear.
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 1:10 am
so you’re still claiming there were WMD? wow, you don’t even bother with facts, but that’s understandable, since they’re all against you.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:11 amThe information was true. An alleged typed document in a font that didn’t exist.
But the information was true.
Come on, get over it. Rather showed his true “progressive” colors and I for one am glad he got fired.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:12 am“win on the facts”? Well, that’s rich.
It doesn’t matter what Hillary said. It is completely irrelevant. She didn’t order the invasion. Same goes for Kerry.
And pointing out how the entire Bush administration was wrong about Iraq’s WMD hardly qualifies as “smear”. Someone needs to brush up on the English skills.
Plus, as I already pointed out, Plame was undercover. Hayden said so. That is a fact.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:14 amComment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 1:12 am
aren’t you embarrassed by your ignorance and retardedness. What’s an “alleged typed document” how can a font not exist?
At least you recognize that the information was true, proving that your loser president is a deserter in wartime. perfect role model for antiAmerican scum like you.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:14 amRather resigned, by the way. You never get it right.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:15 amNotice how the troll whines about the “smear” against the Bush administration but is perfectly comfortable bringing up Dan Rather’s story.
Hypocrisy? Nah, ya think?
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:18 amMan, having to explain the facts to those that ride the small bus …
The docs Rather relied on were alleged to have been created by a typewriter. Only problem is that the font wasn’t available on a typewriter.
They were doctored which is why he got fired for failing to take even the smallest opportunity to vet the docs before reporting the negative story about Bush.
Understand now?
I guess you probably won’t want to acknowledge these facts either.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:18 amCheney, w, Rove, Libby and Con10 are all traitors who hate America for her freedoms.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:19 amNot only was the outing of Valerie Plame, a covert CIA agent, a crime–it was a treasonous act that jeopardized a war-relevant intelligence operation and the operatives involved while they were working for the US on Iraq war-related activities. This deliberate act of petty revenge is far more heinous than John Walker Lindh’s naivete. All of the perpetrators and their accessories, before aand after the fact, should rot in Guantanamo.
Comment by Doc Rock
Sorry Doc,
Treason in wartime is punishable by DEATH.
And Con10tious, that goes for the likes of the little fu(knut heads like you who promote the traitors.
I have one question traitor, hemp or nylon?
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:19 amIt’s also rather interesting how many Republicans are jumping ship in a futile effort to rid themselves of the stink if Bush; even Rove has cut and run. Many of these cowards will see the inside of jail cells, I will celebrate.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:20 amHe resigned in lieu of getting fired. Small difference. He was forced out. That’s why he brought the suit. You do remember the suit don’t you?
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:20 amThe docs Rather relied on were alleged to have been created by a typewriter. Only problem is that the font wasn’t available on a typewriter.
They were doctored which is why he got fired for failing to take even the smallest opportunity to vet the docs before reporting the negative story about Bush.
Understand now?
I guess you probably won’t want to acknowledge these facts either.
Comment by Con10tious
Wrong again.
The DOCUMENTS he presented were supposedly falsified, but the INFORMATION they contained were ALL TRUE. Even the wife of the person quoted said so.
So, now, once again, you are proven sooooo WROOONNNGGG.
AND RATHER QUIT, He was NOT fired.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:22 amNo ones going to jail, so you’ll being waiting a long time.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:23 am“He resigned in lieu of getting fired.”
Comment by Con10tious
Sort of like Tom Delay right?
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:23 amI guess you probably won’t want to acknowledge these facts either.
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 1:18 am
And you don’t want to acknowledge that the secretary that typed the original documents (which were illegally destroyed by Rove) stated that the facts were true, and not doctored in any way. It must be difficult to face each day with the knowledge that your leader is a traitor and a deserter, but maybe not for such a lowlife as you, who spends his every waking minute frustrated by being an absolute loser and outcast, in the company of traitors and lunatics. Too bad, you deserve it. Kiss the GOP goodbye, they’re all done.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:24 amNo ones going to jail, so you’ll being waiting a long time.
Comment by Con10tious
Yes, a hanging we will go, a hanging we will go, Hi ho a merry o, a hangin we will go.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:24 amSo whose arguing that the outing wasn’t a crime. I agree. All I asked was why Armitage didn’t get charged after he confessed and no one here seems to be able to offer a valid reason. They all want to call me names and swear that the media got the story right, but not Fitzgerald.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:25 amNo ones going to jail, so you’ll being waiting a long time.
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 1:23 am
Oh, I don’t think it will be that long a wait. Your traitor-in-chief can only pardon so many of his criminals; he’s bound to miss several, being the moron he is.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:25 amSo whose arguing that the outing wasn’t a crime. I agree. All I asked was why Armitage didn’t get charged after he confessed and no one here seems to be able to offer a valid reason. They all want to call me names and swear that the media got the story right, but not Fitzgerald.
Comment by Con10tious
The same reason you have not been brought up on treason charges yet.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:26 am“All in good time, my pretty, all in good time.”
We are gonna get you all you fu(king mother fu(kers.
It is not hate, it is ANGER mofo.
Fact of the matter is W was AWOL because he is a rich spoiled chicken crap of a human being….just the kind or arrogant privileged, never worked a day in his life miserable excuse for a human that Republicans love. Dan Rather’s poop pile is of more importance and has more integrity than the Gibson.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:26 amMan you just don’t get it, do you. How could she have typed the documents with a typewritter that didn’t exist?
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:27 amSo whose arguing that the outing wasn’t a crime. I agree. All I asked was why Armitage didn’t get charged after he confessed and no one here seems to be able to offer a valid reason. They all want to call me names and swear that the media got the story right, but not Fitzgerald.
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 1:25 am
Asked and answered. Whoever’s reading this to you is missing the key points.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:27 amMan you just don’t get it, do you. How could she have typed the documents with a typewritter that didn’t exist?
Comment by Con10tious
You are obviously beyond stupid
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:27 amMan you just don’t get it, do you. How could she have typed the documents with a typewritter that didn’t exist?
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 1:27 am
so you never heard of computers, either? are you confined to an institution? I hope so, for your own good. keep trying the evasion and the framing; it doesn’t work here.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:28 amMan you just don’t get it, do you. How could she have typed the documents with a typewritter that didn’t exist?
Comment by Con10tious
You are obviously beyond stupid
Comment by Bush is a TRAITOR
Actually, I take that back.
You are obviously beyond TREASON, fore you NEVER liked America, and it shows in every post.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:30 amMan you just don’t get it, do you. How could she have typed the documents with a typewritter that didn’t exist?
Comment by Con10tious
You are obviously beyond stupid
Comment by Bush is a TRAITOR
No traitor boy, you are. What part of impossible don’t you understand?
