Fred Thompson Attacks Fox News
This morning on Fox News Sunday, Republican presidential candidate Sen. Fred Thompson (R-TN) charged “that Fox News is biased against his campaign, charging that the network highlights commentators who have been critical of his run for the presidency.”
After Fox aired clips of Fred Barnes and Charles Krauthammer attacking Thompson’s candidacy, Thompson responded, “This has been a constant mantra of Fox, to tell you the truth.” “I don’t know that Fox has been going after you,” host Chris Wallace asserted. Thompson told Wallace, “You have the right to put in your one side, and put in the Fox side, and I have the right to respond to it.”
Watch it:
Fox News has been accused of having a bias in favor of presidential contender Rudy Giuliani, particularly in the wake of allegations by former book publisher Judith Regan, who claimed NewsCorp wanted to protect Giuliani’s presidential aspirations.
Transcript:
WALLACE: Well, can I just — may I just finish my question? Then you can say what you want. It’s not just the numbers. I want to show you what two conservative commentators had to say about your campaign this week. Here it is.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
FRED BARNES, WEEKLY STANDARD: It’s the wrong message and a weak messenger. Other than those two things, it’s a great campaign.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, COLUMNIST: Thompson offers the folksy manner of a consistent conservative, but there’s not anything there. And in the absence of something, he can’t win.
(END VIDEO CLIP) WALLACE: Senator, I suspect you’ve gotten a few bad reviews for movies or T.V. shows in the past, but that’s pretty tough stuff. How do you respond?
THOMPSON: Yes. It’s a lot of the same kind of stuff that I heard when I first ran for office, when I was 20 points down. And fortunately, I wound up 20 points ahead on election night.
This has been a constant mantra of Fox, to tell you the truth. And I saw the promo for this bill, and I think it was kind of — for this show, and it was kind of featuring the New Hampshire poll.
Let’s put things in context a little bit, to start with.
WALLACE: Well, I don’t know that —- I mean, I don’t know that Fox has been going after you, and I certainly don’t think Charles Krauthammer and Fred Barnes…
THOMPSON: From day one, they said I got in too late, I couldn’t do it.
WALLACE: But there were a lot of people besides Fox who said that, sir.
THOMPSON: Well, but I’m — these are the two you used.
WALLACE: Right.
THOMPSON: All right. Well, they said I got in too late, couldn’t do it…
WALLACE: Right.
THOMPSON: … wouldn’t raise enough money, and that sort of thing. And that’s their opinion. They’re entitled to their opinion.
But that doesn’t seem to be shared by the cross-section of American people. If you look at the national polls, you’ll see that I’m running second and have been running second for a long time.
I’m running ahead of a guy who spent probably $50 million more than I have and been running for a year longer. If you look in South Carolina, I’ve either been leading or tied for the lead for a long, long time. I moved from fourth to third in Iowa, ahead of Rudy Giuliani, incidentally.
So you know, they’re entitled to their opinion, but for you to highlight nothing but the negative in terms of these polls, and then put on your own guys, who have been predicting for four months, really, that I couldn’t do it, you know, kind of skews things a little bit.
There’s a lot of other opinion out there. National Review that I…
WALLACE: Do you know anybody who thinks you’ve run a great campaign, sir?
THOMPSON: It’s not for me to come here and try to convince you that somebody else thinks that I’ve run a great campaign.
WALLACE: Well, but that’s why I…
THOMPSON: I’m talking about — no, let me ask you…
WALLACE: … I’m just asking you the question.
THOMPSON: … you know, you mentioned conservatives. Would you say National Review was a conservative magazine and a conservative…
WALLACE: As are Fred Barnes and Charles Krauthammer.
THOMPSON: They said that — well, that just goes to show you there’s more than one opinion.
WALLACE: Absolutely.
THOMPSON: You’re showing one. I’m giving you the other.
WALLACE: Well, I’m asking you for the other. That’s the point.
THOMPSON: Well, I’ll give you an answer. They said that I had set the standard for policy in this campaign.
