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Glenn Beck: Poor people are ‘lazy.’

By Amanda on Nov 24th, 2007 at 5:32 pm

Glenn Beck: Poor people are ‘lazy.’»

In his new book, An Inconvenient Book, right-wing CNN host Glenn Beck argues that “poor people are, in fact, lazy” and supposedly goes “paragraph for paragraph with global-warming alarmist Al Gore, merrily slaughtering the sacred cows of the environmentalist crowd.” From the Publisher’s Weekly description:

In this appraisal of America’s woes, conservative TV and talk-radio host Beck (The Real America) lays lighthearted siege to everything that makes the world worse. [P]olitical correctness is the biggest threat this nation faces today, he declares, as it makes us prey for Islamic fundamentalists, renders taboo the roots of our economic troubles (poor people are, in fact, lazy, he argues) and creates rampant distortion in the media. Beck goes paragraph for paragraph with global-warming alarmist Al Gore, merrily slaughtering the sacred cows of the environmentalist crowd. Not sated by the hide of the former vice president, he goes after everything and everyone from poverty to perverts, offering solutions to these and other problems (e.g., the key to success in the capitalist system is to believe in it).

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120 Responses to “Glenn Beck: Poor people are ‘lazy.’”


  1. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Coming to a landfill near you…


  2. VerbalKint Says:

    Stupid people pay attention to Glenn Beck.


  3. ucsbclassics53 Says:

    yeah, I know! They only work from 8 am to 3 pm, 5 days a week, 180 days a year. Never mind the unpaid countless hours of grading, coming up with lesson plans, assessment, tutoring, etc. /sarcasm


  4. Loonie Says:

    I thought Islamofascism was the biggest threat the US of the good ol’ A faced? I wish these Regressives would make up their minds.


  5. bilbobaggins Says:

    Coming to a landfill near you…
    Comment by The Republic of Stupidity

    Not until after the RNC and other conservative groups buy enough pallets of his book to make it a “best seller”. Then they try to sell them and when they can’t sell them they give them away and when they can’t give them away, they have them destroyed. They can’t return the books for a refund because that would go against the “sales”. That’s how Mann Coulter has become a “best selling” author. It’s a real scam.


  6. And Yet... Says:

    Coming to a landfill near you…

    Or, if you have the misfortune to be gifted w/it this holiday season by wingnut relatives (I received Billo’s tome last year), those sheets of paper inside the cover, the ones w/the printing on them, rip out easily & are as good as old newspaper between the fireplace kindling.


  7. gummitch Says:

    Beck appears to be fantasizing that his book will sell like recent books from Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert — hence the “funny” part. Except it seems highly unlikely that there is anything funny about his writing at all — unless the word is used to mean “Hmmm, something smells funny in this garbage can. Who dumped all the dog poop in here?”


  8. GSD Says:

    An Inconvenient Hour.

    The time I spent reviewing this book.

    -Mr. Book Reviewer


  9. tnrc75 Says:

    Oooh….”An Inconvenient Book”. I get it….because…..uh, Al…oh fuggit.


  10. tnrc75 Says:

    America’s most trusted name in news, CNN.


  11. joe cantwell Says:

    how much for the book?


  12. tnrc75 Says:

    Joe @ 12-they pay you $5, and you take it off their hands.


  13. Cambio de Orden Says:

    Glenn Beck has no employable skills to function in the professional workforce, so he resorts to accepting corporate welfare (far, far worse than welfare for individuals and families) and stereotyping people to compensate for his own inadequacies. His job is talking through a tin can attached to string. The world, I’m sure, couldn’t function without his indispensible services.

    Neo-cons are title seekers: They want a job to “flaunt” in the private sector, or to increase their leverage for a job there. Don’t be fooled - Neocons generally work for none of the money for which they complain to be “overtaxed.”


  14. upside99 Says:

    Reading anything written by beck would be like reading something by some Nazi Underling of Adolf circa 1939 or so. ……….And would have even less validity.


  15. Lefty Patriot Says:

    Glenn Beck knows lazy; there isn’t anybody intellectually lazier than the fat neocons who will demonize those who would make this a free country.



  16. mandolin Says:

    littlegreenfootballs.com has exposed Think Progress.