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:30 amToo bad Con10 isn’t a type writer that doesn’t exist.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:31 amIf Rove gets a medal then Con10 wants one too.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:33 amAnother aspect of the story that our new little troll got wrong, is that Rather didn’t file a lawsuit against CBS for being fired, but because he feels he was made a scapegoat after the story was proven false.
You see, CBS cleverly distanced themselves from Rather and his team, making it look almost as if he was working solo on this story when he wasn’t.
But it was far more expedient to blame Rather alone. And it’s far easier to go on a political web site and carry water for the Bush administration: All our troll has to do is parrot Republican talking points, facts be damned.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:33 amNo traitor boy, you are. What part of impossible don’t you understand?
Comment by Con10tious
Look you fu(king fool, the current documents were re-written as exacts duplicates. You fu(king miscreant motherfu(king traitors knew that the originals were destroyed so you seized that aspect to smear the truth IN THE DOCUMENTS.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:35 amWhat part of TRUTH do you not understand coxsucker?
I can’t wait to hang the fu(king whole mess of you fu(kers.
told NBC that McClellan “did not intend to suggest Bush lied to him.†November 21, 2007 7:51 pm | Comment (181)
No, he just wanted me to lie to the American people, but I’m not as bald faced as Rove.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:37 amNo traitor boy, you are. What part of impossible don’t you understand?
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 1:30 am
what part of destroying government documents don’t you understand? You have no argument here; it’s all been made perfectly clear, covered up to the highest levels, but only a psychopathic moron like you would believe the bullshit that Rove has shovelled to fill your mouth all these years. you can cite your “kerning” day and night, and it doesn’t change the fact that Bush is a deserter and a traitor. Only a handful of sycophantic anti- Americans like you don’t understand that. You’re in a tine, ever-shrinking minority; most Americans now know full well that Bush never completed his military obligations, that he was a drunk and drug user, that he bought his way into a safe unit, that he bought his college degrees, and that the White House was bought and paid for so that the puppet could dance to the tune of the America-hating right. We all know it, and histiry will confirm it all. if the Republic survives this cabal of traitors, thieves, liars and mass-murderers, they will go down in history with exactly those descriptions, and the few nutcases like you that still defend their treason will be the modern-day “Good Germans”, as Bush will be aptly compared with Hitler.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:37 amDo you honestly believe that line of bull, crap you only hear on right hate America talk news? If they are not smearing progressives they are lying. Little truth, if any, comes from that crap show. Plame was a covert agent… if she was not there would be no story. She was outed by the Bush crime family, a treasonous act punishable by death. Why haven’t any charges been made? Because it is business as usual… nothing but lies and corruption.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:39 amBy all means, let’s talk about getting one’s facts wrong.
Very, very wrong. Horribly wrong. Catastrophically wrong, for the whole world to see.
At the tune of several million dollars a week (or is billion dollars?), thousands of dead, wounded, maimed, and traumatised for life.
And let’s not forget the millions of displaced by the war.
Where are them WMD? Democracy in the ME? The reconstruction of Iraq’s civil society? Where are all these things?
Yeah, let’s talk about getting one’s facts wrong.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:41 amIt is $2 billion a week.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:41 amThat big sucking sound is not Con10tious suckling at the teet of Darth Cheney, it is the Whorporations sucking the U.S. Treasury dry.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:42 amLefty, you are anything but a patriot.
You are a foul mouthed twit whose hatred has overtaken everybit of reasoning power you might have ever had.
You have no proof of any of your facts but that doesn’t stop you from spreading your vile comments.
I think you are simply jealous and in dire need of some counseling to get over your Bush envy.
Please do so before you hurt some one other then yourself!
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:43 amLittle peon pussy boy.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:45 amWhat are you like a 14 or 15 inch neck?
I am making nooses as I type.
Little fu(king lord Fontleroy
Swing motherfu(ker, swing from the Whitehouse protico. Just like Mussolini. Little Fascist Motherfu(ker.
Bush lies constantly. Cheney is sticking to his “last throes” line. Rove is nothing but dirty tricks. Joe Wilson told them a bit of truth so they outed his wife. Her career was ruined and our country lost an important undercover operation. Many lives were put in danger and much valuable intelligence has been lost. The liars in charge don’t care about knowing what the truth is. they just know how to rip off the US treasury. Con10 and Gibson are just braid dead suck ups who also don’t want to know the truth. Astounding willful ignorance.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:45 amThe real question I have is; would you still have you mouth placed firmly around Bush’s prick or would your whole head be up his arse?
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:46 amYou should be scared Con10tious dickhead. We are coming. We are coming from every nook and cranny. Every alley and corner. We are coming, and we will expunge this great country of the likes of you and bush. And then we will taste justice, oh sweet justice, will ring from every courthouse, and every square. And in the clamor of bells, will be heard the shrill whining of the traitors like yourself Con10tious. Calling out for the other sychophants who corrupted the very gizzards of the country. But we must, and we will, rid ourselves of you, the most heinous of cancers.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:50 am189 Con10tious,
If you are so confident on your facts, why bother with personal attacks to TP posters? In your post to Lefty, I sense a desperation on your part and you are way off topic.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:51 amOk, you narrow minded little pukes win.
Fitzgerald didn’t charge Armitage despite the fact that he confessed and Novak confirmed it because the media said so.
Makes perfect sense. No prosecutor wants to win with a confession and a confirmation. Too easy, too pedestrian.
I am truly going to enjoy the angst on this website when another Republican takes office.
LMFAO!
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:51 amI am truly going to enjoy the angst on your face when another Republican gets thrown in jail.
REALLY LMFAO!
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:52 amOne mistake is supposed to cost Rather his credibility on anything he’s ever said, both before and after the fiasco.
But what is probably the biggest military fiasco in US history (at least one historian argues that is it the biggest since 9BC), and all the subsequent blunders this president has made in a short 7 year span, don’t cost him any credibility with his blind followers.
Aaah…. the comforts of living unencumbered by a functioning brain…
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:53 amI am truly going to enjoy the angst on this website when another Republican takes office.
LMFAO!
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 1:51 am
I doubt you’ll live long enough to see that. It will likely be another 80 years to never again.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:55 am194 – because lefty started it and because its obviously the only thing he understands.
No desperation, only the truth!
Hillary’s imploding the dems got nothing because Hill & Bill forced everyone good out. Except of course for Dennis K. LOL
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:56 am“Makes perfect sense. No prosecutor wants to win with a confession and a confirmation. Too easy, too pedestrian.”
Comment by traitor Con10tious
See it is always about the personal success. Never about what is right and just. Did you even read any of the posts above? All of your illogical screeds on this matter were answered and re-answered. This board is not yours, it is ours, SO GET THE FU(K OFF. Yes, if you had rational thoughts to offer you could stay, but alas, as usual you do not, so GET THE FU(K OFF.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:57 amno, jb, Jan 09!
