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	<title>Comments on: U.S. lowers bar for political success in Iraq.</title>
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		<title>By: DallasNE</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/24/us-lowers-bar-for-political-success-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4165261</link>
		<dc:creator>DallasNE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Current position=Goal=Success=Victory(almost)

Comment by Clumberfeet â€” November 25, 2007 @ 12:00 pm&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That boils it down. Mission accomplished. Time to go looking for some more victories.

Funny thing but Congress mandated that the Bush administration provide testimony covering 18 benchmarks as a requirement of the legislation funding the surge. Partial success on 3 of those hardly satisfies the mandate of the legislation. As I recall, the last time the benchmarks were addressed they testified that there was partial success on 4 of them. This means that with the surge we are seeing less &quot;progress&quot; toward the benchmarks than before.</description>
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<p>Comment by Clumberfeet â€” November 25, 2007 @ 12:00 pm</p></blockquote>
<p>That boils it down. Mission accomplished. Time to go looking for some more victories.</p>
<p>Funny thing but Congress mandated that the Bush administration provide testimony covering 18 benchmarks as a requirement of the legislation funding the surge. Partial success on 3 of those hardly satisfies the mandate of the legislation. As I recall, the last time the benchmarks were addressed they testified that there was partial success on 4 of them. This means that with the surge we are seeing less &#8220;progress&#8221; toward the benchmarks than before.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4165261', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: osage</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/24/us-lowers-bar-for-political-success-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4165149</link>
		<dc:creator>osage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lowering the political bar AFTER his innumerable policy failures is a clear admission that the deaths and suffering of so many innocent human beings was senseless and futile.  The point of human sacrifice in Iraq was to gain political stability.  Wouldn&#039;t it have been great if Bush had raised the bar on the value of human life BEFORE so many people had died as a direct result of HIS political failures?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lowering the political bar AFTER his innumerable policy failures is a clear admission that the deaths and suffering of so many innocent human beings was senseless and futile.  The point of human sacrifice in Iraq was to gain political stability.  Wouldn&#8217;t it have been great if Bush had raised the bar on the value of human life BEFORE so many people had died as a direct result of HIS political failures?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4165149', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ralph the wonder llama</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/24/us-lowers-bar-for-political-success-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4165097</link>
		<dc:creator>ralph the wonder llama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Lowering the bar&quot; is an art form for the Bush Administration. It&#039;s the only way GWB has ever achieved anything. He discovered early on the magic of lowered expectations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lowering the bar&#8221; is an art form for the Bush Administration. It&#8217;s the only way GWB has ever achieved anything. He discovered early on the magic of lowered expectations.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4165097', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: kirkaracha</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/24/us-lowers-bar-for-political-success-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4165081</link>
		<dc:creator>kirkaracha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President Bush &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/iraq_strategy_nov2005.html#part1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;defined victory in Iraq&lt;/a&gt; as:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

  &lt;em&gt;In the short term:&lt;/em&gt;
    
      An Iraq that is making steady progress in fighting terrorists and neutralizing the insurgency, meeting political milestones; building democratic institutions; standing up robust security forces to gather intelligence, destroy terrorist networks, and maintain security; and tackling key economic reforms to lay the foundation for a sound economy.
    
  
  &lt;em&gt;In the medium term:&lt;/em&gt;
    
      An Iraq that is in the lead defeating terrorists and insurgents and providing its own security, with a constitutional, elected government in place, providing an inspiring example to reformers in the region, and well on its way to achieving its economic potential.
    
  
  &lt;em&gt;In the longer term:&lt;/em&gt;
    
      An Iraq that has defeated the terrorists and neutralized the insurgency.
      An Iraq that is peaceful, united, stable, democratic, and secure, where Iraqis have the institutions and resources they need to govern themselves justly and provide security for their country.
      An Iraq that is a partner in the global war on terror and the fight against the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, integrated into the international community, an engine for regional economic growth, and proving the fruits of democratic governance to the region.
    
