Comments on: Pentagon Bends (But Doesn’t Reverse) Policy That Withholds Bonuses From Wounded Vets

By: foreyes

foreyes — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:09:19 +0000

Bush is the kind of person who would dig the gold fillings out of the dead soldiersâ€™ teeth and melt them into Medals of Honor to give to his incubi.

Comment by nanlichi â€” November 21, 2007 @ 3:20 pm
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Brilliant!

By: IMPEACH NOW

IMPEACH NOW — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:07:26 +0000

Dear former soldier,

Thank you for your service. I am so sorry that that happened to you. Keep speaking out. The “Marlboro Marine” has PTSD and there were several articles and interviews with him over the past few days, I think in the LA Times and also printed in the UK’s Guardian.

Illona of Daily Kos and Epluribus Media has many articles on the shabby way veterans esp. those with PTSD are being treated. She wrote a book on it MOVING A NATION TO CARE and there are resources listed on the Epluribus site and other articles about PTSD of our soldiers by former officer Jeremy Huber on Epluribus Media.

Good luck to you. Oh, and The Military Times Messageboards have had several veterans talking about possibly losing their homes because of the benefits that are being denied them. I wrote to my Congressperson quoting the posts. Keep letting everyone know about it so that continuous pressure can be placed on the media and Congress.

God Bless.

By: IMPEACH NOW

IMPEACH NOW — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:01:38 +0000

Rep Waxman is “guest blogging” on ThinkProgress.org
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/19/thinksgiving-waxman/#comments
the moderator is scrubbing comments requesting him to let Sibel speak to Rep Waxman on their site; it’s a conspiracy to them.

how frustrating this must be for Sibel — AND ME!! no one wants to touch this story … hmmmmm….

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5260#more-5260

By: Lora

Lora — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 05:57:04 +0000

Who is the â€œthemselvesâ€ in this sentence? Are you seriously suggesting Kim Jong Il is defending North Korea? All he is defending is his own scrawny hide.
Comment by Keltoi at Night â€” November 21, 2007 @ 6:12 pm

You obviously don’t know what Kim Jong Il looks like; he is chubby. It’s the majority of his people–the non-elites, whom he keeps in perpetual state of near starvation, who have scrawny hides.

By: frmrsldr

frmrsldr — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:36:28 +0000

…and I received the Purple Heart for wounds received in combat, and was recommended for the Bronze Star Medal for bravery. But that’s okay. Who chould care? Even my politicans in my state don’t care about me. I emailed them and received no response from any one of them until I went to a local newspaper and somebody got some bad press. Even then, only two of them responded out of the 6 people I wrote. But i didn’t do it for medals. I did it because it was the right thing to do.

By: frmrsldr

frmrsldr — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:32:37 +0000

I am another one fo the soldiers that this has happened to. I was discharged in October of 2005 after I had been diagnosed with chronic PTSD since I had been back from the war. I had fought in Al Fallujah for 373 days before I came home, but it seemed as though the war had followed me. Constant nightmares, day terrors, high blood pressure and insomnia had all caused me to get discharged for a “personality disorder” so my six year contract had been cut short to only four years, so my enlistment bonus was prorated so I only owed them 1/3 of my $20,000 bonus that they “paid” me. I had been forced out, put into debt and had my final paycheck rescinded and had no way to get home from Kansas. …and justice for all.

By: troll buster

troll buster — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:14:56 +0000

Comment by BARTLEBEE

It really isn’t that tedious finding his posting on old threads, you do an advanced google search for comments by keltoi (at night). If you use the cached version, his comments are highlighted in color, so a thread can be mined for gems in only a minute or two.

By: troll buster

troll buster — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:55:58 +0000

Bartlebee, when he admitted that we only invaded counties we could beat, that post went into the file immediately. What I am planning is a file of outrageous statements on a wide variety of issues. You’re not going to win a one punch knock-out with this character, you’ve got to keep jabbing, throw in a few body shots and slowly wear him down.
What I’m afraid of is that he will just run away and hide, then come back and play the victim. But I’m sure that could be used against him, because eventually he is going to be seen for what he is, a hypocrite and a coward.

By: Keith

Keith — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:37:55 +0000

The Arab League said Saddam agreed in March 2003 to leave Iraq with $1 billion and guarantee of safety.

