Corker ‘underwhelmed’ by Bush’s knowledge of Iraq.
Corker ‘underwhelmed’ by Bush’s knowledge of Iraq.
Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN) “raised some eyebrows” with his recent remarks about President Bush’s knowledge about Iraq. His comments “about his experiences with the White House during meetings on the war in Iraq” left some conservatives in the crowd “befuddled.” Chattanooga’s NewsChannel 9 reports:
“I was in the White House a number of times to talk about the issue, and I may rankle some in the room saying this, but I was very underwhelmed with what discussions took place at the White House,” Corker said.
A few minutes later during a question and answer session a man in the audience asked him to clarify his statement.
“I was concerned about your statement that you were underwhelmed with what was going on in the White House. Did you mean with him or with his staff?”
In response, Corker said, “Let me say this. George Bush is a very compassionate person. He’s a very good person. And a lot of people don’t see that in him, and there’s many people in this room who might disagree with that…. I just felt a little bit underwhelmed by our discussions, the complexity of them, the depth of them.”
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Wow, GW Botch a shallow moron? Who would'uh thunk it?
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:33 pm"Wow, GW Botch a shallow moron? Who would’uh thunk it?"
Don't call George names; he's just special! The poor dear. he didn't mean to become a war criminal. Uncle Dick promised him a pony, and all he got was the dropings.
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:43 pmIn early 2003 when GWB was told by briefers that the Shiites and Sunnis in Iraq would fight for power if Saddam was taken out----He replied: "I thought they were all Muslims"!!!
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:45 pmI've been very underwhelmed by the entire sham of Bushco's administration. Not to mention horrified by the lack of vision, clarity, and intelligence he has shown in all facets of his(actually Cheney's) policies. The crimininality of this administration of his regime is the only facet which is overwhelming
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:50 pmI still have a pin from 1999 that I wore everywhere that read "ABB" It meant "Anybody But Bush."
People would ask me what it meant and I would answer with the above and this followup, "Do you want someone dumber than me in the White House?"
Every RePugniScum on Earth claimed he was much smarter than me. History has proved them all wrong!!!
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:58 pmI wonder where the George W. Bush Presidential Libary and Floating Casino will be located?
Reno? Yuma? How about Bullhead City? Lots of good fishin', and Don Laughlin's has a great buffet.
November 22nd, 2007 at 8:58 pmThey are going to put it in TexAss, the lowest state in soooo many ways. I would put it in Florida, the home of his corrupt, RePugniScum brother Jeb and specifically Boca Raton (Bay of Rats in English) myself!!
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:03 pmIn George's "libary," the Pai Gow table will be called Kim Jong Ill's Best Diplomacy Jackpot, the Blackjack table renamed BlackDick's Revenge, where you not only double-down, you can quadruple-bypass four hands at once! And, in the elevator on the way to your room, recreations of George Bush's greatest triumphs - both of 'em.
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:26 pmSo Bush is as shallow as piss on concrete. So what? That's got to make the Chimp feel good about himself, compared to what they said about Ronald Reagan. It was said that Reagan was as dumb as a box of rocks, according to many who knew him.
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:31 pmFIRST, GEORGE W.C. BUSH IS NOT A GOOD PERSON! A WAR CRIMINAL, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATH OF OVER TWO MILLION PEOPLE IS NOT A COMPASIONED PERSON. A WAR CRIMINAL THAT LIES HIS WAY INTO A WAR OF AGRESSION IS JUST THAT, A WAR CRIMINAL. BUSH IS A LIER, HE CONDONES TORTURE, HE THINKS HE IS ABOVE THE LAW. TO BE QUITE HONEST, IF HIM OF ANY MEMBER OF HIS FAMILY DIES TODAY, I'LL TROW A PARTY!
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:32 pmPretty damning comments about the next President of Texas A&M.
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:37 pmTranslation - I think 'W' is an idiot.
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:43 pmBush:"It is too bad,that I can't fire Corker".
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:43 pmPretty damning comments about the next President of Texas A&M.
Comment by rat618 — November 22, 2007 @ 9:37 pm
I hope that Botch is the next prez of TexAss Agricutrual and Mechnical. Just his speed. Maybe he can take classes and learn to become a successful farmer/rancher finally!!
And it's a damn good argument to give TexAss back to Mexico. Problem now is that we would have pay them the take TexAss off our hands with GW Botch living there!!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:46 pmI wonder where the George W. Bush Presidential Libary and Floating Casino will be located?
Reno? Yuma? How about Bullhead City? Lots of good fishin’, and Don Laughlin’s has a great buffet.
Comment by barfly — November 22, 2007 @ 8:58 pm
November 22nd, 2007 at 9:49 pmA public men's rest room in Minneapolis ........
There are people who talk about how compassionate and intelligent Dubya is. Are they talking about the same guy as the person who's been in the Executive Office.
If he is that compassionate and intelligent why haven't We, the People seen any evidence of it? It doesn't make sense.
November 22nd, 2007 at 10:25 pmspecifically Boca Raton (Bay of Rats in English) myself!!
Comment by dixie blood — November 22, 2007
Dixie, I'm not sure what language you're translating from, but "boca raton" literally translates from Spanish as "mouth mouse". The common Spanish for "bay" is "bahÃa" and the common Spanish for "rat" is "rata". (From the Wikipedia entry for Boca Raton: Listed on early maps as "Boca Ratones," many people wrongly assume the name is simply translated to "Rat's Mouth." The Spanish word boca (or mouth) was often used to describe an inlet, while ratón (literally mouse) was used by Spanish sailors to describe rocks that gnawed at a ship's cable, or as a term for a cowardly thief.)
November 22nd, 2007 at 10:39 pmAustralia
Syria
November 22nd, 2007 at 10:42 pmEverybody talking politics in here should be paying attention to what's happening to the US dollar tonight. What is coming will make these other issues pale by comparison.
Clinton had it right, "it's the economy, stupid."