  17. Erroll Says:

    Beck’s book would seem to be about as accurate as Ann Coulter’s book praising former Senator Joe McCarthy for being a patriotic American. If Beck wishes to attack those things that are politically correct, then perhaps his book will go after those who believe it is instinctively patriotic to start wars for no justifiable reason and to react viscerally, which would be politically correct, rather than examining the issue critically instead of automatically saluting the flag.


  18. Cambio de Orden Says:

    Neocon language:

    Teachers = Overpaid

    Underlings (those doing the dirty work) = Bums, subordinates. Deserve to be laid off, have their wages withheld.


  19. Vincennes Says:

    I think stupidity is the greatest threat to America … and it’s doing a pretty good job right now.


  20. Cambio de Orden Says:

    Neocons: Lazy = Working. Compensate generously. Repeat as desired. Refuse to consider individual circumstances, label as “welfare bum.” Group all into one.


  21. spankbot Says:

    Looks like Geogre Soros’s propaganda site has been caught deleting comments…


  22. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    “Political correctness is the biggest threat this nation faces today.”

    Well then, in the interest of national security, I won’t be polite: Glenn Beck is a flaming a-hole.

    Everybody needs to pay attention to this: The biggest threat to our nation today, is that we have been robbed and swindled. The treasury is empty, and we are broke. Our finances have been so mismanaged by the “conservatives”, that the coming economic crash will change the face of America.

    Political correctness my ass.


  23. Cambio de Orden Says:

    ….who would make this a free country.

    Comment by Lefty Patriot — November 24, 2007 @ 6:27 pm

    A fat country, too. Have they run out of things to fry yet? I bet they haven’t tried Coca Cola! Oh, wait…


  24. mandolin Says:

    Is it criminal for a non-profit group to censor political speech? ThinkProgress better hope it isn’t.

    They have now been exposed for doing that over at littlegreenfootballs.com


  25. Lefty Patriot Says:

    They have now been exposed for doing that over at littlegreenfootballs.com

    Comment by mandolin — November 24, 2007 @ 6:41 pm

    Too bad nobody who visits LGF can read…


  26. troll buster Says:

    I see one of the old trolls is back after a three month absence. Poor K-troll is having to dig deep into stash of identities.


  27. troll buster Says:

    correction: into his stash of identities


  28. Cambio de Orden Says:

    Comment by mandolin — November 24, 2007 @ 6:41 pm

    When a troll misbehaves themself to the point of being banned, technology can be reasonably deployed to save the quality of the thread.

    Have your field day over nothing, even if this is one of your “broken watch” moments.


  29. Snowball Says:

    And LGF will let anyone post opinions, er… that is if you agree lock step with their far right agenda.


  30. Cambio de Orden Says:

    Comment by mandolin — November 24, 2007 @ 6:27 pm

    Oh, so that’s Lazy Fred T’s campaign plan.

    You’ve done it, mandorin, and the cat’s out of the bag: We now know who the next president of the United States will be.

    Brilliant!


  31. Lefty Patriot Says:

    What do you know, we have a one-string mandolin on board, and out-of-tune at that!


  32. Lefty Patriot Says:

    They have now been exposed for doing that over at littlegreenfootballs.com

    Comment by mandolin — November 24, 2007 @ 6:41 pm

    everybody’s known that LGF censors political speech from the beginning. tehe right cannot handle the truth; it’s unfamiliar and scary territory for their poor tiny brains.


  33. Cambio de Orden Says:

    Glenn Beck: Poor people are ‘lazy.’

    In the same course catalog -

    Course: Essentials of Good Parenting
    Instructor: Brittany Spears


  34. Cambio de Orden Says:

    Comment by Lefty Patriot — November 24, 2007 @ 6:58 pm

    Good point. And besides, in addition to their rightful banning, it’s good to put the offending troll in a position of talking to himself.

    Once it takes the offending troll months to figure it out, they’re the self-proclaimed Einsteins of the 21st century.


  35. espo Says:

    no one cares what beck has to say, why does TP?


  36. troll buster Says:

    From the LGF site:
    Comments are open and unmoderated, and do not necessarily reflect the views of Little Green Footballs.
    Obscene, abusive, silly, or annoying remarks may be deleted


  37. MapleStreet Says:

    I’ll raise the bar on the “poor teacher” comments above. I know of many poor people where both the husband and wife work 2 minimum-wage jobs to make ends meet. 80 hours a week. No benefits = no vacations, no healthcare, etc.