Its coming and oh how sweet it will be!!!!
I’ll be back on election night to gloat!!!!
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:57 amI am truly going to enjoy the angst on your face when another Republican gets thrown in jail.
REALLY LMFAO!
Comment by Bush is a TRAITOR — November 22, 2007 @ 1:52 am
Seems to be happening with some regularity. And things are just now beginning to be investigated. We may need a new wing added to some of our multitude of prisons just to house all these traitors.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:58 amWhy, oh why do you guys respond to this idiot? You are getting baited by a total Fascist Repukian Dumbass Troll who has the mind of a 12 year old.
Cripes, I am just amazed sometimes that you try and debate a total retard.
This little fella has his little RNC list of Repukian talking points right next to him and he is out to disrupt you as much as possible.
As usual, ignore this idiot, by the way, he sounds alot like that idiot Jake D. Fake, known liar.
Buck Fush
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:59 am“We may need a new wing added to some of our multitude of prisons just to house all these traitors.”
Comment by jb
Hell no, I do’;t want to give another dollar to another whorporaton, and that is what runs the jails now. So I say, hang em all and hang em high, and hang em publically.
November 22nd, 2007 at 2:00 amTraitor, what are you afraid of, that there may be some truth to what I said?
snicker!
LOL
LMFAO
November 22nd, 2007 at 2:00 amAnd may we start with the self professed traitors!!!!
November 22nd, 2007 at 2:01 amHanging them, that is!!!!
November 22nd, 2007 at 2:02 am“And may we start with the self professed traitors!!!!”
Comment by Con10tious
Con10tious say hello to mirror.
November 22nd, 2007 at 2:02 amEspecially Lefty!!!!
November 22nd, 2007 at 2:03 amGOP has no idea how to get out of the mess they have made of the world, the economy, the falling status of the USA. They have no legitimate candidates for Pres., Cross dressing egotist liar, guys that don’t believe there is or has been such thing as evolution…..oh yeah, they got tax cuts too bad it hasn’t done any good for our country…evident in the long slide down since Raygun, but don’t worry we’re picking up steam and the whole country will be trickling down to hell to join Ronnie soon. Thanks GOP.
November 22nd, 2007 at 2:05 amWheewww!
Can’t take the stupidity any more. But I’ll be back. Especially election night to hear all the new rants and lies about why you small minded twits think you lost!!!!
November 22nd, 2007 at 2:05 amWhy, oh why do you guys respond to this idiot? You are getting baited by a total Fascist Repukian Dumbass Troll who has the mind of a 12 year old.
November 22nd, 2007 at 2:06 ambuck fush
because it is so easy to prove them wrong.
Hell no, I do’;t want to give another dollar to another whorporaton, and that is what runs the jails now. So I say, hang em all and hang em high, and hang em publically.
Comment by Bush is a TRAITOR — November 22, 2007 @ 2:00 am
Rope is cheap enough even I could buy a good long length. Let’s git-r-dun.
November 22nd, 2007 at 2:07 amCIA Director Hayden: Valerie Plame Was Covert Agent
Posted Mar 16th 2007 11:41AM by David Knowles
“This will be a bitter pill for some conservatives to swallow. CIA Director Michael Hayden personally reviewed and okayed Henry Waxman’s opening statement for Valerie Plame’s testimony today. Furthermore, Hayden took pains to set the record straight: Plame was indeed a covert agent up until the day Robert Novak revealed as much to the public.”
http://news.aol.com/elections-blog/2007/03/16/cia-director-hayden-valerie-plame-was-covert-agent/
November 22nd, 2007 at 2:13 amCon10,
You are unbelieveably gullible if you believe that W showed up for the National Guard in Alabama and not one single person can remember ever seeing the wild son of a congressman—even if offered a huge reward for remembering.
His failure to show up began at the precise time that the drug test began being a part of the flight physical. No takie drug test, no can flyie. His only duty was flying, therefore no point in showing up.
November 22nd, 2007 at 2:18 amCon10,
Did you know you lost the 2006 election by about 11%. That’s huge if you consider the “Revolution of 1994″ was only 3%! Or 1%, if you consider that 2/3rds did not even vote at all! Some revolution!
November 22nd, 2007 at 2:21 amMore “reasonable discourse” from our room temperature IQ troll:
Plame wasn’t a covert agent!!!!
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 12:21 am
This after we all know she was a over agent because the director of the CIA at the time confirmed she was.
Of course, part of his “reasonable discourse” strategy is to ignore this fact whenever pointed out, and change the subject instead.
November 22nd, 2007 at 3:13 amArmitage, considered to be a conservative “neo con” (neo-conservative), is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
[1]
http://www.foreignpolicy2000.org/convention/
He is one of the signers of the January 26, 1998, Project for the New American Century PNAC letter to President William Jefferson Clinton.
http://theindependentvoice.tripod.com/theindependentvoice/index.blog?entry_id=417960
[2] http://www.channel4.com/news/2003/special_reports/pnacletter.html
He is also a former board member for CACI International, the private military contractor, which “is being investigated by no less than 5 US agencies for possible contract violations” and “employed four interrogators at Abu Ghraib prison” in Iraq, one of whom was singled out by General Taguba in his report on abuses of Iraqi detainees at the prison.
[3]
http://counterpunch.org/palmer06152004.html
(snip)
“Richard Armitage, one of the Iran-Contra plotters, was a board member of Database Technologies (DBT)/ChoicePoint Inc before taking office under George Bush Jr. … Choicepoint is a partner of data mining company SAIC whose web site proclaims it has “developed a strategic alliance with ChoicePoint Incorporated to provide our clients with quick and effortless information retrieval from public records data. ChoicePoint Incorporated maintains thousands of gigabytes of public records data.”"
[5]
http://www.counterpunch.org/solo10012003.html
Wiki also says that in some of his government positions, he was a covert operative. But he didn’t know he should not be discussing information obtained from a classified document with reporters? He’s just “prone to gossip,†but they let him have access to classified info anyway. The little slime! I hope Valerie can bleed him dry financially for what he did. I for one will never buy that he didn’t do anything deliberately to hurt her or her husband. All of his prior experience says that he knew better.
Ann in AZ | 08.29.06 – 11:36 pm |
November 22nd, 2007 at 3:56 amARMITAGE KNIGHTED BY THE CROWN:
http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1294
4/25/2006
OMG: Meet Richard Armitage, Knight Commander
Richard Armitage, the number two man at Colin Powell’s state department, has been knighted “for services to US-UK relations.†Presumably this is a reference to his diplomatic exertions on behalf of the invasion of Iraq.
Armitage, one of the innumerable Bush administration graduates of the Reagan era Iran-Contra school of murderous skullduggery, was made a Knight Commander of the Order of St. Michael and St. George (KCMG).