November 22nd, 2007 at 10:51 pmRats are noble beasts compared to Bush and co. Besides which, I think he'll have to build his library in a secret location to avoid vandalism. Maybe Haliburton can build a nice, air-tight, vault and they can keep Georgie, the Chimp himself, on display? They would have to stuff him after he's hanged though.
Of course, the problem of a suitable name remains. I would suggest "Sh!t-hole", or "Hole Where We Bury Sh!t". "Poop Pit" has a nice ring too.
November 22nd, 2007 at 10:56 pmHe's not the brightest bulb in the house. He couldn't think his way out of a paperbag. Short bus material.
But the neocons put their puppet in the drivers seat and I don't believe they understood just how spoiled and clueless he really is.
"Underwhelmed" is an understatment.
Bush/Cheney
Hague Trials '09
Buck Fush
November 22nd, 2007 at 10:59 pmComment by Marcus Aurelius — November 22, 2007 @ 10:51 pm
Ya got that right.
November 22nd, 2007 at 11:00 pmSome of us in the community have been underwhelmed from BEFORE the very start!
November 22nd, 2007 at 11:02 pmAs Dubya himself said, "Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
Apparently this doesn't apply to even bigger fools. Corker's begrudging realization that Dubya might be a moron would've been a bit more relevant in 2004, before America was fooled again.
Now Corker's left in the position of trying to cover his ass while still kissing Bush's. Pathetic.
November 22nd, 2007 at 11:03 pmCorker said, “Let me say this. George Bush is a very compassionate person
November 22nd, 2007 at 11:05 pm...
Yeah, that's why the only charity work Bush has ever done in his entire life was the "community service" he served at Houston's Project P.U.L.L. back in 1973, at the very same time his "courageous" career with the Texas Air National Guard mysteriously went poof and he had his wings clipped for good.
Underwhelmed?
November 22nd, 2007 at 11:11 pmYou mean the discussions were abbreviated and dumbed down in vocabulary and content to fit the intellet of preznit f**kwit?
What a surprise.
It's like the old joke with a question about the blonde bombshell's acting ability -- a critic replies, "she's very good to her mother."
Bush is stupid, but he's compassionate. I have news for you Corker -- he's not compassionate either. He is phony - through and through.
Well that's just terrific. One of the dumbest of many dumb wingnut senators thinks our wingnut preznit ain't the sharpest pencil in the drawer. What's that say for the American electorate?
November 22nd, 2007 at 11:13 pmAs for sighting the presidential library: First time Shrub and library will ever be associated together. My guess is that he will send Laura in his stead.
And what are the odds that the environmental president will build the library along "green" principles ?
November 22nd, 2007 at 11:47 pmAnd what are the odds that the environmental president will build the library along “green†principles ?
Comment by MapleStreet —
"Green principals" to Bush means cash - hence the casino...
November 22nd, 2007 at 11:57 pmPeople go nuts when you compare Bush to Hitler, but the fact is Bush is very much like Hitler in many respects
Comment by BARTLEBEE — November 23, 2007 @ 12:26 am
The reason "people" go nuts is that it trivializes what Hitler was.
If Bush suspends the 08 elections and burns down the Capitol, your comparison will hold up.
If he lauches a war that results in the death of 60-100 million human beings, your comparison will hold up.
If he rounds up every Muslim in this country and marches them into death camps like Dachau and Auschwitz, your comparison will hold up.
But we both know damn well none of this is going to happen, so your comparison is a bunch of hyperbolic histrionics.
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:40 amSince our long national nightmare began Jan 20, 2001, I have come to believe that the Bush Administration isn't simply incompetent, but that they are deliberately incompetent. Part of the conservative mantra since the days fo reagan is that government shouldn't be doing certain things. What they fail to add is that they feel that this takes away fiscal opportunites for corporations and small businesses. Never mind what's in the best interests of the people of this country. No, they feel that government shouldn't be involved in certain things, so they appoint people who are business-friendly and privatize basic government functions. Naturally, these services are costing you more because of the grossly inept way this administration operates. (Is it really costing you less money to have KBR feed our troops rancid meat and spoiled water than it would be to have our military feed itself, with food bought at negotiated prices?)
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:04 am>>Everything is in degree’s numbnuts.
Yeah, it is funny you should say that when comparing Bush to Hitler and not even realize how dumb it makes you sound.
>>Bush is already responsible for the deaths of over a million Arab Muslim civillians.
Bullshit.
>>Its only a matter of time before that number climbs to meet or beat the numbered dead of the Holocaust.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — November 23, 2007 @ 12:52 am
Utter, complete, comtemptible bullshit. You completely ignore the fact that the vast majority of deaths in Iraq have not been at the hands of Americans but at the hands of sectarian militias, Baathists or AQ.
To say the number of dead in Iraq will soon meet or beat the tally of the Holocaust is to equate the US Army and USMC with the Wehrmacht and the SS. "Bush" can't do it without them carrying out the orders.
This line of reasoning is utterly disgusting, B. I have written and deleted 2 paragraphs which all have the same point of how can you make such a comparison? Not of Bush to Hitler but to the men who carried out their orders? I don't question the patriotism of other Americans lightly, so I am trying hard not to do that now.
Bush is Hitler. Our troops will soon meet or exceed the death count of the Holocaust. Shame on you.
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:20 amNo, you and murderers like you are disgusting.
That line of reasoning is perfectly logical, and recognized by millions of people all over the world.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — November 23, 2007 @ 1:30 am
Say it BARTLEBEEBARTLBEEBARTLBEE:
The US Army and USMC are carrying out acts of deliberate genocide.
Either SAY it or QUIT INFERING IT.
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:36 amI guess the people who continue to support Bush are just misunderwhelmed.
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:39 amThe only thing I inferred is you’re a limpdick prick who hides behind “the troops†whenever your inbred brain cannot make a point.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — November 23, 2007 @ 1:40 am
So I guess Bush is personally going to run all the gas chambers? Kill all the civilians?
HOW DARE YOU SAY WE ARE GOING TO OVERSEE A SECOND HOLOCAUST? JUST WHO IN THE HELL DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO FOLLOW ORDERS LIKE THAT???? WHO?!?!?