Regarding the way this administration treats the military, I think this quote from Henry Kissinger reveals the true feelings of Republican neocons:

â€œMilitary men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.â€

By: troll buster

troll buster — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:35:56 +0000

Bartlebee, trust me, he isn’t going to get away with pulling off his moderate act much longer. The easiest way to bring the concern troll down is to use his own postings against him. I have dug up a few and when the file becomes large enough, it will be time to engage him head on. I will certainly make sure you and RHF are there to enjoy the battle.

By: barfly

barfly — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:20:50 +0000

Christ wept, we DID kill and depose him! And that is what you have spent the last three hours saying WE SHOULDNâ€™T HAVE DONE!!! And now you want MORE money being spent on nation building in Iraq?

Comment by Keltoi at Night

How silly. Bartlebee was referring to removing Saddam by allowing Unscom’s work to being carried to its end; which would have left Saddam vulnerable, because his enemise wouldn’t have feared his non-existant WMD’s. And with the help of the Saudis, he would have been overthrown – at a cost considerably less than a billion dollars a week. His point about humanitarian aid (I think) is that we screwed the pooch badly by mixing blitzkreig with seeming altruism. We could not credibly make the case that we were there to help, after being revealed as sex-obsessed Sadists and as pathological liars.

By: troll buster

troll buster — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:20:32 +0000

@147
The troll spent four days hiding in the closet, so he had lots of BS to spread today. He likes to pi$$ off people, then run away when he finally gets cornered. I agree with you, but believe you’re wasting your time trying to get him to answer anything in a straight forward way. All you’re going to get from him are questions or his long winded pompous say nothing crap.

By: troll buster

troll buster — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:56:13 +0000

Bartlebee, you’re waisting your time. This troll is long on opinion and really devoid of substance or facts. I’ve skimmed through his posts on several dozen posts and not once has this narcissist ever given ground on a single issue.

By: Keltoi at Night

Keltoi at Night — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:46:53 +0000

and likely Iraq, assuming we either killed or deposed Saddam and pumped in humanitarian aid.

Comment by BARTLEBEE â€” November 21, 2007 @ 8:39 pm

Christ wept, we DID kill and depose him! And that is what you have spent the last three hours saying WE SHOULDN’T HAVE DONE!!! And now you want MORE money being spent on nation building in Iraq?

You MUST have been namejacked.

By: Vincennes

Vincennes — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:34:15 +0000

Only in America where CEOs can still get million-dollar windfalls after being ousted from their companies for overseeing billion dollar losses, while soldiers who put their lives on the line and were injured in the process can’t even get a few measly thousands of dollars promised to them.

By: Keltoi at Night

Keltoi at Night — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:20:09 +0000

Oh, Damn, two new contestants. Dunno how deep you read Trollbuster, my question did not arise out of a vaccum. Ditto you in 136, Barfly, not sure if I get the point of your question.

But I have to go, 70 posts on the topic is enough, my wife is home, time to leave the field. With luck, some other dissenter will show up to keep your discussion going.

By: barfly

barfly — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:12:01 +0000

“Place your bets B., is Iran or Iraq looking at a brighter future for their citizens and vis-a-vis a stable Middle East and good relations with us 10 years from now, assuming no US strike on Iran?”

Comment by Keltoi at Night

No, but a new generation (who also hates our collective guts) is just over the horizon. You think they’ll forget our killing and torturing their citizens in ten years? Didn’t happen in Iran after the fall of the Shah, so why do you think this will be any different?

By: troll buster

troll buster — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:11:03 +0000

@ 133 “Place your bets B.”

That has got to be the lamest response I have ever seen on the site. I’ll check back in ten years to see who won.

By: Keltoi at Night

Keltoi at Night — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:02:40 +0000

But I will once more congratulate you on your ability to post a comment, without really saying, advocating or disavowing, anything.

Comment by BARTLEBEE â€” November 21, 2007 @ 7:51 pm

Sez the inventor of the tactic.

Place your bets B., is Iran or Iraq looking at a brighter future for their citizens and vis-a-vis a stable Middle East and good relations with us 10 years from now, assuming no US strike on Iran?

By: nellre

nellre — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:51:15 +0000

So if they’re killed in action does their widow (or widower) have to repay the bonus?

Sometimes American companies offer a sign on bonus. Can you imagine them trying to collect a refund if you were killed or too injured to work while doing your job?

Lean and mean, emphasis on the mean. Like when Reagan ordered social security to crack down on disability payments and started denying benefits to really deserving folks. Like the one who had one arm with some nerve disorder was not qualified because in order to qualify both arms needed to be affected. But she only had one arm… nevertheless they denied her claim.