He was joined on the honours list by several US military officers, including Captain John Peterson.
Peterson’s claim to fame? “Peterson, chief of staff to the commander of the US navy in the Middle East, was awarded a CBE (Commander of the British Empire) for – according to the Pentagon – leading British and American forces “in the campaign to secure Iraqi oil assets†at the start of the 2003 invasion.â€
Absent his outstanding service, Iraq might be a shambles.
The news comes to us courtesy of Chris Floyd, who notes Armitage’s efforts on behalf of US-drug dealing terrorist relations during the Iran-Contra affair, and wonders whether even higher honors might be in store for the future former president, assuming that happy designation ever applies.
“ If Armitage gets this kind of gilded wheeze for mere minioning in some of the most murderous operations of the past half-century, then great googily-moogily, what’s George W. going to get, when he retires, for actually being the trigger-man for the world-convulsing killing spree in Iraq? Not to mention his relentless and ruthless gutting of the U.S. Constitution? What honor would suffice for this sterling service? No mere knighthood or baronage will do; Lizzie will have to adopt him into the royal family or something, name him heir to the throne.
After all, his whole life’s work has been aimed at overthrowing the American Revolution and restoring feudal rule by aristocrats, warlords, religious cranks and simpering courtiers. Why not just bring the whole thing full circle back to Buckingham Palace?â€
Armitage — whose former boss, Powell, was made a Knight Commander of The Most Honourable Order of the Bath (KCB), one letter less but one notch above Armitage’s KCMG, for his services in the first Gulf War — was nominated for the honor by British foreign minister Jack Straw, who is no doubt in line for recognition of his own role in facilitating the Mother of All Train Wrecks in Iraq.
November 22nd, 2007 at 3:57 amCHENEY’S DAUGHTER WORKED FOR ARMITAGE !!!
ARMITAGE ASSOCIATES?
Story cached here:
http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:LBJvw5zYj00J:www.upi.com/view.cfm%3FStoryID%3D28022002-082742-5255r+cheney%27s+daughter+armitage+associates&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1
Cheney’s daughter offered State Dept. job
By ELI J. LAKE
UPI State Department Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Feb. 28 (UPI) — As Vice President Dick Cheney prepares for his tour of the Arab world next month, the State Department’s Near East Affairs Bureau is wooing his daughter for a high-level post, United Press International has learned.
Earlier this month, the State Department officially offered Elizabeth Cheney-Perry a job as the deputy assistant secretary of state for Near East affairs for regional economic issues, according to State Department and administration officials.
These officials — who spoke on condition of anonymity — tell UPI the new post was created specifically for the vice president’s daughter, adding that she will work primarily on economic development in the Middle East.
Prior to attending law school, Cheney-Perry worked for the State Department and the U.S. Agency for International Development between 1989 and 1993. After 1993, she took a job at Armitage Associates LLP, the consulting firm founded by the current deputy secretary of state, Richard Armitage. “She is actually an Armitage person, which a lot of people at the department are,” one senior State Department official told UPI on Thursday.
http://www.alternet.org/story/37490
The Other Cheney Behind the Scenes
By Robert Dreyfuss, The American Prospect. Posted June 13, 2006.
Since 2005, Dick Cheney’s daughter Elizabeth has held a powerful position guiding Middle East policy. And like father, like daughter: Liz is a key player in the push for regime change in Iran and Syria.
At the very heart of U.S. Middle East policy, from the war in Iraq to pressure for regime change in Iran and Syria to the spread of free-market democracy in the region, sits the 39-year-old daughter of Vice President Dick Cheney. Elizabeth “Liz” Cheney, appointed to her post in February 2005, has a tongue-twisting title: principal deputy assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern Affairs and coordinator for broader Middle East and North Africa initiatives. By all accounts, it is an enormously powerful post, and one for which she is uniquely unqualified.
During the past 15 months, Elizabeth Cheney has met with and bolstered a gaggle of Syrian exiles, often in tandem with John Hannah and David Wurmser, top officials in the Office of the Vice President (OVP); has pressed hard for money to accelerate the administration’s ever more overt campaign for forced regime change in both Damascus and Teheran; and has overseen an increasingly discredited push for American-inspired democratic reform from Morocco to Iran.
The Bush/Cheney administration has moved quickly to ensure U.S. corporate control over Iraqi resources at least through the year 2007.
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2003/10/101475.shtml
Peter S. Watson, prior to becoming Chairman, President & CEO of the U.S. Overseas Private Investment Corporation, was Counsel to Winthrop Stimpson Putnam & Roberts advising on international business and trade policy matters.
He concurrently served as Senior Advisor to Armitage Associates, L.C. (As did Dick Cheney’s daughter, who was given the newly created post Undersecretary of State for Middle east Development.) National Security Advisor Condolliza Rice proudly admits she is also an Armitage protege.
THIS IS “ARMITAGE INTERNATIONALâ€
Founded in March of 2005:
http://www.armitageinternational.com/news/
November 22nd, 2007 at 3:57 amMichael Isikoff is part of the attempted coverup.
His sloganeering on behalf of the Administration includes that “Armitage is known to be a Gossip.â€
He repeated that slogan constantly in recent interviews.
That is a pure Rovian Talking Point.
A “Gossip” about highly Classified matters of national security?
That Plame’s covert status was revealed is PEANUTS as compared to the revelation and subsequent closure of a highly valued INTELLIGENCE PROGRAM.
It was the Brewster Jennings PROGRAM that was outed.
Remember when Bush went bat shit over the outing of his NSA DOMESTIC WIRE TAPPING PROGRAM?
The Administration is threatening to imprison those at the New York Times who revealed this “CLASSIFIED COVERT PROGRAM.”
Which PROGRAM was of the greatest value to our national security?
I thought the threat of WMD was the greatest threat – at least according to this administration.
Got DOUBLE STANDARD?
November 22nd, 2007 at 3:59 amThis war of lies and death was all for oil.
Comment by Marie — November 21, 2007 @ 10:46 pm
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Nobody could have have said it better!
November 22nd, 2007 at 5:39 amCon10 is expressing the repressed rage inside himself or herslf. Just imagine the rage inside Larry Craig’s wife or David Vitter’s. How can someone admit publically that they have been a fool for believing the person they trusted. It is eaiser to continue living the lie than face the truth.
Taking into consideration that the likes of Con10 are probably people of faith helps explain the susceptibility to falling for lies their dear leader feeds them. Many probably live very shallow lives void of contact with people who are different than themselves.
November 22nd, 2007 at 6:37 amThe Plame case teaches us something important: when the pressure’s on, Republicans forget whose side they’re on. They are unfit to run an elevator, much less a country.
November 22nd, 2007 at 6:44 amGibson and Rove can SHARE a cell at Gitmo – better yet in Egypt!! They can practice pinning the plastic medallion on each other for the next 100 years!!!