Disagree with national policy all day long, call me names worthy of a 7th grader all day long, but you know damn well it is either complete STUPIDITY or TOTAL INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY to say we are going to equate the atrocities of the Nazis but claim you still "support the troops."
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:54 amMaybe you should cut back on the Vino and eat some more Yams.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — November 23, 2007 @ 1:45 am
I hate Yams, love Vino, and am totally sick of wasting my time on you.
See you at the smackdown. Try to bring around 10 of your friends, just so it is fair.
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:58 amComment by Keltoi at Night — November 23, 2007 @ 12:40 am
So, your argument boils down to:
"technically, Bush is not as bad as Hitler"!?? That's quite some argument you got going for our president, Keltoi! I would say that is worse than whether or not he received a bl0wjob.
The head of the British Defense Ministry said that the study done by Johns Hopkins Univ and The Lancet (that extrapolates today to 1.1 million) was a proven sound and robust methodology. They went door to door throughout Iraq and saw death certificates in 95% of the recorded deaths. Their methodology has been used all around the world for many years and never been questioned before (such as the Indonesian tsunami and Rwanda genocide). The 1.1 million figure is an increase in violent civilian deaths after our illegal invasion and occupation. It does not include such things as one in eight Iraqi children dying before the age of five due to bad water and lack of healthcare or medicine (caused by our invasion and occupation).
We ARE responsible for what happens as the result of our illegal invasion and occupation. Also, I believe it is still true that at least half the violent deaths are due to attacks from helicopters, jets, and bombers----and it is only the Coalition which has done this.
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:14 amThese are the facts. And you want to take these facts and claim that Bush’s grandfather was a Nazi. BARTLEBEE, this prooves that you are full of unadulterated drek.
Comment by cold_hard_left — November 23, 2007 @ 2:07 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush
Investigator John Loftus has said, "As a former federal prosecutor, I would make a case for Prescott Bush, his father-in-law (George Walker) and Averell Harriman [to be prosecuted] for giving aid and comfort to the enemy. They remained on the boards of these companies knowing that they were of financial benefit to the nation of Germany."
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:21 amComment by cold_hard_left — November 23, 2007 @ 2:07 am
There is a hell of a lot of room on the political spectrum between fascism and communism! Saying that someone supporting Hitler is all right because he opposed communism is a lousy argument.
Real men from all around the world went to Spain in 1936 to fight the fascist Franco (supported by Hitler and Mussolini) and support democracy. Those who went were LEFT OF CENTER.
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:22 amThanks, Bartlebee. And that 1.1 million figure does not include the one in eight Iraqi children dying before the age of five. Noone argued with the study in the 1990's that said our sanctions on Iraq resulted in the deaths of 500,000. Madeline Allbright just said "it was worth it".
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:30 amWhat is going on with the dollar? I've been looking around but don't see any news other than that it's at about 1.50 to the Euro which was to be expected. I know it's not good but is there a new development I'm not aware of?
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:32 amSee you at the smackdown. Try to bring around 10 of your friends, just so it is fair.
Comment by Keltoi at Night — November 23, 2007 @ 1:58 am
That'll solve it, Kelty. Will that be a pre-emptive smackdown or will you be ignoring the neocon handbook on this one?
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:37 amComment by Stupid Git — November 23, 2007 @ 2:32 am
The dollar has dropped 40% since Bush took office. Our debt is $9 Trillion and rising. There is the mortgage crisis. China may stop buying our bonds. They may stop pegging their yuan to the dollar. OPEC might switch from the dollar to the Euro. Iraq may make oil deals with China and Russia and not the West (what could have upset them?). Venezuela is mad with us.
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:37 amSome economists say we cannot continue with deficits forever. They say at some point (maybe 20 years) we'll be declared a failed state and taken over by the World Bank. Good thing we have a CEO/MBA president, huh?!
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:41 amComment by cold_hard_left — November 23, 2007 @ 2:41 am
You make Hillary sound like Joseph Stalin, when the truth is that she is the most corporate-friendly of all the Democratic candidates. That is why no progressive likes her. ThinkProgress is a progressive site.
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:46 amThe good of the state before the good of the individual.
Sound familiar?
Comment by cold_hard_left — November 23, 2007 @ 2:41 am
Yep, sounds like the good old GOP Fascists like yourself! Can't blame you for whining Clinton though! Anyone with GOP values like yours HAS to live in shame and denial!
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:47 amThe comparison between Hillary Clinton’s platform and Hiltler’s have numerous similarities. Does that make her a Nazi?
Comment by cold_hard_left — November 23, 2007 @ 2:32 am
BAHAHA, platform? Ironic considering that Bush's presidency has had so many similarities with Hitlers - even down to scapegoating, whining about liberals, using the evangelicals (Hitler would never have attained power without them) and ending habeas corpus!
Can't blame you for projecting, poor stupid little fascist!
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:49 amHow are the Clintons even remotely relevant in a thread about Pres Bush's almost total ignorance about the country he decided to invade and occupy?
As a means of distraction, perhaps?
Because the fact that the people in charge have practically no knowledge of the land they have decided to invade is the main reason why the so-called Iraq policy is in shambles.
And the realisation that their father figure is an arrogant, blundering, ignorant fool really hurts the Bush loyalists' feeble psyche.
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:53 amNote to trolls: This is a thread about a Senator (a Republican Senator, no less!) expressing his surprise at the lack of depth and complexity in his conversations with George Bush about Iraq.
Here is Pres Bush, talking about the occupation that will be his legacy to future generations, but failing to engage in a deep, meaningful conversation about that country.
If this revelation doesn't give you a subtle hint that you are supporting the wrong person, nothing will.
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:00 amSept 25, 2004
"The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html
"...the documents reveal that the firm he (Prescott) worked for, Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), acted as a US base for the German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, who helped finance Hitler in the 1930s..."
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November 23rd, 2007 at 3:01 amDidn't Brown Brothers Harriman morph into Kellog Brown & Root? Aren't they profiting from the whole Iraq war.