    And in the Carolinas, summer in 100+ degree heat, the folks on the road shoveling asphalt in the noonday sun, I’m sure everyone who drove by thought how easy this looked in comparison with their nice air-conditioned offices. Could we arrange to have Beck do this for a week and video tape it ?


  38. tarazan Says:

    And what does Glenn do for the millions of dollars that CNN pays him?
    He is very much overpaid for what he does.

    Only in America such a clown can make millions of dollars.
    Other countries don’t pay or have such expensive clows like him,Limbaugh and others like them.
    And if they do have a clowns in other countries,they will not be paid as much.

    He is attacking the poor for being ‘lazy’..because he is acting as the elite…the one that makes millions of dollars selling rubbish on CNN tv. screen.


  39. had enough Says:

    Strip Beck from his name, material wealth, education /job experience and put him in a poor neighborhood with only qualifications for a minimum wage job… Oh, and change his skin color to, and let’s see what his new opinion would be.
    Beck and others like him are absolute fools making these statements when they have no clue.


  40. jb Says:

    Beck is a goofy dipshit. Anybody who thinks his opinion matters is desperate beyond hope.


  41. Cambio de Orden Says:

    Progressive taxation is a great way to reduce overcompensation of the real bums of the U.S. (Glen Beck!)

    Too bad W. allows them to duck the system.


  42. tnrc75 Says:

    Ooh, give LGF a Pulitzer for that investigative reporting….


  43. Cambio de Orden Says:

    Who, for the love of God, should be paid millions every year to spout uneducated drivel, “Poor people are ‘lazy.’

    Yet we “don’t have the money” to save social security or improve healthcare or pay good teachers the six-figure salaries they deserve.

    We’re the richest nation on the planet, yet we can’t get our spending priorities straight.

    Back to the burning issues, is Beck buying his 6th home anytime soon?


  44. mandolin Says:

    everybody’s known that LGF censors political speech from the beginning. tehe right cannot handle the truth; it’s unfamiliar and scary territory for their poor tiny brains.

    Comment by Lefty Patriot — November 24, 2007 @ 6:58 pm

    LGF is not a non-profit organization like think progress is. You can bet that lawyers are reviewing this as we speak.


  45. pete Says:

    I think they’ve discovered where little trolls come from.

    http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/11/21/5375/


  46. Erroll Says:

    Beck’s comments are not backed up by facts. Frequent studies have shown that between a third and half of recipients who left the welfare rolls were not able to land full time employment. The average wage for these recipients is less than $7 an hour. Two-thirds of those who were able to obtain employment did not have health insurance coverage. Like something out of a Dickens novel, about half of former recipients said they had skipped a meal in order to make their food last until the end of the month while 40 per cent said they haven’t been able to pay rent, mortgage, or utility bills at least once in the previous year.

    The above all makes socialism seem to be a lot better alternative than the disaster of the current system of capitalism which the United States takes such pride in.


  47. pete Says:

    From TP’s Terms of use: you acknowledge and agree that we may do one or all of the following: (a) monitor the Submissions; (b) alter, edit, or remove any Submission in whole or in part;

    Go away trolls, you waste our time.


  48. Buckie Boy Says:

    Well it seems Fascist Puke Beck has never worked with “poor people”, they are there because, well, I won’t go there, but I understand their struggle and it is not because they are lazy. They all have different reasons that they are poor, mostly it is an inability to focus, they were not raised that way nor were they taught how to focus on how to succeed.
    I worked with many and I tell you it was not their fault, upbringing and family support in a positive way mean alot, and believe me many had NO POSTITIVE support at all.

    Buch Fush


  49. troll buster Says:

    How much would you like to bet that the troll didn’t read this?

    By clicking “Post - I Agree” below, you acknowledge that you have read our Terms of Use agreement and agree to its terms.


  50. kasinca Says:

    Beck is obviously talking about the red necked, trailer trash, in the red states who voted for Dubya and who watch trash like Beck and FAUXNOIZ. Thinking people don’t even know who Beck is.


  51. lefty Says:

    In the past when I’ve posted things on Redstate, they boot me immediately. But of course the conservative mind won’t dare compare the two. If they started doing things like that their heads would explode.


  52. lefty Says:

    Beck is the embodiement of the stupidity of American politics.


  53. stewarjt Says:

    “…he goes after everything and everyone from poverty to perverts,..”

    It takes one to know one. Really, though, is there anything that this guy knows well, that qualifies him to speak as an authority?