Probably smell the same then….
November 22nd, 2007 at 7:00 amMcClellan’s book should be purchased ONCE and then copied and redistributed–he shouldn’t be able to make a dime off this.
November 22nd, 2007 at 7:24 amI’m sorry, to me it was obvious as he (McClellan) stood at that podium that claiming that no one from the White House inner circle was involved that he was lying through his teeth. Every press conference he held during that time, he was greasy and covered in the flop sweats. And you could tell by his responses and irritation that he was lying.
Hey Gibson! Ask yourself something. Do YOU believe that the President and Vice President can be wrong about anything? Remember, John, they are human beings. If you say no–that they are infallible, you are a fascist mouthpiece boot-licking tool. If yes, tell us why government agencies need to be able to inform the President and especially the public if they believe the President’s positions are dangerously in error. Also, tell us how this function could be construed as an “anti-Bush cabal”–especially when subsequent history has proven that the “anti-Bush cabal” was correct in their assertions. To me it looks like the people at the CIA were just doing their constitutionally mandated jobs. To you, it seems, they were committing treason. Go ahead–answer us. We’re waiting.
November 22nd, 2007 at 7:28 amThis war of lies and death was all for oil.
Comment by Marie — November 21, 2007 @ 10:46 pm
————
Speaking of hiding your head in the sand …
The left wing media has you so distrustful of the President, whose job acceptance numbers are almost twice those of Pelosi and Reid, that you latch onto anything other than the truth.
If Iraq was for oil, how come gas prices are increasing? Why aren’t we siphoning off great amounts of the stuff to our use?
Iraq was about WMDs & terrorism.
November 22nd, 2007 at 7:59 am233 – Public agencies need to be able to inform. Plame and her dead beat “ambassador” husband who was yanked for stupidity shortly after be became an ambassador didn’t do a very good job of “investigating” anything and then pretended to use his questionable credentials to validate the boondoggle to Africa that his wife procured for him. Then some left wing nut jobs in the press whose tiny minds resonated to the tune of Wilson’s rants did the rest. Come on, think about it, how many other hard news stories are covered in Vanity Fair?
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:06 amIf you didn’t know that Gibson was a whacko, this should do it for you – or you are just plain stupid.
Valarie Plame was a vital asset in preventing nuclear weapons proliferation and Bush outed her to cover his dispicable actions – of which there is no shortage. The man is just plain unworthy of the presidency.
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:06 am232 – Good loretta advocate larceny because you don’t agree with someone. Sound, practical advice … NOT.
If you don’t agree with McClellan of Gibson, then don’t buy their books or listen to their stories.
But at least acknowledge that they have a right to an opposing views.
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:10 amCon10troll is sputtering with so much bitterness and anger that I think perhaps he has some personal skin in the game.
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:12 amThings are getting pretty rough for the traitors these days. They see their future closing in on them fast. Permanent minority status, indictments next, then jail time.
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:13 am236 – OK, so let me get this straight. President Bush relied on intelligence from the CIA to utilize the power given to him by the Senate and to take a stand that the UN failed to do despite having passed how many resolutions was it, 40? And now you denigrate all the CIA because their intelligence was faulty, except of course the one CIA employee with whom you agree? Plame??? Who by the very act of securing a boondoggle to Africa for her lame ambassador husband despoils her own credibility?
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:15 amIf Iraq was for oil, how come gas prices are increasing? Why aren’t we siphoning off great amounts of the stuff to our use?
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 7:59 am
Because Bush’s Delusional Cake Walk of a war Plan BACKFIRED.
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:18 amConTroll posted until 2:05 am, then is back posting at 7:59 am. Didn’t sleep too well last night, huh?
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:18 amNo, No 239.
I’m looking forward to at least 4 more years. Hillary doesn’t have a chance and Obama and Edwards just don’t have the presence or an original thought between them.
No, come election night next November, I plan on being here to comment about the truly satisfying victory of yet another honorable Republican candidate. GO JOHN, RUDY, MITT & MIKE!
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:19 amThere were no WMD’s. Bush lied.
Iraq wasn’t supporting terrorism. Bush lied.
Iraq wasn’t cooperating with bin Laden. Bush lied.
Iraq wasn’t involved in 9/11. Bush lied.
People died. Lots of them. People are still dying. All because Bush lied.
Worst President Ever.
That’s all you need to know, Constipation.
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:20 amNo, come election night next November, I plan on being here to comment about the truly satisfying victory of yet another honorable Republican candidate.
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 8:19 am
And how many trolls said the same thing about the 2006 midterms, then no showed following the election?
There’s a world of hurt coming your way, boy.
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:22 am244 – In your opinion. For my money there are several others who were much worse, but of those limited to my generation, Slick Willie wins hands down. If it wasn’t for the balance between the Republican controlled Congress and the Bill & Hill power grab, the country we would be much worse off then now.
I mean who actually has a conviction for lying? Was disbarred from his profession? No contest. Really, no contest.
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:26 amThat article, by itself, disproves everything that the Left believes about this case.
Comment by DreamCrusher — November 22, 2007 @ 8:24 am
Disproves what Bush’s CIA director certified to Congress? Disproves federal court filings made by Patrick Fitzgerald? Just what are you smoking, Dreamcrusher?
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:28 amConTroll is becoming psychotic.
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:29 amFolks, we’re looking at some deadenders scraping bottom, and from here it is awful ugly to watch. These are people who are desperate, even frantic, to convince themselves that what is true is not.
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:31 am249 – Nice, if you can’t win with intellect and logic flail away with insults and denigration. Do you by any chance work for the Clintons?
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:32 amThen why can Bill Clinton draw Huge crowds of admiring people WORLDWIDE, while Bush is received well in ALBANIA??
NO …Bush had a Republican Congress for 6 years…vetoed virtually nothing….and showed Everyone what Republicans can do. Boy did he show us. 3 trillion in New Debt. The worst foreign policy debacle in US History. $100 oil 50cent dollars.
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November 22nd, 2007 at 8:35 amWho failed the country so miserably and completely on 9/11? Bush and Cheney. That’s all that needs to be said. Bringing up the sad spectacle of the weak cowardly Republicans spending $70 million to catch Clinton in a blowjob is a sign of how desperate the trolls are. They have nothing but losers and traitors on their side, so they will scream like rats when cornered, and they certainly are cornered. they will play their blame game, and take no responsibility for their treason, because that;s the way the have always been. Weak, immoral, lousy at national defense and security, lousy at fiscal responsibiity. Republicans are good at stealing elections, lying to Congress, and scaring their ignorant, bed-wetting “base”.
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:38 amf not, then how in the world does the entire lie you believe and peddle make any sense?