They pointed out that I had laid out all these policy positions as far as immigration is concerned, as far as the military was concerned, the only policy position in Social Security, and others, and said they wish the other candidates would do half as well as I have.
Investors Business Daily has pointed out that I have the solution on the Social Security plan that no one else has put forth that will solve a major financial problem that we’re going to have in this country.
And as I go around the country, I get that kind of reaction. Now, other than opinion, which — everybody’s got one, the only thing I know to look at is the polls.
And if you get past New Hampshire and look at some of these other states — states that I’m leading in in the south, for example — and straw polls that I’ve won, endorsements that I’ve got — I’ve got more endorsements in the state of Georgia than all the other candidates put together.
So I understand the game of build-up and I understand the game of take-down. And we all go through it. And I’m perfectly willing for you to do that with regard to me as you do the other candidates.
WALLACE: I was going to say, Senator…
THOMPSON: But you have the right to put in your one side, and put in the Fox side, and I have the right to respond to it. And thankfully, you’ve given me that opportunity.
WALLACE: I was going to say, Senator, I’m glad I asked the question, because I got a heck of an answer.
Thank you for coming on. Thanks for talking with us.
THOMPSON: Thank you. Appreciate it.
WALLACE: Please come back, sir.
THOMPSON: Thank you very much.
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Wow Freddie, you really cooked your goose on that one. Do you think that criticizing Faux Noise is going to get them to pay positive attention to you or help your campaign. But, it is nice to see someone other than progressives recognize the fact that Faux Noise is an agenda-driven organization.
November 25th, 2007 at 11:53 amFox has a bias?!!! Well what do you know! Clever of Mr. Thompson to notice.
November 25th, 2007 at 11:56 amI noticed this exchange while watching this morning. I’m glad to see TP caught it too.
November 25th, 2007 at 11:59 amFox Snooze hates democracy.
-GSD
November 25th, 2007 at 12:05 pmAh, I love the smell of Republicans attacking FoxNews in the morning.
November 25th, 2007 at 12:15 pmThis is classic FOX fair and balanced news reporting.
November 25th, 2007 at 12:27 pmAttack all the Democrats and the Republicans the corporation is not backing.
Fox Noise has chosen Rudy. For those republicans who like their news completely agenda driven — this is what you get. A network that campaigns for their chosen candidate. Too bad if the candidate is a total loser like GWB or Rudy. Who cares if Fox helps destroy the country, right?
November 25th, 2007 at 12:29 pmTP once again with the obvious.
who cares about fox news, who cares about grandpa fred, who cares about republicans and their race. lets focus on thinking progressively and worry about the damage they, the republicans, have caused our world and think about how to fix it. who cares if they start eating their own. Although it makes our job easier, a headline on one of the most important blogs is wasted.
who cares
November 25th, 2007 at 12:29 pmwho cares
Comment by espo — November 25, 2007 @ 12:29 pm
Is there a shortage of headlines? Will TP run out at the wrong moment?
I know, let’s just ignore the Republicans entirely. Think of all the headlines we’ll save!
November 25th, 2007 at 12:35 pmwho cares
Comment by espo
I care. Who appointed you the arbitrator of what is posted on this site? I smell another RNC rat posing as a “progressive”. We’ll wait and see.
November 25th, 2007 at 12:38 pmFreddie Krueger/Thompson has a real thin skin. As time goes on and the media starts publicizing the gibberish that emanates from his vocal cords it should get REAL interesting.
November 25th, 2007 at 12:39 pmAn “us” v “them” approach hardly seems progressive. Seems more like maintainence of the norm
November 25th, 2007 at 12:39 pmwho cares
Comment by espo — November 25, 2007 @ 12:29 pm
Couldn’t have said it better..PRAVDA IS ALIVE!!! HERE!!!
November 25th, 2007 at 12:47 pmI could live with a “real” right vs. left bias. But, FU News has deemed anything “left” of Rupert Murdoch as “the far left”. Furthermore they have a, well documented, habit of pushing specific candidates. Anything that sheds light on this is a good thing in my book.
November 25th, 2007 at 12:48 pmFOX is State Sponsored TV.