  
&lt;/blockquote&gt;By lowering the bar, aren&#039;t we admitting defeat?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Bush <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/iraq_strategy_nov2005.html#part1" rel="nofollow">defined victory in Iraq</a> as:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>  <em>In the short term:</em></p>
<p>      An Iraq that is making steady progress in fighting terrorists and neutralizing the insurgency, meeting political milestones; building democratic institutions; standing up robust security forces to gather intelligence, destroy terrorist networks, and maintain security; and tackling key economic reforms to lay the foundation for a sound economy.</p>
<p>  <em>In the medium term:</em></p>
<p>      An Iraq that is in the lead defeating terrorists and insurgents and providing its own security, with a constitutional, elected government in place, providing an inspiring example to reformers in the region, and well on its way to achieving its economic potential.</p>
<p>  <em>In the longer term:</em></p>
<p>      An Iraq that has defeated the terrorists and neutralized the insurgency.<br />
      An Iraq that is peaceful, united, stable, democratic, and secure, where Iraqis have the institutions and resources they need to govern themselves justly and provide security for their country.<br />
      An Iraq that is a partner in the global war on terror and the fight against the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, integrated into the international community, an engine for regional economic growth, and proving the fruits of democratic governance to the region.</p>
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<p>By lowering the bar, aren&#8217;t we admitting defeat?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4165081', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here, goal post, come here, be a good little goal post!

Here goal post, come to Bushie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, goal post, come here, be a good little goal post!</p>
<p>Here goal post, come to Bushie!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4165080', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Davis X. Machina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davis X. Machina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;These clowns donâ€™t have a plan, and never did. They are feckless boobs.&lt;/i&gt;

They&#039;ve got a plan. The plan is a weak and compliant puppet regime, but not in Iraq.

The Iraq escapade is, take your pick, either the world&#039;s most expensive campaign commercial, or a second American civil-war-by-proxy.

It is a war about what &lt;em&gt;this&lt;/em&gt; country is, and means, and does.

Eliminating effective, organized domestic opposition in this country to the Glorious Revolution -- not oil &lt;em&gt;per se&lt;/em&gt;, not democracy, not WMD&#039;s, not human rights, not even revenge for 9/11 -- was the goal of the operation.

The opportunity to write the tax code, craft the regulatory environment, determine fiscal and monetary policy, and appoint the judges in this country deep into the new century would be worth nearly any expenditure of blood and treasure. The ability to deploy the vastly increased police powers of the unitary executive against opponents could make such a victory permanent.

A smart criminal buys out a security firm, or suborns the accountants.

A &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; smart criminal doesn&#039;t rob banks, he simply writes larceny out of the statute books, or repeals the statute of fraud.

Cheney and company sought an opportunity to to do a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_federal_election,_1993#Progressive_Conservatives_2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mulroney&lt;/a&gt; on the Democratic party, and they needed a war to do it.&lt;em&gt; A&lt;/em&gt; war was necessary -- this &lt;em&gt;particular&lt;/em&gt; war was convenient.

It might still work. The Democrats don&#039;t seem to be interested in stopping the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>These clowns donâ€™t have a plan, and never did. They are feckless boobs.</i></p>
<p>They&#8217;ve got a plan. The plan is a weak and compliant puppet regime, but not in Iraq.</p>
<p>The Iraq escapade is, take your pick, either the world&#8217;s most expensive campaign commercial, or a second American civil-war-by-proxy.</p>
<p>It is a war about what <em>this</em> country is, and means, and does.</p>
<p>Eliminating effective, organized domestic opposition in this country to the Glorious Revolution &#8212; not oil <em>per se</em>, not democracy, not WMD&#8217;s, not human rights, not even revenge for 9/11 &#8212; was the goal of the operation.</p>
<p>The opportunity to write the tax code, craft the regulatory environment, determine fiscal and monetary policy, and appoint the judges in this country deep into the new century would be worth nearly any expenditure of blood and treasure. The ability to deploy the vastly increased police powers of the unitary executive against opponents could make such a victory permanent.</p>
<p>A smart criminal buys out a security firm, or suborns the accountants.</p>
<p>A <em>really</em> smart criminal doesn&#8217;t rob banks, he simply writes larceny out of the statute books, or repeals the statute of fraud.</p>
<p>Cheney and company sought an opportunity to to do a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_federal_election,_1993#Progressive_Conservatives_2" rel="nofollow">Mulroney</a> on the Democratic party, and they needed a war to do it.<em> A</em> war was necessary &#8212; this <em>particular</em> war was convenient.</p>
<p>It might still work. The Democrats don&#8217;t seem to be interested in stopping the process.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4165071', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Clumberfeet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clumberfeet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;U.S. lowers bar for political success in Iraq&quot;
Again?
&quot;U.S. lowers bar for political success in Afganistan&quot;
Again?