Comment by DreamCrusher — November 22, 2007 @ 8:36 am
Twist it any way you like, boy, your grasp of the truth is non-existent. Your ability to believe the lies of your programmers is stunning, but Germany was just as stunned on the 40s, when their Bushian leader lost his war as well. You’re in exactly the same place as the Good Germans.
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:40 amThe Clinton News Network? Hahaha, that’s a good one. Who calls it that? Oh, FOX news, the outlet that went to court to sue for its right to lie to its willing morons, and WON! So, there you go, FOX lies to its base, legally now, and we’re supposed to believe anything that comes from them or their willing dupes? We’re not as dumb as you look, rightards.
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:45 amStop being such a partisan idiot and realize that your own side is no better than the one you are criticizing. Join the independent movement and stop being someone else’s goomba.
Comment by DreamCrusher — November 22, 2007 @ 8:43 am
Sorry, goomba, your inability to steal the 2006 election was the result of my hard work, and many other liberals liek me, who turned out the vote in sufficient numbers to destroy that machine. Or haven’t you noticed your hero rove running away, along with dozens of Republicans? And if the best you can do is equivocate a lie about consensual sex with a lie about WMD, then you’re just showing the poverty of your ideology. Bin Laden’s campaign commercials for his buddy Bush speak volumes about the fear and smear party, the GOP, party of treason, your parrty. You’re as independent as the puppet Gonzales. Tool.
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:49 amOh Christ, Daryll the Liar is back. Released from the institution fo rhte holiday, Daryll, you poor, deluded tool? Satan must have lobbied for you.
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:51 amFox actually reports positive and factual news versus others, who try to report negative news that depicts our government officials and soldiers as liars, thieves and unpatriotic people.
Comment by Daryll — November 22, 2007 @ 8:52 am
no Daryll, FOX lies, with he approval of the court. They are the only news outlet to go to court for the right to lie. Why did they do that? So that they could lie, to you, legally, and you can never trust a single thing they say, since they have admitted publicly that they will lie whenever they want to. And they do, all the time. they are the outlet of liars and traitors, just right for an idiotic antiAmerican pig like you.
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:56 amOh, and by the way, Arn Gunnutes you need so serious professional help. Your delusional.
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 12:06 am
Plame and Wilson are pigs.
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 12:12 am
Simply can’t refrain from name calling here, huh?
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 12:19 am
tsk, tsk, all the name calling.
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 12:41 am
Baffbe, may I suggest professional counseling? You really do need some assistance with your delusional rants.
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @
tsk tsk tsk, what a bozo.
Do you feel justified in your name calling now?
Does your pathetic microscopic ego feel better now that I called you a name.
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 12:57 am
No you delusional twit,
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 12:59 am
Man, having to explain the facts to those that ride the small bus …
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 1:18 am
You are obviously beyond stupid
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 1:30 am
You are a foul mouthed twit whose hatred has overtaken everybit of reasoning power you might have ever had.
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 1:43 am
Ok, you narrow minded little pukes win.
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 1:51 am
249 – Nice, if you can’t win with intellect and logic flail away with insults and denigration.
Comment by Con10tious — November 22, 2007 @ 8:32 am
Anybody else see a pattern here?
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:57 amTheir approval ratings are lower than our Potus.
Comment by Daryll — November 22, 2007 @ 8:55 am
That’s because they haven’t put your POTUS on trial for war crimes and treason. if they did, their approval ratings would be in the high 80s. It’s a shame how they have let America down, but they won’t be around long, either. Unlike you, we don’t sit around and countenance treason. We will clean house over the next few elections, and restore democracy and liberalism to their rightful places at the head of the table that is the real America.
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:58 amIt wouldn’t suprise me if you guys lobbied Valerie Plame to lie against the Bush Administration.
Comment by Daryll — November 22, 2007 @ 8:58 am
As if there were ever a need to lie against the Treason administration. Telling the real truth about them will put nooses aound their necks, and I will be in the front row, cheering their deaths. Perhaps a real revolution will then take place, and you will learn the error of your own treason and antiAmericanism.
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:02 amDon’t you get it. Both parties are owned by American corporations.
Comment by Daryll — November 22, 2007 @ 9:00 am
Oh, i get, but instead of sitting by and accepting that, like you have, I will fight it until my last breath. That’s what patriots do, unlike you scum.
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:03 amI haven’t seen a troll frenzy like this in a long time. It isn’t hard to see the internal struggle these folks are having with the truth. Their President and his minions outed a covert CIA agent who ran a critical anti-WMD intelligence operation in Iran, and in so doing destroyed the entire operation, and it was done as a petty act of political revenge. They are trying to argue the impossible. Every sad, sorry discredited talking point ever dreamed up about this episode has been trotted out, no matter how thorougly debunked.
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:03 amI am going to receommend a book for you to read this holiday season. Please purchase and read Bill O’Reilly’s “Culture Warriorâ€. Maybe you will receive insight on what is really happening within our government.
Comment by Daryll — November 22, 2007 @ 9:03 am
Oh, please, Daryll! Insight? From Bill O’Reilly? Insight into what, how the deranged lunatic mind works? Let me let you in on a little secret that only Bill-O himself doesn’t know: He’s a COWARD! He’s a scared little man. He is actually afraid that white people won’t be the majority in this country any longer. And you think he can good good advice opn our culture?
Well, no matter who you choose to worship, be it Jesus Christ or Bill O’Reilly, have a Happy Thanksgiving, one and all.
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:11 amBy the standards of this administration & Fox, shooting the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, and Jesus merits the Medal of Honor. sarc OFF!
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:16 amLefty, you only receive information that is released by the media, not our Government. I believe that there is a plethora of classified documents that will debunk these lies, but they cannot be released because, of course, they are classified.
Comment by Daryll — November 22, 2007 @ 9:07 am
Typical dodge from a typical tool. And recommending professional liar O’Reilly’s book must be a joke, right? This guy is a paid liar, an admitted liar, and yet, you would have somebody try to learn from him? why kind of sick fool are you, recommending lies? Do you wear a swastika as well? You’re nothing but a Nazi punk. Bush has classified everything, including already-published documents. You are so stupid you don’t even see the destruction of your rights and freedoms. You really should just shoot yurself before you do any more harm to your family and country.
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:17 amLefty, you only receive information that is released by the media, not our Government. I believe that there is a plethora of classified documents that will debunk these lies, but they cannot be released because, of course, they are classified.
Comment by Daryll — November 22, 2007 @ 9:07 am
You clearly do not understand the purpose and role of a free press in a democratic society, for this is an extremely ignorant thing to say. The role of the media is to act as a watchdog on government, to expose their lies when they tell them. And, Daryll, the Bush Administration has been lying to the American people LITERALLY since day one! Remember how Ari Fleischer told everyone about the vandalism caused by the outgoing Clinton Administration? Well, some Republican congressman got the GAO to investigate and it turns it never happened! The Bush people were lying about it, and they haven’t stopped lying to us since. Why, oh, why would you believe a single thing they say?