What they do is illegal.
Carl Levin was today’s FOX Democrat.
It’s always good to see Righties eating another one of their own.
November 25th, 2007 at 12:53 pmI smell another RNC rat posing as a “progressiveâ€. We’ll wait and see.
Comment by bilbobaggins — November 25, 2007 @ 12:38 pm
You are correct!
wow TP sucks these past days, whats up here?
Comment by espo— June 29, 2007 @ 5:02 pm
November 25th, 2007 at 12:55 pmComment by espo— June 29, 2007 @ 5:02 pm
Yet another one of Pee brain’s lieutenants - Espo!
Face it Pee brain, you’re forever banned!
November 25th, 2007 at 12:59 pmFox News is fair and balanced. I will not have that, Mr. Thompson!
November 25th, 2007 at 1:00 pmFred Thompson is dumb, fat, and unfortunately rich!
He even seems worse than Raygun!
November 25th, 2007 at 1:00 pmSo now Fox has an anti-conservative bias?
Comment by cold_hard_left — November 25, 2007 @ 12:56 pm
Reading (and listening, apparently) comprehension isn’t a strong point with you, is it?
November 25th, 2007 at 1:02 pmI care. It is essential that we continue to drive home the point that Faux News is nothing more than a 24/7 infomercial for the far right. You bet it is important for this type of story, because it will allow a few more republicans to see the Faux News slant. See this site for more info http://foxattacks.com/videos
November 25th, 2007 at 1:02 pmAnyone interested in some telling Thompson video from his first week on the trail in SC and an accompanying column should try:
November 25th, 2007 at 1:05 pmhttp://goupstate.us/ index.php/ lanefiller/ 2007/ 11/ 05/ fred_thompson_for_president_of_what_the_
So now Fox has an anti-conservative bias?
Comment by cold_hard_left — November 25, 2007 @ 12:56 pm
If this is the message you got out of that transcript, you’re even stupider than you pretend to be.
Leave it to simplistic trolls to embrace the simplest skewed interpretation of any statement and then pretend that it’s what progressives actually say.
November 25th, 2007 at 1:10 pmFox is gunning for Fred and anyone who isn’t Rudy. But Fred has given them plenty of ammunition.
November 25th, 2007 at 1:15 pmComment by ralph the wonder llama
Give the troll a break, you don’t really believe he took the time to read the whole post. He is much too busy to read anything but the headline.
November 25th, 2007 at 1:16 pmReich-wingers eating their own….pull up a chair and get a bowl of popcorn, this is always entertaining.
November 25th, 2007 at 1:23 pmI care. I believe it is important to make it perfectly clear that Fox “News” is actually the mouthpiece for a small clique of the very wealthy, and that Fox’s political “analysis” and commentary are attempts at selling policies that primarily benefit these people.
It is also important to show to what extent Murdoch influences the decision-making process on what stories to carry, and how they are carried, likely to further his own personal interests, financial or otherwise.
November 25th, 2007 at 1:34 pmIt just seems odd that some people are still struggling to understand the point of the story.
November 25th, 2007 at 1:35 pmIt just seems odd that you can call Fox “a 24/7 infomercial for the far right†when Fred Thompson is more conservative than Rudy will ever be.
Comment by cold_hard_left — November 25, 2007 @ 1:31 pm
Sure you do. Except that comment was made AFTER your stupid remark.
November 25th, 2007 at 1:37 pmyep, im a RNC rat posing as a “progressive†the genius patrol has caught me again. … So, we need to keep telling ourselves faux news is republican propaganda, and thats not a waste. how sad. no wonder the war is still raging in iraq, people are losing their healthcare in greater numbers, the ice caps are melting and all the ‘progressives’ care about is what fred thompson says about fox news. if you want to berate me for that then so be it. i know what is important and fred thompson is not it. TP continuously posts stupid blogs lately. how many soldiers have died this past week? where is the blog for them?
November 25th, 2007 at 1:38 pmbet you all cant wait for britney’s next dui arrest!
hey troll buster, why not post ALL of my comments, or do you only follow republican playbook rules when attacking others, i.e. cherry-picking out of context….