  54. kasinca Says:

    Who is this freeper? Why is he on TV?


  55. Zooey Says:

    Beck…..zzzzzzzzzzz


  56. pete Says:

    I wonder how much Beck pays some “poor person” to mow his lawn?


  57. SP Biloxi Says:

    Beck is an ass.

    Memo to CNN: Drop kick Beck. There are decent journalists that you can find on the unemployment line.


  58. jb Says:

    Glenn Beck is poor no matter how much money he is given by the corporate media. A shallow mind coupled with willful ignorance is a poverty of being.


  59. Lefty Patriot Says:

    LGF is not a non-profit organization like think progress is. You can bet that lawyers are reviewing this as we speak.

    Comment by mandolin — November 24, 2007 @ 7:39 pm

    I’ll take that bet, you poor, deluded, uneducated, ignorant Beck-watcher.


  60. Zooey Says:

    A shallow mind coupled with willful ignorance is a poverty of being.
    Comment by jb — November 24, 2007 @ 9:02 pm

    Excellent…


  61. Innocent Bystander Says:

    No one gets paid millions of dollars to tell the truth. Truth is cheap. But telling lies to prop up the status quo….there are people who will pay big bucks for communicators who can convince people up is down, day is night, there’s no global warming, the poor are lazy, the left are traitors…etc, etc, etc


  62. Krazny Says:

    I read the back of Becks latest book. The best blurb, was him comparing poor people who have children as being terrible, since they can’t afford to raise children. He equates it to middle class people not owning luxury yachts, Because they can’t afford to. Of course he glosses over the difference between having children, and owning a luxury yacht.


  63. GL2814 Says:

    Poor people = people screwed over by the rich.

    Beck is an idiot.


  64. jb Says:

    Beck has sold his pathetic excuse for a soul to his corporate masters.


  65. Lefty Patriot Says:

    Beck is just another simple-minded tool of the oligarchy. IB’s point is right on the money: truth is cheap, the Big Lie costs a lot of money to be put out there often enough for it to work. the right wing is most susceptible to the lies, because they’re not fully-evolved, civilized humans yet. That explains their savage behavior and lack of diplomacy. the poor remain poor and downtrodden bcause the rich don’t want the bother of an educated, aware populace mucking up their easy way through their worthless lives.


  66. jb Says:

    Many “poor” people value their family and have a sense of their moral obligations to the rest of the world that the right wing fails recognize. Somebody said something once about the meek inheriting the earth. These oligarchs better watch out when the “poor” people have finally had enough.


  67. jb Says:

    Excellent…

    Comment by Zooey — November 24, 2007 @ 9:14 pm

    Thanks….through enough spaghetti at the ceiling and some is bound to stick.


  68. pete Says:

    Comment by Lefty Patriot — November 24, 2007 @ 9:26 pm

    Institutionalized ignorance is one of the oldest tricks around. If the masses don’t know what’s happening despots are safe. You may take your pick: the MSM, naming websites and colleges as “dangerous”, the religious war on science, etc.

    All the signs are there. Are enough of us aware to prevent the worst?


  69. Xisithrus Says:

    If they were to put Gwynn Blech out digging a ditch in the Texas summer heat, doing some real calorie burning work for 8 full hours, he would fall over from:

    A: Heat stroke
    B Heart attack
    C: Whining
    D: All the above


  70. Xisithrus Says:

    ..he goes after everything and everyone from poverty to perverts.

    The mans a self-hater.


  71. Xisithrus Says:

    Beck thinks usury involves work?

    BWAHAHAHAHAAAA Haa ahhhaa Haaa.


  72. Zooey Says:

    Thanks….through enough spaghetti at the ceiling and some is bound to stick.
    Comment by jb — November 24, 2007 @ 9:37 pm

    Sounds fun! :-D


  73. j swift Says:

    or they bust their ass, they just don’t get paid much.

    Oh, wait that does not make Beck feel superior, scratch that…


  74. SP Biloxi Says:

    Beck: A small mind with small genitals. Why is he still on the air?


  75. Zooey Says:

    Beck is poor…?


  76. Left Coast Mike Says:

    He won’t sell any books to republiscum unless they are picture books…


  77. eve Says:

    betcha’ Glenn spends all he makes. When he finally loses his jobs, he will find out about the road to poor.


  78. rehbock Says:

    The lazy like Beck who spew such nonsense rather than work hard to make valid argument are “poor” as in impoverished of soul, class, and intellect.