BTW, the Guardian is an excellent newspaper!
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:01 amI swear that Bartlebee, RHF, and I are three separate people. What other names are you, cold_hard?
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:04 am"George Bush is a very compassionate person. He’s a very good person. [...] I just felt a little bit underwhelmed by our discussions, the complexity of them, the depth of them.â€
In other words, Sen Corker thinks George Bush is a nice guy, just not very bright, curious, and/or informed.
But some of us already suspected that.
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:06 amBush isn't conservative enough?
Yeah, I guess illegal wiretaps, and suspending Habeas Corpus fall a little short of some people's dreams of a totalitarian state.
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:11 amApart from the rhetoric, where is the evidence that Bush is compassionate? You can say Hitler was compassionate, it doesn't make it true.
In early 2003 when GWB was told by briefers that the Shiites and Sunnis in Iraq would fight for power if Saddam was taken out—-He replied: “I thought they were all Muslimsâ€!!!
BTW, cold_hard also has a hole in his head, but it is beside the point.
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:12 amAnother attempt at distraction.
The thread is still about Bush's lack of acumen.
Better luck next time.
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:15 amComment by JosephW — November 22, 2007 @ 10:39 pm
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Thank you for your information.
I feel less ignorant today.
I'm sure Dixie didn't mean any harm.
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:20 amPuzzling how the I-do-not-support-Bush "conservatives" come to this blog to carry water for the Bush administration, day in and day out.
Puzzling also that they have to bring up the Clintons at every chance they get, even if completely irrelevant to anything being talked about.
ThinkProgress really bother these Bush cultists or they wouldn't spend so much time trying to derail the threads.
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:32 amComment by cold_hard_left — November 23, 2007 @ 3:15 am
The source is Peter Galbraith, former US diplomat.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/12/8/215257/257
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:32 amLiberals/Socialists (e.g. Chavez, Castro) are always more inclined to lead to a totalitarian state than are Conservatives.
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Give me examples, a**hole, or just STFU! Is your choice coups for Fascists?
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:36 amAnd there you have it.
The troll's fundamental problem is a reading comprehension issue, and/or that is trying really hard to change the subject.
Not to mention his selective choices of conflicts the US has been involved in, since he carefully neglected to mention Reagan and Grenada, Reagan and Panama, Bush I and Iraq, Bush II and Iraq.
I guess those don't count in the troll's alternate version of history.
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:39 amOr, how about Bill Clinton getting a $50K loan from the bin Laden family? Can you imagine how the RW would amp that factoid after 9/11? You know, the guy who masterminded the attacks that killed 3000 Americans and whom George Bush said, 6 month later, "who cares about OBL?"
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:47 amComment by BARTLEBEE — November 23, 2007 @ 3:42 am
Yep, I agree.
His reply is a change of subject, because that is not what you were talking about. It was very obvious. I guess this move is what passes for "cleverness" wherever this troll is from.
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:50 amTo me, the most obvious (and chilling) parallels between this administration and past totalitarian regimes, are the "pre-emptive strike" doctrine, the re-interpretation of the law at the leader's whim, the use of fear & scapegoats, and the willingness to ignore international laws and treaties because "might makes right".
If this is not "conservative" enough for him, then our little trolls is a true fascist.
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:56 am> other than nutty, leftist conspiracy theorists
right, those oddball people who thinks only arabs engage in conspiracies! imagine that!
>Good night regressives.
arent you going to tell us "toodles"? yes, hurry out and go buy something made in china, I think they dont own enough of our country yet.. free markets, right?
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:59 amA line from JFK's planned speech in Dallas, 44 years ago today-
"Ignorance and misinformation can handicap the progress of a city or a company, but they can, if allowed to prevail in foreign policy, handicap this country's security."
Almost like he had a crystal ball and could see 44 years into the future....
Full speech here:
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:59 amhttp://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2332515&mesg_id=2332793
I would also add the use of science for political purposes, and the branding of dissenters as "traitors", and "unAmerican".
(which in turn would make all loyalists the historical equivalent of the "good Germans", but that irony is lost in the awareness-lacking Bush loyalists)
November 23rd, 2007 at 4:02 amLet me rephrase that:
I meant "the bastardization of science for political purposes".
November 23rd, 2007 at 4:04 amDavid Michael Green on Bush----
"...the guy has lost two wars on his watch, launched one, on the basis of complete fabrications, that has nothing to do whatsoever with national security other than that it is actually manufacturing anti-American terrorists, broken the American military, taken a record-setting surplus and turned it into a record-setting deficit, watched as a major American city drowned, was unprepared for the worst attack on America in history, has utterly failed in six years to come close to catching the accused perpetrator of that crime, has exacerbated a looming global environmental disaster, divided the country and alienated the world."
November 23rd, 2007 at 4:23 amYo #7 "specifically Boca Raton (Bay of Rats in English) myself!!".... Boca is Mouth in spanish, Bahia is Bay.
November 23rd, 2007 at 5:25 amThe neocons are like the Nazis, except for their utter lack of intelligence or courage.
November 23rd, 2007 at 6:09 amComment by BARTLEBEE
Look, if I'm responsible for whatever you say so, fine! Just don't keep repeating it . How many times do I have to say I'm sorry it happenened?
November 23rd, 2007 at 6:21 amSee you at the smackdown. Try to bring around 10 of your friends, just so it is fair.
Comment by Keltoi at Night — November 23, 2007 @ 1:58 am
BARTLEBEE and Goebbels have a lot in common.
Comment by cold_hard_left — November 23, 2007 @ 2:00 am
Am I the only one here that finds this suspicious?
November 23rd, 2007 at 7:36 amyes, you know, those neocons and their whole
"unitary executive" thing isnt at all, in any way, like a dictator......
the whole "we're at war, and we'll be at war until i say we arent anymore, and when we're at war, I have unlimited power" thing isnt like a dictatorship at all...
November 23rd, 2007 at 8:11 amThe neocons are like the Nazis, except for their utter lack of intelligence or courage.