November 25th, 2007 at 1:42 pmall the ‘progressives’ care about is what fred thompson says about fox news… bet you all cant wait for britney’s next dui arrest!
Comment by espo — November 25, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
I was under the impression that TP covered stories other than Frederick of Hollywood berating Faux News… my mistake. Apparently, that’s all the “progressives” care about…
Oh, and when was the last “britney” story posted on TP?
You’re proving your troll credentials with each post.
November 25th, 2007 at 1:42 pmFaux news is backing Rudy. Anyone can see that. Fred needs to go back to doing what he did best….The DA on Law and Order. Go back to the fantasy world. Fred (although being a guest on Faux must be a real nightmare…yuk!)
November 25th, 2007 at 1:45 pmComment by cold_hard_left
Hey K-troll, would you like to explain why you posted the following sh!t?
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The troops have obviously failed. The war is lost. We should have just let Hussein have his way.
Comment by cold_hard_left — November 15, 2007 @ 10:33 pm
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The troops murdered, tortured and raped innocent Muslim’s, all in support of the Bush/Cheney plan to help their oil buddies and the evil Haliburton. That is failure. The war is lost and the troops have failed.
November 25th, 2007 at 1:46 pm================================================
Comment by cold_hard_left — November 15, 2007 @ 11:05 pm
Bush made us invaders/crusaders and because we support of that evil, illegitimate country called Israel. The war is lost.
Comment by cold_hard_left — November 16, 2007 @ 3:28 pm
Oh, and when was the last “britney†story posted on TP?
You’re proving your troll credentials with each post.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama —
…June 7, 2007
……May 30, 2007 11:20 am
….April 27, 2007 12:28 pm
(obviously you wouldn’t know a troll if it hit you in the face)
November 25th, 2007 at 1:49 pmThe very IDEA that a news outlet would support ANY politician is the height of disbelief.
But here we have FOX, supporting Republican candidates, everyday 24 hours a day.
It’s illegal.
November 25th, 2007 at 1:52 pmComment by cold_hard_left
I aggree with most of what your saying
The troops that have to kill innocent people , torture them and then rape their children have failed - GOOD POINT
Yes it would be better Saddam was in power still 1.2 million Iraqis would be still alive and 2 million Iraqis would still have legs
And yes Bush has made a fool of America
Cannot see anything wrong with the post by cold_hard_left post _
UNLESS YOU BELEIVE IN AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM
which only the stupid do
November 25th, 2007 at 1:53 pm“Sure TB. That was a part of my overall summary of the teachings of the Left. Why don’t you post the whole thing?”
Because few of us have at hand the fearsome combination of No-Doz, Buckley’s cough syrup and good strong emetic it would take to survive more than a few sentences of your (cough) “thoughts.”
November 25th, 2007 at 1:56 pmcold_hard_left, TB only takes what he needs to argue his point, context means nothing to him. so i wonder who is the real troll here…..
November 25th, 2007 at 1:57 pmThe democrats have been all talk. You support them and then they STILL give bush more power and refuse to do anything but talk about ending the Iraq war. They STILL are afraid of doing what Ron Paul has been doing since BEFORE the war started…
NEOCONED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aewpvcxAwTk
If we let ourselves get tricked again like last November and then tricked again in 2008 then what makes the left any better than the “4 MORE YEARS!!!” bush bots?
Dec. 16th is the chance for us all to tell the weak democrats and the crazed neocons to #$%^& OFF once and for all… http://www.teaparty07.com/
Are you going to be part of a political machine yet again that does NOT do what they promise? Or are you going to be part of a Revolution? A Revolution requires people from all over to set aside their bickering and join together… right…left…independant.
Go over to KOS and read… then ask yourself… dont these people sound just like bush bots except with different issues?