Current position=Goal=Success=Victory(almost)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;U.S. lowers bar for political success in Iraq&#8221;<br />
Again?<br />
&#8220;U.S. lowers bar for political success in Afganistan&#8221;<br />
Again?</p>
<p>Current position=Goal=Success=Victory(almost)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4165060', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bilbobaggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>bilbobaggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason why the US influence over the Iraqi government has declined is because the people in the Iraqi government (you know, the people we put there as our puppets) are corrupt to the core and are making big bucks off of their corruption.  If there was any kind of reconciliation, they would have to give up their payoffs and other forms of corruption. 

It&#039;s time for the US government to say &quot;mission accomplished&quot; and come home.  That way Bush can, in his fantasy world, think that he did something that was a success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why the US influence over the Iraqi government has declined is because the people in the Iraqi government (you know, the people we put there as our puppets) are corrupt to the core and are making big bucks off of their corruption.  If there was any kind of reconciliation, they would have to give up their payoffs and other forms of corruption. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s time for the US government to say &#8220;mission accomplished&#8221; and come home.  That way Bush can, in his fantasy world, think that he did something that was a success.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4165052', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Veritas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veritas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that&#039;s precisely why his neocon/fascist buddies are all foisting responsibility for this nightmare in Iraq back on Bush&#039;s shoulders.  They&#039;re attempting to parse words by stating that the &quot;attack&quot; was successful but the &quot;occupation&quot; is a disaster. Richard Perle et al are attempting to divide the War into two separate and distinct segments which are indivisible of each other.  Nice try, though, Neonazis!  This WAR belongs to GWB, the GOP, and the Neocons exclusively.  

You never enter into a war unless it&#039;s a last alternative.  You never enter into a war without a well-constructed plan for the initial attack as well as the continued occupation. 

In Bush&#039;s world, he tabulates the cost of the war and eliminates the cost of caring for our war disabled - accounting doesn&#039;t work that way and neither does war planning.

This is BUSH&#039;S BLOOD FOR OIL WAR  and it will go down in history as being a total and unequivocal disaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that&#8217;s precisely why his neocon/fascist buddies are all foisting responsibility for this nightmare in Iraq back on Bush&#8217;s shoulders.  They&#8217;re attempting to parse words by stating that the &#8220;attack&#8221; was successful but the &#8220;occupation&#8221; is a disaster. Richard Perle et al are attempting to divide the War into two separate and distinct segments which are indivisible of each other.  Nice try, though, Neonazis!  This WAR belongs to GWB, the GOP, and the Neocons exclusively.  </p>
<p>You never enter into a war unless it&#8217;s a last alternative.  You never enter into a war without a well-constructed plan for the initial attack as well as the continued occupation. </p>
<p>In Bush&#8217;s world, he tabulates the cost of the war and eliminates the cost of caring for our war disabled &#8211; accounting doesn&#8217;t work that way and neither does war planning.</p>
<p>This is BUSH&#8217;S BLOOD FOR OIL WAR  and it will go down in history as being a total and unequivocal disaster.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4165043', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Veritas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veritas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tarazan:  To suggest that there ever was a &quot;bar&quot; for judging political success is to imply that there ever was a thoughtful &quot;plan&quot; at the outset.  Bush appears to be incapable of anything even remotely resembling sound judgment and critical thought process so this headline becomes a moot point.  There never was a bar because there never was a plan; without a plan, there never was a real &quot;enemy&quot; ever identified nor a war &quot;objective&quot;.