  79. Bluestocking Says:

    All this does is provide further support for the idea that the phrase “compassionate conservative” is an oxymoron and that Beck specifically (and possibly neoconservative Republicans generally) are nothing more than Social Darwinists who believe that someone’s net worth is synonymous with their worth as an individual or as a human being. Is a shallow and shiftless debutante like Paris Hilton, or a wealthy crook like Ken Lay, somehow a better person than your average working stiff simply because they make more money? The implication of Beck’s statement is that his answer would be “yes”. Beck would have us believe that everyone is born on an equal footing or has equal opportunities in this country, and that’s just not the case — even simply from a socio-economic perspective. It’s a well-established fact by this time that who you know is in its own way just as critical as what you know in order to get ahead in the work world — Mike Brown, the disgraced former chief of FEMA, is a prime example of this because it’s not a secret that he was given the post by virtue of his personal connections within the department despite having next to no experience in emergency services (and we all know how that turned out). It’s reasonable to think that children of privilege would have more powerful connections both academically and professionally than children of less influential families. Another example are “legacy” students at Ivy League and other prestigious universities. Do you honestly think that all these wealthy families give endowments to the school for no other reason than nostalgic affection for the good ol’ alma mater? Perhaps I’m just a cynic, but I don’t think so. I think that these endowments are at least in part an insurance policy for the next generation. If a prospective student’s parents have made generous donations to the school where they attended and where their child is applying, do you honestly think that the school is going to risk biting the hand that feeds them by denying that child admission — even if his or her grades aren’t quite up to snuff? I doubt it. Beck’s statement is a little too convenient — because if the poor are just “lazy”, then it gives him permission to avoid showing any concern or compassion for the less fortunate because all of the responsibility for their plight rests on their shoulders.

    I wonder…does Beck consider himself a Christian? If he does, methinks he desperately needs a refresher course in the Bible…because there are lots of references in the Bible about showing compassion for and offering assistance to the less fortunate.


  80. RUCerious Says:

    Ben Gleck is poor. In spirit.


  81. jb Says:

    Benny Gleck is poor. In knowledge, in reason, in morals, and most seriously in spirit.


  82. dr7854 Says:

    Glen Beck is nothing, but a Rush Limpdick wana be! All he needs is a couple hand fulls of Oxycontin a day, and to gain a 100lbs., or so, and he will be just as much as a scumbag, or he could cut his d**k off, and he would be a fat Ann Coulter! Either way he remains one of the lowest of the low life’s of the right wing fundamentalist talking heads!


  83. ucsbclassics53 Says:

    It’s a nice con game the elite play. Exploit the workers but blame them by calling them lazy and shiftless. How ironic that this has been used throughout our history by people who often did not have to work much for their money because they inherited it or whatever. Southern slaveholders thought their slaves were lazy and shiftless, not realizing that riding horses and courting Southern ladies were anything other than hard work. During Reconstruction, conservatives argued that giving 40 acres and a mule to the former slaves would be counterproductive because it was a handout and they didn’t deserve it because they should work for their land, forgetting that these slaves worked the land with their sweat and tears. Now fast forward and you have Glenn Beck blaming the poor for being lazy and shiftless. The rhetoric never changes.


  84. Perry logan Says:

    Right-wingers are degenerates.


  85. Juan C. Says:

    Comment by ucsbclassics53

    One of the best comments I’ve read here.

    Furthermore, I remember the owners of factories back in England saying that children should NOT be stripped of the “sacred” virtue of work, after workers were demanding children’s work ban.


  86. nofltwlt Says:

    Glenn is not the first person to express this sentiment; google Yoshi Tsrumi.

    Tsrumi is a Harvard professor who had the misfortune to have an under performer in one of his classes; this under performer is George W. Bush our little woodenhead illegitimate presdent Pinocchio.

    Tsrumi alluded that Bush expressed this same sentiment to him and that Bush admitted to Tsrumi the Bush 41 kept his devilish son out of the Vietnam war.


  87. Bluestocking Says:

    Glenn is not the first person to express this sentiment; google Yoshi Tsrumi.

    Tsrumi is a Harvard professor who had the misfortune to have an under performer in one of his classes; this under performer is George W. Bush our little woodenhead illegitimate presdent Pinocchio.