There is a advertisement I have been seeing over at Crooks & Liars … it shows FDR with a tear… read what it says… THIS is what Ron Paul is talking about… good intentions by the democrats that led to extra large federal government has been turned into a system of bribary and cronyism… The federal government has its place… and sometimes can go beyond the Constitution in crisis… however if left unchecked for decades it becomes a bribary machine… is this what you are going to support in 2008 after what we have seen for the past several years?
Who divides America? Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton… who is uniting Americans? Ron Paul.
November 25th, 2007 at 2:03 pmOh yes theres a new documentary out called “redacted ” that will be viewed worldwide that documentary ” the rape and murder of a 15 years old girl by American troops” god and you think the Saudis are bad
and now theres a cover up about 20,000 Us soldiers with brain damage IF YOU ASK ME THEY ALREADY HAD BRAIN DAMAGE TO TAKE UP A JOB THAT INVOLVES KILLING AND DESTROYING PROPERTY FOR A LIVING
November 25th, 2007 at 2:05 pm@41
Here are two of the posts as wriitten.
The troops have obviously failed. The war is lost. We should have just let Hussein have his way. We all know it was Bush who planned the so-called 911 attack anyway so that he could play his little war games. The only WMD’s are Darth Cheney’s Vice Presidential orders. We should immediately dismantle our military and put all the Generals and private contractors in jail to be waterboarded. Then we can take their cars and mansions and give them to the undocumented workers. Nobody will attack us once we repeal the 2nd amendment and they know we are not a threat. Then we can tax the hell out of the corporations and use the extra money to house the poor and end world hunger. According to the polls, most documented and undocumented persons in America agree.
Comment by cold_hard_left — November 15, 2007 @ 10:33 pm
It is time for we progressives to clearly define our thinking on this subject and quit tap dancing around it. American troops have murdered, raped and abused millions of innocent Muslims in the dead of night and the Muslims only hate us because that traitor Bush made us invaders/crusaders and because we support of that evil, illegitimate country called Israel. The war is lost. We should have just turned our heads and let Hussein have his way. He may have been evil, but he was better than Bushie. We all know it was Bushie who planned the so-called 911 attack anyway so that he could play his little war games for Daddy. The only WMD’s are Darth Cheney’s Vice Presidential orders and Bushie’s Words of Mass Destruction. We should immediately dismantle our military and put all the Generals and private Blackwater contractors in jail to be waterboarded. Then we can take their cars and mansions and give them to the undocumented workers that the Repukelikans like to call “illegal.†Nobody will attack us once we start leaving them alone, dismantle our nukes, and repeal the 2nd amendment so that they know we are not a threat. Then we can tax the hell out of the corporations and the rich, nationalize every industry we can, convert our wortless dollars into euros, and use the extra money to educate and house the poor, end world hunger and have the government control/ration heathcare. According to the polls, most documented and undocumented persons in America agree. If you don’t, your nothing but a f**king troll.
Comment by cold_hard_left — November 16, 2007 @ 3:28 pm
November 25th, 2007 at 2:09 pmAs if Freddy or Rudy have a chance of anyone voting for them other than their mothers.
November 25th, 2007 at 2:10 pmThey should just nominate Ricky Bobby.
cold_hard_left, TB only takes what he needs to argue his point, context means nothing to him. so i wonder who is the real troll here…..
Comment by espo — November 25, 2007 @ 1:57 pm
I think I have seen this strategy before. Sort of reminds me of the alleged Gore invented the internet hoax as well as the Clinton meaning of the word “is” incident and so many others. No wonder some might find so many to be a bunch of pussy ideologue hypocrites
November 25th, 2007 at 2:13 pmComment by troll buster — November 25, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
Gee, thanks for the rerun. As if the original wasn’t childish enough, we get to entertain the troll by reprinting the stupidity?
November 25th, 2007 at 2:16 pm“Gee, thanks for the rerun. As if the original wasn’t childish enough, we get to entertain the troll by reprinting the stupidity?”
If the Right has taught us anything, it’s that if something reads or sounds too brain-blastingly stupid to be meant honestly, the best thing to do is to just keep repeating it.
“Family values,” anyone?
November 25th, 2007 at 2:22 pmsomewhere that regan woman is laughing.