Comment by Perry logan
Ahm, you know Godwin's law, right? You just terminated this thread.
Please think before you write. I don't like the neocons, either. But to suggest that Nazis are smart and courageous is just plain stupid. Bill O'Reilly has a field day with dumb comments like that.
November 23rd, 2007 at 8:17 amPlease think before you write. I don’t like the neocons, either. But to suggest that Nazis are smart and courageous is just plain stupid. Bill O’Reilly has a field day with dumb comments like that.
Comment by frenchfries — November 23, 2007 @ 8:17 am
as a comparison, it stands on its own. and, really, who cares what O'Rielly says/ he's just another coward version of Goebbels anyway.
November 23rd, 2007 at 8:24 amUsing the words "good and compassionate" in the same sentence with George Bush is an oxymoron. But then Bush is an ox and a moron.
Perhaps it is the people who aren't in the top 1% of the top 10% who don't realize just how compassionate and good George Bush is. You know those who didn't see his compassion in vetoing childrens health insurance. Or the good in his pretending to look for WMD in the safety of the oval office while soldiers were killing and dying in Iraq on his wild goose chase. Perhaps they just don't get his compassion in asking limbless veterans to give back their signing bonuses because they can no longer serve in the military.
Please Mr. Corker, explain to us all what you mean when you talk about Bush's compassion and goodness. We would all like to know just what the hell you are talking about.
Did he compassionately pass you a coaster for your near beer in one of those meetings? Perhaps he was good enough to give you a back rub like he did Angela Merckel at the G-8 summit. Such compassion, such goodness!!!
November 23rd, 2007 at 8:25 amLiberals/Socialists (e.g. Chavez, Castro) are always more inclined to lead to a totalitarian state than are Conservatives.
Comment by cold_hard_left — November 23, 2007 @ 3:13 am
Not counting the conservatives we put in place after the CIA overthrows liberals and socialists.
November 23rd, 2007 at 10:06 am>So-called “progressives†think that Nazis are intelligent and courageous >and now here it is for all the world to see.
Uhm yes feel free to latch on one sensational remark and ignore the rest of the debate....so you can go ahead believe in your mind of minds that pro-war, pro-torture, pro-unlimited powers for a president ISNT at all nazi-like?
November 23rd, 2007 at 10:08 amComment by cold_hard_left — November 23, 2007 9:58 AM
Do you think militarism, might makes right, is a solution to problems?
November 23rd, 2007 at 10:09 am>Liberals/Socialists (e.g. Chavez, Castro) are always more inclined to lead >to a totalitarian state than are Conservatives.
anyone remember what the political leanings of Mussolini and Pinochet were?
November 23rd, 2007 at 10:11 amSo-called “progressives†think that Nazis are intelligent and courageous and now here it is for all the world to see. Sheesh. Debate over.
Comment by cold_hard_left — November 23, 2007 @ 9:58 am
Saying that Nazis were smart and courageous is a simple statement of fact, not a value judgement. Like it or not, they were brilliant tacticians in terms of political propaganda and military strategy, and they had to have some serious cojones to take over much of Western Europe and exterminate a significant portion of their own population. Luckily for all of civilization, the Allied forces were more intelligent and more courageous and defeated the Nazis.
November 23rd, 2007 at 10:12 amSo-called “progressives†think that Nazis are intelligent and courageous and now here it is for all the world to see. -CHL
I wouldnt call might is right thinking intelligent. But thats exactly what your doing when backing the might is right thinking of the current authoritarian administration. Bomb this, bomb that, bomb here, bomb there, bomb bomb bomb.
It requires very little intelligence.
November 23rd, 2007 at 10:13 amAnd it’s a damn good argument to give TexAss back to Mexico. Problem now is that we would have pay them the take TexAss off our hands with GW Botch living there!!!!!!!
Comment by dixie blood
When did the Gen'ral Lee get wi-fi? And how do you blog without spillin' Uncle Jesse's moonshine?
As a Texas Blood, I must ask:
Why blame the soil
For the steaming pile of sh*t
Dropped by someone else?
Do you curse your turf when someone else stains it?
Blame the man, not the state.
November 23rd, 2007 at 10:25 amSee you at the smackdown. Try to bring around 10 of your friends, just so it is fair.
Comment by Keltoi at Night — November 23, 2007 @ 1:58 am
Hmm this sounds familiar.
November 23rd, 2007 at 10:37 amYou wouldn't know a certain, trollish fool calling himself Dr. Dog would you?????
No, of course you (would claim) you don't.............
Blame the man, not the state.
Comment by DieNowForPeace — November 23, 2007 @ 10:25 am
This fellow Texan salutes you.
Bush is not a real Texan.... he is a blue-blood Northeasterner spoiled brat that was immigrated to Texas with his Father.
He is as Texan as those made in China "Support The Troops" magnets people slap on their cars.
November 23rd, 2007 at 10:47 am( then those people ignore the disabled veteran on the streetcorner asking for change to get something to eat for breakfast.)
You wouldn’t know a certain, trollish fool calling himself Dr. Dog would you?????
No, of course you (would claim) you don’t………….
Comment by Wayne — November 23, 2007 @ 10:37 am
Ah yes, the good Doctor... another satisfied Neuticlesâ„¢ customer.
When asked, Dr Dog replied, "I'd say they're as good as the real things, but seeing as I never used the originals when I still had 'em, I really don't know what I'm talking about..."
November 23rd, 2007 at 10:49 amBush is dumber than dried-up dog crap
November 23rd, 2007 at 10:54 am"Do you curse your turf when someone else stains it?
Blame the man, not the state."
Comment by DieNowForPeace
This would be the same state that lionized his father? If we see no airports or parkways in Texas named after junior after he leaves office, the point will be valid - but if they start naming stuff after him, you can't just ignore it; stupid is, as stupid does.
November 23rd, 2007 at 11:00 amThis is especially appalling as Corker is somewhat of an idiot himself.
So the idiot Repukelickin from Tennesee thinks the CINC is a moron...