    Tsrumi alluded that Bush expressed this same sentiment to him and that Bush admitted to Tsrumi the Bush 41 kept his devilish son out of the Vietnam war. — Nofltwlt

    ******************************

    No surprises there, really. It simply serves to confirm and provide support for what I said earlier about legacy students and what most perceptive people figured out years ago simply by virtue of observation — that Bush not only probably attended Harvard Business School purely on the basis of his connections rather than his academic prowess (especially since he was reportedly a C-average student while at Yale and any other student with a comparable average and no connections would have virtually no hope of being accepted there) but that he has no real interest in or respect for the common man. It explains a lot…such as why Bush chose to single out Trent Lott in his comments in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, choosing to dwell on one wealthy person who had lost his home over the many poorer ones who had lost theirs and yet were nowhere nearly so materially blessed that it would be easy for them to rebuild. It also explains Bush’s infamous comment from the 2000 campaign “This is an impressive crowd — the haves and the have-mores…Some people call you the elites — I call you my base.” That comment is often dismissed as having been a joke — but perceptive people know that humor (particularly mean-spirited humor) is often indicative of underlying beliefs regardless of whether these are poenly and consciously acknowledged or not.


  88. barfly Says:

    Comment by cold_hard_left

    Have you read it? What are the inaccuracies that TP posted?

    And, they only stated what was known at the time about Rhodes. Is this the best you can do? Pitiful.


  89. Lefty Patriot Says:

    So, CHL, why woiuld any sane person doubt that beck would lie, gleefully and consistently, about liberals? It’s how he makes his living. I know you have no acquaintance with the truth on your side, but don’t be so busy projecting your gullibility and ignorance on the decidedly smarter sie of the blogosphere. You conveniently forget that we were 100% right about the consequences of the Bush presiduncy, and you are 100% wrong!


  90. Imichael Says:

    CHL, Al Gore put it right. Do you give someone equal air time to prove the earth is flat. Thats all Glen Peck does. Constantly trying to prove the earth is flat.


  91. bernard quatermass Says:

    “So how many of you that are bashing Glen Beck’s new book have acutally read it? Or do you just believe with blind faith that TP has acurately reported that it says what TP claims it says?”

    Yuh huh. Given GB’s penchant for moronic utterance, and TP’s penchant for at least _trying_ to find the truth, what are the chances that a book by Beck would serve as anything more than a**wipe?

    And who should I believe about global warming anyway, a media blowhard or a raft of scientists? Hmm. Let me give that as much thought as it requires.


  92. VerbalKint Says:

    Comment by cold_hard_left — November 25, 2007 @ 8:56 am

    Hey, the pussy is back. So pussy, how come you dodged my questions yesterday? Here, I will give you another bite at the apple:

    Do you think that Bush has honored conservative principles in his governance as President?

    Don’t cut and run this time. Answer the question. In the meantime I will dig up that other question you ran away from like a coward.


  93. VerbalKint Says:

    Oh yeah, pussy, here it is:

    Since you declared VICTORY! in Iraq yesterday, do you agree that we can bring the troops home? And don’t make some pussy reference to 2% of the troops this time. I’m talking about most, if not all, of them, like say, 150,000.


  94. VerbalKint Says:

    Or do you just believe with blind faith that TP has acurately reported that it says what TP claims it says?
    Comment by cold_hard_left — November 25, 2007 @ 8:56 am

    By the way, pussy, when you lie, try to not be so obvious. Like for example lying about what the blog post actually says, that two sources (Publisher’s Weekly and TVNewser, links provided) provide this description of Beck’s book. Instead you falsely stated that TP made these claims without support.


  95. one more clue Says:

    So how many of you that are bashing Glen Beck’s new book have acutally read it? Or do you just believe with blind faith that TP has acurately reported that it says what TP claims it says? (keeping in mind that this is the same TP that reported that Randi Rhodes was attacked by a right wing thug).

    Comment by cold_hard_left — November 25, 2007 @ 8:56 am

    Did you actually read the article on which you are commenting, or do you just believe with blind faith that TP has NOT accurately reported what PW says about Beck’s book? Do you have reason to believe that PUBLISHER’S WEEKLY would not, in its review of Beck’s book, offer an accurate report of what that book actually says. Since TP is not offering a critique of Beck’s book, but is, rather, reporting what PW offers in its critique of Beck’s book, if you have proof that said critique offers a false account of what Beck actually says, it is best that you take it up with Publisher’s Weekly.