November 25th, 2007 at 2:27 pmI can’t wait for Freddy to finally wake up and see how far he really is going to be beat into the ground, as well as the mitter by Faux and the rest of the ultra-right talking heads. They think Trudy Juli-ani is their savior and when all the real stories come out on him, there won’t be a repug candidate left standing.
heh heh
November 25th, 2007 at 2:27 pmsorry ggibson1, although i agree with Paul on the war, every thing else he is way off.
November 25th, 2007 at 2:31 pmThe only candidate I agree with is Kucinich and there is no way he will win because all the media cares about is his height, his wife, and him seeing a UFO, and they tell the idiots and trollbuster types who to vote for thus he will not win the obama/clinton lovefest.
Oh, and when was the last “britney†story posted on TP?
You’re proving your troll credentials with each post.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama —
…June 7, 2007
……May 30, 2007 11:20 am
….April 27, 2007 12:28 pm
(obviously you wouldn’t know a troll if it hit you in the face)
Comment by espo — November 25, 2007 @ 1:49 pm
Wow, that was some real ceative “research” there, espo. Why didn’t you include the links instead of just the dates? Could it be because the stories you referenced weren’t actual “britney” stories at all?
Here’s your June 7, 2007 “britney” story:
CNN: ‘The most trusted name in Paris news.’
What makes this a “britney” story”? This quote alone: Last week, CNN announced that it had hired a reporter to cover “things like Britney, as well as the Michael Jackson memorabilia.â€
So it turns out that the story was in fact about CNN and its decision to dive into “celebrity news”. Not really what you implied at all, espo. The May 30 story you cite is the same. The April 27 story was, again, not about Britney but was in fact about Jon Voigt and his criticism of those who speak out against the president. Once more, hardly the kind of tabloid journalism you insinuated in your original post.
And as for your comment, “you wouldn’t know a troll if it hit you in the face”, everyone knows trolls are too chickensh!t to hit anybody in the face. The best they can do is shoot rubber bands when the target’s back is turned.
November 25th, 2007 at 2:32 pmI must admit their support for Rudy is puzzling. He is the one Republicriminal that may be able to fracture the “religious right”. The only chance they have is to get every single one of the, infamous, 24%.
November 25th, 2007 at 2:34 pmI think I posted a slightly longer version in a later thread, but that was the original.
Comment by cold_hard_left — November 25, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
And you’re not too embarrassed to show up here? Solid proof of your irrelevance and antiAmericanism, thanks.
November 25th, 2007 at 2:35 pmOh, and when was the last “britney†story posted on TP?
You’re proving your troll credentials with each post.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — November 25, 2007 @ 1:42 pm
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I think you’re on the right track. Let’s wait and see!
November 25th, 2007 at 2:37 pmDang. Looks like I missed pussy troll supreme, cold hard left. It’s a shame. Had I been here earlier, I could have scared the little creep away before he got a second post off. But should pussy return, I repeat my questions for the third time:
1. Since you declared VICTORY! in Iraq yesterday, does that mean you agree we can bring the troops home?
2. Do you believe that Bush has governed according to conservative economic principles?
November 25th, 2007 at 2:40 pm(….some other trolls are just too stupid to bother with….)
November 25th, 2007 at 2:41 pmsorry ggibson1, although i agree with Paul on the war, every thing else he is way off.
Yes I thought the same thing at first. Until I did what you obviously have not and took the time to read the WHYs and HOWs behind his positions.
Many of the things he says sounds like what the NeoCons have been shouting for decades… then when you listen to the details you see he has something very different in mind… i.e. We heard from the bush bots for years “GET RID OF MEDICAID!!!” and then we here and elsewhere would say “Then you hate poor old people and just want to throw them out on the street.” … and the trolls were ok with that…
Ron Paul does NOT say throw them out in the street! So how does he plan on paying for them then? End the American Empire. We end that and we have the money to slowly and wisely ween ourselves off of the bribary filled federal government programs.