That&#039;s precisely why this &quot;highly illegal invasion&quot; of a soverign country will haunt GWB for the rest of his natural life and well into his spiritual life.  I certainly wouldn&#039;t want to inhabit his body habitus or soul, that&#039;s certain!  And, if there is such a thing (and we know that there is) as &quot;karma&quot;, yikes!!  The karmic debt which the Bush Family inherits will poison this genetic line for decades to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tarazan:  To suggest that there ever was a &#8220;bar&#8221; for judging political success is to imply that there ever was a thoughtful &#8220;plan&#8221; at the outset.  Bush appears to be incapable of anything even remotely resembling sound judgment and critical thought process so this headline becomes a moot point.  There never was a bar because there never was a plan; without a plan, there never was a real &#8220;enemy&#8221; ever identified nor a war &#8220;objective&#8221;.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s precisely why this &#8220;highly illegal invasion&#8221; of a soverign country will haunt GWB for the rest of his natural life and well into his spiritual life.  I certainly wouldn&#8217;t want to inhabit his body habitus or soul, that&#8217;s certain!  And, if there is such a thing (and we know that there is) as &#8220;karma&#8221;, yikes!!  The karmic debt which the Bush Family inherits will poison this genetic line for decades to come.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4165042', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tarazan</title>
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		<dc:creator>tarazan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[.....US lowers bar for political success in Iraq..].     Was there a bar to begin with ?!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[.....US lowers bar for political success in Iraq..].     Was there a bar to begin with ?!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4165036', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Jesus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chocolate Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 10:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;There have been signs that American 
&gt;influence over Iraqi politics is dwindling

because in Iraq, the almighty Dollah doesnt carry as much weight as the almighty Allah, which these buggers can&#039;t seem to agree about..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;There have been signs that American<br />
&gt;influence over Iraqi politics is dwindling</p>
<p>because in Iraq, the almighty Dollah doesnt carry as much weight as the almighty Allah, which these buggers can&#8217;t seem to agree about..<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4165024', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Jesus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chocolate Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 10:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bacon, darn good link, its what ive been saying all along, I emailed it to TP hopefully they will make that one its own thread...this myopic adiministration and its supporters are unable to fathom that power is gained and lost by means other than physical force..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bacon, darn good link, its what ive been saying all along, I emailed it to TP hopefully they will make that one its own thread&#8230;this myopic adiministration and its supporters are unable to fathom that power is gained and lost by means other than physical force..<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4165023', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MiMiCcs</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/24/us-lowers-bar-for-political-success-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4164992</link>
		<dc:creator>MiMiCcs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 06:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush does not want quick reconciliation, this would mean a quick withdrawal of US troops would be called for.   Accomodation is just a buzzword for &quot;staying the course&quot;,  since it will only last as long as we have our troops there, so the argument will go.   

In other words, accomodation is preferred to reconciliation since it is the justification needed for keeping US troops in Iraq for decades.   It&#039;s  an old tactic called &quot;Divide and Rule&quot;.   Keep them divided in a state of permanent accomodation short of reconciliation,  where your presence is required to keep them from fighting each other, or reconciling with each other. This allows you to occupy them and loot their land for as long as the suckers buy into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush does not want quick reconciliation, this would mean a quick withdrawal of US troops would be called for.   Accomodation is just a buzzword for &#8220;staying the course&#8221;,  since it will only last as long as we have our troops there, so the argument will go.   </p>
<p>In other words, accomodation is preferred to reconciliation since it is the justification needed for keeping US troops in Iraq for decades.   It&#8217;s  an old tactic called &#8220;Divide and Rule&#8221;.   Keep them divided in a state of permanent accomodation short of reconciliation,  where your presence is required to keep them from fighting each other, or reconciling with each other. This allows you to occupy them and loot their land for as long as the suckers buy into it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4164992', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Don Bacon</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/24/us-lowers-bar-for-political-success-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4164984</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Bacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 06:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember the purple fingers? The noble cause that so many have died and sacrificed for? According to the US State Dept.:  &lt;b&gt;Shiite-Led Government Larger Threat than al-Qaida:&lt;/b&gt;

report: Senior military commanders now portray the intransigence of Iraq&#039;s Shiite dominated government as the key threat facing the U.S. effort in Iraq, rather than al-Qaida terrorists, Sunni insurgents or Iranian-backed militias. Several U.S. military officials have expressed growing concern over the Iraqi government&#039;s failure to capitalize on sharp declines in attacks against U.S. troops and Iraqi civilians. A window of opportunity has opened for the government to reach out to its former foes, said Army Lt. Gen. Raymond T. Odierno, the commander of day-to-day U.S. military operations in Iraq, but &quot;it&#039;s unclear how long that window is going to be open.&quot;