Wow, we're really in trouble. Would someone provide a distraction, something shiny, for the chymp to play with for the next 15 months so he's too busy to blow the world up?
November 23rd, 2007 at 11:00 amWow, we’re really in trouble. Would someone provide a distraction, something shiny, for the chymp to play with for the next 15 months so he’s too busy to blow the world up?
Comment by RUCerious — November 23, 2007 @ 11:00 am
How is this going to stop Cheney from bombing Iran?
November 23rd, 2007 at 11:10 amRon Suskind's book about what Paul O'Neill had to stand while working with the idiotic president has many similar insights. He told Andy Card once to go fetch them some cheeseburgers.
cheeseburgers
.
November 23rd, 2007 at 11:12 ambut if they start naming stuff after him, you can’t just ignore it; stupid is, as stupid does.
Comment by barfly — November 23, 2007 @ 11:00 am
We are fighting against a gerrymandered system here in Texas, there are alot of people opposed to the Bush Crime family and the havoc they have wreaked with the Texas political system.
I guess you blame the blacks who live im Mississippi for the slaying of the civil rights workers in the 60s along with the rest of the state for what a few criminals did back then too, huh?
Maybe we should raze Florida, because Jeb was Governor there.......
November 23rd, 2007 at 11:14 am/snark
Barfly,
What do you propose for the US as a whole, since Bush is not exactly the President of Texas?
Half of the US voters have as much sense as a bag of hair. And those who don't vote, don't have any at all.
November 23rd, 2007 at 11:20 amHow is this going to stop Cheney from bombing Iran?
Comment by toasterhead — November 23, 2007 @ 11:10 am
We have to make sure Cheny's handlers are no longer allowed to pick up puppys at the local pound.
You see, without his supply of puppy blood, Cheney would have to hibernate. Then we can drag his coffin into the sun. =D
November 23rd, 2007 at 11:26 amIf we see no airports or parkways in Texas named after junior
Yes, let's blame the population at large for the corporate interests who might choose to name a project after the Shrub.
Hell, if we don't burn him out, I guess we're just tea-baggin yahoo, blind-faith supporters!!!!!
I'm sorry, maybe this will make you feel better...
HAIL BUSH! HAIL BUSH!
November 23rd, 2007 at 11:30 amBush is not a real Texan…. he is a blue-blood Northeasterner spoiled brat that was immigrated to Texas with his Father.
Comment by Wayne — November 23, 2007 @ 10:47 am
George bin George is arguably much more Texan than George Abu George. Craig Unger writes about it quite interestingly in Fall of the House of Bush
November 23rd, 2007 at 11:32 amAnd it’s a damn good argument to give TexAss back to Mexico. Problem now is that we would have pay them the take TexAss off our hands with GW Botch living there!!!!!!!
Comment by dixie blood
Blame the man, not the state.
Comment by DieNowForPeace — November 23, 2007 @ 10:25 am
Also, you couldn't pay us enough to accept Texas with Dubya living there.
November 23rd, 2007 at 11:33 amTexas has NO state income, so it's a popular place for the rich "to call home".
5th generation types like myself can thank them for over-inflated housing prices and ugly-as-hell McMansions.
Please, piss-off, transplant, Repuke yankee a$$-holes.
November 23rd, 2007 at 11:38 am-oops, funny!
read: "no state income tax"
The wife's laptop keyboard has a prob with the 'i' key, and I have to keep re-typing everythng!!!
November 23rd, 2007 at 11:39 amAlso, you couldn’t pay us enough to accept Texas with Dubya living there.
Comment by Luis M — November 23, 2007 @ 11:33 am
Southern Methodist University Staff Fiercely Protest Bush Presidential Library
You anti-Texas bigots can bite my a$$.
November 23rd, 2007 at 11:40 amYou anti-Texas bigots can bite my a$$.
Comment by Wayne — November 23, 2007 @ 11:40 am
Hey, Texas is pretty cool. It's like a whole other country. I've got family living there. Plus, it's got the Dallas Cowboys (10-1, hell yeah!).
Just send Dubya someplace else, please.
November 23rd, 2007 at 11:50 amPlease, piss-off, transplant, Repuke yankee a$$-holes.
Comment by DieNowForPeace — November 23, 2007 @ 11:38 am
Exactly
November 23rd, 2007 at 11:50 amPlus, it’s got the Dallas Cowboys (10-1, hell yeah!).
Just send Dubya someplace else, please.
Comment by Luis M — November 23, 2007 @ 11:50 am
Dallas slaughtered the Jets so badly yesterday. That must have been painfully embarrassing for New Yorkers to watch. LOL
November 23rd, 2007 at 11:55 amWe are fighting against a gerrymandered system here in Texas, there are alot of people opposed to the Bush Crime family and the havoc they have wreaked with the Texas political system.
I guess you blame the blacks who live im Mississippi for the slaying of the civil rights workers in the 60s along with the rest of the state for what a few criminals did back then too, huh?
Maybe we should raze Florida, because Jeb was Governor there…….
/snark
Comment by Wayne
Having been to Texas a number of times, I know the kind of folk who reside there. Ya'll (see? I even speak the lingo) think the sun rises and sets on Texan bravery and fortitude. I've got news for ya: you aren't any better than the rest of us, and Jim Bowie died a long time ago. Texas is a smoggy sh*thole, and if you choose to stay, it's your business; but Texas has a lot to answer for. The only president assassinated in modern times died there (after being warned not to go), Texas has an excess of religious nutbags unmatched by any state but Utah, and your law enforcement officers have a tendency to play fast and loose with the law (I've been there and seen it, more than once). So go ahead and keep carrying that high opinion of yourselves, and we'll keep laughing at you.
And no, I don't blame the blacks for what happened in the 50's. They were poor, and couldn't just move to a less bigoted state. What's your excuse?
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:00 pm"Dallas slaughtered the Jets so badly yesterday. That must have been painfully embarrassing for New Yorkers to watch. LOL"
Comment by Wayne
I rest my case.