You see these issues are all tied together. We have been cutting off our noses to spite the face! The neocons go one direction and then the left decides to go the exact opposite direction out of spite… What Ron Paul is saying is lets solve these problems with wisdom and commonsense so that we can get our government under control without hurting people… What is wrong with that?
We have been pitted against each other… and we took it… line hook and sinker. The democrats WILL screw you just like Bush did his people. The democrats have been given their chance and they PROVED they are on boat with the American empire… We cannot solve all these problems that we want solved the way the democrats are offering because we will not be able to afford it which means they MUST continue the bush policies… only softer… are you going to be a left version of the bush bots? Are you?
November 25th, 2007 at 2:43 pmthanks for the rubberband in the back ralph the wonder llama, and proving my original premise; TP and posting irrelevant news about irrelevant news.
have fun today reading about faux news and grandpa fred. I have become bored with you arguing about irrelevant news. I think its time to search out more important blogs than fred thompson, paris hilton and faux news. have fun here trying to find the ‘hidden’ troll who really isnt a troll, just a liberal expressing a different viewpoint.—- cant have that here, if you dont agree you must be a troll, sounds all to familiar to me. but i would expect that from the ‘other’ side. thanks for teaching me about intolerance on the left, i thought it was only on the right.
**enjoy
November 25th, 2007 at 2:43 pmI must admit their support for Rudy is puzzling. He is the one Republicriminal that may be able to fracture the “religious rightâ€. The only chance they have is to get every single one of the, infamous, 24%.
Comment by pete — November 25, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
Well, it’s not as if they’ve demonstrated prescience, is it? The pundits and their owner(s) at Faux haven’t been right about much of anything, so why should they start now?
I think they’ve chosen Rudy for a number of reasons, primarily because he comes across as the most authoritarian, self-interested pr!ck in the room (in a room full of self-interested pr!cks, that’s quite an accomplishment). Rudy would obviously throw his own mother under a bus to become Rudy The Ruler, and the FauxNoose crowd really gets tingly around that sort of brutality.
The Religious Right has certainly been willing to embrace hypocrisy in their own lust for a Manly Man to tell them what to do, and they haven’t got the balls to splinter off their own party. Who else to support? Fred T. is about as exciting as day-old cornbread; Romney is a waffling heretic; McCain is, well, McCain is clearly senile without senile Ronnie’s charm; Huckabee is a very small joke, desperately running in place.
A few months ago, we had trolls slavering over Fred Thompson, but none of them could every explain why — “He’s a real conservative” just doesn’t cut it, especially absent any real evidence. Even the Republican voters don’t seem to have bought into that one.
November 25th, 2007 at 2:46 pmComment by espo — November 25, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
you’re not leaving are you?
November 25th, 2007 at 2:46 pmI must admit their support for Rudy is puzzling. He is the one Republicriminal that may be able to fracture the “religious rightâ€. The only chance they have is to get every single one of the, infamous, 24%.
Comment by pete — November 25, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
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Or perhaps confuse the rest of us into thinking there’s a compassionate (Bush) conservative in the pipeline?
November 25th, 2007 at 2:47 pmIt’s so difficult to explain things to trolls when they’re so deficient in reading comprehension…
espo must be disappointed that his little game crashed and burned.
November 25th, 2007 at 2:53 pmWho can deny that Faux News is putting all of their eggs in the Rudy basket? What will they do if Rudy is indicted before the elections? Now that would be some funny shit.
November 25th, 2007 at 2:54 pmWho can deny that Faux News is putting all of their eggs in the Rudy basket? What will they do if Rudy is indicted before the elections? Now that would be some funny shit.
Comment by Roket — November 25, 2007 @ 2:54 pm
This actually gets to the point being argued against by “espo”: why it is valuable for blogs like TP (and NewsHounds) to post information like this — because it means I don’t have to watch FoxNoose and can still keep track of their machinations. I had no idea they were supporting Rudy because I NEVER watch their crap.
November 25th, 2007 at 3:01 pmAccording to the polls, most documented and undocumented persons in America agree.
Comment by cold_hard_left — November 15, 2007 @ 10:33 pm
I think I posted a slightly longer version in a later thread, but that was the original.