  96. bilbobaggins Says:

    littlegreenfootballs.com has exposed Think Progress.
    Comment by mandolin

    Has littlegreenfootballs (whose registration is closed, btw) exposed redstate.com? They not only delete comments, they also ban the people making the comment by blocking their IP from accessing their site. And have they exposed all the conservative sites that either don’t allow comments or only allow comments through e-mail so that they can only post what they want.

    ThinkProgress was wrong to delete the posts about Sibel Edmonds (and as far as I can see, they have never apologized), but they do allow trolls to post here which is way more than any conservative website allows.


  97. bilbobaggins Says:

    From the LGF site:
    Comments are open and unmoderated, and do not necessarily reflect the views of Little Green Footballs.

    Go take a look at their “registration”. It says “closed”. Why have they closed their registration. I guess they are not “free and open to comments after all”.


  98. sdr Says:

    beck claims to be a recovered alcoholic. it would appear that the only thing he has in remission is intelligence.


  99. kasinca Says:

    beck claims to be a recovered alcoholic

    As someone who knows a little about alcoholism…I would not put my money on anything this guy says. He sounds a little balmy and alcoholics lie a bunch. Not all of them really get sober…look at Dubya.


  100. one more clue Says:

    beck claims to be a recovered alcoholic. it would appear that the only thing he has in remission is intelligence.

    Comment by sdr — November 25, 2007 @ 12:57 pm

    Having dealt with alcoholics, I can say that the fact of quitting drinking doesn’t do a thing for the underlying personality disorder. An opinionated ass remains an opinionated ass wet or dry. In fact, the drying out process sometimes causes the underlying personality disorder to be magnified. In other words, given the average ugly drunk, if you take away the drunk, the ugly remains. This seems to especially be the case when the individual comes to sobriety through evangelism. The religion seems to magnify the ugly so to speak.


  101. bernard quatermass Says:

    “The book says that some poor people are poor because they are lazy, not that all poor people are poor because they are lazy. Get the difference?”

    If true, that _is_ a difference, but for me that does not constitute enough reason to take a break from reading about mathematical logic to waste time with a “book” from someone I have plenty of evidence to consider a boor, a loudmouthed fool and a demagogue.


  102. troll buster Says:

    Comment by cold_hard_left

    Hey K-troll, would you like to explain why you posted the following sh!t? =============================================

    The troops have obviously failed. The war is lost. We should have just let Hussein have his way.

    Comment by cold_hard_left — November 15, 2007 @ 10:33 pm
    ================================================

    The troops murdered, tortured and raped innocent Muslim’s, all in support of the Bush/Cheney plan to help their oil buddies and the evil Haliburton. That is failure. The war is lost and the troops have failed.
    ================================================
    Comment by cold_hard_left — November 15, 2007 @ 11:05 pm
    Bush made us invaders/crusaders and because we support of that evil, illegitimate country called Israel. The war is lost.
    Comment by cold_hard_left — November 16, 2007 @ 3:28 pm


  103. bernard quatermass Says:

    “You should post the whole thing.”

    Oh, God. Yes. Please. We’re transfixed.


  104. muckdog Says:

    Beck is correct. Interesting lesson this Thanksgiving weekend:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ articles/ 2007/ 11/ the_tragedy_of_the_commons.html

    When the Pilgrims first settled the Plymouth Colony, they organized their farm economy along communal lines. The goal was to share everything equally, work and produce.

    They nearly all starved.

    Why? When people can get the same return with a small amount of effort as with a large amount, most people will make little effort. Plymouth settlers faked illness rather than working the common property. Some even stole, despite their Puritan convictions. Total production was too meager to support the population, and famine resulted. Some ate rats, dogs, horses and cats. This went on for two years.

    When action is divorced from consequences, no one is happy with the ultimate outcome. If individuals can take from a common pot regardless of how much they put in it, each person has an incentive to be a free rider, to do as little as possible and take as much as possible because what one fails to take will be taken by someone else. Soon, the pot is empty and will not be refilled — a bad situation even for the earlier takers.

    I bolded the part that sounds like your typical government worker. That is liberalism in a nutshell.


  105. bernard quatermass Says:

    “I think I posted a slightly longer version later the same day. The funny part was how many Socialist/Liberals chimed in to agree with all or part of it.”

    Oh yes. My god, you really _are_ a riot!