BTW, were you aware that it is against the law (and this applies to the president, too) to classify something just to keep it out of the public’s knowledge if it does not involve national security? This administration has been classifying more documents than any other in our history. They hide even the most innocent of things. Do your own research on government secrecy and the Bush Administration (I won’t do it for you), and then try to come back and tell us you trust them to tell you the truth. About anything.
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:18 amTruly amazing. What a slippery slope we’ve been on the past 7 years. And what a distance we’ve fallen.
~Sean
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:19 amDaryll, just the fellow I need. I read in Slate the other day that there is a new front in the War on Silliness. Apparently some “evil doers” are diabolically trying to take God out of Thanksgiving? Your thoughts? I don’t remember a biblical Thanksgiving myself but apparently some find this to be a serious religious holiday that is being subverted by just plain old (USA)America.
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:20 amComment by O. Bigfoot — November 22, 2007 @ 9:34 am
Apparently in the reality where you live, events happened differently than they did in ours. In our reality, Valerie Plame was a covert CIA agent working to prevent nuclear weapons proliferation. Richard Armitage casually revealed to Bob Novak (who used to be part of a team known in DC as “Errors and No facts” because of his wildly inaccurate reporting) that she was covert and Novak got this confirmed, illegally, by someone in the White House, most likely Rove. The president promised that if anyone leaked classified information (which her covert status was), they would no longer be a part of his administration. Checking the news, I see tht Dick Cheney (who sent Libby out to reveal this info, too) is still the Vice President despite the president’s LIE about anyone being involv3ed no longer part of his team.
O. Bigfoot, if you believe what you just wrote, then you are seriously misinformed. And if you know its untrue, then what are you trying todo?
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:43 amOh boy…geez trolls. Ain’t the ball game on yet–Or did they not not give you guys the day off? Keep on ridin’ that Republican rocket–straight into the side of a mountain.
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:43 amKeep on ridin’ that Republican rocket–straight into the side of a mountain.
Comment by Menehune — November 22, 2007 @ 9:43 am
Ah yes… the ever popular urban myth about the guy who strapped a booster rocket to his VW and flew up into the air… and right into a cliff.
Apt metaphor for the the Brusch Regime.
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:46 amregardless of how baseless and moot they are.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — November 22, 2007 @ 9:34 am
from McClellan’s book:
The most powerful leader in the world had called upon me to speak on his behalf and help restore credibility he lost amid the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. So I stood at the White house briefing room podium in front of the glare of the klieg lights for the better part of two weeks and publicly exonerated two of the senior-most aides in the White House: Karl Rove and Scooter Libby,â€
“There was one problem,†. “It was not true. I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest ranking officials in the administration “were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice President, the President’s chief of staff, and the president himself.â€
Let’s get Mcclellan under oath, and SEE how moot and baseless these charges are.
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:48 ambigfoot usually has the choice to be wilfully ignorant or an outright liar. Occasionally, lie today, he combines both into a stew of Bush cocksucking that is the true measure of hsi treasonous mindset; anything bushco does, no matter how it harms America, is fine with him. he wears swastika armbands around the house, no doubt. The Good Germans lost their country; we must prevent the Good Germans like bigfoot from destroying ours.
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:49 amComment by Lefty Patriot — November 22, 2007 @ 9:49 am
I can understand someone playing a character who believes in George Bush, the way Stephen Colbert’s character does, even if it’s just to present “the other side’s view”. The problem this country faces is that we have been told that if we aren’t hearing both sides of a story, then we’re not getting “the whole truth”. This is, of course, patently stupid. Especially when it comes to the Bush Administration (Motto: “No Lie Too Small To Tell”), “the other side’s view” is often a provable lie.
What’s pitiable is that there are people like Daryll and O. Bigfoot who desperately want to believe the Bush “Sadministration”, because they cannot accept the idea that “President Daddy” (their Strict father model) might be lying to them. I hope they eventually listen to the truth, painful though it will be to them (as it is to all of us). Their government has been lying to them about things big and small. And people have died because of those lies. Christians everywhere should be condemning this administration, instead of singing Hosannahs to them.
November 22nd, 2007 at 10:03 amActually Wayne, they’re simply on the Administration’s payroll.
Some things really are best explained by “conspiracy”
November 22nd, 2007 at 10:14 amSo Gibson is more concerned about absolute loyality to Bush than he is about getting inside information from Iran over their nuclear weapons program. Since shutting down that operation was a direct result of Novak going public with his story. In another era he would have been charged with treason and Gibson is cheering.
As for Rove, Karl Rove was Bush’s right hand. Of course Bush spoke to Rove about the leak to Novak. We know that Rove was Novak’s second, confirming source. From that we can make only 2 conclusions. Either Rove lied to Bush or that Bush knowingly lied to McClellan.
If Rove lied to Bush then any good manager would fire that person on the spot. That didn’t happen here. Now we know that Rove did lie to Fitzgerald and that Fitzgerald gave Rove 5 chances to get his story straight, making Rove a repeated liar. But that doesn’t explain why Bush didn’t fire Rove or, for that matter, why Fitzgerald gave Rove so many chances to escape perjury charges.
The best source of information for determining who knew what and when right now is Fitzgerald. It is time he releases to the public the information he gathered. As it is he is just part of Team Bush and the toady’s are all still sticking together.
As for Bush lying, one needs to only make one observation. Were his lips moving. If they were he was lying.
November 22nd, 2007 at 10:20 amDaryll, O. Bigfoot. I’m sitting here waiting for you to continue defending this corrupt president. I’m enjoying pointing out just some of the reasons you are both wrong (assuming you are two different people; it’s hard to tell these days around here.)
Go ahead, prove me wrong. I welcome it.
November 22nd, 2007 at 10:26 amVerbalKlint said:
Absolutely. It’s bunker mentality. When their source of justifications are exposed, they instinctively revert to thread bare but battle-tested fail safe nonsense like:
“Plame wasn’t covert – no crime”
“Clinton fired all 93 prosecutors, serve at the pleasure of the President”
“Waterboarding isn’t torture”
“If you haven’t done anything wrong, you shouldn’t worry about warrant-less wiretapping”
And if all else fails…
“If you hate the US so much, why don’t you leave the country”
It’s as pathetic and transparent as it is predictable.
But, ironically, it is also useful to the progressive movement because every day, more and more people that never bother to comment on these threads see these fools for the morally bankrupt and reprehensible stooges that they are and it causes them to think for minute…
And that’s all we need.
If we can continue to open someone’s eyes and to just make them THINK for ONE MINUTE for themselves and consider other possibilities – the conclusions become self-evident and the GOP loses one more to rational thought.