Comment by cold_hard_left — November 25, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
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Mann Coulter, is that you?
November 25th, 2007 at 3:09 pmWhat will they do if Rudy is indicted before the elections? Now that would be some funny shit.
Comment by Roket — November 25, 2007 @ 2:54 pm
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Funny s**t, indeed!
November 25th, 2007 at 3:23 pmFOX has every right to back Guiliani, the torch-bearer of the right’s new set of morals: pro-abortion, pro-gay rights, pro-gun control, and anti-America. Thompson isn’t going to get many votes with his “anti-FOX” campaign because these are the same sheep he will need to grovel and root with to get votes and appearances and the always important nod from Hannity.
November 25th, 2007 at 3:42 pmMore Pee lieutenants infiltrating (spamming) our blog.
November 25th, 2007 at 4:00 pmComment by Cambios de Orden — November 25, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
Lately it’s been more “drive byes” than “spamming”. I think they are running out of free email addresses.
November 25th, 2007 at 4:13 pmTP continuously posts stupid blogs lately. how many soldiers have died this past week? where is the blog for them?
bet you all cant wait for britney’s next dui arrest!
Comment by espo
You know, you are free to leave if you don’t like what is posted on TP. And TP has never posted anything about Britney.
Keep it up, your RNC stripes are starting to show.
November 25th, 2007 at 5:14 pmif you dont agree you must be a troll, sounds all to familiar to me. but i would expect that from the ‘other’ side. thanks for teaching me about intolerance on the left, i thought it was only on the right.
**enjoy
Comment by espo
Bye espo. See you around. The suspicion that you are another RNC troll being sent her masquerading as a “progressive” is not intolerance, it is intelligence born of past experience. We rarely get real progressives here who lecture us on what is worthy of publication and what isn’t. Real progressives rarely come here and start lecturing us on what should and should not be posted. And Real Progressives rarely come here and lie by posting about a thread that had a persons name in it saying it was all about that person. If you truly are a progressive (which seems doubtful now), then hang around and share your opinions. If you think the subject of a thread is beneath you, then ignore that thread, don’t lecture us.
November 25th, 2007 at 5:31 pmLately it’s been more “drive byes†than “spammingâ€. I think they are running out of free email addresses.
Comment by pete
It is unlikely that they are running out of free e-mail addresses. They are pretty limitless. What they have run out of is anything worthy of posting. Their party is dying and I think even they are beginning to notice.
November 25th, 2007 at 5:33 pmTheir party is dying and I think even they are beginning to notice.
Comment by bilbobaggins — November 25, 2007 @ 5:33 pm
Possible. But, reaching such a conclusion would demonstrate a subtlety, and freedom, of thought they don’t typically display. I still think that their imaginations have been taxed by trying to outfox the registration system. I mean, all that thinking is hard work, for a troll.
November 25th, 2007 at 5:47 pmComment by espo —I OWE YOU AN APOLOGY
I made a mistake by calling you a troll and I offer you a sincere apology. There is no excuse for what I did, I’m sorry. It was foolish to jump to conclusions, based on a google search of past comments. I was not acting ethically or or intelligently ,when I chose not to read more of your other comments.
November 25th, 2007 at 6:59 pmFred has finally figured out that FOX is not fair and balanced? What will the pro-fred trolls say to this?
November 25th, 2007 at 8:23 pmComment by troll buster — November 25, 2007
I like it when people admit mistakes in a world that often wont. =)
Your a good person TB
November 25th, 2007 at 8:25 pmComment by Xisithrus — November 25, 2007 @ 8:25 pm
Thank you
November 25th, 2007 at 9:18 pmSo when is Fred going to drop out of the race?
November 25th, 2007 at 10:31 pmShaun Hannity loves Guiliani’s dress and wig.
Try to broaden your horizons, Fred. Maybe you’ll be lucky enough to catch his eye…
November 26th, 2007 at 4:27 amGood for Fred Thompson. It’s about time the Republicans realized that propaganda is not news.
November 26th, 2007 at 12:35 pm