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/95643.pdf   (p.9)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember the purple fingers? The noble cause that so many have died and sacrificed for? According to the US State Dept.:  <b>Shiite-Led Government Larger Threat than al-Qaida:</b></p>
<p>report: Senior military commanders now portray the intransigence of Iraq&#8217;s Shiite dominated government as the key threat facing the U.S. effort in Iraq, rather than al-Qaida terrorists, Sunni insurgents or Iranian-backed militias. Several U.S. military officials have expressed growing concern over the Iraqi government&#8217;s failure to capitalize on sharp declines in attacks against U.S. troops and Iraqi civilians. A window of opportunity has opened for the government to reach out to its former foes, said Army Lt. Gen. Raymond T. Odierno, the commander of day-to-day U.S. military operations in Iraq, but &#8220;it&#8217;s unclear how long that window is going to be open.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/95643.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/95643.pdf</a>   (p.9)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4164984', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DallasNE</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/24/us-lowers-bar-for-political-success-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4164939</link>
		<dc:creator>DallasNE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lowering the bar to only include the 3 items where some progress has been made sounds about right for the Bush administration. The other 15 didn&#039;t mean anything after all to the Bush administration.

But didn&#039;t the law Bush signed spell out the benchmarks. How about holding Bush accountable for the whole package? Does Congress really have no say in this?

The idiocy continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lowering the bar to only include the 3 items where some progress has been made sounds about right for the Bush administration. The other 15 didn&#8217;t mean anything after all to the Bush administration.</p>
<p>But didn&#8217;t the law Bush signed spell out the benchmarks. How about holding Bush accountable for the whole package? Does Congress really have no say in this?</p>
<p>The idiocy continues.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4164939', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/24/us-lowers-bar-for-political-success-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4164929</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How low well Bush go until he reaches the bottom.  Yes when it is seen as a complete lost the White House will have their paid Journalist report that it was Bill Clinton&#039;s fault.  Yes for the past 7 years all of the GOP and White House failures have been blamed on 
Bill Clinton.  What&#039;s funny is the American people buy that story hook line and sinker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How low well Bush go until he reaches the bottom.  Yes when it is seen as a complete lost the White House will have their paid Journalist report that it was Bill Clinton&#8217;s fault.  Yes for the past 7 years all of the GOP and White House failures have been blamed on<br />
Bill Clinton.  What&#8217;s funny is the American people buy that story hook line and sinker.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4164929', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/24/us-lowers-bar-for-political-success-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4164918</link>
		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;reconciliation&#039;, &#039;accomodation&#039;, how about they just don&#039;t kill each other in the parliamentary meeting room?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;reconciliation&#8217;, &#8216;accomodation&#8217;, how about they just don&#8217;t kill each other in the parliamentary meeting room?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4164918', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: had enough</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/24/us-lowers-bar-for-political-success-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4164915</link>
		<dc:creator>had enough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last I heard, Iraq was not going to sign that hideous oil deal....
This whole event from WMD to the change of reasons why we massacred that innocent country, to the &lt;em&gt;surge is working&lt;/em&gt; are total lies to keep the public distracted while our treasury is robbed and MIC makes a ton of money.  Some fools still talk up the surge as if there is a ray of hope all will be over.  Don&#039;t they get it?  Just another lie con job keeping the masses distracted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last I heard, Iraq was not going to sign that hideous oil deal&#8230;.<br />
This whole event from WMD to the change of reasons why we massacred that innocent country, to the <em>surge is working</em> are total lies to keep the public distracted while our treasury is robbed and MIC makes a ton of money.  Some fools still talk up the surge as if there is a ray of hope all will be over.  Don&#8217;t they get it?  Just another lie con job keeping the masses distracted.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4164915', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Above the Clouds</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/24/us-lowers-bar-for-political-success-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4164913</link>
		<dc:creator>Above the Clouds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 03:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iraq = Neocon failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iraq = Neocon failure.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4164913', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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