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:01 pmDallas slaughtered the Jets so badly yesterday. That must have been painfully embarrassing for New Yorkers to watch. LOL
Comment by Wayne — November 23, 2007 @ 11:55 am
Not for those of us who are Giants fans. WABAM!
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:08 pmWhat’s your excuse?
Comment by barfly — November 23, 2007 @ 12:00 pm
Why should I explain to you that a good portion of my family resides in East Texas, on the Alabama-Coushatta reservation?
Have you ever been to Austin?
I rest my case.
Comment by barfly — November 23, 2007 @ 12:01 pm
Good thing, because it was embarrassingly faulty.
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:13 pmYou have learned how to project far reaching conclusions from incomplete data from the resident trolls well.
How is this going to stop Cheney from bombing Iran?
Comment by toasterhead — November 23, 2007 @ 11:10 am
Uh, take the batteries out of his red light saber?
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:21 pmTexas has an excess of religious nutbags unmatched by any state but Utah,
Comment by barfly — November 23, 2007 @ 12:00 pm
Ted Haggard was senior pastor of New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colo.
Which states allowed the teaching of creationism in schools again?
Which states and counties were told to remove the 10 commandments from the courthouses?
Kennedy was not shot by religious nutbags in Texas, by the way. That one has never even made into history as a Conspiracy Theory, as far as I can see.
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:24 pmUh, take the batteries out of his red light saber?
Comment by RUCerious — November 23, 2007 @ 12:21 pm
LOL
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:44 pm“Dallas slaughtered the Jets so badly yesterday. That must have been painfully embarrassing for New Yorkers to watch. LOLâ€
Comment by Wayne
I rest my case.
Comment by barfly — November 23, 2007 @ 12:01 pm
I am still lmao over you resting your case on a comment about a football game.....
How does this relate to your faulty, bigoted argument against all Texans?
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:54 pmCome'on, Barfly, You usually have better logic in your posts than that.
Bush should be impeached, followed up by trying him as a war criminal. But heck, if they ever get close to such a tribunal, the war criminal will flee the country. Why do you think he sent Jena to buy acreage in Paraguay?
Does Paraguay have oil? Brazil just found more oil reserves, right? Ah, the best of both worlds ... a war criminal's haven, plus oil! Would Paraguay cooperate with extradition? I don't think so ... that's why the land was bought there.
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:58 pmWayne’s got your number too.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — November 23, 2007 @ 12:51 pm
Dog posted the same exact thing to me, word for word, when he challenged me to meet him at the local boxing gym in Austin.
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:06 pmFrom New England and can’t even ride a horse.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — November 23, 2007 @ 12:53 pm
They skeer him
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:08 pmlmao
Uh, take the batteries out of his red light saber?
Comment by RUCerious — November 23, 2007 @ 12:21 pm
How about taking the battery out of his pacemaker?
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:19 pmBeing unable to meet us in head on debate, the RNC has turned to trying to slip in double agents, guys who pretend to be moderate, but who’s real purpose is to back the left off their positions.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — November 23, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
Yeah... I agree w/ that observation. I had noticed that subtle little shift in tactics too.
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:21 pmThese are the lines you’ll hear from the new “UberTrollsâ€, to try and kill discussion and diminish peoples passion on an issue.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — November 23, 2007 @ 1:27 pm
In total agreement. It started about 3 or 4 months ago. Just a tiny little shift in the comments, but just enough to accomplish what you're pointing out. That's EXACTLY what I thought that was about at the time, too - the latest in troll technology.
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:31 pmThere was just too much stuff coming out for the neocon trolls to defend, Dr Dog became “KELTOIâ€, the mr “Moderate who just wants reasonable debate†LMAO.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — November 23, 2007 @ 1:36 pm
It began right after the "Mr P On Meth Incident" and TP finally put in registration. I have caught trolls working off of scripts.
There was a comment one of them made one day back in May or so - "The Dems are playing w/ you guys the way we play w/ out religious nuts". Then about 6 weeks later a different troll made the EXACT same comment - "The Dems are playing... blah blah blah".
The same, EXACT wording 6 weeks apart. Very creepy, to think folks are actually sitting out there, jimmying up false IDS and coming here just to F w/ yer head.
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:44 pmSound familiar?
Comment by cold_hard_left
No, only in your pea brain.
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:03 pmIts all part of the Bob Jones\Messiah U cyber debating team.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — November 23, 2007 @ 1:54 pm
I read a little about this but haven't had the time to look at it closer.
Creepy stuff from creepy people.
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:16 pmComment by Keltoi at Night — November 23, 2007 @ 1:58 am
BARTLEBEE and Goebbels have a lot in common.
Comment by cold_hard_left — November 23, 2007 @ 2:00 am
Am I the only one here that finds this suspicious?
Comment by troll buster
Yep. Keltoi had tried to position himself as a "reasonable" conservative who is just here to debate. But his black soul needs a way to express what he really thinks and feels so he created the other persona cold_hard so that he could let his nastiness shine.
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:17 pmThe same, EXACT wording 6 weeks apart. Very creepy, to think folks are actually sitting out there, jimmying up false IDS and coming here just to F w/ yer head.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
They wouldn't be able to F w/ yer head if we would just ignore them and report them for abuse. Or talk about them like they weren't there. That really makes them mad. What we need to NOT do is to give them the recognition they so clearly want. I know I occasionally fall into that trap, but I still think we need to stop doing it.
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:20 pmBart:
With the exception of two very brief unanswered posts, K troll was MIA almost four days, after a few of posters here accused him of having multiple identities. But suddenly he comes out of the shadows when I asked Ralf a question. Isn't that curious?
Ralf, I agree with you, there are several trolls fouling up TP. But in my opinion, there may be one or two individuals who are using more than identities. I’m curious, have you noticed that one of the more benign trolls has been keeping a very low profile here, since he was accused by a few TP posters of being the troll UL?
Comment by troll buster — November 21, 2007 @ 11:56 am
Ah, Trollology.
If you are refering to me, not sure, I haven’t been posting much lately but am still only one person.