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November 22nd, 2007 at 10:30 amI think a couple guys from the CIA should grab up this slimebag, take him into a room, and interrogate Gibby as to why he is so happy when agents are exposed. Not very many commentators express such glee when a covert intelligence asset is ruined. That is evidence enough to waterboard the albino!
November 22nd, 2007 at 10:34 amGibson argued the outing of Plame was justified because “this was about an anti-Bush cabal at the CIA†that needed to be “rooted out.â€
Anti-Bush is defined, by Gibson, as telling the truth. Add Gibson to the long list of treasonous people associated with the Busharruf administration.
November 22nd, 2007 at 11:58 amWatching them squirm under oath will be the political spectacle of the decade.
Comment by barfly
We can only hope. My fear is that the Democratic President is going to say “we need to put this behind us to heal the nation”. And that is totally wrong. We need to know exactly what happened to heal the nation. Otherwise, this kind of stuff will happen again and again.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:01 pmWHY WASN’T ARMITAGE CHARGED?
Comment by Con10tious
I am only answering this useless trolls question to make a point about something I have always suspected. And that is that Fitzgerald was a plant. Don’t forget that Fitzgerald is a Republican appointed by a Republican administration. I firmly believe that Fitzgerald was told to charge one person, Scooter Libby, to make the whole thing go away. And that’s what he did. People talk about Fitzgerald like he is a hero, I think he is a traitor to his nation. I’m wondering what his payoff is.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:20 pmSatan is popular, as well
With the GOP…….Hoping you and ilk burn in hell worshiping your master. Happy Thanksgiving traitors.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:24 pmyou guys like the UFO believer?
Comment by Con10tious
He’s in good company. Something like 70% of the people in this country either say they have seen a UFO or know someone who has.
I have a question. Why did you all keep responding to this troll once you knew he was here just to fling feces on the wall? Why didn’t you flag him every time he posted something and ignore him. I can understand engaging in Whack a Troll with a troll who is actually trying to make a point. This troll acted like a 2 year old and you all got down on his level and played with him.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:30 pmPlame was a covert agent, if she was not, half of her recently published book would not be redacted.
Why did you folks allow that moron to derail this thread. Haven’t you learned anything? Hit the Report Abuse flag every time they post and soon they will be gone.
November 22nd, 2007 at 12:37 pmYes, and the next Democrats will carry themselves in the same manner. Don’t you get it. Both parties are owned by American corporations.
Comment by Daryll
Finally a troll says something I agree with. But, unlike the troll, I don’t take it as a good thing or a given. I will fight until my last dying breath to make this country the United States of America once again. Right now it’s the United Corporations of America. And this all started when some brilliant judge gave “personhood” to the corporations.
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:09 pmAHHHHH…. DON’T YOU LOVE THE FACISTS STATES OF AMERICA?! (FORMALY KNOWN AS USA)
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:37 pmGibson is just another traitor whose name should be add to the list to be handled appropriately when the time comes…and it surely will.
November 22nd, 2007 at 5:11 pmWhen civil war breaks out in this country,I’ll kill him with a club.
November 22nd, 2007 at 6:05 pmKidding of course…..
The most lowly and disgusting traitors are the right-wingers who claim that anyone who disagrees with them are traitors.
November 22nd, 2007 at 7:01 pmSo is this Pravda News official stance now: The White House outted Plame?
Well let’s go Congress, jump on this.
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:06 pmI am only answering this useless trolls question to make a point about something I have always suspected. And that is that Fitzgerald was a plant. Don’t forget that Fitzgerald is a Republican appointed by a Republican administration. I firmly believe that Fitzgerald was told to charge one person, Scooter Libby, to make the whole thing go away. And that’s what he did. People talk about Fitzgerald like he is a hero, I think he is a traitor to his nation. I’m wondering what his payoff is.
Comment by bilbobaggins — November 22, 2007 @ 12:20 pm
Fitzgerald DID NOT have the appetite for justice that useless, RePugniScum Ken Starr had going after Clinton. Given the huge difference between the weight of the cases (one for a sex act and the other TREASON) Fitzgerald is the biggest suck-up, loser prosecutor to NOT help this nation in a very long time!!!
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:26 pmGuess Gibson figures TREASON is the highest form of patroitism, eh?
November 22nd, 2007 at 10:30 pmGibby ‘n’ KKKarl, — BLOODWINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ugggh.
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:03 am312 – Small problem with your facts, there’s no treason since Armitage outed Plame before anyone else!
November 23rd, 2007 at 6:43 amwhy do we have to put up with people like con10 on this forum? I stupidly tried to post my thoughts on a neocon forum and got erased faster than Bush tells a lie. And we all know that’s fast…..
November 23rd, 2007 at 9:54 amOut of sheer morbid curiosity I tuned into Hugh Hewitt’s show the day that story broke, and NOT ONE WORD!!!!!!! He spent most of his show babbling about turkey stuffing…….
Hmmmm ????
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:53 pmDreamcrusher: “July 16, 2003. David Corn, sourced by Joe Wilson, reveals for the first time that Plame was an undercover intelligence officer.”
The original Novak article was published on July 11, 2003, so of course that’s a lie.
Dreamcrusher: “You mean those which wouldn’t even state for the record whether or not Plame was even a covert agent as defined under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act?”
Again, not sure what “Dreamcrusher” thinks he’s talking about here. The federal prosecutor certainly wasn’t beyond making public pronouncements on Plame’s covert status. Here’s Fitzgerald’s quote:
FITZGERALD (5/25/07): “[I]t was clear from very early in the investigation that Ms. Wilson qualified under the relevant statute (Title 50, United States Code, Section 421) as a covert agent whose identity had been disclosed by public officials, including Mr. Libby, to the press.”
I think this is a demonstration not of lying, but of being lied to by right wing press and believing everything you hear. “Dreamcrusher” is clearly sure he’s right, but uses untrue statements to back up his point. Where did he get his bogus info and why does he believe it? He believes it because he desparately wants to think he’s been right all along and that his beloved leader has not been playing him for a patsy.
November 23rd, 2007 at 5:10 pmAnd then there is this very strange argument by the Bush cultist called “Con10tous.”:
“You guys seem to forget that nobody got charged for outing Plame, even though Armitage confessed.
So apparently, she wasn’t an agent!!! DUH!”
The idea that if nobody is charged for a crime, a crime didn’t occur is silly at best. First, because someone WAS convicted of Obstruction of Justice for protecting possible involvement by superiors (Fitzgerald called it “throwing sand in investigators’ faces”); and second, because if a crime remains unsolved, it doesn’t mean a crime didn’t occur – that’s just common sense. But often, cultists will eschew common sense in search of a rationalization to explain the behavior of their cult leaders.
November 23rd, 2007 at 5:27 pmWhy isn’t Gibson’s theme music played on a calliope?
November 23rd, 2007 at 8:30 pm