  106. dbadass Says:

    They nearly starved because they settled upon the shittiest piece of real estate in the neighborhood. That is exactly why the natives didn’t give a shit. Nice try but I call totoal bullshit on your attempt to make this obtuse and shallow try to link your worldview with historical events.

    Please describe the government employee you envision or are you opposed to government employees? Anarchy is hardly a rightie/conservative stance. Why do you hate your government employees?


  107. raw Says:

    Hmm .. I’ve not read the book, but did the report really report correcty. Certainly I’d think it’s uncontroversial that, on average, lazy people are more poor than non-lazy people. Are any of these controversial?

    - Some people are more lazy than others.
    - Lazy people, on average, earn less money than non-lazy people.
    - Lazy people will be over-represented among poor people.

    Am I wrong?

    Cheers,
    –raw


  108. Namtillaku Says:

    Fat people are stupid.


  109. dbadass Says:

    WASPS wear lame ass Land’s End pastel clothes and sissy boat shoes.


  110. tw111 Says:

    Interesting that left-leaning ‘progressives’ suddenly become incoherent when discussing Republicans or conservatives and resort to name calling… ‘ Republiscum’, etc.
    Not terribly creative.


  111. Frosty Cupcake Says:

    Yeah, whatever #120.


  112. tw111 Says:

    Thanks for helping make my point, Frosty.


  113. BlackbirdHighway Says:

    Uh, Beck, why in the hell would I care what he wrote in his book, except maybe that it’s yet another thing I can be thankful for?

    I’m thankful that I don’t have to watch his show,
    I’m thankful that I don’t have to read his book,
    I’m thankful that I don’t have to watch his network.

    I just wish I could be thankful that I don’t have to read about him on any otherwise worthwhile Internet sites.


  114. Evergreen2U Says:

    I agree with #123 why pass on this garbage?

    It is obvious to all of us that some of the poorest people we know are the least lazy…

    And in the main wealth is more often correlated to:

    1) who your parents are/were
    or
    2) To what degree you are willing to feed off of or take advantage of others.

    Capitalism run amuck and uncehecked (without conscience or morality or grandchildren, feeds off others and infiltrates governments). It is the new age gloved tyranny that will keep us sitting dumbed down in front of our TVs, or working at our little desks being unproductive or buying new little techno toys…. until the golden goose of life as we know it is sucked dry.


  115. Frosty Cupcake Says:

    Cry me a river, #122.


  116. donmyers Says:

    I seldom give these people any attention. I believe that these guys always go for the phrase that will get them ratings. They don’t believe any of it! If one said “Bush came back from Camp David high from coke” one would get attention. Of course you can’t prove it; that doesn’t matter. CNN and Fox have set such low standards that any tom, dick, or jane can meet them. The best thing that has happened to our media is that these blogs allow checking sources through links etc. One kind find out whether a statement is BS or factual.
    Beck, O’Reilly, Coulter and others throw out anything. It is like flashing - it gets attention even from the people who don’t like it. It really is up to the medium carrying the message to sort out the garbage before putting it on for public exposure. Fox News - I quit them several years ago - CNN- I haven’t watched in three years. And NBC (other than an occasional Olbermann), CBS, and ABC can’t be trusted. I like PBS but in last year it has shifted to the right. But Frontline, Nova, and Lehrer provide news for the people. If I really want some depth I go where I’m at now - internet.


  117. bernarda Says:

    Glenn Beck has made being stupid a profession. This is a guy whose credentials are going straight from high school to being a disc jockey.

    No education. No knowledge. No expertise. No nothing.

    For stupid, how stupid do you have to be to CONVERT to Mormonism? Someone raised in a mormon family at least has an excuse.

    As a mormon, here is what Glenn Beck believes on youtube:

    mormon beliefs


  118. chris allen Says:

    Hey is this the place to go if you have no common sense? Do you really have to look through a whole book to find something to cry and whine about because you love propaganda and you believe that child rapists should be adored? I am sick of morons like you guys that hate people due to their political opinions. I do not agree with everything glenn beck says, or john stewart or etc… but I do not look down upon them for thinking different from me. I am a teacher and I see self rightous idiocies in a lot of my students. I do not bother them with political agendas but I do ask them to not be closed minded. If you do agree with the opinions in Becks book, then look at the truths and make up your mind. Otherwise you can go to hell!!! Not really but open your eyes and your mind…… for everyones sake.



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