Comment by Keltoi — November 21, 2007 @ 12:05 pm
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:33 pm"I don’t see any posts at 12:05 and certainly not one from Keltoi."
Try using this link:
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:57 pmhttp://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/21/oreilly-afghanistan-uso/
"So Keltoi, the “moderate†who’s only interested in “reasonable debate†is in the Bill Oreilly thread defending the most far right radical wingnut on the face of the planet, ay?"
Please go back to that thread and pay attention to messages #10, #14, #15, #17, #18, #21, #24, #27 & #28
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:10 pmWhat do you think, does message #21 sound like someone you know?
@233
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:35 pmHe wasn't defending Billo, he had been hiding for several days. My question to Ralf brought him out of the shadows. BTW, I have added several of K trolls posts to the list I'm compiling. It's about half done, he hasn't been here that long, so I may finish reading all his posts this weekend.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — November 23, 2007 @ 3:40 pm
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:51 pmBoy did you get my intent wrong. I have nothing but respect for Ralf, he is a stand-up guy and he has covered my back a couple times . I was using Ralf to draw out the K troll, my gut told me he was here trolling and I needed to ask someone that question about the missing benign troll, and I knew Ralf would answer.
My point was that K troll was there all along and was fouling the site with a couple new identities.
And comment 21 is CLASSIC KELTOI.
Is that what you meant?
Comment by BARTLEBEE — November 23, 2007 @ 3:36 pm
yes
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:57 pmComment by BARTLEBEE — November 23, 2007 @ 3:55 pm
November 23rd, 2007 at 4:06 pmWe all can't agree on everything with everyone. The reason why I find trolls so disgusting is that they cause us to distrust other genuine posters, because one can never be certain who is real. I used to post here under another name but this place was such a cluster-f**k that I gave up and just lurked. If the troll infestation can be brought under reasonable control, I will post again. TP will never be troll free but as long as they are isolated and contained this can be an interesting place. It also would be no fun if we all agreed on everything, that is what the wing-nuts are all about.
Oh, and to all of you Bush bootlickers out there (I know you are lurking):
This thread is about a Republican Senator being surprised at the lack of depth in Bush's knowledge of Iraq, and the lack of complexity in his conversations about it.
In other words, this Senator just felt short of calling the man you so revere "stupid" and/or "ignorant".
That's the man you idolize, as described by one in his own party. Now sod you.
November 23rd, 2007 at 4:19 pm"They expose the right wing as a lying corrupt bunch of scumbags better than any one of us could ever do."
I agree with that 100%, but sometimes the ba$tards derail important threads and the concern trolls confuse the issue. I am all for exposing trolls for who and what they are, then ignore them or talk about them. It is a waste of bandwidth trying to reason with them.
November 23rd, 2007 at 4:24 pmIt should be interesting to what tactic K troll will use next. He has lost the use of a couple of his alter egos this week, they have been marginalized. The little turd is not going to give up easily.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — November 23, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
There was some name-jacking done here even after the registration, one of the trolls was boasting about how he pulled it off. Please trust me on this, there is no way Ralf is anything but 100% genuine.
November 23rd, 2007 at 4:28 pmComment by BARTLEBEE — November 23, 2007 @ 4:24 pm
No need to apologise, Bartlebee. My post wasn't directed at you. My apologies if you got that impression.
I just wanted to remind the blind followers that even Republicans now are discovering how uncurious and shallow George Bush is.
It's almost scary it took them this long to figure it out. He must have had them scared witless with his stories of the Muslim bogeyman.
November 23rd, 2007 at 4:28 pmComment by Gregor Samsa — November 23, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
Sorry George, didn't mean to derail this thread. It's an older thread and I wrongly assumed it wasn't of interest to others.
November 23rd, 2007 at 4:31 pmCorrection: sorry Gregor
November 23rd, 2007 at 4:32 pmNo worries, troll buster.
That was a public service announcement directed at the Bush cultists.
You may return to with your regularly scheduled programming now .
;-)
November 23rd, 2007 at 4:36 pmyou know the whole Texas bashing thing is rather old from ones like bar fly and dixie blood . Its like saying all muslims are islamic terrorists. Texas has been a cash cow for democrats and progressives raising funds on a national level. bar fly and dixie blood are great at setting up Texas strawmen and knocking them down ..much like GW and his press secretary . I am allied with progressives no matter what their locale , whether its nebraska , alaska , mississippi , or massachusetts, frankly they exhibit the ignorance and parochialism I expect out of xenophobic republicans .
November 23rd, 2007 at 7:08 pmI am somewhat confused by what Sen. Corker is saying here. Others have complained about some of the very shortcomings that Corker is talking about regarding a policy that only relies on the military.
Those folks have singled out the State Department for the lack of presence they have had in this whole theatre of operations. I have said "amen" to those critics as diplomacy has indeed been in short supply. Here though Corker is fingering the Treasury Department. This tends to show me that Corker is lacking in many of the same areas he being so critical of Bush shortcomings. Corker has also sat in on a number of hearings where he was in a position to press on his concerns yet said nothing. Laughter of the unfunny kind seems to be the appropriate response.
November 23rd, 2007 at 8:15 pmBartlebee; the part that confuses me is "Here though Corker is fingering the Treasury Department". I realized that Corker was calling Bush an idiot but at the same time that is pot calling kettle black (they are both idiots).
November 24th, 2007 at 1:05 amCorker's a lightweight in terms of intelligence, just like Bush, so they are a good match for each other.
Here's proof. Corker ran two TV ads in the days before the '06 election in which he "introduced" his family; he ended the ads by saying, respectively:
"I'm Bob Corker, and I approved this message because I wanted you to meet my girls"
and
"I'm Bob Corker, and I approved this message because I wanted you to meet my wife."
November 24th, 2007 at 12:03 pm"They expose the right wing as a lying corrupt bunch of scumbags better than any one of us could ever do."
There's that, plus there's the fact that they could not think, spell, or otherwise write cogently if their lives depended on it. These are the kids who begged teachers and professors for "A"s because they showed up to class sober some of the time.
November 25th, 2007 at 1:48 pm